The odd high numbers of 90s and 00s Hollywood women identifying as gay

What if gay people are more genetically disposed to like the arts and therefor are over represented in the acting world

>>79663741
That's bullshit, sexist, and it clashes with the fact men are also into those arts but a very small minority of them come out as gay compared to women.

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They get raped as kids by jews.

Gay people, like Jews, are shunned from most of society. So they go where they are accepted. Hollywood.

Not hard to figure out, OP.

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>>79663676
Stop looking to deep into this OP.

>>79663769
It's not sexist and there is a lot of gay dudes in Hollywood. I'm nog going to argue with you any further before you back up your statements with some facts and numbers. Anon out.

>>79663855
But that's exactly the Opposite for Hollywood. Hollywood is not just the arts, it's also business, show business. Most of Hollywood wannabies want to make money and a name, they don't go to be "accepted", don't confuse it with Broadway for example.

>>79663879
Exactly my point, I don't find it to be deep at all, I see a lot of superficial trending/memeing for the sweet popularity of boost of coming out.

>>79663880
So you literally believe Ellen Page, Kirsten Steweart and all the other women into that meme are legitimately disgusted of men in bed. Fine. Keep believing that, I don't.
That's not a statistics discussion, I literally talk of SPECIFIC PEOPLE. I look at them and I simply don't believe them.
Honestly, who seriously gets a *pure* gaydar out of those two. I would say at MOST a bidar signal, and that weak.

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because cali is fuckin gay dude

It's all bullshit.Kristen Stewart had been repeatedly with men and now she pretends to be pure gay.
From Wikipedia:
>. She dated Michael Angarano, her co-star from the 2004 film Speak,[89] before meeting Robert Pattinson, with whom she appeared in Twilight.[90] Stewart has been a part of several relationships since then, including time with French singer Stéphanie

>>79663676
Pretty much all women are bisexual.

>>79664130
I claim that it's bullshit when they claim they suddenly became pure gay. As if. We know you've been with men for half your life Kristen.

>>79664128
Could have been beards, or she just didn't want to accept it. Plenty of male celebs who are gay dated women in the past. George Takei, Ricky Martin, Aaron Rodgers, no reason a woman couldn't do the same.

>>79664128
>>79664066

stewart has never "come out" as anything

she just started dating women

>>79663676
Which one has the dick?

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Ellen Page is also full of shit. She is obviously at most bisexual. Can any LGBT person here say with a straight face she isn't at least partly bi?

>>79664276
she is a tomboy says so right on her hat

>>79664167
She straight up said she was gay.

>>79664301

no she didnt

>inb4 citing a yellow press magazine cover as "proof"

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>>79664301
That joke on SNL wouldn't have worked if she said bi or 'queer' or whatever. Plenty of women usr the word gay to mean 'not heterosexual'. She has explicitly stated that she doesn't care much for labels.

>>79664418
t. thirsty kristen fan desperately clinging onto the idea that she still likes men

>>79664418
The ACTUALLY purely gay people like Ellen Degeneres will take that and repeat it as pure gayness. Give me a fucking break though that Kirsten Stewart is purely gay. Anyone with a half broken bidar or gaydar knows that obviously most of Hollywood gayness is full of shit from literally straight people or at most slightly bi.
It's funny how ironic it is. They pretend to be gay and they may be more straight than their own fans.
It makes sense though, Hollywood is a place of show business, it's not really the arts.

>>79664524

i still dont get what your issue is

>>79664559
Hypocrisy. I can't stand it.

>>79664576

get used to it, its not new nor is it going anywhere

>>79663676
Firstly, it's pretty obvious you have very little grasp of genetics -- so please just refrain from using "genetics" as the basis for any argument you have.

Also, if coming out as "gay" was seen as a career move, why would actors do it when it is demonstrably shown to be a career killer? The two women in your photo both dropped off the face of the earth when it was found out that they were gay.

Did you not consider the possibility that people are still really homophobic and would ostracize or not attend movies of gay men? Or that they too would be shunned by a critical and toxic fanbase and work environment?

Also, just because we know more people are gay, doesn't mean that equal amounts weren't gay before.

I'm just going to assume you're baiting and that I fell for it.

>>79664165
>"became"
>"suddenly"

Your grasp of sexuality is about as good as your grasp of genetics. Plz just stop posting anytime.

>>79663676

Newsflash: Women thrive on attention. If saying you're a dyke will get you some newspaper headlines, why not? And since you can just take it back and start fucking guys again at the drop of a hat, what do you have to lose?

