/who/ - Doctor Who General

Someone photoshop Beerus erasing Zamasu with Moffat and Gareth instead.

This destroyed Britain.[/spolier]

>>79679955
How did this bcome the most viewed episode?

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topic-based memento

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>tfw failed my driving license exam

Please cheer me up /who/...

>>79680187
I failed it twice before I got mine, senpai. Just git gud and try again.

>>79680187
Its hard to pass the first time.

>>79680103
Height of the Tennant era when Doc was super popular + Christmas Special

It's really that simple.

>>79680187
I understand your feeling, lad. But the absolute minority gets it on the first go. I got it on my third.

Practice more and do it again. Just remember that it's always your own nervousness and axiety that leads you to fuck up.
Be confident and calm and you'll be fine.

>>79680187
>Please cheer me up /who/...
The Doctor doesn't have his and he's a thousands of years old.

>>79680222
Well... thanks, wanderer.

>>79680258
It was the second... failed to anticipate a light going from green to orange, probably because of the stress.

>>79680285
You're right. Thanks, I need to be more confident, this really is becoming a problem.

>>79680293
Kek, are we sure about that? We know Three had it but not sure about 12. He was driving illegally in the Zygon Inversion, wasn't he?

test

>>79680187
They're designed to make you fail, better luck next time.

>>79680187
I failed mine first time because my sour instructor asked me to do a K-Turn.
Up until that point, I had literally only ever heard it referred to as a 3-point turn. My dumbass didn't have the sense to keep my mouth shut, and they do NOT like when you ask questions.
But don't beat yourself up about it, man. It's nothing even close to the end of the world, and everyone passes it in the end.

>>79679955

>tfw /who/ helped me a few months back when I was depressed
>now /who/ is helping an anon struggling with driving

Literally better than any of my 'real' friends.

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>>79667172
>57. Hypothesis:
>Gary Russell isn't such a bovine author when you think about it. Although criticised for unsophisticated writing, one needs to consider the cleverness of his titles.
>DIVIDED LOYALTIES: while one of the best-selling books, and loved by some, it's also loathed by many in fandom. It has, literally, divided loyalties.
>PLACEBO EFFECT: the books is sequelitis tosh, yet, despite being such an underwhelming story gave everyone their Eighth Doctor "fix" for the month, in the same way that the act of receiving medicine for a patient is treatment in itself. Quite literally, it produced a placebo effect.
>BUSINESS UNUSUAL: presented as a book with strange things happening, yet a very average, run of the mill story. Quite the ironic title, as it's business as usual for Gary.
>Do you agree, and what do you think the subtle joke regarding INSTRUMENTS OF DARKNESS will be?

>I think it'll result in Gary Russell getting his mouth around a big black oboe. (I have no idea what that's supposed to mean. I just like the sound of it.

Is Jenna a literal godsend?

>>79681000
trips confirm

>>79681011
dubs confirm

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This is your new Doctor, /who/. There is nothing you can do to change this.

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>>79680829

>>79680409
>He was driving illegally in the Zygon Inversion, wasn't he?
Honestly, most of the things he does is probably illegal. But he tends to consider himself outside the law (mostly because they are incapable of doing anything right when it comes to alien threats).

>>79680829
>my 'real' friends

Reminder they were in love

https://youtu.be/p5eHJmQg-_M

>>79680187
Keep trying, anon. I have faith in you.

But for real, next time you're out on the road with the examiner, steer onto the other side of the road. When the examiner screams "what the hell are you doing?!", reply with "We're probably crashing!"

And as you drive into the oncoming traffic, and as the examiner's life flashes before their eyes, you look into those eyes before you shout:

"Just one question....Do you happen to know how to drive this thing?!"

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>>79682584

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Hhhhhnggghhhh

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Returning?

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Does anyone own a season in 2 parts? Why does the bbc release these?

>>79683134
HHHHHHHNNNNNGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

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>>79683154
They used to release it in 4 or 5 parts (volumes).

>>79683202
>Tooth and Claw is the second episode
>On the 2nd volume
Explain

>>79683289
Disc 1 has The Christmas Invasion and some BTS thing.

>>79683514
Oh wait I was thinking S3. Volume 1 just has TCI and New Earth.

I honestly think for the Chibnall era they should do 30 minute episodes again, and have 2-3 part stories.

They should just try it. I miss strong cliffhangers.

Utopia has the best cliffhanger in all of Doctor Who.

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Why isn't Alonso new Doctor?

>>79683640
He was very nearly 11 or 12 if i recall correctly

>>79683608
will never happen
s9 is the closest you'll get to a classic who format season

https://twitter.com/GirlyLetters/status/834434904654016515

Is she retarded?

>>79679955
Why did Duke have to die?

>>79683723
Damn Andrea. Kepp politics off your Who stalking account

>>79682403
They loved each other, of course.

But "in luurrve"? Nah.

https://twitter.com/GirlyLetters/status/834079152512839680/photo/1

CLASSIC CYBERMEN CONFIRMED
GET HYPE

>>79683202

Any difference in blu-ray quality for series 9 pts 1 and 2 compared to the box set of the whole season? They're not cheaper transfers are they?

