So Dennis Villeneuve is basically Chris Nolan for adults?

Why do we hate Nolan again

>>79693292
He thinks he's one of the smartest classy filmmakers but he's really one of the dumbest.

>>79693335
how's he dumb tho

his movies are pretty compelling

>>79693367
See: The Dark Knight Rises, Inception, The Dark Knight, Following, Memento, and Interstellar

>>79693426
everything on that list but TDKR are good tho

except following, i haven't seen that

>>79693292

OP here I don't hate nolan, but his movies seemed way more impressive when I was a teen. He's sloppy and sensationalist. Villeneuve's films have simialr imagery and themes but are precise and subtle

>>79693292
Because he's popular.

>>79693426
Inception, TDK and Memento are all good movies.

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>>79693367
>his movies are pretty compelling
No they're not, it's literally "things happening."
He's a sloppy fucking filmmaker too, known for never doing a second take if he can help it, and it shows.
A good example is Dark knight rises, and not even the plane scene, there is a scene where they get together and come up with a plan and everyone leaves to go do exactly what they said, and in the very next fucking scene those same characters are asking where the people they just talked to, and just explained in detail where they would be, are.
Hes made some good movies in the past, but he's gotten fucking LAZY.
And his douchebag fanbase just helps to cement his hack status.

>>79693426

fuck you, memento is great

I do agree that his technical skill fails to entirely mask his weird detach from humanity

>>79693292
His movies look good and are loaded with symbolism, but his dialogue sucks and for all the good actors he hires, they sure do give of mediocre performances when they're in his movies.

>>79693266
this was a revenge wank fantasy, more women died in nolan's batman than in this trash.

>>79693540
>the dark knight is a good movie

*tips fedora in anarchistic manner&

>>79693479
>>79693540
But I said they're dumb tho...
I'm confused.

>>79693292
He breaks the cardinal rule of filmmaking with every one of his movies - "show, don't tell". His films are nauseating in their exposition. He's not intelligent to enough to communicate his ideas in a visual format; he needs Michael Cane to jump in every 10 minutes to let you know where the movie is going. As well as being a horrible visual storyteller, Nolan is also arrogant. He'll often do very few takes form scene to scene which can lead to very stilted acting and nonsensical storytelling - with a very infamous example. Nolan thinks he can save everything in editing. He's wrong. His approach to humanity, motives and emotion is also severely lacking. Everyone of his protagonists has a dead wife. That's how limited and narrow minded Nolan is in his understanding and concepts of character motivations.

>>79693570
that makes it real, dumbass. you think people didn't slip and slide when they tried to take over egypt or syria??

>>79693292
his movies are almost always bloated

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>>79693266
>So Dennis Villeneuve is basically Chris Nolan for patricians?
ftfy

>>79693292
cause he can't direct a film to save his life, is a pretentious fuck in interviews, and has an army of enlightened fedoras preaching that he's the second coming of kubrick
pic very much related

le 1 word film title man

>>79693292
I like his stuff. Usually it looks pretty enough and the stories are interesting enough but most of the characters come off as distant and cold and a little inhuman. Humor and dialogue are his biggest weaknesses in my opinion.

>>79693292
i don't know I just do because everyone else here does and because reddit likes him

>>79693696
/threaded to infinity

>>79693696
>"show, don't tell"
that's a rule of literature, dumb fuck

>>79693704
>real dumbass
You said it.

>>79693696
just copied this into r/film

>>79693540
tips meme hat

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>>79693813
(you)

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>>79693813
>>"show, don't tell"
>that's a rule of literature
>a medium wherein it's impossible to show anything outside without telling since it's all words on a page and not a visual medium

>>79693868
>visual medium
>relying on exposition
You're a special kind of retarded.

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>>79693813
>show
>dont tell
>In literature
>a format composed entirely of words with no visuals

>>79693868
are you serious? it was hemingway who fucking invented it.

fucking knew /tv/ was full of illiterates

another example: >>79693830

>>79693266
So Chris Nolan is considered bad because he's palpable to general audiences?

>>79693696
nice post

>>79693899
>what is iceberg theory

illiterates out

>>79693920
If you didn't read anything in the thread then sure.

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>>79693890
>anon B is obviously referring to anon A's retarded idea that you can somehow "show" and not "tell" in LITERATURE, as in BOOKS, and how its literally impossible because its not a visual medium, and literature inherently relies on exposition due to its format
>anon C/anon A somehow conflates "literature relying on exposition because its not visual" to "visual mediums require exposition to work
You're a special kind of retarded

both prisoners and arrival have decent cinematography and characters and then half way through the plot becomes ridiculous

>>79693813
jesus christ. please be joking.

