https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkXgRlRao5I
>The official prologue to Alien: Covenant introduces the crew of the mission as they gather for a final meal before entering cryosleep.
>Set aboard the Covenant, a colonization ship on its way to a remote planet to form a new human settlement, the main crew (all couples) and their android, Walter, enjoy their final meal together before cryosleep.
thoughts?
Who cares about the bait multicultural 'look we've got gays now too' advert propaganda.
I wanna talk about the story.
the big twists are going to be that the black Xenomorph was designed by David and not the engineers and he'll switch places with Walter at the end of the movie.
I speculate that either in this or the next movie, david will use the 2000 colonists on the covenant to make the eggs inside the Juggernaught in 'Alien', then either himself or somebody else crashlands it on LV426 to thwart his plan of fucking over humanity or something
>>79711732
ENDLESS TRASH
>>79711732
lel, learn to use the catalog
WTF is this a parody? those LMAO WEED guys are in this movie?
dropped
>>79711732
>get excited about the movie
>Franco, Mcbride
What the fuck.
>>79711732
Absolute fucking trash. Prometheus had the same ARG marketing faggotry going on.
Ridley Scott needs to die already.
>>79711793
maybe that faggot could title his thread, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
rebooting the mumblecore style of the original Alien. I should have known they would do this.
>>79712627
Also the hoola girl is the new version of that bird thing
>>79711830
>not liking Franco
why
>>79711732
>gay white male couple
>2 interracial couples, both black and white
>white female main character
into the trash it goes
>>79711732
what the fuck is that Seth Rogen lackey doing in this serious movie?
>>79711732
>hand-held camera
why
>Franco
>Kenny Powers
DUDE
>>79712707
>white female main character
Man I agree, the original Alien film was such pandering trash amirite?
>>79711732
>something hidden agenda
>something cyborg goes rogue
>something xenomorph carnage
>cut to sequel bait ending/sole survivor
>>79711732
>aww look who decided to leave his cryosleep chamber and join us!
>>79712647
Funny how that scene still completely BTFO the one of the OP from every point of vue.
>>79711732
Could they possibly have found a more unappealing heroine ?
Ok, Amu Schumer would be worse... but still... reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>79712973
she will die though so who cares
>female lead is a dog
>there will be no underwear Ripley equivalent scenes
DROPPED
>>79712973
they want the floppy white girl audience
>faggot couple
>TWO interracial couples
>only arseholes are the white couple
>NO EYE CANDY
fucking dropped
>>79712973
The short hair is the problem. She looks amazing with long hair.
>>79712973
I think she's kinda cute :3
Anyone got the leaks? I want to hear how they all die.
>>79713084
I'm actually glad none of them are Charlize Theron attractive, it was distracting how beautiful she was in a movie that's supposed to be scary
bunch of alt-right sjw moaning in these threads, jesus christ. you have become what you hate i guess.
>>79711732
>thoughts?
it's literally, figuratively objectively and subjectively taylor made for reddit
Prometheus hype threads were magical
>>79711732
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE DYED HAIR THIS IS SO UNREALISTIC AS THE FUTURE
>>79711830
>He doesn't like the man himself, McBride
You have a weak constitution and probably weak genes to boot
>>79713283
>>79712973
she looks nice. Better than a gorilla nigger or some "10/10" bimbo cunt
>>79713111
Digits don't lie
>>79711732
The religious allegories are nice and all, but have we worked out the bonus situation?
looks bad but i'll watch it in the kinographeria
>>79712973
she's cute
>>79713111
>>79713444
Well, shit.
>>79711732
DUDE GAY LMAO
>>79713401
>they will never make a synth of her...
>>79713468
Must say
>>79713444
>>79713111
must be telling us something.
>>79713208
were there such leaks?
>Danny McBride will survive and kill all the ayylmaos
(lol
>>79713444
>>79713111
>>79713208James Franco dies during cryosleepThe other guy (Billy Crudup) he's talking to in the prologue becomes captainThe grill and Tennessee (Danny McBride) survives99% of the crew die from neomorphs (white ayys) while the new captain gets facehuggered midway through the filmThe captain dies via chestburster when they return to the Covenant and spawns a proto-ayylmaoDavid 1.0 kills all the Engineers by dropping their own goo at them and then later kills Shaw for his diabolical ebil experimentsDavid 2.0 is a good David but he gets blown away and then replaced by David 1.0 near the endTennessee (Danny McBride) will blow up David 1.0's lair, the neomorphs and the proto-ayyThe proto-ayy will kill a few dozen colonists aboard the Covenant and the grill and Tennesse will attempt to trap it via one of Covenant's disposable utility hatchesThere's a scene where the proto-ayy murders a bunch of colonists in a throwback to the escape pod scene in Ayylmao: ResurrectionUnironically enough there's also a scene where the proto-ayy chases David 1.0 in a le epik Ayylmao 3 chase sequence where the proto-ayy murders random colonists who are running away.Tennessee sets up a single remote turret to cover the grill and everyone else's escape but the proto-ayylmao dodges all of the shots. Clearly it was taking potshots at Cameron's Aliens.In the final scene it shows Tennessee and the grill returning to cryosleep and David 1.0 smuggled ayylmao eggs and looks at an entire legion of cryosleeping colonists and he skips like a motherfucker
>>79714177
I am surprisingly okay with this.