>>79683849
That looks like the new Cibby

>>79683870
nope its the moonbase ones

>>79683880
With a blue light in their chest?

>>79683890
well it looks too fat to be the newest ones

>>79683134
>Returning?

Nope but >>79682963
might be. According to Wikipedia. "Fady Elsayed, who stars in the Doctor Who spin-off Class, will guest star in an episode of Doctor Who [series 10]".

>>79683880
Post pic

https://twitter.com/GirlyLetters/status/834137316352483329

its the new ones

>>79683640
Alonso a qt, I wanna grab his ears

https://twitter.com/bbcthree/status/832186326795554816

>not a single clip of Class

JUST

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>>79684042

>>79683608
>30 minute episodes
>wait a week for the next episode

Wouldn't work, not in the era of reality TV baking, dancing and singing shows that require minimal short term memory before watching the next one. Even if you've missed a few, there's always a recap of the 'competition' so far. Entertainment for brain dumbed masses.

Drama( incl sci fi drama) - people prefer to binge watch during days off work, with *just* enough of a cliffhanger between episodes to make you want to watch the next episode immediately afterwards.

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>>79683723
>>79683765
Can't understand why she's posting 'politics' stuff on her *supposedly* devoted to 'DW and related' Twitter account.

Maybe it's an American thing, Idunno. He's your elected POTUS Yankfags, get over it and vote another one in next time if he's crap.

That's democracy!

>>79684816
gr8 b8

>>79680152
I love Doctor Hayley. Keep up the good fight, anon.

>>79683723
She's right though. Genuinely, what did he mean by this?

>>79684983
That they were planned by liberals. I don't even line Trump but it's clear he meant they were acted out by liberals, but she focused on the "planned". Of course meetings are planned, they're not flash mobs. How thick is she?

>>79685034
>That they were planned by liberals. I don't even line Trump but it's clear he meant they were acted out by liberals
And? Who would you expect them to be planned by?

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Next doctor right here

>>79685120
Not today, spam Barrowman. I'm wise to you tricks.

>>79685264
>"I think it was an inevitability that the world would turn to Chris," said Tennant. "It's a big, massive, difficult job and it needs someone who is as enthusiastic and talented as Chris."
More like Mark Gatiss BTFO.

>>79685100
That's not the question. I don't care about American politics but it was clear he was denouncing who was behind and she just picked up the "they're planned" part.

>>79685606
I find the meaning of the entire statement is so obscure and redundant that I don't think you can blame someone for focusing on the wrong part.

>>79684926
Least b8ish. /pol/ has no place on /who/. Fuck off /pol/, you get who you vote for.

>>79686115
>hurr durr Trump won the election therefore you can't criticize him

>>79683862

Nope. It's just if you can't wait for the boxset and want your Doctor Who fix NOW.

They don't come with any extras though. Just the episodes and that's it.

>>79680187
I failed my first time too because I was in the middle lane...I felt like saying "well why do they have a middle lane if you're not meant to drive in it" but I kept my mouth shut and redid the test last week and passed. Just rebook asap.

>>79685299
He's oozing enthusiasm about his holiday and his next play.

>>79681078
Moz can't act (see his cameo in Brookside) but that's no reason not to give the man a chance.

>>79680187
I passed my test by going to a DMV thats in a Asian area and got myself and Asian driver. Best decision ever. I'd say you do the same thing

>>79679955
Did Kylie receive the gift of the Ten Inch?

Waiting for a based Master spin off series where he has adventures like the Doctor to keep himself entertained for a time, but is still an asshole. Now that is a spinoff i'd watch.

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When will she notice us? :(

>>79688315
Hopefully never. Shes seen enough autistic fans to do her a lifetime

>>79686115
>you get who you vote for.
Why doesn't the BBC let people vote for the next Doctor? Then /who/ can rig it so we don't get trans-black lady Who.

>>79689397
We'd rig it for Hayley Atwell and I'd have no regrets.

>>79689397
/who/'s a fairly small community compared to something like Reddit or Tumblr. I don't think we could rig it unless it has barely or no verification for votes.

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>>79689951
Get erased fuckface, we chinball now.

>>79681634
how many of us???

>>79689397
We'd probably rig it for Gareth Roberts.

>>79689397
People will probably just vote for an actor that will bankrupt the bbc.

But that's the will of the people I guess.

