Just a Black person movie or can white folks watch it too /tv/?

>>79889573

If you don't watch it, that's because you hate niggers and faggots and are a terrible person. If you do watch it you're objectifying nigger faggot culture and are a terrible person.

>>79889573
I'm neither black, nor gay nor a drug addict, so I dunno how I'm going to relate to this

I'm gonna torrent it desu
I don't wanna risk giving it any money, and if it sucks i wanna be able to back up my criticisms

If you're capable of empathy for people who aren't the same race as you then you can watch it.

>>79889573
I liked it (I'm a white heterosexual shitlord)

i thought black men were alpha males, not sissy faggots

>>79889573
I don't even understand why this was so praised. It only tries to be something more than a student film in its first thirty minutes. Something like Elle was a legitimate masterpiece of a character drama with elaborate scenes and production choices. Moonlight is so utterly mediocre.

>>79889573

People like you die alone and miserable.

>>79889573
Yes, because unlike non-white people, we don't care about identifying with fictional characters.

>>79889573
>tension
it was weak and we barely saw it. gay nigger gets bullied in school. we just see name calling and some punches thats it. nothing dramatic like the bullies burn his kitten alive or they break his windows with dildos or some shit. basically its weak bullying for a public school for niggers

>main plot
nigger wants the cock. thats it

>subplot
drug addict mom goes on rehab. thats it

>character development
there was none. tyrone or whatever his name was remains the same mute, autistic, beta fag he was the entire movie. he doesnt grow up, he doesnt learn anything. he is boring as shit. for fucks sake's Billy Elliot had a bigger much stronger character with emotions. this nigger just stared at the floor and was mute.

>conflict
there was none. he didn't have to overcome any major adversity at all or fight against some antagonist. the bullies? shit was over with a "20 years later" fade out. his mom? she just went to rehab, he didn't like punch her or dragged her there. its just a CUT ADOLESCENCE, CUE IN ADULTHOOD, NOW ALL YOUR PROBLEMS ARE SOLVED TYRONE!! YAY!

>hard choice
he didn't make any choice at all. hell it was even his homo friend the one who calls him back after all those years not the main character.

>resolution
at the end, besides being a boring, gay nigger, we learn that he is a fucking virgin
CREDITS ROLL

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>>79889694
Ever been mugged? This will put the robber into context.

Its more of a bantz movie because it makes fun of black men for being fags.

It was a decent movie, desu. It didn't deserve the best fil award, but it was good. Jenkins gets wonderfull performances out of his actors, it felt open and honest, it had some beautifull shots (allthough it was sometimes out of focus, for no apparant reason, which is amateurish) and it wasn't preachy. I liked it.

>>79889755
Homosexuality is highest among black men. They have a term for it, "the down low".

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I'm Chinese and heterosexual and enjoyed it quite a bit. Certainly can see why it's so divisive for viewers. Most people aren't gonna be up for a film that so heavily telegraphs its Taiwanese New Wave/Edward Yang and Wong Kar Wai stylistic influences.

It's like Yi Yi, Happy Together, and Chungking Express had a black baby.

Nigger movie, had to walk out of the theater because it felt like a safari.

>>79889901
You must hate zoos then.

>>79889895
You mean a hack baby right? The fact that people compare this to chunking express is great. Moonlight is more like perks of being a wallflower

>>79889573
The film is about loneliness and not belonging. Something /tv/ should in theory be able to relate to. Although ultimately it comes down to empathy for others which seems to be extremely lacking around here.

>>79889895
>those comparisons
Holy shit I'm gonna go watch this right now. Have niggers finally created something worthwhile?

>>79889818
Haven't seen the movie but I appreciate this post.

>>79889694
That's an empathy-check for you

It's a movie for white people like 12 years a slave

if you want to watch actual black kino then check out fences

>>79889573
it's made for bourgeois white audiences

It doesn't represent gay or black culture accurately. Like Precious it's an emotionally sadomasochistic schlockfest for liberals who love to feel sad about the poor pathetic black man

I'm black, I need to say this

What I found weird about this film is how he was persecuted for being gay even though when you watch the movie he was not effeminate or a sissy or didn't give off gay vibes whatsoever. He seemed totally normal imo.