>>79714177
>David 1.0 kills all the Engineers by dropping their own goo at them
source?
>>79714273
Remember the Engineer ship he and Shaw took in Prometheus?
It still carries goo and he dropped it on unsuspecting Engineers that wiped out all of them and turned their planet into shit in a flashback.
He also got repaired off-screen by Shaw during the trip so no talking head with wires and shit on it.
>>79711732
why did they bring gay people to start a new human colony?
>>79714363
this, I'm not seeing this retarded trash
They are really trying to recreate the whole "real crew-feel" that the original Alien had going. Which is a good thing.
>>79711732
>(all couples)
>>79711732
Her in short hair is growing on me.
>>79713444
is she about to join a kirk alien gangbang?
>>79714393
they didn't really think it through when they decided to bring genetic dead ends along... but they got to keep pushing the agenda
>>79714350
Link to original leak?
>>79714177
I won't even bother to read this desu
>Franco
why?
>>79712837
Difference was the female character turned out to be a twist as the main character, this is forced
danny mcbride can't act for his life
>>79714864
>The twist this time is Danny "Tenn" McBride is the main character.
>colonization mission
>sending a gay couple
That's not how you build a healthy society
>>79716312
Was the colony ship going one way or returning. If it was returning then having a gay couple is not that huge of a deal.
>>79716312
i have nothing against gays but this is really fucking stupid
>>79711732
Dumb question.
Is the ship returning?
Otherwise why would you put gays to a distant colony. Doesn't that break the point (barring it some weird ass shaker colony)
A prequel to a horror released some time prior to the main thing?
Holy shit. Movies are taking something from videogames (I'm talking about P.T. and RE7: Beginning Hour)
>>79711732
Goddamn, the shot continuity was awful. I lost count of the number of times that in a cut where no time was supposed to have passed, people were looking in distractingly different directions and things.
>>79711732
Well, that was dull.
>expecting Paradise to be full of wonders and eldritch shit and fucked up physics
>dude it's like earth lmao
Ridley is completely senile
>>79714177
Jesus, can you type this out without all the stupid memes?
>>79716982
Directed by his son, what do you expect?
>tfw no blockbuster director daddy to allow me to order the cast around
>>79711732
The cinematography is atrocious, like a TV B-movie. What the fuck?
>>79711732
Why everything looks more modern that in Alien???
>>79711732
They seem like real people and looks fun before they get slaughter.
Looks great.
>>79717568
Brand new ship, while the Nostromo was a shitcan that had been working for 30 plus years.
>>79712973
Why didn't they just cast MEW?
>>79711830
>Not wanting to see Kenny fucking Powers call Xenomorphs space fucking faggots
>you now remember how insanely hyped everyone was for Prometheus yet no one cares about this 3 months from release
We didn't ask for a dull Aliens clone but that's what we're getting
>>79717493
This, why isn't it being mentioned more? Like a fucking film school student shot it
>>79717493
>>79718048
Ridley's kid shot it
>>79714177
This sounds awful. Why not build on the mythology from Prometheus?
>>79718185
What mythology? That shit was mostly a mess. This is supposedly the home planet, so surely we'll see some advancement on that front.
>>79718070
why not his bro, we'd get top gun in space or something? oh wait
Is it autistic that I am mainly annoyed that the marines have contemporary weapons and not the Aliens weapons?
>>79718226
Clearly not given they land on a lifeless planet which should I instantly tell you the engineers are dead/gone
What a fucking disappointment. I don't want another boring shitty slasher flick
>>79717833
she already did the hollywood equivalent of getting BLACKED by doing the thing prequel
>>79711732
Dude one of the niggers fuck a white girl in the shower lmao
>>79718298
I suppose I have to ask why do you care about the engineers? I thought they were a worthless addition to the universe. There was not enough information about them for them to even pique my interest. They seemed kind of bullshit.
>>79718244
Look anon your moms dildo has arrived
>>79711732
>James Franco
>Danny McBride
Is this a fucking Judd Apatow movie?
Why are are there homosexuals on a colonization mission?
>>79718373
So you don't care that they answer the first scene from Prometheus when the engineer commits sudoku?
>>79718574
Why do people think that they plan on populating the planet with only 12 people?
>>79718628
Must be a ship full of colonists in cryo sleep, or it's straight bullshit. One of the two .
>White girl starts choking
>Little black boi helpless to do anything
>Alpha white man strides forwards and saves her with a single powerful strike
Calm down Scott!
>>79718628
would be interesting to see the results after a few generations starting with 12
Just fuck my hollywood career up.
>>79718628
Regardless of whether they're taking embryos or stasis pods or whatever else with them, you still logically wouldn't bring along gays. It's a pure conservational; you have to be as efficient as possible on this sort of mission. It doesn't make sense to do this over taking another straight couple to produce and raise a family.
>>79718665
There would be thousands in cryosleep. NASA has said they would want 10,000 for a space colony.
You could go with only 16, but that would require everyone to have babies (the island of Tristan and its 200-300 settlers are all from 16 people. They are all healthy except 1/2 have asthma.)
>>79718727
If you are bringing more then 1,000, you can sacrifice a few spots for key skills even if they are flamers.