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bump

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>>79691030
>Eruditorum Press is shitposting general
>Vox Day's PR firm burned down the server
>Doctor Who on indefinite hiatus
>Peter Capaldi to be replaced by another straight cis white man
>Phil Sandifer photographed exchanging money with Michael Grade
>James Murphy's on-podcast breakdown jeopardizing production
>Pex Lives studios have been empty for months
>BBC Books no longer accepting submissions
>Sandifer confirmed that Titan Comics "wasn't interested" in his pitch for a Susan Foreman comic
>Jane Campbell has been in the hospital for two months, no contact with the media
>Josh Marsfelder currently under investigation following Garfield overanalysis
>Kit Power cut from the guest post roster
>Mark Gatiss and Eliezer Yudkowsky have "exciting announcement" for November
>Sandifer and Jill Buratto currently undergoing "trial separation"
>Jack Graham 14-minute Marxist tirade recorded in a Tescos checkout line
>Rumors swirling about Josh Marsfelder's "transition"
>Steven Moffat retirement announcement imminent
>Kevin Burns silently suffering from cancer of the larynx
>Anna Wiggins "hasn't come out of the basement in months" according to family members
>"TARDIS Eruditorum was a mistake. It's nothing but trash," says Sandifer on a Christmas Shabcast
>Holly Boson plagiarism accusations made by Chameleon Circuit
>Gareth Roberts recently hired by BBC to "political adviser" position
>Shana Wolstein has "critical sexual health announcement" to make
>Urn containing John Hurt's ashes has gone missing
>Daniel Harper releases 15 minute video about women's rights
>Jack Graham signs non-compete with Labour Party, will not write for Eruditorum Press for 5 years
>Larry Miles admitted for three-day "psychiatric observation" after being detained outside Sandifer's home with "a motley collection of bone implements"
>Ex-wife tell-all in the works, "Phil Sandifer qlippothed and used me!"
>Peter Harness suffering from late-stage thorax cancer

It's over, Eruditorum Press, we're finished.

>>79689397
The Next Doctor...for comic relief

>>79689397
Because tumblr would rig it so that we do.

>>79689951
correct answer.

He seems to be the only Who related guy i can find that voted for Brexit.

>>79691309
What if people paid to cast their votes and the more they paid the more weight their vote (or votes — you could give them multiple votes if they pay more money) would have.

Bet /who/ would make a fake GoFundMe for someone with cancer then just spend it all on the vote

all money goes to Red Nose Day

>>79691991
We can do a GoFundMe for Cloister since he is cancer.

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>>79691991
But then Ian Levine would just use his record royalties to cast himself.

>>79691991
Introducing President Donald Trump

as

THE DOCTOR


doo wee ooo

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>>79692323
>I am going to build a Sky Trench and make Skaro pay for it. You can't listen to Creaky Rassilon, folks. Fake Panopticon!

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Roll for your Doctor and companion combo

>>79694043
>no Alfred Enoch
>no Georgina Campbell
>AKA the GOAT duo

Fuck off.

>>79694043
Roll.

>>79694239
So it's Jeeves and Wooster in space?

>>79683608

You cant do it in todays tv climate. A big budget sci-fi show like Doctor Who would get ridiculed at laughed at if it wasn't 45min episodes.

>>79694043
Roll

>>79694043
roll

So, if we got Jamie Glover as the main companion for the first female Doctor, would that increase or decrease the chances of William Russell getting a guest appearance on the show before he dies?

>>79694043
Rollerino

>>79694043
come on baby gimme something good

>>79695361
Damn idk who either of mine are

>>79694672
Explain the correlation between those two things or get stuffed

>>79694043
>Eddie Izzard as the Doctor
I never realised how much I wanted this

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>>79683608
There is a precedent for that.

>>79695543
Jamie Glover played William Russell in An Adventure in Time and Space. So we'd have the guy who played Ian and the guy who played the guy playing Ian in an episode as old Ian and young vaguely-Ian-ish companion.

>>79695599
> Eddie Izzard as The Doctor
Find and watch the pilot episode for Mockingbird Lane. He'd be a better Master and an excellent successor to Michelle Gomez.

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>>79694043
Pizza Rolls.
>>79695599
Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but would eddie izzard fulfill the tran-doctor meme?
>>79695898
Love this show, even with it's feministic push in season 2. Don't mind "Kelly" at all and Dana used to be on CraigyFerg's show.

>>79696097
NBC should have picked it up. He was good fun as grandpa.

>>79696003
Plus, his dad might join the campaign to make it happen. He showed up to hang out with William and watch the filming of Adventure and reminisce about The Crusade to the young people.

Oh fuck, Cloister's back. It was a good couple of threads without the old man shitting it up

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>>79696128
Oh, you now I can't stay away. I'd miss you too much.

>>79696097
He would make a great Master. He can do the calm evil thing, but he can also go over the top when needed but still seem scary while he does it instead of just silly—look at the lines he got in Powers, and he somehow made them work.

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>ywn never see/hear christopher eccleston reprise his role as the doctor in your lifetime

why even live?

Rewatching Hell Bent for the third time.
First time I hated it.
Second time I liked first 15 minuts before Clara is saved.
Third time I found it okay to good... until Ashildr shows up.

How does this work?

>>79696115
Why wasn't it picked up in the first place? Anything official?

>>79696460
doesn't bother me anymore. I used to want matt and other new series doctors to get involved with big finish but I'm no longer that confident in big finish's new releases. I don't think it would be worth it

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Reminder that successful Ecclesmith fusion

>>79694043
roll

>>79696752
IIRC it didn't "test" well in focus groups and the decision was made before they even released the pilot. Too expensive and somehow too high of concept for audiences, despite being a remake of an ancient show. I loved every minute of it and was very disappointment it wasn't picked up. Casting was perfect.
>>79696824
What horrors technology has wrought.

>>79696824
Does that make this 9/11

>hell bent was 8 years ago
How do you feel about it

>>79696101
> AvED
The half hour format is used well in AvED. Trims the fat, keeps things focused. Lots of shows have about a half hour of actual substance and then they pad things out with "drama" bullshit and this is no different for New Who. So much could be different if the half hour format could be tried again.

