>tfw abbott is death process

>>79923640
this thread is death process

>tfw i was seeing a man with broad shoulders
>it's actually a tit

This movie was a plate of milk and candy dressed up as a four-course steak dinner

No actual substance or intelligence, just a smoke screen

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pls no

Arrival is part of a recent series of movies I'd describe as Dunning-Kruger Sci-Fi. Along with Interstellar and to a somewhat lesser extent The Martian, they perfectly play to the crowd that fancies themselves as (and, to be fair, may truly be) smarter than average audiences but are not as smart as genuinely "smart people." They are movies designed to make the audience feel smart by introducing complicated and heady concepts, and then holding the viewer's hand the entire way through until there is next to nothing to be left up to interpretation.

If you didn't already know the twist in Arrival by the time she was in the milky section of the ship with the aliens AT LEAST, you perfectly fit the audience I am talking about.

There is no reward for being smart while viewing these movies because everything is eventually spelled out in big fridge magnet letters. Any clever idea is made so transparent that even the most simple in the audience will get it. It also removes any reward for rewatching or trying to figure out what you just saw.

Granted, there is a difference between Arrival and Interstellar. I think where Interstellar was pretending to have a brain it actually didn't have, Arrival has a brain that it is refusing to let the audience use.

Completely disappointing movie.

Also
>so that just happened

>>79924088
Damn, really made me think

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>>79923640
or perhaps he was wondering why someone would death process a man before gravity process a man out of a plane

>>79924088

I agree, very dishonest film making.

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>>79924128
>Arrival is part of a recent series of movies I'd describe as Dunning-Kruger Sci-Fi. Along with Interstellar and to a somewhat lesser extent The Martian, they perfectly play to the crowd that fancies themselves as (and, to be fair, may truly be) smarter than average audiences but are not as smart as genuinely "smart people." They are movies designed to make the audience feel smart by introducing complicated and heady concepts, and then holding the viewer's hand the entire way through until there is next to nothing to be left up to interpretation.

It's the same crowd that "loves science", but only for like 10 minutes at a time because that's all their attention span is capable of.

It's the people who "love coding", but have actually only watched the first half of some youtube tutorial they saw recommended on reddit, but never touched after that.

>>79924835
Yyyyyyyep
Spot on

>>79924088
Milk steak, boiled over-hard, and a side of your finest jelly beans, raw.

>>79925015
t. full on rapist

They really fucked up the final act of what could have been a great movie with retarded bullshit.

>>79925107
Agreed

>>79924088
Do you have a full link to your Rotten Tomatoes review?

Which themes do this movie presents?

>Daddy wasn't ready to know his daughter would die

Literally who would abandon their child after finding out she only has a limited time to live?

>>79924128
overcooked pasta

>Squid language causes you to perceive time like Dr. Manhattan
>This is supposed to blow your mind

>>79925286
But I'm still the guy who wrote the original post ;)

>>79924835
What are examples of recent good science fiction, that people who are actual scientists or actually smart people would like better?

>>79925205
He didn't. He abandoned his wife, partly for not telling him before so he could make his own decision, and partly for telling him at all. He was still a part of his daughter's life, albeit their relationship was immediately different because he couldn't look at her the same way.

>>79925317
well memed then

>>79924128
i honestly feel sorry for anyone who saw this film as intellectual in any way, but i what i liked was that it had a great premise and mysterious atmosphere created through the excellent soundtrack and cinematography.

>>79925348
Primer is always my go-to example. The movie is great and requires some fucking effort to understand

>>79923640
Every time the aliens were on screen I couldn't help but think they were giant alien stoners hotboxing in their ship, and that the squirting was not actually a method of communication but just them screwing around with the humans.

>>79924601
You probably took too much time to make this shitty meme
ill give it a 6/10 chuckle

>>79925401
Any others?

>>79925440
2001

>>79923640
if abbot could see the future why did he die

>>79925348
>recent good science fiction
doesn't exist

Ex Machina is as close as we get
>>79925617
he chose to die

>>79923640
Just streamed this a while ago. This part had no subtitles so I was fucking confused.

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>>79925683
>streamed

>>79925771
>downloading movies
why?

>>79925440
Moon was really good.