>>79693963
>>79693916

>implying even 10% of writers can effectively pull of iceberg theory
>implying it isnt just an excuse to be a fucking lazy shit

most of his stories are well made melodrama reminding me a bit of Disconnect by Henry Alex Rubin

>>79693266
No, because Villeneuve can direct Action, Nolan don't.

Nolan always commits the same sin, he leaves no room for nuance, ambiguity or discussion, his movies are the equivalent of making a Gordian Knot, showing how to undo it and then cutting it because he thinks he's THAT smart, when in reality his flicks are filled with exposition at every corner, he does nothing new with anything and explains everything in the most condescending way possible as he solves the plot.

>>79693968
I did. The only criticism I agreed with is that he breaks the cardinal rule of movies with show don't tell. The rest is "He sucks because I think he sucks".

>>79693975
Go to bed Chris.

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>>79694005
One shan't be communicating with illiterates henceforth.

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>>79693813
>>79693916
>>79693890
>>79693963
>medium is literally nothing but words
>showing requires explicit visuals
>the medium of literature literally cannot contain a "show, dont tell" style because you need to exposit what is happening in order for the reader to interpret the events depicted, no matter how simple or complex a sentence
>implying iceberg theory is somehow visual
>there exists people this stupid on Planet Earth

>>79693696
>too much exposition
>people on /tv/ still don't get Interstellar

Really makes you think

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>>79694065
>illiterates
>literally autistically screeching about visuals being possible in an exclusively word contented format
>complaining about people being unable to read
>visuals
>reading words
>visuals
>reading words
>faggot is self destructing in a fit of pure autistic rage and he doesnt even realize he's playing himself in the process

>>79694078
>can't do 'show don't tell' in a written passage
>can only do it in film
>conveniently 'forgot' that every film is essentially a screenplay

dunce

>>79694052
So you didn't read the thread. Plenty of complaints about his sloppy film making, him not being an actor's director, hamfisted emotional manipulation, shallow characters, over reliance on action set pieces to distract audiences from plot convenience layered on plot convenience.
But if you actually read the thread you'd know that you IMDB refugee.

>>79694061
>Chris
who

>>79694119
I also responded to your post with this: >>79694122

>>79694145
lurk moar newfriend

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>>79694122
>theres no difference between written script and filmed movies

>>79694122
>>conveniently 'forgot' that every film is essentially a screenplay
Yeah, my friends are such idiots waiting for the blurays to come out. I'm like "dude, the screenplay's been out for ages you pleb" since they're literally the EXACT FUCKING SAME THING
for that matter, why do we even bother filming them? rowling had the right idea with the cursed child

>>79693696
you're really good at finding stupid shit to complain about that doesn't really add up to being flaws

>>79694122
Films aren't screenplays anon. They're films. Thats why we have two different words for them: film and screenplay.

>>79693266
I love how people are starting to latch onto Denis just to shit talk Nolan and his fanbase. I guarantee that in 10 years once Blade Runner 2049 and Dune masterpieces are done he's going to be jerked relentlessly here and on reddit. Not talking to you OP, but it's been happening a bunch because of herd mentality.

>>79694152
Do you genuinely have autism? Like, honest question, not even memeing here.

>>79694183
>>79694182
You're the idiots who think 'show don't tell' isn't a technique of the written word. Educate yourselves.

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>>79694122
1/10
made me reply

>>79694122
>A script expositing a scene is showing despite requiring a camera and actors in order to show the scene

How old are you?

>>79694199
If Denis starts churning out shit, I'll rightfully criticise him. Until then, he's a legit great director in the mainstream - a rarity

>>79694213
>>79694207
>>79694198
>>79694231

I already responded to your reply with: >>79694212

>/tv/ turns out to be ignorant about both movies and literature

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>>79694212
>written word describing something that happens is showing now
>this fucking idiot probably thinks Alfred's tangerine speech from the dark knight was showing too
End us

>>79694078
You don't know what the term means, just google it you fuck.

>>79694243
It's not a technique of the written word, are you fucking retarded?

>>79694252
Only the arses posting reaction faces to mask embarrassing themselves.

>>79694273
dont samefag

>>79694280
>>79694267
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Show,_don't_tell

>>79694243
Literally the fact that its "the written word" invalidates it as something shown and/or visual you complete fucking moron.