>>79664687
You're full of shit. It's obviously a career boost. Ellen Page got 100X the popularity she had that day and in the long term she was like 2-3X boost at least.

>>79664687
>The two women in your photo both dropped off the face of the earth when it was found out that they were gay.

The careers of both had tanked way, way before they came out as gay, i.e. when audiences realised that Kristin Stewart really couldn't act and got sick of Ellen "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" Paige

If anything coming out was more a last gasp at getting career-revival publicity than anything

>>79664576
What is this hypocrisy you are speaking of?

And what's the big deal with them being bi, if they even are? You sound really flustered over things that don't concern you?

>>79664699
>Ruby Rose
That person actually triggers my gaydar, I wouldn't call her necessarily fake.

>>79664818
Do you not know what "gold star" means

>>79664835

are you still gold star if you got molested by a man as a kid?

>>79664756
Are you literally 12? She spent decades of her life with men in bed and in long term relationships with them, let alone she never actually was the gaydar triggering type, other than having a long face constantly for the vampire movies. She is at most bisexual.

>>79664770
>>79664809

Ya, look at all those major blockbusters those women have starred in since coming out.

Ellen has been at the forefront of LGBTQ rights ever since her "coming out", that's what she's focusing on now. She has the documentary series on Viceland, Gaycation -- and is an all around activist. Using the star power she gained as an actor to make the voices of the marginalized heard.

Once again, what is your problem here?

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>>79664461
I will not deny this, but that doesn't change the fact that she has dated several men in the past and that she explicitly refuses to label her sexuality.

>>79664816
Bi they may be, I'm talking about the meme of them pretending to be purely gay now all of a sudden.

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>>79664699
Rose is about as gay as can be though

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>tfw dyke
>tfw Ellen Page was my waifu and I was hyped when she came out even though I'd never have a chance with her
>tfw she turned way too butch after coming out and is also most likely just bisexual

And Stewart's definitely bi, I can't see why a dyke would have multiple long term relationships with men, it makes no sense.

>>79664461
If you think she doesn't fuck men you have ZERO experience with lesbians.
"""Lesbianism""" is largely a myth.

>>79664835
Yeah, just saying, in case anyone thought I meant there are no gay people. There are plenty. I find there's a sudden memeing of Bis and straight people identifying as gays.

>>79664861
I'm not sure what bearing her being in relationships with men has to do with her being gay.

It's funny how you're accusing me of being 12, when it's plainly obvious that you have, at best, a schoolyard grasp of sexuality.

There are numerous examples of men being with women their whole lives, sometimes even having children with them -- only to come out as gay. Not bisexual, but completely gay, not wanting anything to do with women. Their reasons for why they lived the charade vary, but they were all with women at one point.

Why is it so hard for you to believe that women can do this too? It's very sexist of you to put these restriction on women and not on men.

Also "gaydar triggering". Seriously? You can't even understand the concept of homosexuality, yet you are basing your conviction on your inability to notice their "gayness" with your immature knowledge?

Once again, pls stop posting.

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>tfw KStew dated St. Vincent who dated Cara Delevingne who cucked Johnny Depp with Amber Heard and probably fucks Taylor Swift who probably fucks Karlie Kloss and Cara dated Michelle Rodriguez who dated Kristana Loken and all these women have been your waifus at one point in time

>>79664913
I don't see how this is remotely a problem that you should be concerned with.

And once again "all of a sudden".

Educate yourself on homosexuality. It's embarrassing and difficult to have a proper discussion with you.

>>79665019
Allow me to have an opinion on specific people. That person doesn't trigger pure gayness gaydars easily. She doesn't even give the impression of strong bisexualism to be perfectly honest.

>>79664941

gay people with actual social lives usually feel pressure to live a straight lifestyle

>>79664908
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristen_Stewart#Filmography

Her career died pretty much once the Twilight series stopped filming in 2012, it's all just mumblecore indies

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>>79664941
Why do lesbians have such strange taste in women? I don't mean this in a mean way, but why do you guys seem really into tattoos, flanel and pixie cuts?

>>79664066
People have been saying Page and Stewart are gay/waiting for them to come out for fucking years, bro.

Like ask any gay person who pays attention to entertainment media. We all thought they were rugmunchers.

>>79665072
You are literally a baby in this aren't you? You are not talking with a homophobe. I'm saying those people are hypocritical cunts that take away the culture of actually gay people for personal financial and professional gain.