Fuck me, Franco is in this? Well, here's hoping he has no dialogue and dies in cryo-sleep before the movie starts.
I'd come to terms with McBride, but Franco is just a fucking mess of a human being and they've dyed Fassbenders hair black to differentiate him from David but it looks tacky as shit.
Prometheus was the last trailer to genuinely get me excited for a film but the trailer for this was awful. Whelp, at least I won't get burned again, I can watch this knowing it'll be trash.
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>>79718584
Not really. I mean, it seems kind of incomprehensible. The implication is that he drank black goo and it corrupted his DNA enough to turn into our DNA. It's already maddeningly silly. I mean don't get me wrong, I love sci-fi and most of Lindelof's works, but i just didn't think anything from his story worked here. To me it all felt like senseless bullshit that I don't care about. I realize not everyone feels the same, so I'll ask, what interested you?
>>79718762
I don't think you understand me. It's not a question of whether they can sacrifice a genetic lineage and still get by.
If I go on a backpacking trip through the mountains, I could pack an extra sleeping bag. I have room for it, so it's not like I'll fail if I have it, but there's no reason for me to take that extra one with me. It doesn't serve enough of a purpose as it is to warrant bringing. It doesn't have enough value to bring along.
So too with the gay couple. There's literally no reason not to take a straight couple who will produce yet another lineage of offspring for the colony. The gays might be good crewmen, but that's not the point. All you do is sacrifice utility by bringing them instead of a straight couple, and for no benefit.
>>79718778
I think it that it eliminates the old and rebuilds into something new.
I am fine with it in a non-hard SF movie, and I do not think Prometheus, or the alien films for that matter, are hard science fiction.
>>79711732
>pure majesty
WTF?
>>79718858
Weyland-Yutani or whoever funded this whole trip has diversity quotas
That's why Billy Crudup is so uncomfortable, well that and Franco being the captain
>>79718858
What i am saying is this.
You kneed X skills, and it indicated it a one way trip.
You might not have willing people with X skill that are hetroseuxal.
Also, it might be a way to purge of the homosexuals in one generation.
have 2,000 settlers.
you know that there a good chance about 100-200 will be fags even if you weed them out, being in the closet and all that.
So instead you make sure they are opening about it, they match off and end themselves in a generation without producing kids, and you don't have a colony with kids randomly showing up as gays.
>>79718373
Engineers are total bullshit. The mystique of the giant spacejockey from Alien made it interesting. Explaining them with some AYO HOL UP WE WUZ ANCIENT ALIENS N SHIT nonsense was underwhelming.
Not to mention that the idea of engineers being billions of years old and seeding life on Earth that somehow then evolved over millions of years from bacteria to protozoa to worms to fish to amphibians to synapsids to mammals and finally into humans that just so happen to look just like the engineers that originally seeded the planet 3 billion years ago is utterly retarded.
>>79718859
I don't think they're hard sci-fi either, but they were at least grounded pretty heavily in a gritty reality, or at least the first one was. In any case the idea of (maybe) a bunch of ancient aliens (maybe) creating humans and then (maybe) wanting to wipe them out was a bit ridiculous. Like, give me something real to make sense of all this high-concept shit you're throwing at me. It felt a little like it was disappearing up its own ass.
>>79718929
But having a gay diversity quota on a colonization mission doesn't make sense.
>>79718937
You're talking about probability of gays vs having an outright gay couple in the crew who you know will not produce offspring.
If you were to recruit people for a colonization mission (whether for crew or for the stasis pods) you would weed out homosexuals. Just as you would weed out the elderly and the infertile. You wouldn't bring them along unless you (for some reason) had absolutely no other choice.
>>79711732
Soooo... uh... Rachel Maddow is in this?
>>79718858
We don't know the overall goal for this supposed "colonization". It might just be to set up a colony that's akin to a space station, with occasional trips back-and-forth between earth.
>>79719029
You do realize what colonization means, right?
>>79711774
Is there fags? On board a COLONISING SHIP?? That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard.
>>79719012
If I was setting up a space colony, I would be doing Mormons or Orthodox Jews.
That said, Space crews willing to go one way would not be a easy sell, they might of had to settle for some gay folks.
Or there might be corporate or government dictates that do not let you weed them out.
>>79719012
I doubt a room full of 12 people can sustain a long term colony anyway. And there's nothing to suggest they're carrying thousands on board. I think the idea is for this crew to find and establish a foothold on possible planets. We just don't have enough information.
>Conceived by Ridley Scott and 3AM, directed by Luke Scott, and produced by RSA Films.
He should stop giving scraps to his hack son
>>79714363
>>79714393
>>79714450
I mean they can still be sperm donors, plus one non-pregnant man is going to be able to accomplish much more than a no doubt constantly pregnant woman. You can't just bring one gay dude because he'd get all lonely and shit so you need to bring a pair. Plus some of the "straight" men are probably bi and if they know for sure there's some gay dudes in the colony they can suck a dick every now and then without too much trouble. It makes *some* sense (there's way more colonists that the ones just in this video, right?). But I'm gay, and even I was bothered by how obvious they made the gay couple. As long as they aren't invulnerable and die just as easily as everyone else in the film I don't really give a shit. But if the goal is to normalize homosexuals, don't stick a giant fucking neon sign above their heads that reads "FAGS."