Like no one really knew he was gay. Just looking by his demeanor and how her carried himself, he acted straight and would never have been attacked in real life, but the movie makes it look like us black straight males somehow have some super gaydar that can detect the slightest gay behaviour. It's a dishonest film and very damaging to black men in general.

>>79889694

Art is meant to evoke emotion, not necessarily to be something to which you relate...and before I get flamed, let me repeat NOT NECESSARILY.

>>79889818
t. read the wikipedia article

>>79889573
White people will get it quite easily. If anything your average /tv/ poster can relate to this far more than your typical black guy or even your typical gay guy. It's mostly about a guy who is scared to come out of his shell for his entire life and builds up a fake exterior to hide in and compensate for his general fear of living. Having said that, if you'd seriously consider not watching a movie just because of race, you may lack the empathy required to engage with it, or even the level of introspection to see how you might relate to the character when put in their situation.

>>79889889
Isn't "down low" bisexuall?

>>79889818
>NOW ALL YOUR PROBLEMS ARE SOLVED TYRONE!!
what did you watch?

>>79889573
Its not a black person movie

It's a white person movie made with black people to appear "cultured"

>>79890075

He may not have been camp but if he was known for fucking men then chances are even a black male could work out that he's probably gay.

>>79890043
This movie was for black people. Homophobic black people.

>>79889573
No it will turn you black if you watch it. Fucking idiot.

>>79890075
You saw the dancing scene right? You saw that he spent the whole film acting like a limp-wristed faggot unable to look other people in the eye, because he was afraid of being judged, and afraid of what he felt when he looked at other men, right?

>>79890193
yeah, just a weird coincidence that it's directed by a black man, adapted from a play by a black man and based on their collective semi-autobiographical experience growing up in black neighborhoods

>>79889573
Its about a repressed gay homo drug dealing nigger with a shitty story, playing on stereotypes and having all the mistakes of an indie but its esentially targeted to whites since no one else would watch and rate this garbage.

>>79889694
Try not being autistic

>>79889694
Do you watch action movies even though you've never shot anyone?

>>79890213
Can confirm. Watched it a couple of weeks ago, now I do nothing but steal, rape, mooch off of the wellfare system, eat watermelon, chicken and drink grapejuice. People have started calling me Lai'rohne and asking me if I can fuck their wives.

>>79890201
He never fucked any men though

>>79890158
You suck dick you are gay. Doesnt matter if its from a guy or tranny.

>>79890201

We honestly don't care. We don't go out of way to attack gays like this movie. We might make a joke or two but if you keep your gayness to yourself no one would notice.

We tolerate closeted gays that keep it to themselves. Only time we become anti gay is flamboyant drag queen dressing gays that parade on the streets. Even than we mostly ignore them

Movie makes us straight black males men look we hold hanging parties for gay men.

The director has an issue with straight black males and wants to demonize them for political reasons

Literally just finished watching this, it's a good movie, yes, but in the end I was left thinking "Ok, so the guy might find some happiness after all the shit he's been through..." and that's about it. It's a good movie, yes, good performances across the board, the cinematography was fine, everything was fine.

But it wasn't exceptional or fantastic or what I'd consider to be worthy of the Best Picture Oscar, at least not in my opinion.

Worth watching? Sure. Worth keeping around or archiving for repeated viewings? Nope.

A solid 8/10 overall.

>>79890149
Hey, this guy watched and understood the film and has empathy and was probably raised quietly and decently. This guy is a normie like me. I enjoyed the film a lot. Very Yi Yi.

>>79890406
You don't speak for your entire race, dumbass.

>>79889573
Blacks don't want to watch some boring gay shit about some sweetboi

this is 100% some white ppl movie

t. black

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>>79889573
dont believe the hype. how can this movie beat a movie that was most nominated in all of its classes.

>>79890415
You can be alpha and swole as fuck but you still are gay if you fuck men.

>>79890401
What if you fuck and eat pussy as well?

>>79890488
I don't remember that scene from La La Land.

It's Sweden the movie.

