Oscar-Nominated Screenwriters Share Worst Studio Notes

Kenneth Lonergan (“Manchester by the Sea”)
>“I’m trying to think of a really bad note that I’ve gotten, but for the past 20 years when executives give me notes I go into a kind of self-induced hypnotic trance in which I just nod and say… ‘Oh that’s interesting.’ I pitched a comedy once and someone said, ‘Where’s the fun?’ I said I didn’t know.”

Taylor Sheridan (“Hell or High Water”)
>“I’m with [Lonergan]. When I start getting notes, it just starts to sound like the teacher from the Peanuts cartoon. I was in a meeting, I wrote this pilot for AMC, and we’re all sitting there and they’re giving me all their notes and I’m listening and at one point I say, ‘What the f— are you people talking about?”

Todd Black (producer of “Fences”)
>“We made a Western called ‘The Magnificent Seven’ [with Sony Pictures]. And the biggest note in development and shooting it was, ‘Do they have to wear cowboy hats and have facial hair?’ And I said, ‘Do you not want them not to have horses either?’ That was a huge note on a daily basis.”

What

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Allison Schroeder (“Hidden Figures”)
>“I was really excited, I was pitching this thriller with two female leads, about espionage. [The executive] said, ‘Oh! We love it! It’s great. Can you either change it to incest or two men? I said, ‘If you’ll really hire me? Yes.'”

>Can you either change it to incest or two men?
>incest or two men?
>or two men?

Degenerate hollywood

>>79709935

http://www.thewrap.com/oscar-screenwriter-worst-studio-notes-white-people/

>>79709905
I have to admit..the drum solo really dragged on at the end of Whiplash.

>>79709905
>Can you either change it to incest or two men?
Why did this make me laugh?

>>79709936
Hollywood Execs are just millionaire cokeheads looking to expand investment, they know nothing about movies and they never have. The people wrestling the frustration of sweet-talking executives nowadays are in the same situations Orson Welles and Sam Peckinpah were in before.

I am honestly surprised more Directors who care more about the art than the money haven't just gone into independent, lower budget or crowd-fund base film making.

>>79710001
Fuck off you shitty bassist. Nobody can hear you and nobody wants to.

>>79710787
Because it sounds like a made up one added by /pol/. Except it's genuine. Fucking Hollywood, this article shows exactly what's wrong with it. If it's not completely out of touch assholes missing the whole point, then it's someone trying to push an agenda.

>>79710859
Not who you're replying to but I've always enjoyed playing bass for that very reason. Most people can't even hear it, they really can't. Yet if you take it away, they know something is missing. They have no idea what that is, but they can just feel the emptiness without the bass.

That gives me a lot of room to experiment on how to fill that emptiness for them. That's how I think of it when I'm writing bass lines... How do I fill that emptiness for the listener? It's just such a subtle, yet necessary, part of the music.

I usually sing or play guitar but I love bass for the reasons I just described. I step in and play bass for people any chance I get.

>>79710856
>I am honestly surprised
Anon do you have a fucking job and personal responsibilities? Because that statement is fucking dumb.

>>79711043
bit of a difference between an average joe and a millionaire director

>>79710870
I think it's more because Hollywood doesn't really want to risk having two female leads in a movie. "Can I make a spy thriller with two women in the lead role?" "Hmm I dunno maybe make one with two men."

The incest thing is weird though.

>>79709905

Obligatory

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/556565-ten-crazy-learned-guillermo-del-toros-mimic-directors-cut-audio-commentary

>Tests! The mimics used to have antennas, but the feedback we got from the studio was a raging phone call where they said, “They look like bugs. The mimics look like bugs.”

>I said, “But of course, we’ve been developing the creatures for a year-and-a-half, you’ve seen the designs, you’ve seen the maquettes, you’ve seen the clay molds, you’ve seen everything and they are bugs.”

>“Well can you make them more like aliens?”

>I said, “I don’t want to make them more like aliens. At this stage we already have functioning puppets with radio-controlled servos, animatronics. What do you mean redesign them?”

>And somebody said a really great line, they said, “Can you make their teeth bigger?”

>I said, “They don’t have teeth.”

>“Well show more of their gums.”

>I said, “They don’t have gums! They have a multi-part, mouth system!”

>“Well can you give them crazy hair?”

>“They don’t have hair, they are insects.”

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>>79709907
>‘Where’s the fun?’ I said I didn’t know.”

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>>79709907
>Where's the fun?

>>79710921
Pottery

>>79709905
Sources on these, please?

>>79711127
I forget all the bullshit he got during Hellboy, but I remember reading some crazy shit as it came out.

>>79709905
>The executive said, ‘There is no wife. Continue.'”
Based exec

GIANT

MECHANICAL

SPIDER

>>79709905
i think they were being sarcastic

>>79709905
>Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick (“Deadpool”)
>Oscar-Nominated

So... They were actually nominated but got BLACKED by some nigger movie from Best Adapted Screenplay this year? top kek

Film execs are retarded. Remember when that sony dude wanted a Spider man vs amazing spiderman movie and that it would make billions?