>>79719068
Technically nothing about the word colony suggests it has to be completely sustainable with an independent future. It's just people living somewhere else. And what's more is that these guys might just be preparing the way for the actual colony to arrive.
>when you realize you fell for Ridley's lies again
looks a bit cheap and amateur
I wish Evangelion never popularized covering up your poorly written sci-fi with a thick glaze of religious iconography.
>>79714424
i want to grow my penis inside her vagina, if you catch my drift.
>>79713314
Explain the logic behind a homosexual couple being picked to colonise a new planet.
>>79718574
kek
I don't like Franco usually, just because he just irks me a little and the type of films he is often in, but i can appreciate he is a good actor and doesn't harm my enjoyment of stuff he is in usually. But Danny McBride, damn. Unfortunately i know already this is going to really effect my enjoyment of the film even if it is well made, god he's fucking awful, i really don't understand why they brought him in.
>>79713314
I'm not moaning about the presents of gays. I'm pointing out how nonsensical it is for them to be on a colonization mission.
If there were a bunch of old people incapable of producing children, I'd call that out too.
>>79717258
>>expecting Paradise to be full of wonders and eldritch shit and fucked up physics
i expected that too. i wanted it to be a world so mesmerizingly beautiful but dangerous as fuck.
instead we get this brainfart reboot of senile ridley.
>>79719416
>mfw realizing it's actually a Pineapple Express sequel
>>79719377
You haven't seen the movie. You have no idea if their plan for colonization entails a crew of a dozen people breeding.
>>79719436
The last good movie Scott made was Gladiator. Everything after that has been a complete train-wreck and self-fart-sniffing
>>79719484
So your argument is benefit of the doubt then? After the movie comes out and it becomes even more clear that bringings gays along doesn't make any sense, will you then switch to our side of the debate then?
>>79719484
If they don't breed the colony dies and the company has to send out another ship. Maybe the second time they won't send out evolutionary dead ends.
>>79719165
>neon sign above their head that reads "FAGS"
That's not what happened you moron. They're not obvious at all. I actually missed it the first time becaus of how poorly edited the scene is. If not for that single shot of them holding hands you wouldn't know they were gay.
so many people bitching about covenant. these same people fucking praise the garbage pirates series.
>>79712627
Or you can call it a rehash
>>79719484
There's literally no argument for taking a gay couple over a straight couple. For any reason you can think of to bring a gay couple, you could bring a straight couple who can do all the same things they do, and also produce an extra set of children.
Every single little thing like this would matter on a colonization mission. You can hide behind minor unknown details and try to rationalize why it's improper to make a judgment on it yet, but there is absolutely no benefit or reason for this.
>>79719572
They were making out on the table while every called them adorable. I'm sorry you're both deaf and blind.
>>79719539
Actually yes, because if their plan really was to begin a long term, self sustainable colony, I'd question why the fuck they only brought 12 people to begin with. The more I hear about the idea that they're just laying the groundwork for the main body, the more it makes sense. I think they're just the scouting party.
>>79719165
>I mean they can still be sperm donors,
That doesn't justify it. Sperm is cheap and wombs are expensive, in biologic terms. This would be a reasonable argument to having a lesbian couple who agree to each get pregnant from donor sperm. But having extra sperm donors around doesn't help at all, as the females are the population growth bottleneck.
Think about it. In a theoretical extreme situation, you could have 1000 fertile women and 1 stud to knock them all up. But reverse the situation and have 1000 dudes and 1 woman, and no matter how many times she gets gangbanged, she's still going to be bottlenecked with a 9 month pregnancy and a recovery period before getting pregnant again.
>>79719659
I've already gone over this argument in the thread. Even if there are more people than shown (there certainly would be) you still wouldn't sacrifice having another fertile couple and replace them with a dead-end gay couple. Every single body counts.
>>79713436
this. Atleast she is not mexican or negro. I hate when the main heroine is some smug mexican chick who is always kicking everyone's ass and not afraid of anything and don't need a man. I would definatelly shit on this movie 24 hours 7 days a week if it would be some smug mexican girl i hate i hate i hate
>>79711732
you're shitting me, right?
>>79719757
Man, the ships has like 100 people and they are FROZEN. Those gays are just for maintance and support of the colony. They are like castrated drones who work for the hive, so don't woryy
>>79718265
Aliens is shit compared to the first one.
>>79719082
>implying colonizing needs woman at all
Anon, you do know how advanced their technology is right? You think they don't have artificial wombs they can use to speed up the process?
Also, their mission is clearly to set up an environment for the people from Earth as implied by the line "everyone back on earth, who is really grateful". They aren't going to the new planet to fuck and make babies, but terraforming it most likely(as in the original movies where terraforming is an establish process) for future colonist from Earth.
>>79719757
>Even if there are more people than shown (there certainly would be)
Why do you get to spew bullshit supporting your narrative but I can't? The description says they're creating a new human settlement, not that they're going to be cut off from the rest of humanity forever.
If the movie comes out and it turns out that's exactly what they're doing, you can be assured I'll be puzzled as well, but I simply don't think this crew of only a dozen people is going to create a long term, self sustaining colony.
>>79711774
best twist will be that the scientist surivivor in prometheus is the alien queen of 2.