>>79665079
>gay people with actual social lives usually feel pressure to live a straight lifestyle

To be fair the last time gay men were left to their own devices they pretty much wiped their own community out with AIDS

>>79665055
Most 4chan boards have had lesbian waifus.

>>79663676
lesbianism is a meme, anon. only men are capable of real, complete faggotry

>>79665152

God's way of saying lesbians are pure.

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>>79665055
>having Cara as your waifu

Y tho?

>>79665178
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_bed_death

It's funny that there's no sort of middle ground, it's either fuck like frenzied rabbits or don't fuck at all

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>>79664941
Who's your waifu now?

>>79663676
tl:dr

a more logical explanation is that they have been subjected to so many casting couches that they are disgusted by men now. sure it was there choice but it doesnt mean they werent exploited

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>>79665091
Plenty of those indies were good.

>>79665091
I think it's less her career died, and more she has the ability to pick and choose whatever scripts she wants to do since Twilight.

Like, of the two Stewart has basically been working non stop. Page is the one whose career is mostly dead in the water.

>>79665306
Good or not, her mainstream career was dead long before she came out or was in paparazzi shots with sexually-ambiguous women

>>79663769
>a very small minority of them come out as gay compared to women.

because men coming out is less common
if anything there's probably a lot more faggots in Hollywood than dykes

>>79663817
she is so fucking pretty
what a waste

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>>79665129
>People have been saying Page and Stewart are gay/waiting for them to come out for fucking years, bro
They say this about literally everyone, they're bound to be right sometimes.

>>79665237
>women want to have sex less often than men
>male scientists think this is bad and name it a "bed death"
>men who only read the title of articles think lesbians dont have sex at all

hmm really made me think

>people who pretend to be others for a living have serious identity issues

>>79665393
>me in the back

>>79665197

I like her personality

chloe moretz and victoria justice are next

go and and cap this post if you need to

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>>79665422
>tfw no cara to lick her feet while she fucks your wife

>>79665503
a girl in clown makeup looks better than a top model without makeup

really makes you think

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>tfw you waifed heard, kstew and cara and they're all bi

What's going on???

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>>79665337
She's a massive hipster and prefers starring in indie or Assayas shit. She can live comfortably off that Rwillight money for the rest of her life.

>implying they won't end up fucking miserable as all hell

happened to my 2 aunts. were super progressive lesbos and are now childless in their 40's. grandpappy is so desperate now that he calls my dad all the time to hang out with me and my brothers after he ignored us for years.

>>79665397
>male sexual release means ejaculating your sperm and dominating someone
>female sexual release means taking something from a man using your holes
see, unlike male sexuality, the female one is actually entire contingent of a male participant.

>b-but you have to read the feminazi shilling dismissing it as a patriarchy meme
yeah nah

>>79665074
Okay. I don't agree with that or really think it matters, but okay.

>>79665091
You're assuming that everyone found out about KStew coming out at the same time. The hollywood execs and other big names in that community likely knew for a while.

>>79665137
I never called you a homophobe. I did call you ignorant.

I don't agree with your statements because coming out has not gained them any more money. Acting and staring in huge blockbusters is a sure way to make millions. Coming out as gay has not helped their acting careers in any way.

Of the two women in the OP, one is an activist, the other stars in indie films (and rarely too). Their financial gain has dropped since coming out.

Also, you are assuming that they didn't always want to come out. If they were in the closet, who are you to determine their reasons for coming out?

>>79665571

honestly the most sad thing about that post is its coming from a man and thats what you think male sexuality is

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>>79665422
>I like her personality
Her quirckiness feels really forced sometimes.

>>79663769
>but a very small minority of them come out as gay
Just because they don't come out doesn't mean they aren't gay. Gay men are still stigmatized way more than gay women, and it would hurt someone like Tom Cruise's brand with housewives in the rust belt if he came out. But there's definitely a disproportionate amount of closeted gay actors in Hollywood.

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>>79665481
For some reason I find Daddario to be just ok but I can understand why someone would like her lot.

Also Eva is great and the only lesbian rumors I found of her was that one time she called herself a lesbian pedophile for fun in a interview.

>>79665571
>Dominating someone

Toxic masculinity. Pls leave. If that's what you think sex is about, you're a part of the problem. I assume you don't see women as equals either, do you?

>>79664524
>Give me a fucking break though that Kirsten Stewart is purely gay.
lol Kristen Stewart is openly bi, not "purely gay" you dipshit.

>>79663676
tl;dr

>>79665701
Shit meant for>>79665485

>itt: underage virgins who are somehow experts in human sexuality particularly that of women

this thread is embarrassing

OP is clinically retarded

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>>79665595
>the two women in the OP, one is an activist, the other stars in indie films (and rarely too).
She stars in a lot of films actually.