I have it at 8/10...
For reference, I have one episode at 10/10, 23 at 9/10 and 52 at 8/10.

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>>79696817
Don't you think he looks tired?

>>79696003
Or we could get William's son.. ;)

>>79696817
They got David in for two decent and one really good story. No reason why they can't at least get Matt. Bet they'll get Peter in, first.

Probably never gonna see Chris, though.

>>79696604
Hell Bent is better when you watch Face the Raven and Heaven Sent first. They form one big story arc.

>>79696887
> Focus groups
Balls. Utter balls.

>>79697149
Are you sure it's better when you watch 2 superior episodes before it?

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what the fuick

>>79697269
Dunno which is more disappointing — that he probably meant it as a JOKE, or that it was shooped

>>79694043

rolling for GOAT 95/25 combination

>>79694043
eroytyuytyujghfd

>>79697269
There's probably been a lot of posts like this over the years, with different names in place of chibnall's

>>79697014
its GOAT

i remember when people were hype at chibnall bringing back gallifrey because "he's going to do it properly unlike moffat" and then he completely ruined gallifrey and the lore forever. bravo. also bill gates has been a great president so far.

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>>79697269
reminder

>>79697508
Just because some of us want Moffat gone doesn't mean we're happy with his replacement.

>>79697079
>Or we could get William's son.. ;)
Yeah, that is a bit more obvious, isn't it? But for some reason, I don't see Alfred as a companion, or at least not as the "main companion" to Doctor Hayley or Doctor Olivia.

>>79697508
>>79697599
To be honest, Doctor Who could only be saved by a Showrunner that went heavily against the grain. It'll never happen

>>79697748
>implying there won't be a new Cartmel who hires exclusively new writers and lets them do pretty much whatever they like

im already sick of chibnall

Are there any interviews (etc) with Chibnall where talks about what Who he liked and disliked back in the day? He feels very mysterious compared to Moff getting drunk and slagging off everything except the Davison era. Why didn't he write any VNAs or Big Finish?

>>79697863
Why would he write any VNA or Big Finish? You say like it's an essential thing to do.

Ear story fag here. Are the novels or comics any good?

>>79698009
Just because most of the other NuWho writers did - RTD and Moff most obviously, but also Gatiss, Cornell, Shearman, (that's) Gareth, etc. Feels weird that he was a big enough fan to go on TV and annoy Pip and Jane Baker, but didn't actually write Who when there were opportunities to. (Unless he tried and was somehow even shitter than Neil Penswick...)

>>79698063
The NAs and EDAs both have a lot of really good novels, some of which push the boundaries of what Doctor Who can do pretty far, and some really, really bad ones.

The MAs and PDAs… only a handful of them bring anything new to Doctor Who, but a lot of them pull off being a straightforward trad adventure of the era they represent. If that sounds good to you, you'll probably like them; if you wonder what the point of that is when you can just go to Big Finish and get the same thing with the actors' voices, you probably won't.

The NSAs, mostly forget about, except for the "prestige" hardbacks written by name F/SF authors.

>>79698201
>The NSAs, mostly forget about
Only Human, Prisoner of the Daleks and The Eyeless were good though

>>79698148
There's an interview where he said that he got to writing through theater, which is uncommon.

>>79698063
As for the comics, they range even more wildly.

Pre-DWM: Childish crap.

Early DWM: Main strips pretty boring, backup strips very 2000AD. I don't know if they'd be as good without the nostalgia factor, but at least check out Alan Moore's run.

Mid 80s DWM: Frobisher!

Late 80s DWM: Basically a trial run for the NAs. Not as good as the NAs, but pretty good.

Late 80s RT: Boring.

90s/00s DWM: Often became an annoying fanwank fest, but not terrible.

NuWho (IDW, Titan, etc.): These all seem perfectly fine, but I haven't been able to get into them for some reason.

>>79698263
>Only Human, Prisoner of the Daleks and The Eyeless were good though
Sure, if someone says "I read all the NAs and EDAs, is there anything else to read?", I'd give them Only Human and Eyeless (I haven't read Prisoner, but I'll give it a chance on your recommendation…), but both Gareth and Lance wrote much better books in the earlier ranges.

>>79698201
>tfw almost finished all of the First Doctor's MAs and PDAs
I can't wait to get to the NAs and EDAs. I have a long road ahead of me though, it's already taken my years to get to here.

>>79698201
>>79698394
Thank you for the response. Sounds like there are things worth checking out.

>>79697077
I miss Gary Russell being in charge. While I am happy that Big Finish are doing well I wish that there would be a good shakeup there too. No idea who would make a good successor to Briggs though.

>>79698516
Are you reading the novels in order by Doctor? Have you done One's Telos novellas?

I haven't been able to motivate myself to dive into the MAs or PDAs the way I did the other ranges; I've just read a few here and there based on reviews.

>>79698866
Steven Hall

>>79699008
>Steven Hall
A guy who's written two Doctor Who stories and two non-Doctor Who stories and never directed anything?

>>79699008
>>79699067
How about John Dorney?