>>79718762
Literally the only argument for it is
>it's okay to waste a little space
Completely retarded.
>>79719962
It's true though. And it's the future, Maybe they brought embryos and whatnot.
>the last supper
>one of them is a traitor
wow so deep bravo
>>79719802
Yes because companies love to hire couples for important jobs because inevitable relationship drama is SO beneficial in a work environment.
>>79719878
They are terraforming the planet for the people on Earth. Otherwise, what the fuck do the people on Earth need to be grateful to a dozen random people leaving Earth to colonize another planet? Like, literally a dozen people wouldn't solve shit if the implication is that Earth is overcrowed and hence we need a new planet.
>>79711732
LEL THAT REFERENCE
GET IT :^)
>>79719989
Noatter how much you try to justify it it is stupid and illogical and it makes the movie stupid. Dropped before I was even hyped.
>>79719626
Unless you can't find a hetrosexual willing to sign up for the mission, or you can dictates from whoever paying for the mission to take a gay couple for PR.
Hell, Jamestown, the first english settlement, out of the first 500 or so people, only 3 where female.
>>79720058
>Dropped before I was even hyped.
Well don't get me wrong, I'm not hyped either. This is the follow-up to Prometheus after all.
explain ridley
>>79720080
>maybe no straight people wanted to go
God your defense is laughable at this point. And Jamestown was a lot closer to england than Paradise is from Earth. Not the same.
>>79716417
>marooned on an alien planet
It's not going back
>that constantly moving camera
>the shitty editing, where the girl choking suddenly has her hands on the table, then in the very next shot has her hand on her throat
>lame ass callback to the original Alien
>Danny McBride and James Franco
>pointless forced homosexual dialogue
I really don't wanna see this movie, but I know I will anyway.
>>79720185
>that constantly moving camera
>the shitty editing, where the girl choking suddenly has her hands on the table, then in the very next shot has her hand on her throat
>lame ass callback to the original Alien
Ridley let his son direct this prologue so it's likely these problems won't carry on to the actual movie
>Danny McBride and James Franco
James Franco dies during cryosleep.
>>79719572
Yeah I'm the moron, there was like a whole minute dedicated to pointing out that they were a gay couple, complete with them kissing and jokes about McBride getting turned on by them and jizzing everywhere. I doubt it'll be anywhere near that blatant in the film but it was obviously done in this as a way to market the film as inclusive.
>>79720138
The fact there's one less offspring from a couple doesn't bother me in the slightest in terms of realism. A long term colony couldn't be sustained from a gene pool this small anyways. I guarantee it'll be something like artificial wombs in the end anyways.
Yeah this looks terrible... Holy shit it's worse that I really expected... If they don't all die within the first half hour it's going to be trash.
Did anyone else notice the editing inconsistencies? The whole scene felt sloppy so I hope it's just a teaser edit and not the final cut. The most jarring one is when that androgynous tom boy dyke trans whatever is about to give the speech at 3:36. Sloppy as shit.
>>79720237
It's just directors being Anti-trump, you better get used to it for the next four years.
>>79720138
Lets be blunt, it not about distance, it isolation.
The fact is that you wouldn't have a "Major colony program" with just 16 people, that too few genetic people. Yes, Tristan did it but they are the exception to the rule.
If you have 1,000s of people in Cyro, it won't fucking matter that you have two people who like to suck each other dicks.
Get 400 people together, you will have 2 men who want to fuck each other and 2-4 woman who want to lick out each other.
>we will never see their home planet
>Prometheus story will never be finished
this is triggering my ocd
>>79720313
>>79720313
They were sent there to die as usual...
>>79711732
>the main crew (all couples) and their android, Walter
There are 9 males, 5 females and 1 android in that pic.
Are we really supposed to think that whatever future government or corporation would waste money on faggot colonists sent to start another world?
Did they perfect the science of male rectum impregnation?I bet that is why WY execs wanted to study facehuggers and alien reproduction.
>>79720294
I'm thinking it's just a teaser edit. There are too many inconsistencies for this to be the final edit. They probably cut stuff out to not spoil anything.
>>79720006
hod do you know they aren't the company themselves? They enterpreneurs or something
>>79719739
I'm not trying to justify them bringing a gay couple with the sperm donor comment, I'm just saying they're not entirely useless in terms of baby making, but yeah after posting that I realized that if you really want gays in your film about colonizing another planet you're better of with lesbians. But in terms of marketing this film towards a wider audience it's obvious why they went with gay men. It's honestly not the right thing to get hung up on. There's some gay dudes in a franchise full of inconsistencies and illogical shit, oh no.
The mental gymnastics that are being put up ITT to explain why non-breeders are part of a colonial initiative is fucking impressive.
Keep going lads.
>>79720138
see>>79719865
If you take "children"(which only the female could produce and artificial insemination is something we can do today and access to artificial wombs would be a logical assumption for the future) out of the equation then there is no reason not to take them either. Your entire argument is based on children being the only goal of a colonization mission, which the movie is clearly implying it's not, and even then it's a shaky argument to be made because of the previously stated reason.
You are also making an assumption that everyone is basically a robot with exactly the same capabilities and ignoring individual merit.
The movie doesn't have a great premise to begin with since we could theoretically just send a bunch of androids to terraform planets and then just go them ourselves when the planets are ready. You could easily program them to look after each other in case one malfunctions the others can fix that unit and so forth.