>>79665627
>>79665709
>physical domination is not an aspect of male sexuality
top wew

>>79665693
Although I totally agree with you. I don't think that gay men are sigmatized "way more" than gay women. I think the stigma is just different for both.

With men, you have the machismo hypermasculine attitudes you have to portray. So gay man go against that and you have huge stigma. You can call it "visible" or "regular" stigma.

With gay women, their stigma often comes in the form of fetishization. It's not that they're actually accepted, it's just that it's "hot" or not see of as big a deal because it's "women".

So ya, I agree with you, but I think there is still quite a lot of stigma.

>>79665754
naw, underage virgins would be like KEKEKEK and post a picture of that frog making that face

OP is clearly a mid 30 yo neckbeard virgin

>>79665391
Why? She's gonna stay pure, so that's okay.

>>79663879
you just KNOW

>>79665565
>happened to my 2 aunts
>2 aunts

How does that happen? I might understand with twins, but I think any instance where there's multiple gay kids it's pretty clear someone's been molesting them

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>>79663676

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>>79665792
It is if you're mentally disturbed fuck

>>79663676
or it's because it was such a stigma in the past that people preferred to stay in the closet and now when it's become more acceptable people have begun revealing their sexual identities

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>>79665709
Lol @ you, straight women without mental problems/history of abuse get off on light domination; being pinned down, ´physically restrained, held tight etc.

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>>79665921
Homosexuality can be genetic

>>79665921
the chances of your kid being gay increases for each child you have, this is a documented statistical fact

>>79666022
the ashtray half cut off on that one frame is triggering me

>>79665921
I actually know a few people who are gay with a sibling who is gay as well. It's just something that happens even in a loving, nuclear household .

>>79666040
Are you unable to uncouple "physical domination" with the trust needed to have any proper bdsm in a relationship?

You know this is why people that are actually into BDSM didn't like 50 shades of grey right? Aside from the poor writing and shitty movie, it was actually physically abusive and sexist. Actual bdsm relationships are about trust, not about dominating.

And any "sub" you encounter will tell you that they can spot a shitty "dom" a mile away when they act like they are going to "dominate" you and make you "their bitch".

>>79666063
damn jared leto looking good

>>79665921
My male friend who is bi has red hair and green eyes. He also has a lesbian sister with the same appearance. His two other older sisters have brown hair and brown eyes and are straight. Genetics seems to play a factor.

>>79665485
fwiw I'm a lesbian who doesn't understand women who are attracted to butch lesbians, or overly many/androgynous lesbians.

Like if I wanted to fuck a man I would fuck a man. I want to fuck a woman.

>>79666196
>Actual bdsm relationships are about trust, not about dominating.
Most people into BDSM are genuine nutcases.

>>79666022
>women are attracted to dominant men
so women being mentally ill confirmed?

My guess is the cocaine. Doing too much coke makes you want to orgy fuck everything and next thing you know you got your head in some other chick's box.

Also being sexually abused by men at an early or formative age can cause someone to be a lesbian.

Also there may have always been that many. This was just the first time where you could admit it and it not hurt the career. In the 80s when it was less acceptible they all claimed they were "bisexual". Now-Straight people like Christian Slater, Robert Downey Jr, Johnny Depp all self-identified as Bi back in the day.

>>79664276
I think the gays still like to say bi people are gays in denial.

>>79666453
Some do, and it's not just gay men who think that. I know plenty of people that I believe have legitimate interest in both men and women.

>>79666196
Real BDSM is a freaky fetish for headcases, I don't want to dress up in sillyass outfits like LARP autists, tie people up with ropes spank them with tools and shit.

Light domination is as vanilla as it gets, you're literally just being a little rough with her.

I think women like it because it makes them feel more feminine and desireable.

>>79665120
Hey, I like women with tattoos and pixie cuts.

>>79664963
I dated a woman who had insisted for a long time that she was a lesbian. Afterwards she settled on declaring that she was 'queer.' She's married with a kid now, still claims that, but not around her husband. Women can be so fucking tedious.

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>>79666748
I never said there was anything wrong with that, it's just that you have shit taste.

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>>79666831
Really? So you'd kick this woman out of your bed?

>>79666748
I like women who wet themselves when they get excited.

>>79666878
Sounds fun, if damp

>>79663676
These women are praised on social media but being a public lesbo still poisons a box office career. Ellen Paige and Kristen Stewart have both been doing nothing but indie shit and artsy crap for at least 4 years, give or take.