>>79890446

Yes I can liberal skinny fat white boy. This film is made by a gay black man who has a vendetta against the black dudes who made fun of him in high school. Moonlight is his way of payback. It's dishonest.

>>79889895
Don't forget In the Mood for Love. Lots and lots of scenes directly in homage.

>>79890336
I watch them because I'd want to be like them
I don't want to become a black gay with a drug addiction though

>>79890488

Based Saxon

>>79890595
(I'm assuming all of this, by the way)

>>79890092
Tell that to blacks that need black characters in every media and role because they can't "relate" with other races

>>79890595
>Yes I can
No you can't, dumbass

>>79889573
Are gay people actually treated life this in real life? I find it hard to believe that this story accurately depicts the life most gay people experience. Society seems to go out of its way to cater to these people...

>>79890498
Black guys don't really use the word bisexual. Only black girls.

Most ghetto black guys tend to only see things as straight or gay.

>>79890498
then your semi faggot

It's Boyhood without the gimmick of using the same actors after 12 years of filming.

>>79889818
I love how the guy he loves treats him like shit, it cuts to when he's an adult, and he gets back with the guy who treats him like shit because the guy apologizes.

Really, really thought provoking.

>>79891136

fags treat each other like shit, it goes back to when they were molested by their uncles, fathers, cousins and etc

>>79890445
Yep, although to be honest I didn't actually enjoy the movie much at the time (I'm also a bit of a pleb so my opinion doesn't count for much).

It is an impossible movie to talk about, as every "normie" review fixates on the black, gay aspect and how "stories like these are never told," when in fact stories like these are the most universal. Meanwhile, /tv/ won't watch it or at least won't watch it with an open mind because of what I guess to them feels like forced diversity based on the way people talk about it. Just two groups of self-indulgent people who can't view anything outside of the social boxes they tick. It's sad because it's a movie I didn't even really like, but it still made me feel quite a lot, and it's hard to imagine someone watching it, feeling nothing whatsoever and just thinking "BLACK AND GAY," whether their stance is positive or negative.

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>>79890900
Why does this film have to accurately depict the life most gay people experience? Why does any film involving a PoC have to depict the experience of ALL PoC?

How dumb is this board collectively that they can't sit and appreciate the story of one boy turning into a man, and his journey to self? How dumb are they that they can't see that the film wants to settle on the kindness of strangers, and the aching beauty found in the mundane?

Jesus

You guys really are fuckin plebs of the highest motherfuckin order

>>79890900
Dumbass.The idea that being gay is great and a cool, and ensures special privileges, is fucking stupid. Just as stupid, as thinking being black, is somehow a plus.

Just because you see gay people being portrayed positively by Hollywood and the media, doesn't mean it's somehow great. Just because it's political uncorrected to make fun of gay people, doesn't mean that people don't do it.

For the most part, whatever your privilege ass thinks, being gay fucking sucks.

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>>79891219
Feels good to know there are intelligent people on here who can appreciate art.

>>79890406
But the point was never that he was gay though. That's not why he was beat down, or teased. That's a terrible take away form the film.

Kevin was gay as well. Honestly even more out that Chiron, didn't get beat up. Chiron was weak, and didn't stand up for himself, until he did.

That's why he got bullied. That's not a black thing, that's just a people thing. Really, you could make the either film again, but with out the love scene, and have Chiron not be gay. And it wouldn't change a thing.

>>79891242
It may suck because there aren't a lot of other gay people but gay people were never bullied in my school, or my cousin's schools. They singled themselves out as victims most of the time because they felt lonely.

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>>79891242
You gotta explain it to them in simple terms they can understand.

You know how you're heterosexual and you can't get a girl to touch your dick?

Imagine being gay and you're about 10 times lonelier than that.

Not everywhere in the world is San Francisco.

>>79889573
>Just a Black person movie or can white folks watch it too /tv/?

No. This movie was designed to appeal to black gay men only. I don't see how anyone else could relate to this story.

>>79891413

White liberals will take away from this film is that straight black men hold bands of cowboy western styles posse that hunt gay black men down and attack them. It's dishonest. I've ever attacked a gay man in life.