>>79709905
>Can you either change it to incest or two men?
Why not both?

>>79711579

It would have been better than Amazing Spiderman 2 I tell you that.

>>79711086
>The incest thing is weird though
why?

>>79711579
sounds like a good idea desu

>>79711594
That's what Supernatural is for.

>>79711786
It's just a really out of the blue suggestion, s'all.

I guess executives realized the money they could make from the GoT loving normie audience. It really helped normalize incest storylines with the general public.

>>79711487
Spy and his wife's son would have tested better.

>>79711840
GoT, Supernatural and Frozen

incest (or hints of incest) sells

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>>79711786
>>79711840
Frozen, if anything, has contributed immensely towards normalizing lesbian incest.

Disney does the darnest things I tell you.

>>79711838
>>79711594
Fuck. You beat me to it. I was gonna stary singing Carry On My Wayward son.

I dated a Wincest fangirl. Thankfully I don't have a brother.

Does Allison Schroeder write anything that's not about women?

>Damien Chazelle (“La La Land”)
“It was on ‘Whiplash,’ it ends with a kind of long drum solo, which was the whole point of making the movie. And the note was to get rid of all that. The note was written out — ‘He’s good at drumming. We get it.'”

Hes right tho.

>>79711887
I guarantee that children and adults that watch Frozen don't see incest subtext. That's just an internet neckbeard thing.

GoT has actual, explicit incest happening in the show.

>>79711928
I thought the last drum solo was overly long.

>>79711924
>Thankfully I don't have a brother.
kek

>>79711603
An extended 142 minute version of the dancing scene from Spiderman 3 would have been a better Spiderman movie than Amazing Spiderman 2. You're really not setting the bar too high.

>>79711947
You're wrong. Even my mom commented on it when she watched it and she never notice things like that.

>>79711947
The adult hbtq fanbase sure does. They have contributed to elevating the movie to meme-status.

>>79711928
Wrong. It wasn't long enough.

>>79712001
Yeah I guess that's true. Frozen is basically Supernatural for men, both fandoms ascended to meme status with the incest thing.

>>79711127
the average post on clientsfromhell, hollywood style

>>79712032

Was quite his tempo

>>79709907
Of course Sheridan just repeated what Lonergan said. Fucking talentless bumfuck.

>>79709905
>Can you either change it to incest or two men?
They know what they're talking about. I'd watch an incest lesbian spy flick

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>>79709907
>Todd Black (producer of “Fences”)
>>“We made a Western called ‘The Magnificent Seven’ [with Sony Pictures]. And the biggest note in development and shooting it was, ‘Do they have to wear cowboy hats and have facial hair?’ And I said, ‘Do you not want them not to have horses either?’ That was a huge note on a daily basis.”
Never knew Sony were that retarded.

>>79710856
>I am honestly surprised more Directors who care more about the art than the money haven't just gone into independent

They have.

>>79713130
You haven't seen the leaked emails and powerpoints, have you?

>>79712946
DEBS 2 with Lucy and Amy's twin daughters?

>>79713130
I'm not shocked by anything Sony execs say or do anymore. They're simply the worst.

>>79710001
The ending felt a little rushed desu

Sam Raimi (Evil Dead)
>"It was on Spider-Man, It ends with a kind of lynching scene, which was kind of the point of the movie. And the note was to get rid of all that. The note was written out — ‘He’s good at genocide. We get it.'”

>>79709905
Yeah executives usually exists to run the company into the ground. They get fired before they manage it though.

It is funny that only Scott Rudin and the Weinsteins understand what they are doing, everyone else seems to be an idiot.

>>79713736
Cute.

>Before Tim Burton was brought in to helm Superman Lives, hairdresser-turned-film producer, Jon Peters, was overseeing the Superman reboot. In 1997, Peters hired relative newcomer Kevin Smith (Clerks) to pen the script. Before Smith even put pen to paper Peters made some unusual demands, like having Superman fight a giant spider-like creature he dubbed "Thanagarian Snare Beast."

>That odd demand, along with others, were hilariously recounted by Kevin Smith for his 2002 DVD "An Evening With Kevin Smith." The story is being dredged up once again for the upcoming documentary The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened? and it includes Peters defending his giant spider idea.

>"This was all out of my mind," Peters recalled to Jon Schnepp. >"Thanagarian Snare Beast, I stole it from Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea. This giant squid that tries to swallow up this submarine. So Superman would fight every tentacle—getting closer and closer to this beak—until he killed it. It would've made an amazing sequence! Amazing!"

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>>79713657
kek i just realised that their "Tentpole" Dark Tower film based on King's Quasi western isnt wearing a cowboy hat or using a horse/mule from the trailer i saw.

>>79713818
Why can't they ever admit their ideas are retarded?