>>79694329
>The technique applies equally to nonfiction and all forms of fiction, literature including Haiku[1] and Imagism poetry in particular, speech, movie making, and playwriting.[2][3][4][5]
Literally embarrassed for you.

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>>79694315
>he's linking wikipedia now

>>79694315
>term coined by a playwright
>HURR DURR GUYS IT APPLIES TO AAAAAALLLLLL LITERATURE
kys retard

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>>79693632
>His movies look good and are loaded with symbolism, but his dialogue sucks and for all the good actors he hires, they sure do give of mediocre performances when they're in his movies.

>>79694358
>The Iceberg Theory (sometimes known as the "theory of omission") is a style of writing
Embarrassing.
Give it up.

>>79694315
>Show, don't tell is a technique often employed in various kinds of texts to enable the reader to experience the story through action, words, thoughts, senses, and feelings rather than through the author's exposition, summarization, and description.

Literally referring to actions, not words, you fucking moron. Authors can refer to the writers of scripts and screenplays which are turned into a visual medium, holy shit.

>>79694378
>developed from his background as a newspaper reporter.

>>79693266
Memento is still better than anything he has made

>>79694349
The term was created by a person who made plays you fucking idiot.
>>79694417
That just means they used their writing experience to direct the play holy shit how are you this violently autistic?

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>>79694315

>>79694417
And? He still coined it for writing plays you imbecile, also journalistic writing is NOT literary.

>>79694392
>referring to actions
what verbs?

You are a complete stubborn spastic if you think this doesn't apply to books

>but /tv/ told me films were the greatest art form!!! they speshal just like muh vidya

https://youtu.be/-cEBguJj3dg

Is this Youtubekino?

>>79694417
>newspaper reporter
>showing but not telling

he must have been terrible at his job

>look at this picture and guess what happened, I am not going to tell it

>>79694447
I didn't say it doesn't apply to films.
>>79694439
and short stories
>>79694457
he coined it for all writing

>>79694459
>gets BTFO repeatedly
>realises he's been BTFO
>realises his own wikipedia link contradicts him
>"b-but I'm smart!"

>>79694459
Im not speaking from the perspective of a fanboy on an imageboard, im speaking from the perspective of a comic book artist.

>>79694494
>he doesn't know how to tell a story without stating everything explicitly
>he doesn't know that good writers CAN do this

sad

>>79694193
Nah, I think you're just a retard. The number one rule of filmmaking is being able to tell a story visually. Nolan is shit at it. When a director can do visual communication well it shows that there's attention and detail to developing a story in an interesting way. Nolan cops out and uses exposition over and over again like his characters are giving the audience a lecture. It becomes even more apparent when he has Michael Caine do it in each film.

Great visual storytelling is one of the most satisfying elements of the medium:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk3WSsRoHgQ

Watch from 6 minutes onwards. Without saying a word, the scene with the lighter and the shaky hands informs us of something extremely important to the film: Michael is not normal. That's what filmmaking is supposed to be.

>>79694537
His job is to report the news dumbfuck. I dont want ambiguity and storytelling in my NEWS, thats how you get shit like the current media.

>>79694495
>[CITATION NEEDED]
Chekhov only wrote about writing FICTION, not ALL sorts of writing, and even then he wrote about THEATRE you moron.

>>79694537
>be a reporter
>your job is to report stuff that happened
>I am going to report without stating things in a clear way but letting people guess

yeah, nah

>>79694495
These people you're replying to are baiters or literal retards so you can safely stop replying.

But why Villeneuve and not PTA?

>>79694592
You're ignorant.
It's not anything to do with being cryptic. It's about making it compelling to the reader. And it applies to all texts.

>>79694598
>If I reply to someone I agree with myself circlejerking I win!
Why do newfags do this?

>>79694598
I want to know why they're so insecure about visual media.

No hes fincher for teenagers that think they've moved above imdbdora
>>79693292
Because hes mann for teenagers

>>79694630
No, fuck you, i dont want you to pitch the story to me, its the fucking news, tell me what happened and dont do anything else because at a certain point bias will seep in and corrupt your words.

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>>79694495
>I didn't say it doesn't apply to films.
You're entire argument was that its a literary term, and you were scoffing at someone for using Nolans inability to "show, don't tell" as an illegitimate criticism BECAUSE it's a literary term.
Then you post a fucking link that you think proves this, but your stupid faggot ass didn't read past the first sentence. You got BTFO. Stop backpedaling, just leave. Next time you want to shitpost I suggest you bring your A-game, because whatever the fuck "this" is, is weaksauce m8. Fucking weaksauce.