This movie is mainly for white liberals. Remember that.

>>79890595
Funny, the film is semi-autobiographical, but the gay bit is the one bit that's not from the director's experience.

>>79890900
Nobody in the movie even knew he was gay. Him being gay had nothing to do with people treating him like shit.

>>79891603
>I don't see how anyone else could relate to this story.

It's often called autism

>>79891606
Again, you don't speak for an entire race, and the movie isn't saying anything about your entire race. You're a dumbass if you think it is.

>>79891643
I don't get why they do that shit. It's like The Wire made Omar gay even though the guy he's based on isn't.

>>79891643
The screenwriter is gay.

>>79891720
>you don't speak for an entire race

neither does this movie. but liberal white faggots like you seem to think so

>>79891790
>neither does this movie
That's literally what I just said. Work on your reading comprehension, retard.

It's a movie about isolation and finding your place in the world. I think a lot of people can relate to that.

>>79891413
This. How the fuck are people not getting that there are two gay guys in this film? That one is happy, and that it's largely because he's comfortable with himself? Chiron was weak even when he toughened up, because he hid behind that. He was never genuine in the whole film, and while you feel bad for him that's the big takeaway. The whole third act is to contrast those two different paths.

>>79891762
I'm aware. But if a gay black playwright can get a straight black screenwriter to adapt this movie, it's not a very effective form of revenge on straight black men. And it certainly shows that anon can't speak for all black men (actually, he can't even speak for all black men on /tv/).

>>79890326
Nice buzzword!

>>79891851

You said I don't get to speak for this movie reddit retard faggot. This movie however had a nigger sellout faggot trying to make straight black males look bad because of his personal experiences.

IMO you are just a mad as fuck white liberal faggot who sucks dick and is mad at me because I speak out against your shitty liberal movie. Learn do deal with it faggot and go take your anti retrovirals while you are at.

>>79891941
*a gay black playwright can get a straight black director

>>79891949
Not a buzzword. Difficulty empathizing is a symptom of autism. You should get yourself checked.

>>79890595
Honestly, this. Everyone defending the movie has some weird self guilt going on.

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>>79891941
The way they showed Kevin in the beginning reaching out and being friendly with Chiron while fronting his own fake heterosexuality.

And then later comforting him on the beach, sharing a joint.

And then so many many years later, after having a baby with a woman, reaching out through all those years, to talk once more to lonely confused Chiron.

I felt feels I haven't felt in months. Thought I was dead inside after breaking up from my last ex desu.

>>79890063
>schlockfest for liberals who love to feel sad about the poor pathetic black man

Liberals secretly hate Black people, and want to turn them all gay.

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>>79891978
>black heterosexual males don't bully gay people at all
>I'm black and never made gay black boys feel bad.

3 posts later


>faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot suck dick faggot fago faggot suck dick

>>79892009
Yep, I'm leaving right now for the hospital. Thanks, anon. Before I go and have myself checked for not wanting to watch gay black men kissing, I'd suggest watching some ISIS videos so when I get back we can empathize with things we don't like together and overcome it :)

>>79891978
>You said I don't get to speak for this movie
No I didn't. I said you don't get to speak for your entire race, which you most definitely don't. Again, work on your reading comprehension.
>trying to make straight black males look bad because of his personal experiences
Did we not literally just say that the movie is not a reflection of the entire race? You're literally too retarded to argue with.
>IMO you are just a mad as fuck white liberal faggot who sucks dick and is mad at me because I speak out against your shitty liberal movie. Learn do deal with it faggot and go take your anti retrovirals while you are at.
For someone so angry about niggers being portrayed as homophobic, you sure seem awfully homophobic.

>>79889573
be prepared to sit through the whole thing if you go, walking out makes you a racist

>people think Chiron was bullied for being gay
No one even knew he was gay you dumb faggots. He was bullied because he was a weird quiet kid.

>>79889573
Fun Fact: only white people watched this

White boys can watch it but only if you wear a chastity cage and eat your popcorn out of a dog bowl

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>>79892035
Doomed from the start. and Andre Holland played that feeling of disappointment but not surprise too well. And just a dash of guilt.