>>79720524
I do take issue with shoehorning an illogical gay couple for no reason other than virtue-signaling how progressive the moviemakers are.
>>79720524
>But in terms of marketing this film towards a wider audience it's obvious why they went with gay men
Yeah, this movie would total flop, but now everyone is going out in droves to see it because of the homosexual couple. This is the same bullshit used to justify casting black people in European historical settings. Black Queen of England and all that nonsense.
>>79720555
>it's shoehorning if the gay couple is visible
>it's shoehorning if they show PDA
>>79714177
How do the gay guys die?
Who dies by throatburster?
How long does the black guy live?
>>79720692
We already know he gets killed in the shower from the trailer.
>>79720728
That was a white guy in the shower
>>79720660
It's shoehorning to have a gay couple on a colonization mission. What part of this don't you understand?
>>79720756
No it wasnt. It was Callie Hernandez and her (lightly skinned) black boyfriend. Watch it again.
Then come back and apologize to me.
>>79720757
It's stupid in the first place to send a group of twelve people and think that's gonna ensure genetic diversity in the first place. What part of this don't you understand? You latch on the the gay couple because it's an easy nitpick, but the biggest hole is why they think only 12 people can make a colony.
Why bother with a prologue that develops everybody? We watched most of them die in the first trailer
>>79720294
It is not from the film itself. It says fucking prologue in the title and in the video description. Now don't met me wrong, the final film is probably shit too but this prologue shit is just a marketing video and it's directed by Ridley's son, the same guy who did the TED speech thing with Guy Pearce as Weyland that they put online.
>>79720534
The logic is simple.
You wouldn't set up a colony with only 16 people, that far too few people.
If you are taking 1,000s of people in sleepers or otherwise, the fact you have a gay couple really don't matter.
>>79720555
Yeah that is (sort of) the right thing to get hung up on, not the logistics of starting a colony with 1/6th of you population being gay in a universe where faster than light travel is apparently a piece of piss.
>>79720614
Calm down m80. The homosexual couple isn't why people would see it but it does sure make headlines like "Look how progressive the new Alien film is" much easier. And those sort of headlines cause debates online and it's basically free advertising once you get enough people arguing/talking about it.
And it's nothing like sticking black people in historical settings where they don't belong. Gay people exist now, and are only going to get more normalized.
>>79721071
But those would not only be the 16 setting up the colony, far too few people due to inbreeding.
>>79720757
>colonization mission
>we need to make babies
The point of establishing a colony is to allow for immigration from the homeland(Earth), so having a gay couple wouldn't be a problem.
If the crew we see is all there is then there wouldn't be enough genetic variation to establish a healthy colony. You just don't want to see a gay couple on screen and that's all there is too it anon. Trying to justify it in any other way is just sad.
Shit, I just saw John Logan wrote the screenplay. I'm in.
The colony is probably gonna be social experiment like the vaults in fallout. That's why the gay couple is there, alsowho cares, stop getting triggered over trivial shit
>>79721127
That's the point that anon was making. Not enough variation in the starting population and so it makes the gay couple an additional moot point.
Why argue over who gets a bigger piece of the pie if there is not pie to begin with?
It would have been better if David turned Shaw into the proto-Xeno and kept her locked away and went looking for her and then unless xeno-shaw on themselves
>>79721010
This. If you've got thousands then after the first wave of 500 kids you're going to get at least 10 or so gay ones, then what does it matter if you've got 10 gays or 12 gays. Plus you can always just ship all the gays off to another part of the planet where they can live in a utopia of constant buttsex.
>>79721282
>implying equal amounts of tops and bottoms
BUT WILL THERE BE A BONUS SITUATION ?
WHY THE FUCK IS THE CAMERA SO SHAKEY!?
STAND STILL YOU FUCKER.
>>79711732
John Hurt didn't die for this.
>sending gay people for colonization
sigh
>>79712868
Underrated
>>79721339
Well that's only a problem if bottoms > tops but then again this is an alien film so there's bound to be plenty of phallus's lying around (courtesy of Giger) to occupy the bottoms that are left without a top. Also this would be a brand new gay culture so you just have to normalize versatility from the get go.
>>79721405
>Tfw just remembered John Hurt is dead
Thanks jerk
>>79721515
>>79717936
>He's standing there holding up a big ass gun
>One of the Xenomorphs is slowly creeping towards the heroine
>"HEY FUCKFACE!"
>Xenomorph turns and looks at him
>"Eat this fucking cock you big space faggot."
>Blasts it to hell
>>79721492
They just put them in there to have a gay couple in the movie. This is the future.
>>79721642
and then the gay dude gives him a 90 minute lecture on why he isn't allowed to use the word faggot.
>>79721820
that's the buildup to the assburster scene
That was shit. There wasn't any fucking aliens
>>79712707
zionists got you thinking about race and sexuality again huh?
>>79719768
>when you can't get Mexican muff
>when Mexican steal your crush
>when you get bullied on in school my cholos
mexigonnagetyou
>>79713444
>wake up in cold sweat
>see this creature staring at you with black glassy eyes
what do
>>79711732
well it certainly looks familiar
>>79722072
Be fruitful and multiply.