>>79698878
>Are you reading the novels in order by Doctor?
Not just that, but chronological order with each Doctor's books too. Except when I get to the NA and EDA lines, I'll read them by publication date. But I'm sure at that point chronological order and publication date become the same thing anyway.

>Have you done One's Telos novellas?
Yes. One of them was one of the best First Doctor books, the other was the worst. I'm almost done with The Man in the Velvet Mask, and then I think I only have 1 more book to read and I'm done with the First Doctor.

>I haven't been able to motivate myself to dive into the MAs or PDAs the way I did the other ranges; I've just read a few here and there based on reviews.
Well tell me if you want any First Doctor recommendations.

One range I'm not sure I'll ever be able to motivation myself to get into is the Benny Summerfield one. I mostly want to because of Brax though. It seems like most of his appearances are in there.

>>79699317
That'd work too. Or Cavan Scott.

So, I'm up to Pier Pressure in my BF relisten.

This is one of the ones I bought at initial release, and I'm pretty sure it put me to sleep three times before I gave up.

Am I remembering right? And is it worth trying to push through it again this time?

>>79699340
>Except when I get to the NA and EDA lines, I'll read them by publication date.
Except that two PDAs explicitly take place in the middle of the early NAs, and one takes place in the middle of the mid-period EDAs.

>Well tell me if you want any First Doctor recommendations.
Sure, go for it.

>One range I'm not sure I'll ever be able to motivation myself to get into is the Benny Summerfield one.
There are some great books in there. Larry Miles' best novel, Dave Stone's two best (although if you don't like him, you'll probably hate those two even more…), Simon Bucher-Jones running wild with his own ideas instead of someone else's for once…

>>79699317
>How about John Dorney?
>>79699367
>That'd work too. Or Cavan Scott.
As far as I know, neither one of them has directed anything either.

They'd be good as the storyline editor for the Doctor Who range—the guy who actually commissions and works with the authors and tries to keep the character arcs and storylines straight. But replacing Nick Briggs—running the productions, hiring and assigning directors, stuff like that—what makes you think a good writer is what's needed for that job?

>>79699368
I want to give it a relisten myself. I recall it having Doug Bradley in the cast. Now there's an actor I wish played someone significant in Doctor Who.

>>79699570
>Except that two PDAs explicitly take place in the middle of the early NAs, and one takes place in the middle of the mid-period EDAs.
Sounds complicated, not sure what I'm going to do there. Which books are those?

>Sure, go for it.
I personally think the best are Campaign, Time and Relative, and The Time Travelers. And if you like historicals, you'll probably like The Witch Hunters.

>There are some great books in there. Larry Miles' best novel
I've read Down. And I'll probably read Dead Romance at some point. Other than that, I doubt I'll even think about touching the rest of the line until I'm done with the main ranges. Which will literally be years from now.

>>79680152
Looks real to me. Tilda Swinton should be the companion, not the doctor.

>>79699734
>I want to give it a relisten myself. I recall it having Doug Bradley in the cast. Now there's an actor I wish played someone significant in Doctor Who.
Yes, it looks like Doug Bradley plays Professor Talbot, the second-credited guest star.

And reading the reviews on DWRG, they all single out Bradley's evil voice as one of the best things about the story, along with Roy Hudd's Max Miller impression, and the general sound setting. But they all seem to agree that it's a boring story without much of a plot.

>>79699708
Basically because I'd rather a bizarre shambles of a production with brilliant ideas behind it than a technically well-made one that doesn't take any risks (like the 4DAs). It's one of the many reasons I'd make a terrible showrunner.

>>79699816
>Sounds complicated, not sure what I'm going to do there. Which books are those?
Independence Day: Definitely after the Timewyrm books, but before Love and War, probably right before Nightshade.

Bullet Time: After Lungbarrow.

Fear Itself: After EarthWorld.

If you're reading the comics, too, a couple of the Seven PDAs also take place after those, but before Timewyrm.

The real fun is going to be where to read The Infinity Doctors.

>>79700005
>Basically because I'd rather a bizarre shambles of a production with brilliant ideas behind it than a technically well-made one that doesn't take any risks (like the 4DAs). It's one of the many reasons I'd make a terrible showrunner.
That's exactly why I'd rather two different people do those two different jobs. Big Finish is already pretty far along in that direction; the TV show is not, and that's it's biggest problem.

>>79699890
He should play one of the Shakri

>>79700772
>He should play one of the Shakri
Seems like kind of a small part—one member of an enemy ensemble that'll probably never reappear.

If it has to be a returning enemy rather than thinking up something new for him, what about a new Valeyard for the Doctor's new regeneration cycle?

>>79700593
>The real fun is going to be where to read The Infinity Doctors.
That's easy. You read it in a different timeline, one that diverged early in your life, but at roughly the same time as you're reading Beltempest in the main timeline.

>>79701030
It was mostly a joke about the Shakri looking a bit like Pinhead (as well as the association with cubes)
I'd be happy with anything really as long as he gets to be terrifying

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I've decided I'm going to be a hardcore Chibnall stan when his era begins, no matter the quality of it. I'll be like KillTheMoon-anon except for all of the Chibnall era episodes, and I'll defend him against all of /who/'s criticisms. Or maybe, rather than defend him with arguments, I'll just do what people have been doing for years whenever someone criticises Moffat. Except instead of RTD, I'll say "so? Moffat was way worse"

Should be fun

>>79701390
So, let's see you get started by arguing that Torchwood S2 was better than both S1 and S3.