>>79892219
You can play that angle all you want, as you have been doing the whole thread. I'm not white, more importantly the creators of the movie aren't either. It's objectively false that only white people can take something from this story.

>>79889694
trying this hard. Your not batman but i bet you have seen it haven't you.

>>79889573
I just watched it and basically the whole movie just is about a black gay person, but he doesn't even act that gay the whole time. I get what it's talking about with the fake exterior because he didn't feel comfortable with himself, but I walked away from it feeling like I hadn't really gotten anything from it.

It wasn't a BAD movie but I don't think it was anything amazing either. There are much MUCH better "self-discovery" movies out there, ones that actually have a strong resolution and things that happen.

>>79892097
>>79892135

Again, moonlight is an attack on straight black males in the eyes of white liberals. Its a movie made for white liberals to make black males look bad.

Are we homophobic? Absolutely. Why? Because Blacks have the highest HIV rates of any race. Why do we have high HIV rates? Because of gay as fuck niggers. We have a very good reason to be. We must remain steadfast. We will never ever accept gays like whites.

>>79892319
>trying this hard to convince white people.

Okay, Mr. Mulatto. It's time you got back to the blm protest.

>>79892292

>Implying it is more undignified to eat greasy popcorn out of a dog bowl than out of a cardboard box

WEW.
LAD.
PURE.
IDEOLOGY.

>>79892413
Das rasc... homophobic? Yeah, you're scared of gays!! That must be it.

>>79892035
Something about that girls face makes me want to hate fuck her so much. She looks like she'd be an annoying slut.

>>79890900
How fucking sheltered are you ?
Are you just 11 years old ?

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>mfw it took me watching the movie to realize the cover was the 3 versions of the main character and not just a really ugly black man

>>79892383
It's the inverse of a self-discovery movie. He never discovers himself. And I personally haven't seen many films that pull off that kind of frustrated ending, It definitely doesn't have a strong resolution, I agree. Although I thought in the context of the movie him snapping and beating the shit out of the bully was about as dramatic as you could get given how under the surface most of the emotion was beforehand (and the score worked really well in that scene btw). But I agree, the ending is dry, because it's a life that isn't lived.

>>79892468
(You)

>>79892516

>says that faggot that has to take 15 anti retrovirals every day

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>>79889573
>tfw black

Literally no black person has watched this film

Only middle class white liberals watch shit like this

>>79889665
>if you hate niggers and faggots you are a terrible person
why ?
maybe you grew up and live in a so diverse place, but here we don't have that, so they are abnormal

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>last oscars people complaining about too many white people
>/tv/ says "instead of bitching to get whitey to put blacks in movies why don't black people make their own movies"
>black people make kino and win awards
>/tv/ still triggered
Admit whitey got btfo and moonlight was undeniably kino of the year.

>>79892654
>but here we don't have that, so they are abnormal

do you hate everything that's not normal?

>>79890660
this +1

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>>79892694
Undeniably kino of the year desu. I agree

>>79892719
Now admit white women are a slave to BBC.

>>79892604
It was a joke

>>79892694
good post

moonlight is what a black movie should be (i.e. not just a white movie with black actors forced into it that contradict the setting and context of the film). maybe /tv/ just wants blacksaw ridge

>>79892697
Not him, but I personally don't like things that aren't what I consider normal. I don't hate them, but I definitely want to live in a place that is comfortable for my tastes.

>>79892413
Maybe stop gobbling so much black cock on the weekend, and you won't risk getting HIV.

>gay nigger gets bullied in school
HOW DRAMATIC

when will be a movie about ganged up minorities bully normies.. you know, like in real life?

>>79889573
Just watched it. Story is mediocre. The first 2 acts are bad, the third is pretty good which means people overrate it due to recency effect. Acting from the teens and kids is AWFUL, which is really bad when two thirds of the movie relies on it. The adult actors are very good, I think its deserved that it got at least one acting Oscar. Winning Best Movie is preposterous, it simply lacks the storytelling or thematic qualities that a Best Movie should have.