>>79694495
>>79694598
>>79694662
>unique poster counter remains static

Really eh...

Makes you uh...

Think.

>>79694625

PTA doesn't make genre films.

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>>79694495
>I didn't say it doesn't apply to films.
>>79693813
>>"show, don't tell"
>that's a rule of literature, dumb fuck

>>79694761
I really want to watch PTA's Predator now.

>>79694708
You get that from all media channels. But telling the news and writing reports are different things, both of which newspapers and broadcasters do.

>>79694726
>>79694779
Well it is a rule of literature and it revealed /tv/ horrendous ignorance about literature

>>79694790
You're confusing reporting with editorials.

>>79694708
Yes and no anon, you need to state things as they are but you also need to keep your writing stylistically fresh, it's how you distance yourself (and your work) from Reuters or the source of the information.

>>79694818
Not just editorials but features and special reports too

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>>79694814
>gets BTFO
>b-but I was kind of right...
This is your last (you).

>>79694814
It is a rule coined by a playwright when discussing fiction, not all literature is fiction.
Just stop posting.

>>79693266
yes

>>79694870
Well it is well documented in nonfiction.

None of this takes away from its influence in film.

But it was good to understand /tv/'s level of insecurity

>that concept exists in other media!! oh no i thought we were speshul

>>79694726
I think you missed the point. There were 2 people saying that "show, don't tell" only applies to film and not literature
>>79694267
>>79694280
which is just retarded. I think you're confusing shit

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@embrrasing samefag
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

>>79694914
>>79694914
>it is well documented in non fiction
[Citation needed]

>people still replying to this fucking idiot

You've killed the thread lads.

Even in plays it refers to dialogue which is text and therefore lit.

it doesn't mean show by action rather than saying it.

What kind of fucking retarded concept would that be? akin to advising you to saying 'i drink a glass of water' instead of just drinking a glass of water.

jesus, /tv/ you're dumb

Nolan is a very good director.

That said, I dont like the way he edits his films.

They are almost always in a binary limbo where it's either scenes of exposition or scenes with heavy forward momentum.

And his style is, as the only way I describe it, very montage'y. Majority of spoken dialoge and music crossfades over scene changes and you get no good footing in a scene since you're in and out of there within 30 seconds while the same piece of music have been playing for 5 minutes over 4 scenes.

You rarely have time to absorb anything or given much of a break from the brakeneck speed Nolan rushes through scene changes.

In a almost 3 hour movie like Dark Knight Returns, you're just numb by the end of it, due to a 1 hour long third act.

>>79694971
Wells (1999). How To Write Non-Fiction Books. Writers' Bookshop. p. 65. ISBN 1902713028.
Jump up ^

>>79695036
>(1999)

>>79695060
yes sweetie? :)xx

>>79693266
Villeneuve is a hybrid of Nolan and Fincher.

>>79693813
I don't think bait gets any more obvious than this. and yet look at all these (You)s

>>79693813
I don't see why this has gotten so many negative replies, are you all baiting? He's right. It's taught to show rather than tell in the way you write a novel or story, using language.

>>79695101

fuck

>>79695093
Fuck off retard, from Chekhov taken out of context to some shit book written in 1999? Is that well documented?
Kill yourself, I mean it.

>>79695121
>>79695118
/tv/ vs /lit/ war when

>>79695151
it's about economy of language not directing actor's movement on a stage lol

>>79695201
It's about avoiding unnecessary descriptions and exposition through actions rather than dialogue, that's what Chekhov coined it for.

>>79693813
Maybe in children's books, you fucking mong

>>79695231
>avoiding unnecessary descriptions and exposition
You do this mainly through conversation

>>79695121
>I don't see why this has gotten so many negative replies
because this:
>It's taught to show rather than tell in the way you write a novel or story
obviously applies to both film and literature, not one or the other

>>79694193

I bet you're a fan of the Transformers movies

>>79695292
No, you do it through actions described, not dialogue.

>>79695259
>to be shown something means you have to physically see it
Actual kindergarten interpretation. This is what we're dealing with. This is the level that /tv/ discusses films.

>>79693335
isn't that JJ ?

>>79695342
>described
Optimum word. Thanks

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>>79695342
>described
Was your mom the Undertaker?

>>79695380
Yes, you describe actions in a play, you don't doodle that shit.

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>>79695346
>to be shown something you have to see it
>NO NO NO NO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>79695439
>describe actions
So you're not seeing, you're telling.