>is there any good games of trying to set up a space colony?
>>79714470
but you bothered to comment...
hello friend
>>79722127
Alpha Centauri, negro
>>79711732
What's with the shaky cam? whatever happened to steady wideshots?
>>79722153
Yep, that game is brilliant.
>>79711732
Space Weed™ Covenant : Seth Rogen is the Alien editionDirector's blunt
>it's a Ridley Scott repeating himself episode
>>79720058
bye then
Is it me or the marketers are out to sell this shit movie today? god fucking damn its not even subtle at this point.
Pretty much the entire board (and site) hates james franco but suddenly, TODAY we get all these strange well spoken posts defending the movie and that joke of an actor.
>>79719509
Kingdom of Heaven (Director's cut) is objectively a good film.
>>79718679
Wasn't that scene a bit cheap? Tricking us to thinking of the chestbuster scene and to immediately realizing that would be retarded beyond belief
>>79721492
Who cares, everyone on their ship will die a horrible death.
>>79721705
Gay AIDS is a counter bio weapon against the aliens
>>79711830
They want the reddit audience,
see:
>>79712672
>>79713396
>>79717936
>>79711732
>only 3 negroes
BRAVO RIDLEY
>>79722318
>Pretty much the entire board (and site) hates james franco
Not true, newfaggot.
>>79714177>David 1.0 kills all the Engineers by dropping their own goo at them and then later kills Shaw for his diabolical ebil experiments
wut
>>79723110
>>79723085
it'd cute that you think you can make a difference.
oh good ppl getting hyped for another shit alien movie
>>79720117
the second part is correct though. what is this guy's "clear evidence"
>>79711732
Ash
Bishop
Call
David
...Walter
Fuck this movie.
>>79711732
I don't like how they're trying to humanize the crew when we already know they're all going to die.
>>79714424
She looked far better in Fantastic Beasts
>James Franco
Lost interest at lightning speed
>>79711774
I just want the xeno to rape and kill all these fuck wads, primarly the black characters first like a true sport.
That's about all, peace out.
>>79717936
You're telling me you all had a xenomorph party and Franco wasn't sucking cock, now I know you're lying.
>>79719865
If they don't need women, there's no reason to have people at all. Why not just carry a cargo of sperm and eggs and have androids inseminate and raise them, as well as build the colony? They wouldn't need bulky cryosleep tanks at all. Plenty of space could be saved in other areas too, like any facilities needed for people. There's no need for this movie at all, besides proliferation of gay propaganda.
>>79722564
That's the point, it's a nod to the audience because we know what's coming. Dramatic ironing.
>>79723326
>nod
>>79723355
It might be such an aggressive nod that the person nodding shatters their jaw on their collarbone on the way down and flings their own head into space on the way back up, but it's still a nod.
>>79721642
This is so Danny McBride it's scary.
>>79723688
what the fuck is going on with this post?
site framework fucks up and causes downtime and every jumps to conspiratard shit? maybe it is time to finally abandon ship. jk but really some of these niggers act like this has never happened before.
that aside, i just wanna see some xeno action.
>>79723949
come on man. this was a decent thread.
>this fucking spammer
>>79719559
Colony is about more than breeding, you need doctors, scientists, workers, specialists...
>>79718703
See: Tristan da Cunha
>>79711732
looks like there is so many characters, that i wont even remember most of their names before they are killed, just like in the thing 2011
>>79712973
Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina.
>>79718939
Ridley thought he was being clever by ripping off a load of his dead buddy Moebius' ideas with the engineers and their look and society.
He wasn't. He only succeeded in retroactively ruining one of the greatest scenes in sci-fi history.
>>79722659
>GRIDS Alien
1. Why does James Franco need to be in this movie, only to die immediately?
2. What kind of accent is Fassbender going for?
>>79719012
Quotas do not make sense on any project.
>>79718937
LGTB people seem too be around 1% not 10% and that includes bisexuals which aren't a problem.
I would elect not to invite gays along to my planet colonization mission.
But that's just me.
>>79724158
If you can justify a gay doctor just because he is a doctor then you can also justify a Down syndrome manual laborer.
Society need shit shovelers as much as doctors and since you are so equal opportunity minded why not just pack up to 30% of capacity with Potato people.
DUDE WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
IN SPAAAAAAAAAAACE
"HOW MANY ALIENS ARE ATTACKING US YOU SAID? 420??? LMAO BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZE IN SPAAAAAAAAAAACE"
The senile guy confirmed a studio whore, in which scenario franco is a good idea in that setting? Not to mention the pubic hair beard guy.
>>79718939
Actually the implications there are interesting: that evolution is all eventually heading towards a certain peak entity. We resemble them because our evolution has slowly narrowed down faults and perfections in species and they are just closer to the prime result of evolution - but just because they are way ahead of us doesn't make them flawless. It actually kind of makes prometheus's science working with god thing better now that I think about it. God is achieved through science - through evolution. Or at least that's what the engineers are trying to to do knowingly.
>Gays are 3% of total population
>Occupy 103% of film characters
Really makes you think
>>79725108
>>79724779
As long as he dies immediately I don't care what films Franco appears in. And he's the captain, right? So having the captain die straight away is a good way to shake everything up. It'll probably be a great excuse for all the characters doing all the retarded shit that they'll no doubt do in this film too.