>>79925357
Why wasn't he there when his daughter died?

is it's head the nob thing on top or the section right above the legs?

>>79923640
>tfw 8 legs and cant write english

>>79925317
It's a bad post

>>79927134
You're a bad friend

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>>79923640

>>79925771
Believe me, I would love to download things again, but at the moment I can't.

If they can see into the future why didn't he stop them from bombing them, or warn them or anything. Was abbott suicidal?

>>79924128
>If you didn't already know the twist in Arrival by the time she was in the milky section of the ship with the aliens AT LEAST

It was completely obvious when she had that flash forward about the expression "zero sum game" and told her daughter, but I was heavily suspecting it from before, with the aliens communicating in literal circles and all.

>>79927311
Someone in a previous thread said the time travel only allows one to observe the future, but not change it.

>>79927311

Because thats what had to happen for them to help the ayys in 3000 years. It's all predetermined.

>>79926046
Maybe he was there.

>>79927311
You gotta stop thinking in a linear way. In a way, everything is happening at the same time, sort of.

>>79928126
>>79928271
>>79928273

So then her whole thing about "choosing" to have her daughter despite the illness is just bullshit?

>>79924835
Not like us REAL nerds lmao

>>79928312
Her choosing means she lets it all happen and doesn't actively try to stop it. If this was like the typical action-packed sci-fi movie, she'd probably try to wrestle her fate, but here she chooses to let it all play out, good moments and bad moments.

You now realise that since everything in this film had to happen, there was never any tension.

>>79927462
At first I thought she was jumping consciousness

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Does anyone have a good stream link? I can't find the good one I saw a few weeks ago...

>>79928505
It's not like she can actually choose anything though. It would be impossible for her to see a future where her daughter dies and then decide not to get a child at all.

It's literally slaughterhouse 5 for dummies. A watered down experience without any if the actual substance

So why do they need help 3000 years from now?

I liked the movie but this plot point felt too rushed. Was it this vague in the short story aswell?

>>79928810
Well yeah, I understood it that way, too. There's no way to choose because everything that's about to happen has already happened. It's as if she saw an image of her entire life, and that's it, no way to edit it.

But in a way it also makes me think that she thinks she chose to have a daughter because that's what she sees, and the good moments convince her that "Yeah, I wouldn't have it any other way"

>>79928926
From the start, it has always been about the main character's journey, not the aliens. It's like a character study movie, I guess, with a bit of sci fi sprinkled around

>>79928926
it's never explained why they came or why they leave in the book. it's all a mystery. they just give her the gift of their language then fuck off.

all the tense bits from the movie involving the world nations and chinese general were added to make it more dramatic and interesting.

The story is only like 40 pages.

>>79923640
It's a hand wearing a used condom.

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>the humans will eventually become the aliens

>>79923640
>>79923886
Lel
/tv/ banter isn't bad.

>>79924128
+1

They really needed to show the daughter dying a second time at the end.

>>79925395
+2

My Arrival review:
Acting sucked. Everyone was terrible. Forest was shit, Amy was shit, and so was Jeremy.
Pacing was meh. Cinematography was good, plot was good. Story was good. They needed to replay the death of the daughter a second time at the end.

>>79924128
>dunning krueger

you don't know what this means

>>79928351
Im not a nerd, i'm a finance quant

>>79923640
>aliens come to earth
>say they need our help in 3000 years
>teach us a language
>we can now see the future
>aliens leave
>humanity copes with knowing their future
>all hell probably breaks loose

what a shitty movie.

>>79929263
Define what it means and how you know I don't know

>>79929255
>+1
>that fucking post
>trip
what are you doing

>>79929286
the film operates on the thesis that observing how limited our time on earth is drives us to act more empathetic to each other.

in reality we'd all just masturbate non-stop to future porn

>>79929379
But you can be empathetic and also enjoy masturbating to non-stop future porn

>>79929379
i dont think it would work that way irl
>know your entire future from start to finish
>end up just going through the motions
>all semblance of free will is gone
>you will never meet a new person again
>you will never have an exciting or surprising moment again

wew

>>79929061
>>79929105
Ah, well that's understandable.

It was a very interesting first contact movie nevertheless. Sound design 10/10