>since Nolan happened to released his flicks when I was a teenager and Denis is now making his while I'm a mature adult that means the latter is the better filmmaker

this is literally your logic

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Both Nolan and Villenuve lack creativity, and no sense of humour, they can follow cinema rules 100% and they will never surprise you.
They also can't create characters with much charisma, they should learn from Carpnter or Cohen brothers on how to make characters memorable

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>>79695578
>They also can't create characters with much charisma
u wot m8

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>>79695687
What can you say about him other than "strong and silent", "badass operator"?
He's still a generic character, can you remember one dialogue said by him?

>>79695497
Playwriting and literary writing are radically different formats with different purposes, playwriting consists of mostly dialogue and brief descriptions of setting and places for this dialogue, literary writing doesn't share these restrictions. You're taking Chekhov's word out of context.

>>79693266
Here me out. Denis>Nolan. But not by a large margin. Just make Nolan stay away from his own thick head and his own scripts and he's actually pretty decent. It wasn't until he started making his big blockbusters hat he purposely decided to dumb down his films just so it could appeal to a wider audience. Dunkirk will be a test to see if he is actually capable of being more than just a decent director.

>>79695789

>You should move to a small town where the rule of law still exists. You are not a wolf, and this is a land of wolves now.

But that means nothing, a good character isn't quotable dialogue.

>>79695789
Your asking how a watch works, for now let's just focus on the time.
He has like 9 lines of dialogue and they're all great. It's a really good example of how one would show, and not tell.

>>79693266
no
Villeneuve is film for people who suspect their brains are slightly too large

>>79695578
this guy is correct

>>79693266
>emily blunt will NEVER step on your balls
just die in my sleep already
( ._.) ( ;_;)

>>79693266
Villeneuve is an extremely mediocre filmmaker. The same can't be said about Nolan.

>>79694421
At this point I have doubts, Memento is Nolan film. I'm almost convinced that Nolan shot some convoluted shit that autist tried to salvage by insanely good cutting. Nolan probably just sit there watched the finished product puzzled how something like this can be done.

>>79695578
Nolan thinks he's above the basic rules. It's one of the reasons he's a middling director. He has a terrible arrogance or laziness when it comes to shooting. He only does a couple takes per scene and it often shows. TDKR is his laziest film to date. Some of the scenes, performances and editing in that movie are horrific.

>>79695988
It was a novel gimmick.

>>79695687
>>79695687
Yep--case in point--Villenuefedora's characters are shit. Thanks for the example.

>>79695881
>>79695881
Dialogue is pretty important to characterization, as it lets you know character motivations and desires, etc.--i.e., it tells you about the characters.

And that line is awful. It's like teenage philosophy level.
>land of wolves

lol

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>>79693266
Why did she wet herself?

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>>79696048
>TDKR is his laziest film to date.
>opening shot of the film he forgets to yell "action"
>mosquito man doesn't realize the camera is rolling for a few seconds
>realizes whats happening and grabs the steering wheel to pretend like he's driving
>CUT, PERFECT, THAT'S A WRAP

>>79695979

Lol no he's not. He's an extremely solid filmmaker who doesn't rely on flashy, attention grabbing gimmicks.

>>79695844
Dunkirk is going to have the some of the problems that TDKR had. Nolan's laziness becomes all to apparent when he's working in large scale areas with lots of actors. His editing can be terrible at times. Expect lots of webms posted here of Dunkirk extras doing funny stuff in the background. He couldn't even put a 30 second trailer together for Dunkirk without an extra doing something distractingly stupid. You can bet he only filmed that scene two or three times.

>>79696095
Meme buzzword hipster, fedora reddit cuck boogeymen.

>>79696149

I said quotable bits of dialogue don't matter.

And that line you said is horrible is actually all about characterisation. If you've seen the movie and don't know that, you're incredibly dumb. If you haven't, lol why am I arguing with you.

Do you faggots know only 5 directors total?

You just keep on spouting nonsensical corellations between directors who can't be more different in their approach and execution in filmmaking.

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lmao denis memeleevue makes the same movie every year.

he'll never make anything that can even compare to Inception, yet alone the opening scene of TDK.

>>79694378
He's written plays, but calling Hemmingway a playwright is proof you've read his wikipedia and came out thinking you're winning.

The guy sounds like an autist, but you people should definitely read more books if you think "Show, don't tell" can't work on written media.

Just compare To the Lighthouse and The Idiot so you can see how exposition works on non-Star Wars EU novels.