>>79701390
no

>>79701612
Sorry, then you're not committed enough to be our official Chibsfag. But we'll keep your application on file, and let you know if there are opening for any other troll positions.

>>79701655
Are there any available positions to troll Cloister. I want to make him reee

>>79701793
>Are there any available positions to troll Cloister. I want to make him reee
Sure, we've budgeted for a 300% expansion in that department.

Qualifications:

* Candidate must be either young enough to make fun of Cloister for being old, or old enough to make fun of him for not being old enough to be a true classic fan.

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>>79696185

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>>79701874
>>79701793
You guys are mean!

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>>79702044
Blessed with another toomanytime original! I'll cherish it friend! Hope you're well. Have some crisps.

>>79702062
Sorry, but Cloister-bullying is too good for our community to lose. How many other places are there on the internet where when things get nasty, "nasty" is just someone pointing out that there are people in the world between the ages of 30 and 60?

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>>79702241
b-but this is my safe space!

>>79701206
Fuck, the one we saw was old to boot. Joke or not, that would have been a pleasant nod. TPOT had good ideas but 45 min wasn't enough to properly tell them all.

>>79701030
Doctor Who needs more characters who are on The Doctor's level or greater but who are not Time Lords. Davros was the most recent but I got more than a hint that The Fisher King was meant to be such a character too.

>>79701584
No, I'm only going to support Chibnall's era of Doctor Who. Until then, I'm off-duty.

>>79701793
Sure. Just call him old whenever he posts. He can't resist (you)ing you for that, usually accompanied by some low-quality reaction gif and poor attempt at humour.

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>>79702852
>low quality.
I'll have you know that my gifs memes i trade on the underground meme market and share with you are of the highest quality steal-able.

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Just finished rewatching The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar.

It's really odd seeing episodes where the Doctor is genuinely one of the weakest links. Capaldi's acting was lacking in what felt like the majority of his scenes, and a lot of his scenes were him just memeing around anyway, like riding the tank, the tea in Davro's chair, etc. Meanwhile Clara and the Master's scenes/interactions were all much more interesting. Davros, too, was acted very well and interesting to watch.

>>79702599
>Doctor Who needs more characters who are on The Doctor's level or greater but who are not Time Lords.
The real problem isn't that they don't have enough characters at the Doctor's level or greater, it's that most of the characters they do come up with are way above the Doctor's level. For every Davros, there's a dozen power-creep enemies like the Fendahl, Sutekh, the Beast, the Black Guardian, or at least House. Which works every once in a while, but too much more often and it would be silly. If we can have more Davroses without more Great Old Ones, I'd be all for that.

>>79703073
Fair enough. I can agree with that. An even match is most interesting anyways.

What are you listening to, /who/?
https://hangingdong.bandcamp.com/album/covers-the-beatles

Does anyone else find Missy unappealing? I think she was way better as John Simm and as a dude in general.

anybody have that site that lists every single doctor who story chronologically? My bookmark for it seems to be dead

>>79703034

I loved those episodes.

>>79705112
If you mean chronologically on his personal timeline, I think you're talking about http://www.whoniverse.net/biography/timeline

If you mean by real-world years of his adventures (and things that were mentioned in them), I think you want http://www.doctorwhochronology.com/doctorwho/drwhotoc.html

Chronologically by

>>79705514
By the way, neither one is all that complete. For example, the first one only includes TV up to the end of 10, Big Finish up to about the middle of the Divergent Arc, and DWM comics only for one brief period in the late 80s.

>>79705112
>>79705514
Couldn't you get a chronological list of stories from the Doctor's POV just by going through each Doctor's biography on the Tardis wiki?

>>79705514
The first one is close to what I was looking for, but it looks a lot different than I remember. Maybe it's the same site and they've just changed the design to be much harder to read now, I don't know.

>>79705849
>Couldn't you get a chronological list of stories from the Doctor's POV just by going through each Doctor's biography on the Tardis wiki?
Not very well.

For example, when does Independence Day happen? The author intended it to be obviously "after Timewyrm and probably Cat's Cradle" (and, as the editor of those books, he should know), but that isn't an in-universe fact. Ace talks about how she's more independent than she was when she started traveling with the Doctor, in a way that deliberately invokes Nightshade, but "sounds like Nightshade" is original research, not verifiable fact. So, while everyone who's ever tried to do a chronology puts it right before Nightshade, or maybe right after it, TDC just lists it in a stub-blob of 20 stories that haven't been chronologically sorted.

>>79705921
>The first one is close to what I was looking for, but it looks a lot different than I remember.
Probably not the same site, then; this one hasn't changed in forever, it's just copied and pasted from their old site that went down around 2010.

I think there's another kind of similar one somewhere; let me dig through my bookmarks.

>>79706187
I figured out that if I use the wayback machine I can access the site I'm thinking of, which must've either got a new domain or shut down.