>>79711732
>Alien: Covenant
is it a remake of the first Alien ?
>>79717493
It makes me long for beautifully arranged, wide-angle still shots that make a set piece for the actors to work within.
>>79711732
>interracial couples
>more men than women
Trash
Fuck ridley scott
>>79725609
Hollywood is literally run by Jewish faggots.
>>79712707
>Demian Bichir
>white
>>79725657
no shit
And James fucking Franco as the captain? What the fuck
>>79724947
10% is any gay
1% is "exclusive gay"
>FUCKING NIGGERS/JEWS/WOMEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Guys come on. They're all going to get brutally slaughtered. Might as well have variety.
Think of it as liberal, open minded lefties going on a space trip only to be caught off guard and fucked in the throat because they weren'txenophobicenough.
>>79712973
jesus
>>79712672
he's jewish
>>79722127
You will never have a Dwarf fortress autism game where you have to run a space colony.
>>79714177
>mfw David 8 is revealed to be behind 'Mother' in Alien, is later involved with Special Operations and sends Burke on his final mission, then even later frantiaclly sends "AWAITING ACKNOWLEDGEMENT" messages to Fury 161.
>>79723321
>There's no need for this movie at all, besides proliferation of gay propaganda.
Man, I just wanna see a bunch of screaming retards being ripped apart by a cool space monster.
>>79725396
Yes, it's another slasher flick set to bore us all to tears. Ridley the absolute hack strikes again.
>>79726339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2PdSzwjc-w
>>79723149
there is a set picture of engineer turning black anf dying
>>79718727
Maybe they both have specific jobs they are good at and are needed. Or one have a specific job and got to bring his partner along. I doubt just the people at the dinner are solely responsible for repopulation. They could also donate sperm.
>>79724679
What id the black goo comes into contach with HIV virus
>>79725757
how about you go fuck yourself
>>79726822
It is ridiculous to presume that there isn't a straight couple that could do their job just as well if not better.
And donate sperm? Fucking useless, what that is. In order for a population to expand you need wombs, you stupid faggot.
>>79713111
Where do you live, I want to fight you.
>>79722127
Rimworld
>>79727150
Well crap that looks promising, is it good?
>>79727130
Short hair on women is atrocious.
>>79724375
Hahaha spot on good sir!
>>79727240
Haven't played the last few releases, but it was still going strong last I played.
Some of the mods are a must, fair bit of bloat and unbalanced shit with some of the modpacks though.
Combat a shit, since tribals with bows can have better range than some guns. If you get good and rich invasions get ridiculously big.
>>79718769
Proof?
>>79727306
Well added to the wishlist.
>>79718665
If you actually watch the video you'd see that its a pretty huge ship. I think its reasonable to assume that theres some colonists on the ship.
>Colonization mission
>Bring two gay guys and only one black guy
>>79718574
>>79718628
>>79718665
>>79718703
>>79718727
>>79718762
>>79726822
THE SHIP AND CREW ARE GOING BACK TO EARTH YOU FUCKING LOW IQ IDIOTS.
THE COLONISTS ARE IN SLEEPER PODS, THOUSANDS OF THEM.
Repeat after me - the fags are crew not colonists.
How have you survived in life thus far being this dumb?
>>79712910
underrated
>>79711774
My theory is that scott knows hes about to die so he's committing franchise suicide on all his famous franchises while he still can
>>79727872
underrated chuckle
>>79714177
I'm going to enjoy thisI'm a bit disappointed to hear that those qt neomorphs die, though.
>>79723191
Also infuriated by this.
>>79726902
Magic
>>79721841
like my whole life
>>79721889
ya, i agree, but i guess theyre showing us the characters most so when the get ripped apart by xenomorffs its more intense. like a stephen king novel.
>>79722230
kev smith co-directing
>>79722318
franco can be fun
>>79722611
except a bug ridden chick
>>79711732
>Alien: Covenant brought to you by Digornio's(TM) and Red Lobster(TM)
>>79730087
Digornewts cheddarburster bay biscuits tie-ins incoming
>>79711834
how is releasing a deleted scene from the movie before it comes out in anyway an ARG marketing scam? Did you eat paint chips as a kid?
>>79711732
I am sick to death of homages to The Last Supper.
>>79725949
what the fuck happened to his ear? I don't remember him doing anything but talking to ripley in 3
>>79714363
the "colonists" arethousands of human embryos stored on the ship
the gay guys are just part of the crew
>>79723191
This pisses me 1000x more then "OMG, there a gay couple who will die horribly"
>>79711732
>Directed by Luke Scott
pfffffffffffffffft
>>79726274
This. It's the fucking future, shit can be hand-waived anyways cause of their technology being better than ours. Aesthetics take precedence over hard science anyways, they have artificial gravity and differing computer systems between movies. It's like watching Star Wars and wondering about how the empire's tax system, that's how you get shit like episode 1.
>>79727061
What about lesbians? And how is using gay sperm on a female womb an issue? The baby won't come out gay. I hate SJWs more than /pol/ for fucking up the left but come the fuck on, it's just gays. On a slasher movie set in space, where there's xenos that are all over the place in terms of design and life cycle. You got to stop thinking about dick you faggot and start thinking about the story. You're missing the forest for the dicks.