Is this an example of good contemporary cinema?

>>79905432

Yes

>>79905432
muh boi Hanake

>>79905432
>Haneke literally can't go a single film without shitting on some facet of western civilization.

>>79905432
Haneke is bretty gud too bad about Funny Games being his most well known it is nothign like his typical style

>>79905432
>Is this an example of good contemporary cinema?
YEs. it whows well that liberals have nothing to offer but sex

meme

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>>79905432
Stop protecting your borders.

>>79905897
are you triggered?

>>79907044
Haneke literally devoted three movies to how triggered he is that people enjoy horror films.

>>79907247
okay, but are you triggered? you sure sound like it

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Stop believing in God

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Start racemixing

>>79907276
I'm triggered enough to make posts on an anonymous imageboard, yes. I will never be triggered enough to make three movies about Haneke's retarded ideas.

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#RefugeesAreWelcomeHere

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Stop disrespecting migrants

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Stop donating to right-wing political parties.

From what I've seen Haneke makes what I would call "flawless" films.
Everyone admits that, even the 2 and 3 triggered axons.

I neither enjoy his style (no sense of beauty/aeshtetics, technically poor, rigid and static) nor his substance (moralizing, bourgeois, constant contempt towards his audience). So typically Austrian, and with all the post-Hitler guilt and self-hatred, an horrid combination. I don't think Germanic people should be allowed to create art, except maybe symphonies. I'll never get the hype, but he's a synthetic symbol of everything wrong with the current champagne-libcucked arthouse world, how deeply removed it is from popular common sense and genuine socio-political concerns, where misanthropy and bleakness is seen as trendy, where hatred of one's nation and history is seen as progressive or intelligent, where contempt for the masses and the audience is seen as subversive. He won't be remembered, no one will cherish his films 50 years from now. Just looking at his smug face, with his cold judging eyes, you just wanna punch him. (A much more fun and interesting Germanic filmmaker) Herzog once said about Godard that he was a moronic thinker and cinematic counterfait, that a kung-fu film had more truth and value to it, it's certainly true and also applies to Haneke. Even a shlocky horror flick, everything he hates and cannot understand why others might enjoy it, actually has more value than his entire filmography.

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>>79905432

I always wondered where this pic came from

>>79907516
t. extremely triggered bluepilled status quo shill

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Stop going to work.

>>79907624
Haneke is funded and heralded by the status quo.

>>79907516
I'm overdosing on redpills, I name the jew irl and I love Haneke for all the reasons you hate him, especially that rigid/static camerawork with a lot of ambiental noise, shit gives me a hard on everytime I watch a film by him

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My new movie about the migrant crisis and how white Europeans are culpable is going to win every single Oscar and there is nothing you can do about it. NOTHING.

>>79907672
lol

>>79907674
Kubrick was simultaneously more subversive and more popular than Haneke could ever dream of being, and far more technically accomplished too. Haneke is the cinematic equivalent of a Sunday school teacher, it's just that his lessons are in self-hating western secularism.

>>79907516
See, this is what I like about Haneke: his movies are 100% guaranteed to upset casual /pol/tard types that take everything at face value

>mfw a German showed national pride near me

>>79907779
What was casual about framing a thriller around the idea that French people should feel guilty for the Algerian massacre?

>>79907779
It's strange that /pol/'s analysis of Haneke aligns more with his own statements about his movies than his defenders' do.

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>>79907815

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What did he mean by this?

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Stop having white children

>>79907844
You misunderstood my post

>>>79907848
Not in my experience. >>79907516 for instance seems to completely miss the point. Keyword: "misanthropy".

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>>79907988
Sorry.

What was the hidden meaning behind framing a thriller behind the idea that French people should feel guilty for the Algerian massacre?

>>79907779
Get fucked with your /pol/ fixation. I'm staunchly on the left and I'm still annoyed by, as that guy put it, "champagne" liberals in general and Haneke's detached preachiness in particular.

I like his visual style and his occasional subversion of cinematic conventions, but I absolutely hate his scripts. Cache as an allegory was particularly off-putting.

>>79905432
>amour
>facerubbing
Every fucking time.

>>79907988
I think when you say "keyword: misanthropy", you mean "literally the only thing I disagree with is the comment about misanthropy".

>completely miss the point
Yeah, I don't think so.

>>79905432
yes it is. a certain level of maturity is needed to enjoy his films tho.

I only watch Haneke if I'm prepared to suffer for the rest of the evening.

>>79908008
I meant you're casual about the medium, doofus.

>>79908022
Haneke isn't a liberal. Stop projecting American politics cliches onto complete outsiders.

>>79908069
Well, you're wrong again. Misanthropy is key because it's the most blatant misreading of his filmography.

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>In September, Haneke was part of a group of 3,000 members of the European film industry who signed a pro-asylum petition, which called for immediate action in the current migration situation.
Yeah but his movies are totally not anti-West.

>>79908129
They are, but his supporters see that as a good thing.