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>>79889573
I am very mad still.
Why did it win?
LLL was better in everything except for script.
Was it for the script? Welp then fuck me Manchester should have won then

>>79889818
All of these points are correct, but its a bit selective to not mention the acting, which was actually pretty damn good from the adult actors.

>>79889573

Do you really not watch movies with black leads because you aren't black?

>>79892858
>mediocre
>bad
>overrated
>awful
>bad
>very good
I'm interested in hearing an expansion on these if you have them. Like what specifically makes x bad or good. All you're saying is half an opinion - and it's the vague half that requires no thought, You could be talking about literally anything and your post wouldn't change at all.

>>79892719
Shit, has literally not been here for years, just came by because I saw the film, and was interested in seeing what my old "buddies" thought of it. (General not surprised by there shit opinions)

But seeing that dumb name, brings back some good times. is desu still around?

>>79892976
Hey buddy

t. desu

>>79890075
Wut? He literally acted beta in every single scene in the two first acts except when he snapped and smashed Jamarcus with the chair. He was an obvious bullying target in a macho environment like a black urban area.

The change from act 2 to 3 was completely unbelieavable, theres simply no way a beta bitch in high school becomes a buff drug dealer of higher rank than corner boy without some major character development, which they didnt show us.

>>79890406
>>79890415
>>79891242
>>79891413

>reddit spacing
Go back

>>79892814

Fags spread HIV through sodomy. HIV is gay a disease. It's why it was called GRIDS when first first discovered in the 1980s. HIV is mostly spread though sodomy. It is the cruse of God.

Remember

For the wages of sin is death.

This movie has ZERO appeal to actual black people. Your average nigga is gonna hate this movie for all the gay shit. This movie has extremely narrow appeal, it is only for white liberals. The only black people watching this are liberal arts students from peppy suburbs who would last a maximum of 5 seconds in a ghetto before they get their ass beat or mugged.

>>79891978
>nigger nigger nigger faggot libcuck

you might as well have saved some time and effort and just replied with this generic shitpost initially.

>>79893112
you forgot reddit

>>79889694

But your parents didn't love you, so you can still relate to it don't worry

>>79893037
>He literally acted beta in

Acting beta won't get you ostracized in the black community. It's when you act really effeminate and gay that straight black men take exception to you. It's why down low nigs exist. They act straight but fuck men up the ass in private. Its a huge problem in the black community because they spread HIV to their black gf/wives who are innocent of all of this. Like that light skin nigga in moonlight with a kid. He is gay but has a wife/gf who he had kids with.

>>79889573

it's a faggot movie

>>79893112

t.triggered white liberal

>>79892975

Ok, story is lacking because there is no continuity. The jump from act 2 to 3 is too large with too much change having happened that there is no explanation of. The change in Chiron's character removes my suspension of disbelief. Its lazy storytelling to have the audience fill in so much. First 2 acts are bad mainly because the acting is bad (I cant really expand on this other than a kid just looking into the ground every scene is not "acting") and everything that happens is generic (weak kid getting bullied, druggie mom, external father figure is all nothing new).

Actors are very good because they convey emotions well, how does this need explanation. Scene with the mom at rehab, scene at the end with Chiron and Kevin, were well acted and emotional scenes.

Overall theres too much lacking for a Best Movie award imo, but the acting from the adult actors made it worth a watch.

>>79890075
He wasn't bullied for being gay, he was bullied for not fitting in. He was distant and quiet. People take that as a slight to them. This board has a lot of /r9k/ crossposters, it's a wonder more people don't relate to.

The other gay guy was actually a lot more camp/outwardly stereotypically gay, but he also sucked up to the other guys and accepted the social hierarchy of strength. As a result they never picked on him.

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>watching a movie about faggots

Why is /tv/ defending this again? Oh, wait. I almost forgot that this was Reddit.

>>79893386
>He wasn't bullied for being gay, he was bullied for not fitting in.

Wrong. He was bullied for being gay. Watch the movie again. The anti gay undertones of the antagonist is very obvious.