>>79696054
Every normal person gets better when practicing something. Even if you lucked your first time and punched way above your weight inevitably there is a moment when you will produce something better. He have not. Gimmick or not it is more consistent and well constructed than everything he produced afterwords. Sure some will argue The Prestige was not bad but the 3rd act was shitstorm, hell most of his movies are like this. Every moment you progress the movie got worse and worse. It even have gradation - The Prestige had bad third act, Inception was worse but Interstellar was hilariously bad. Film student will not make something that dumb.

My suspiration is Memento was more conventional movie - still it lacked the normal movie structure but it was far from what is shown in the cinema and the whole thing was doing of someone else not Nolan. Gimmick or not he lacks the sophistication to create something that well as evident in his later works. Some can bring his cape shit but keep in mind this movies were more restricting because they had a clear goal and a story to tell, he don't have much creative freedom there. Especially in the first one that was 95% stock origin story. By the third one where he had more freedom, his movie was devolved by meme content, and still had a shitty third act, it was convoluted mess and had million plotholes.

>>79696306
>denis memeleevue makes the same movie every year.

And Nolan doesn’t?
He loves killing off female characters to motivate the main protagonists for some reason

Memento
>A man with amnesia is obsessed with finding the killer of his beautiful wife

Insomnia
>A detective plays a cat and mouse game with the killer of a beautiful young girl

The Prestige
>A magician engages in a bitter rivalry with a former friend he blames for the death of his beautiful young wife

The Dark Knight
>The lives of a masked vigilante and a district attorney are shattered when the woman they both love is killed

Inception
>A dream thief struggles with the crushing guilt of his wife’s suicide

Following
>features a beautiful dead girl as a final twist

>>79696193


I would say he's pretty aware of his critics. He might not care, but he might have to with a movie this big that isn't in space or 2DEEP4U or capeshit. He kind of took out the Dunkirk extra by adding some extra IMAX footage and he definitely changed Bane's voice prior to the release of TDKR, albeit it was worse than what was initially put out. And I can't imagine the script riddled with plotholes since it will supposedly be a much more streamlined/simple film. We'll see what he does.

>>79693292
To piss you off

>>79695292
>>79695342
You both seem to be talking past each other and missing the point. You're supposed to "show not tell" through conversation AND action descriptions/direction. For example, if a character is mean, don't have a narrator or somebody say "that guy is mean" but instead show the character being mean, through THE CHARACTER'S words and actions. If you show a time when the character was mean, then the audience gets to form their own opinions and come to the conclusion on their own, and the impression is stronger and also more complex.

On the wikipedia page they talk about how you can do this with descriptions, too, in literature. Saying "The moon is shining" is telling. By describing details, like how the glint of the moon reflects off the water, you get closer to "showing."

"Show don't tell" has nothing to do with the ratio of action to dialogue, or the use of one over the other. It's about making things believable and interesting by giving details. It's about painting a picture of a subject rather than giving a summary of it. You give details and let the audience create their own summation.

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>>79695560
Yeah this. Either that or Nolan is a shitty fuckwit who hasn't directed anything of merit in a decade while Villeneuve is actually decent. If only there were posts in this very thread pointing things like that out...

>>79696152
>>opening shot of the film he forgets to yell "action"
>>mosquito man doesn't realize the camera is rolling for a few seconds
>>realizes whats happening and grabs the steering wheel to pretend like he's driving
Oh my god, I've watched this scene over 100 times at this point
HOW HAVE I NEVER NOTICED THIS?

>>79696306
>t. someone who's only seen Sicario

Villeneuve's filmography is actually remarkably diverse

Was Arrival good?

>>79693335
He started out really good. Now he always shoots for the dumbest audience possible so every movie is 98% exposition.

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>>79697101
The plane scene is the gift that keeps on giving.

>>79693266
VILLENEUVE IS THE NOLAN OF OUR GENERATION

>>79693292
EDGY TRYHARD REDDITORS HATE NOLAN

>>79697470
It's pretty good, have a few minor nitpicks that keep me from really liking it, but its worth a few bucks at the redbox.

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It's unbearably painful knowing that Nolan will never be respected for the avant-garde Chaplin-revivalist-comedian that he is

Here's a present for all you big guys out there, since I rarely see this posted anymore

>>79697962
Classic.

>>79693266
>standing this far apart from someone you're talking to

>>79698755
>commenting on a film you clearly never saw

>>79696152
lmao, that scene just keeps on giving