>>79908100
>Haneke isn't a liberal. Stop projecting American politics cliches onto complete outsiders.
Stop spazzing out about individual words, pretending as if you've addressed the actual point or position.

You can replace "liberal" with the generic German "links", if you want, and it won't change the meaning of my post in the slightest.

>>79908100
>Haneke isn't a liberal.
He's an upper middle class European who despises the condition of being an upper middle class European. Every single one of his movies disparages them, their culture, or their history.

Michael Haneke very clearly is a misanthrope. To the degree that characters are 'good' in his movies, it is only to spite western civilization in some manner (the nebbish school teacher who recognizes the evil children in The White Ribbon, or the victimized Algerian in Cache).

>>79908262
>who despises the condition of being an upper middle class European
Yeah, but only in others, else he'd give it up.

>>79908262
don't forget the honorable Middle Eastern-looking man who stands up for Juliette Binoche in Code Unknown.

>>79908262
the urbane, pragmatic child refugee juxtaposed with the whiny over-privileged white male spree killer in 71 Fragments

>>79908230
Yes, it does matter.
And what point, that you're annoyed by his "preachiness"? His cinema is sociopolitical, yes. I'm sorry you dislike his presentation.

>>79908262
He despises facets of culture, most particularly imperialism, the fetishization of shock by media and neoliberal consumerist culture. There's absolutely nothing misanthropic about his cinema. This is the most clear indication that someone is misreading Haneke's edgy, detached presentation by the actual intent of his work.

>>79908303
>>79908323
Ah, what a monster he is! His non-white characters aren't faceless, voiceless plot devices!

>>79908385
they quite literally are plot devices.

Middle Eastern man in Code Unknown stands up for Juliette Binoche as she's harassed by those subway shitskins. This recalls an earlier scene where she hears a child screaming while doing chores and she doesn't act on it, only choosing to be complacent. The Middle Eastern man standing up for her throws shade at her complacency, no doubt a side effect of her being a modern French woman.

The refugee child who is "enlightened" by his experience to the point of being wise beyond his years also throws shade at Europeans, particularly the spree killer, because it implies that this refugee had endured real problems unlike the white male, and yet he would never commit such an evil act that the young white privileged male did.

>>79908385
>There's absolutely nothing misanthropic about his cinema.
The fucking mental hoops someone would have to go through to say this after experiencing the concentrated anti-human bile that is The Seventh Continent merits fascination, but not much else.

Haneke BTFOing fascist like a champ.

>>79908432
They are both the opposite of plot devices: they have motivations, an identity. The fact that their existence and actions somehow progress the plot doesn't mean they're merely plot devices.

>>79908442
>The Sevent Continent
>anti-human
Holy shit, I knew you've misunderstood his movies but this is just pants-on-head retarded

>>79908459
Haneke isn't against fascism, he's against middle class European liberalism.

>>79908512
Middle class European liberals voted for Hitler in 1930s.

>>79908509
Ok, fine, they are real characters.

Guess what: Still doesn't negate the original point that they exist to give a heaping bowl of humble pie to the Western European characters/audience.

>>79908525
>liberals elected fascists
No one can be this stupid. 10/10, you had me going for a while.

>>79908385
>voiceless plot devices!
The old Algerian man in Cache was literally nothing but a plot device.

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Hi, I'm Michael Haneke. I am a director of such subversive and thought-provoking cinemas as Cachay and Funny Games. I have a severe hatred for modernity, and the West in general. I think white, upper-class Europeans need to take a step back and examine their choices, realizing how everything they do effects others across the world. Romanian people, Somalian people, I could go on. I have an upcoming film called "Happy End" which will examine the microagressions leveled by upper-class French to the migrants, who are on the receiving end of such indignities on a daily basis. My magnum opus is The White Ribbon, a chilling work of critical theory which posits the rise of German fascism was a result of evil puritanical Christians. I hate Christians, almost as much as I hate Europeans. And modernity. And the Western hemisphere. #RefugeesAreWelcomeHere

>>79905432
The movie was boring. Just pure death. Like the last passive mumble of a certain type of lifeless intellectual before he/she resigns to inevitable suicide. What does such a person even have to offer? What's the point of even speaking or acting at all?

Certainly captures the feeling of the upper middle class in the West and why they unknowingly but determinately steer us into decline.

hey guise im michael hanukkah and i think the least tyrannical, least barbaric civilization to ever grace the planet is actually the worstest lol didnt see that cumming didya? i wish we cuold all be as enlightened as saudi arabia

>>79908651
>they unknowingly but determinately steer us into decline
They are doing it since the French Revolution. Fucking democracy, am I right? Absolute monarchy was so much better, right? It's all those masons and Jews, I tell you.

>>79905432
it's an example on how to manage to rip off a pialat film while somehow making it even a shittier film

>>79908724
>least tyrannical, least barbaric civilization
Oh god, terminal /pol/yp

>>79908512
Exactly. That's why I was so triggered by that other anon who called him a liberal. Was Haneke American he would be a starch critic of the Democratic party and reformist bourgeois stabilishment.