Moonlight = gay black dude that got bullied in high school by straight black men and made a revenge film to attack heterosexual straight black men

It's disgusting. At the end of the day the director a gay black man that will still be seen by the vast majority as a black man. This movie hurts black man immensely. fuck you, fuck this movie and fuck white liberals for promoting it.

>>79889573
>>79889694
>I can't watch movies unless the protagonist physically looks identical to me

This is what autism looks like

>>79893359
I think the second act ended on the perfect note for the third act to make sense. They didn't need a 20 minute extension on the second act of him toughening up. That's a trope in itself that was easily done away with, and the transformation had more value as a dramatic end in itself as a result of skipping it.

>First 2 acts are bad mainly because the acting is bad (I cant really expand on this other than a kid just looking into the ground every scene is not "acting") and everything that happens is generic (weak kid getting bullied, druggie mom, external father figure is all nothing new).
I can agree that the first two Kevin actors are quite weak. Actually, they're weak to the point where they don't even really feel like logical extensions of each other or the version in the third act. I don't think Chiron's first actors were groundbreaking either, but they did play the character well and made sense at least.

As for the plot points, sure they are generic on a superficial level. What makes them different is that they aren't resolved in that stereotypical way. He never forgives his mother, he loses respect for the father figure pretty early. And where the child actor performances weren't groundbreaking, the main adults from the first two acts were damn near flawless.

>Actors are very good because they convey emotions well, how does this need explanation.
Chiron was really emotionless and hidden. Repressed, really. He felt he couldn't show emotions. I thought the kids actually did that really well, even if it looked like acting. The scenes with Kevin and at the rehab were supposed to be anomalies, literally the first times he opened up in a decade (or even his whole life). And even then they had to force it out of him.

I don't know about best picture, the whole award thing is self-congratulatory BS with no real consistent logic to it. I also think it's kinda boring to just talk about stuff in terms of best and everything else

>>79889573
Seeing as it made fuck all money at the box office, you can be pretty sure virtually nobody, especially black people, went to watch it

>>79893624
The director is not gay.

Chiron was unambiguously bullied for being gay, though. Watch the scene where his mom is yelling at Juan in the street again.

>>79893786
Not the other guy but...
>As for the plot points, sure they are generic on a superficial level. What makes them different is that they aren't resolved in that stereotypical way. He never forgives his mother.

Most of the plot points were not resolved and the things resolved were not accomplished by Chiron or were done off screen. The mother subplot was solved off camera and we did have a short scene of them coming back together

>>79893518
why are you here then?

>>79890075
It's not only that he is gay, although that is a part of it (the bully in high school shit on the clothes he wore, for example). It's also because he's little, shy, and somewhat effeminate. As a kid everyone calls him little and he doesn't play sports with the other boys, for example. Then as an adult he bulks up and becomes a super manly man, partly as a response to that and also because Juan was the only father figure he knew

Also I can tell you that in high school some guys really do have a gaydar and rumors and shit spread very quickly. One of my best friends was a closeted gay and even though he never actually dated a guy until college a bunch of people somehow knew and everyone spread rumors about him.

>>79889573
It's literally a movie for upper middle class white ladies. I watched it in my uni cinema and hilariously the theater had me, two other Asian, one muslim looking guy and two dozens of white ladies or couples. Not a single black dude.

>>79890075
the lead bully was obviously gay and had a thing for him but didnt want to accept it hence the behaviour.

>>79893875
What do you mean it was solved? They had a scene in which she said pretty explicitly, that she knew he wouldn't forgive him but at least wanted him to know she was sorry. He doesn't answer her (IIRC), he just hugs her and remains quite withdrawn. That's not a traditional resolution.

As for her addiction, if that's what you're referring to, the movie simply isn't about her. It's Chiron's life. We don't see Juan die, we don't see Kevin deal with his sexuality either. Pretty much every scene is through his eyes. He went away, so we stopped seeing everyone else.

But, hey, I thought they were pretty interesting characters (especially Juan), maybe you're right and it is a flaw of the film that we didn't see more of them. But I do think it worked as being Chiron's story, and it would have fundamentally changed the nature of the film to show more of them.