>>79706187
>I think there's another kind of similar one somewhere
http://www.drwhoguide.com/who.htm

This one is a bit more complete, but it still stops with 11, and only has Big Finish up to about Monthly 150. I like the other one better because it gives some explanation for why they placed each story when they did, and includes flashback scenes and similar stuff.

There's also a pure-ASCII one that's more similar to the first one, which I think only covers up to around S1, but I can't find it. I may have just downloaded that one on my old laptop rather than bookmarking it on Wayback…

>>79706335
>I figured out that if I use the wayback machine I can access the site I'm thinking of, which must've either got a new domain or shut down.
What's the URL?

>>79706378
One more:

http://www.clivebanks.co.uk/Doctor%20Who%20intro.htm

This one just treats Eight as having four separate timelines, so it doesn't have to reconcile the EDAs and BF, or the various Time War stories with anything.

>>79706149
>For example, when does Independence Day happen?
Better, when does Time's Champion happen, or anything else that doesn't fit into TDC's weird copyright-based canon rules.

>>79705112
http://www.eyespider.org.uk/drwho/compleat.html

this is the only one I know of that's actually kept up to date.

>>79706875
>http://www.eyespider.org.uk/drwho/compleat.html
Thanks; adding it to my bookmarks.

>>79706875
Wow, there is some serious fanwank here. My favorite is his detailed explanation for the TVC strips that were repeated with Four subbed for Three, which even explains why they screwed up one strip and left Joan as Sarah Jane and even has the Doctor call her Sarah.

>>79706398
>What's the URL?
http://www.eyespider.freeserve.co.uk/drwho/wh/list.html

>>79706378
This one looks good too. The one I linked above, when thrown in the wayback machine, includes the 12th Doctor.

>>79706875
Oh thank you, that's the bookmark I had (here: >>79708101) but my url was outdated.

TRIGGERED

https://twitter.com/ryxnf

test

>>79709323
>test
3/100. F. See me after class.

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So is Genesis of the Cybermen confirmed not to be happening at this stage then?

>>79709315
>https://twitter.com/ryxnf
Is there anything even remotely related to Doctor Who there, or do you just think we're going to care one way or the other about some random person's notes on their breakfast and pictures of their cats and uninformed comments on politics and whatever else is probably there like every other random person's Twitter?

>>79694043
rollan

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https://twitter.com/masterpiecepbs/status/833738017126834177

>ywn give Jenna your babies

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Leaked image of the next Doctor

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Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

CLOISTER LIVES

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>the Doctor entered the confession dial 4 and a half billion years ago

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>when you realise you've been stuck in the dial for the same duration than Earth's current lifespan

moffat wrote the best episode of every nuwho series

Where can I re-watch series 9 for free..

Just want to refresh my memory before series 10 airs.

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>>79712451
We know.

>>79712487
dailymotion

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>>79712451
>what is Midnight

It's out!
https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/the-war-doctor-volume-04-casualties-of-war-1383

>>79709441
Mondas is in the Finale. They have started filming if we're lucky you will see snaps of the 10th planet cybermen soon. They are filming in a welsh village to give Mondas a retro early 20th century look.

Mongdas likes candy.

Calling it now. Ending will be VNA level dark.

Cybermen will be scariest villains of nuwho. Capaldi doctor will lose and will be turned into the cyberman, but Bill / Missy / Nardol save a bit of his dna and manage to clone him. But he's cloned with a defect and Christmas Special he's basically going breaking bad.

>>79712487
Well if you're willing to download here https://drive.google.com/open?id=107k4dkqOM_G_4p6eZR90y8Nla1NEiKgB1qMkMmv8Yz0

Okay so in Donna's bullshit Turn Left world Sarah Jane Smith and her pals saved the hospital from the moon but Martha died, and Jack saved the Earth from the Sontarans but Torchwood died.

So who the fuck saved Earth from the Shakespeare witches? Or the Daleks in New York in the 30's? Or the giant lizard scorpion combo that Mark Gatiss turned into? So much bullshit I swear...

Hey /who/fags, If you're looking for mature discussion about real entertainment /lbg/ is right here >>79712536

>>79715631
Do you think there are no more protectors of earth? You can imagine literally anything.

UNIT
Silents keeping history so humanity will reach spacesuits
Other companions

WHATEVER YOU WANT

>>79715697
>UNIT, Silents and other old as fuck companions went back in time to the 1600's and the 1930's and protected Earth

Okay then.

>>79709759
I don't even want kids but I'd have them with her.

>>79715631
>worst companion
>got entire episode to herself
why did they think that was a good idea?

>>79715829
No woman would touch your micropenis.

Martha's theme is the best companion theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REwOudgPQTI

martha is the best companion

>>79715852
It could have at least been saved by having scenes of Sarah saving the hospital, Torchwood defeating the Sontarans but dying, ect. They were all on set anyway, how much extra would it have really been?

>>79715631
>So who the fuck saved Earth from the Shakespeare witches? Or the Daleks in New York in the 30's?
In "Whatever Happened to Sarah Jane", the Trickster changed the timeline so that the alien invaders that Sarah Jane would have defeated went to other planets, and the Earth would be destroyed in the way he wanted. Presumably the bug thing did the same to the Daleks and everything else.
>Or the giant lizard scorpion combo that Mark Gatiss turned into?
Wasn't Saxon/the Master behind that?