Like that executive who wanted Back to the Future to be called something like the Spaceman from Pluto.

>>79709905
>>“So, where are the white people?”
>[Note: Heisserer jumped in and said, “In the audience.” He got a big laugh.]
this sounds like a press junket anecdote instead of a thing that actually happened (what kind of movie executive in 2016 would ask "where are the white people?")

>>79713818
>Jon Peters when he was raping that intern
>CALL IT THE THANGARIAN SNARE BEAST

>>79714050
>what kind of movie executive in 2016 would ask "where are the white people?"

One who wants to make money.

>>79713870
>>79713870
Haha, holy shit. Good find.

>>79709905
>Note: Heisserer jumped in and said, “In the audience.” He got a big laugh.

that's pretty hilarious desu

>>79713870
Producer A: What if Roland is black?
Everyone else: Eh, I guess.
Producer B: What if he doesn't have a hat?
Everyone else: *head explode from brilliance just witnessed*

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>>79713573

>>79714542
Did they just put random words into that shit? What does any of that have to do with Spider-Man?

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>>79709907
>>"Where's the fun?" I said "I didn't know"

>>79711071
There are actually several million differences.

>>79709907
>Kenneth Lonergan (“Manchester by the Sea”)
>“I’m trying to think of a really bad note that I’ve gotten, but for the past 20 years when executives give me notes I go into a kind of self-induced hypnotic trance in which I just nod and say… ‘Oh that’s interesting.’ I pitched a comedy once and someone said, ‘Where’s the fun?’ I said I didn’t know.”

I bet that was The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle

>>79713870

Western films does bad in box office recently, so It won't be strange that they really did that with The Dark Tower Film, just to get rid of any vibe of cowboy/western topics.

Retarded as hell, but those people only think with their wallets and their dicks.

>>79715420
>Western films does bad in box office recently
thats because they overblow their budgets and need to focus on less gimicky shit like the cgi fests they have

>>79713870
That and they made Roland black.

Yeah yeah. Horn of Eld. Sequel to the series.
Doesn't mean this'll work.

And they want to make a tv series of this? Kek

>>79714542
what?

>>79714756
>>79715781
Basically they're brainstorming how many products they can advertise within the movie. No joke, it's an actual genuine internal Sony document.

>>79710921
How has no one told you to fuck off back to blogspot yet

>>79712040
I don't think I've ever seen a male who actually gave a shit about Frozen, even the ones who see incest in that one are chicks

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>“The lesson to be learned is that you really can’t take on an enterprise of this size and scope if you don’t really have a movie like The Terminator or Jaws behind you. When Steven Spielberg comes in and says, ‘I made Jaws, the biggest grossing film of all time and I want $18 million to do Close Encounters,’ which is probably the equivalent to what we spent, it’s very nice to be able to say ‘This is the guy who directed the biggest grossing film of all time. Sit down and shut up, and feel lucky that you’ve got him.”

>“It’s another thing when everybody’s wringing their handkerchiefs and sweating and puking blood because of the money that’s being spent and you’re going ‘Trust me, this is what I really believe in’ and they turn around and say ‘Well, who the fuck are you, who cares what you believe in?’”

>“They look at these movies like a franchise. There are people, who shall remain nameless, that I was bumping into as I was trying to put this thing together. who were putting the experience into a really interesting kind of perspective. They were saying ‘Look, you could have somebody piss against the wall for two hours and call it Alien 3 and it’s going to do $30 million worth of business, you can’t keep people away. They’re going to go the first night to see what it is.’”

>>79717033
>‘Look, you could have somebody piss against the wall for two hours and call it Alien 3 and it’s going to do $30 million worth of business, you can’t keep people away. They’re going to go the first night to see what it is.’”
I'm surprised that Hollywood doesn't do this more honestly. Films like Gladiator or Fight Club, where they own the brand but can't reasonably make a sequel; you think it'd be stupidly profitable to literally shit out an amature film
Like the sequels to Jarhead for example

>>79716899
You're kidding, right? Most of the Frozen incest porn you see on /aco/ or whatever is made by guys.

Of course there are chicks that are into that pairing, but most of them just write fanfiction or draw the more cute /u/-tier fanart. The ones with Elsa getting fucked by a tentacle monster while fisting Anna are definitely made by guys, for guys that are into the pairing.

>>79710856
>are in the same situations Orson Welles and Sam Peckinpah were in before.

>MWAAAAhhhgh the gay maleincestspies

>>79716642
>implying no other studio has product placement
And sony classic pictures make good movies, what is the point of shitting on sony again?

>>79717033
Who cares what you believe in? It's their millions, how many movies flop? Plenty.

>>79711579
>Remember when that sony dude wanted a Spider man vs amazing spiderman movie and that it would make billions?
His reasoning was that "two spider men means two times the money"

>>79711947
Let it Go is about Elsa coming out of the closet

there's only one other female lead in the movie

>>79710001
It wasn't quite my tempo desu senpai