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>Before the Oscars
>Majority of /tv/ agrees Moonlight is kino and La La Land is cheesy theater culture horseshit
>After the Oscars
>MOONLIGHT IS PANDERING SJW SHIT LA LA LAND GOT ROBBED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>79893964
>Minorities were only a minority of the audience
Really makes you think...

>>79889818

>no mention of acting
>no mention of cinematography

you grade movies like a middle school teacher grades essays

stick to capekino, my leddit friend.

>>79894174
Before i continue i have to say i am quite salty about moonlight winning but it doesnt mean that it was a bad movie, it was good just not enough for best picture i think.
IMO The only thing Moonlight (Arguably) had better than La La Land was the script. If we are going for Best script= Best picture then Manchester should have won.

>What do you mean it was solved? They had a scene in which she said pretty explicitly, that she knew he wouldn't forgive him but at least wanted him to know she was sorry. He doesn't answer her (IIRC), he just hugs her and remains quite withdrawn. That's not a traditional resolution.
The fact that it's not traditionally solved is in my opinion not a point in favor, it was rushed and while in your perspective Chiron never forgived, the hug and overall nature of the dialogue in the scene do give a quite cliche sense of resolution
>It's Chiron's life. We don't see Juan die, we don't see Kevin deal with his sexuality either. Pretty much every scene is through his eyes.
My problem is that we see his problems through his eyes, but not how he deals with any of them, we live in his POV for max 2 days before a time skip

>>79892625

>sheltering yourself from black art/media because of internalized perception of your own race as a singular entity

damn i'm not even black but you are some fucking uncle tom coon

>>79891232
>PoC

What the fuck happened to this board

>>79894324
>My problem is that we see his problems through his eyes, but not how he deals with any of them, we live in his POV for max 2 days before a time skip

Not him, but we kinda do. He gets away from his mother by staying with Juan's gf, and he ends up beating his bully with a chair.

>>79894324
>Before i continue i have to say i am quite salty about moonlight winning but it doesnt mean that it was a bad movie, it was good just not enough for best picture i think.
>IMO The only thing Moonlight (Arguably) had better than La La Land was the script. If we are going for Best script= Best picture then Manchester should have won.
Like I said, not than interested in this part. If you know better than me a way to actually compare these films directly, then I'm not going to disagree.

>My problem is that we see his problems through his eyes, but not how he deals with any of them, we live in his POV for max 2 days before a time skip
Right, but in each of those short snapshots, we do see him respond to a big life event. Either it's finding out the only guy he trusts sells drugs to his mum, and he walks away from him. Or he snaps after getting bullied for a while and even his friend turns on him. To me that's what makes it great, it's a pretty standard length movie but we see just enough of his day-to-day behaviour to kind of know him somewhat intimately but also enough significant isolated life events for it to work as a drama.

The last major life event is left open-ended, I think effectively. It's not a happy ending necessarily. He doesn't live happily ever after with Kevin, he spends a night with him. It's a portrait of a young man, so going further would make it impractically long and kinda dishonest since it is based on the real experiences of two people who haven't lived their whole lives yet.

>>79891242
>>79891574
So does this mean being gau and finding a boyfriend isn't easier than being straight and trying to find a girlfriend?

I get no attention from girls but I've been hit on by gay men before. Lately I've been thinking that maybe I wouldn't be so lonely if I was gay. But sadly, I can't shake my attraction to women.

>>79889694
You've never been a superhero either, but that doesn't mean you didn't enjoy eating shit when the Avengers came out

>>79894966
kekking hard desu

>>79889573
NOBODY ACTUALLY LIKES BLACK PPL MOVIES 2BH

SJW WHITES MIGHT WATCH IT OUT OF GUILT BUT THEY DONT REALLY WANT TO

>>79889818
>tyrone or whatever his name was

Stopped reading there. if you cant even remember his name, you're not qualified to give a review.

Personally I thought it was alright 7/10

No black person wants this film.

>>79895803
THATS BECAUSE THEYRE IN DENIAL ABOUT THE LARGE DOWN-LOW HOMOSEX PREVALENCE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY

>W-WE KANGZ N-NOT FAGGOTS