>>79715960
Having them die offscreen was more impactful. Not to mention the whole point was to tell the story from Donna's point of view and she didn't know them.

>>79694043

>>79715631
>>79716134
>>Or the giant lizard scorpion combo that Mark Gatiss turned into?
>Wasn't Saxon/the Master behind that?
I think so but either way, one giant scorpion man isn't exactly an apocalyptic threat.

why didn't titanic crash into earth

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>>79716317
Uh, it did?

>>79716317
unit

>>79716364
A better question is, wasn't it meant to destroy the whole goddamn planet? Why'd it only destroy London?

>>79716395
Doctor thought it would destroy the Earth, but he was incorrect this time.

>>79717418
Maybe Davison fixed it on his way out

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>ywn be this glass of water
>why even live

>>79718507
White men are so lame, you're proof

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>avenue hayward
>hayward = the direction of Hayley
>/who/ is on the road (avenue) to a Hayley Atwell Doctor
IT'S LITERALLY CONFIRMED.

>>79718754
*yawn*
Bore.

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>>79718754
LOL, no

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>>79718754
But it's going to be the rough cockney 'can you adam and eve it' Danny Dyer Doctor.

>>79712487
he didn't even write the 3 best of 6 (Doctor's Wife, God Complex, Girl Who Waited)

>>79719383
The Doctor's Wife is not canon

>>79718906
Oh yeah? I'll BORE you alright. I'll BORE into your fucking asshole

when will the next trailer be /who/?

>>79719668
never the show's been cancelled and you'll have to listen to ear stories in the future.

Tonight, we entrap a Time Lord.

>>79719788
God that was retarded.
>le wacky Doctor knew he was walking into a trap and let everything go according to plan and was just playing

Laziest writing ever. Fucking Moffat.

>>79719819
you seem upset

>>79719819
You're retarded. He had to have had some idea of what Davros was doing, otherwise he wouldn't have set it up to get Missy to go looking for him as he clearly expected her to come along, wouldn't have set the HADS on the TARDIS (which is a manual control), and wouldn't have needed to create his sonic sunglasses which would go unnoticed by the Daleks/Davros. And his eventual hoodwink/outmaneuvering of Davros is essentially the same he did to Davros in Remembrance of the Daleks. The Doctor let Davros think he was stealing Time Lord powers/technology but the Doctor set it up/knew it would fail.

Everything involving the confession dial and the rock show in 1138 was a calculated move in his part, and obviously he brought along his sunglasses and turned on the HADS feature in advance. But sure, he may not have known what Davros' specific endgame was - just that it would endanger him. In fact, I would even point to Missy's recounting of the Doctor escaping the assassins at the beginning of TWF (where she pointed out that he won by improvising incredibly quickly) as evidence that the specific "take advantage of the Daleks in the sewers" counter-move was engineered on the spot.

Then again, who knows. Maybe he worked out what Davros was planning as soon as he got a close look at the life-support cables. That would still qualify as an improvised solution, but I think it works either way.

>>79699368
It's shite m8.

>>79719545
fake wanderer.

>Introducing Pearl Mackie asBill

What did they mean by this?

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Oh no please NO MORE CLARA!!! Moffat just let her go... focus on Bill and Nardole.

>>79721314
calm down
jennas not coming back

>>79712847
Silence in the Library > Midnight

however i think Turn Left is the best S4 episode so your point still stands

>>79679955
Doctor who is fucking garbage.
It can tell any story in all of time and space and it always ends up a shitty looking celebration of mediocrity.
It's a predictable, safe formulaic children's show where the Le wacky man saves the day with some 'witty' banter and a 'clever' scheme.
The Doctor never goes anywhere in his development, just going from dark to light or dark to light depending on the incarnation.
It has no love for science or history, it just boils everything down for lowest common denominator. It's a waste of time and effort,
why don't you losers mature and watch some grown up television for a change.
You shouldn't watch doctor who unless it's with your own children but I really don't want you plebs procreating.

Guy's i'm going to say it, I have just watched the Left Overs, they want a black Doctor please pick Patterson fucking Joseph, his acting is amazing and he's the whitest black man i've ever seen.

>>79722401
I agree. Doctor Who might be the dullest franchise in the history of tv franchises.

Each episode following the eccentric scientist and his pals as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Newman failed to veto the idea of introducing the Daleks; he made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable promotion for Terry Nation. Doctor Who might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the books were terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time the TARDIS landed, the author wrote that it made a "wheezing, groaning sound."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Terrance Dicks's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that he has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of the VNAs by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Doctor Who at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Doctor Who" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

>>79722401
u mad bro

www.bigfinish.com/news/v/doctor-who---war-doctor-series-4-now-out

The LAST time you will ever hear Sir John Hurt's portrayal as the Doctor. May he rest in peace.

Leela's in it. What should I know about Leela's post-Doctor life? I know she stayed on Gallifrey with K9 and got into it and stuff, but I don't know the details. Hopefully I won't need to know to enjoy this.

>>79722902
Did'nt Platt hint Leela was The Doctor's mum in Lungbarrow?

>>79721314
Reminder Moffat literally left the show because he missed her:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/steven-moffat-hints-jenna-colemans-8787258