>>79908531
They exist in a sociopolitical world governed by relations of race, traumatic past, guilt and privilege. What about Majid's son in Caché?

>>79908584
He isn't exactly a strong character but I wouldn't call him a plot device either. His angst and depression are relevant and so is his history with the journalist's family

>>79908733
There is such thing as balance.

There is no reason people have to be so absurdly, destructively "revolutionary" in everything ever any more than they need to be brutally authoritarian.

Also, I know all about people like you. Don't start taking the high road now.

>>79908780
>What about Majid's son in Caché?
Honorable rogue who stands up for his father. We Europeans can learn a thing or two from this proud young man ;)

>>79908780
I meant staunch* kek

>>79908778
>Oh god, terminal /pol/yp
What, you think modern Western civilization *isn't* the least tyrannical and barbaric?

>>79908733
The drop in living standards over the past couple of decades are easy to notice if you're not a privileged piece of self-hating shit.

Is that Hillary's Story?

>>79908828
No. No one loves her.

>>79908818
You weren't talking about modern west, but west as a whole.

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Is it any wonder what his next movie will be about? Matthieu Kassovitz is gonna star in it.

Kassovitz directed this piece of anti-Europe shit

>>79908901
How's La Haine anti-Europe?

>>79908819
I'm not from the USA. But all statistics show that you have less crime than in the last 40 years, your teenagers are less likely to become pregnant, drugs are less popular, less young people drink alcoholic beverages.
I don't know, it seems to be getting better.

>>79908925
It implies that the squalid lifestyles and degenerate behaviors of the immigrants rests squarely on the French establishment.

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>>79907342
>2017
>race is a thing
You can literally raise a cat to be a dog. Just fucking bomb your nigger ghettos, gather survivors and turn them into proper US citizens. It's all about C U L T U R E

>>79908938
>your teenagers are less likely to become pregnant, drugs are less popular, less young people drink alcoholic beverages.
These all coincide with a more conservative youth though. Haneke isn't making underground movies that appeal to rebellious teenagers, he's making movies for an aging Marxist cultural establishment.

>>79909062
This is problem with you simpletons. Everything is dualistic.
>black-white
>conservative-marxist
>democrats-republicans
You're so fucking dumb it's unbelievable.

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stop awarding me Palme d'Ors

>>79909144
Meanwhile, Michael Haneke is so morally unsophisticated he can't understand that people who like horror movies actually empathize with the victims and not the killers.

>>79909239
Again, it's not that simple. They mostly empathize with the victims, BUT they want them to suffer for their entertainment. Fucked up, innit?

>>79909275
Michael Haneke films are rife with suffering protagonists though.

>>79909333
But it's not very entertaining.

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>>79909333
>this fucking guy

>>79909388
That depends on what your idea of entertainment is. People go to the average horror film to empathize with suffering protagonists. Those same people go to Funny Games to empathize with the suffering protagonists, but Haneke fans go to sneer at the audience for not getting what they were expecting, while patting themselves on the back for their moral sophistication.

>>79905897

And?

>>79909062
>Haneke isn't making underground movies that appeal to rebellious teenagers, he's making movies for an aging Marxist cultural establishment.

This! Gen Xers refuse to understand that they're the crusty old establishment now and many younger people are starting to HATE what they've pushed on them.

>>79909554
Sarcastically being accurate doesn't make you any less accurate.

>>79908819

In many ways the standard of living across the board keeps getting better and better. The key thing to remember here is that the idea what a good life entails is always changing. We also don't have the resources or wealth for everyone to live the type of western middle class lifestyle that we are currently accustomed across the board due there being seven billion mouths to feed and people keep living longer and longer while people have less children.

Haneke general?
Why is Cache considered anti-western in general? If you go as far to say that Haneke wants to provoke guilt for the Algerian massacre, why not also say it's not a coincidence he put that segment for Iraq, that it is not about the massacre but the imperialism in general?
I don't know I still don't consider it targets Westerners as much you guys say.

>>79909627
Gen X establishment leftists who supported Hillary and are pro-EU etc are hardly 'accurate'.

And I'm even economically leftist, and extremely environmentalist, but the corporatist, expansionist, boundary-dissolving structure in place is a nightmare and Gen Xers are human cancer for supporting it.

And the more Marxist ones have the nerve to whine about neoliberalism and the former "End of History" but then support globalism and expansionist free market capitalism and attempts to force the same cosmopolitan values on every corner of the world.

Fuck Gen X, they deserve to be gassed.

>>79910980
>marxists supporting globalism and free market capitalism
who the fuck are you talking about, nigger?

>>79911054
All the marxists I've known are pro-EU and supported Hillary, ergo, what I said.

>>79907596
It's actually came from MGSV

>>79907922

Pay closer attention.