Lesbians are not scene as appealing because people in Middle America don't care for it. Hence why Black Widow or Scarlet Witch aren't Lesbos.

>>79663676
The truth OP is once they are past their ingenue phase, what else is there for them?
Any man rich and powerful enough to attract them can get younger women that don't have all the mileage and attitude.

>>79666920
I like you!

>>79667031
Your gf can pee on me anytime anon <3

anyone have the gif or webm of kstew slurping the green jellow?

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>>79666874
>shitty face piercing
>pink tattoo
>cartoon character tattoo

At least kstew has good taste in women

>>79667099
Jesus, kstew looks like a schoolboy with a heroin problem

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>>79667249
She's a total qt, shut up

>>79667099
>druggie schoolboy
>frizzy-haired fashion disaster
I thought lesbians were supposed to be cool

>>79663676
all women are bi though

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>>79666281
>who doesn't understand women who are attracted to butch lesbians, or overly many/androgynous lesbians.

They want secretly want the D.

>>79663676

>plenty of evidence that shows it's a meme.

Heterosexuality is the meme. We aren't supposed to hate pleasure. It's just a social construct.

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>>79667352
>I thought lesbians were supposed to be cool
Nobody thinks that though

>>79667075
My last girlfriend used to do that every now and then. It was great. Unfortunately things didn't work out. She's single now though, so, in theory there's a chance for you. Good luck.

Mods, delete this thread pls.

>>79667397
Well, lesbians probably do. Is that kstew on the left? Does she still wash her hair?

>>79667455
Thanks anon, you too

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>>79667530
don't be a cunt. Lesbians are awesome.

>>79667590
I appreciate that but right now I'm at that point where I really don't mind being single.

>>79663676
>Whenever anyone comes out their popularity goes about 100X for that day, and about 4X in the midterm and generally they get a boost. It's a synonym for success, especially for women.

You what? Coming out killed Ellen's career.

>>79664066
>Honestly, who seriously gets a *pure* gaydar out of those two.
Me, since fucking ten years ago. Just because you don't believe attractive lesbians exist doesn't mean anyone with an actual brain agrees with you.

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>>79667605
>Lesbians are awesome.

>>79664128
Laughable, have you ever even met a gay person? Most of them date or at least hook up with a number of people of the opposite sex before realizing that they're gay.

>>79667698
i disagree

her innocent youthful looks faded with her career. shes a terrible actress that needed depended on it to get roles

>>79667605
IF she's really a lesbian she's still in the closet though... theoretically. But well, I think that Joe Jonas-stunt was wayyy to obvious and those pics in which she makes out with girls have been out there for years now. So I guess she's only "half-closeted".

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>>79667787
Please post more young kstew

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>>79667993

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>>79667737
What set off your special gaydar with kstew?

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>>79667800
>Most of them date or at least hook up with a number of people of the opposite sex before realizing that they're gay.
No they don't, gay men rarely do this, it's more common with lesbians but they're still a minority

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>>79668028

>>79668028
Aw, she looks like a greasy young heroin addict

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>>79667590
It is kstew, with her new gf Stella Maxwell (who used to date Miley Cyrus)

>>79667993
Reported for posting young KStew

>>79667873
>that Joe Jonas-stunt was wayyy to obvious
I haven't been following any news about her but what was the deal there?

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>>79668226
That pic was 26-year old kstew, though

>>79664084
There are a number of reasons for that you know. socio-economics reasons; if you are gay and educated, if you want to open a florist shop or if you are an artist you go to LA or if you want to open a bed and breakfast and you don't the weather in Vermont you go to California. See reasons.

>>79666063
Kristen looks dangerously like my obscure waifu in this photo.

>>79668626
Chrissie Hynde?

>>79668713
Obscurer. And younger.

>>79664911
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>>79666063
This woman got to kiss 15-year-old Dakota Fanning! Life's so unfair...

>>79668748
Hmmm... one could also argue that she looks a bit like a younger Charlotte Gainsbourg there. But she's not obscure at all either.

>>79664809
Maybe Kristen and Ellen come out after they lost hope of making it on the mainstream again. If they couldn't be A-listers, what was the point of hiding it?

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>>79667993
HIGHWAY TO THE DANGERZONE

>>79668881
She wasn't gaolbait anymore at that point!

im going to marry kstew

>>79668967
TITS OR GTFO!

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>>79664418
she is so handsome. i really like her hair

>>79664699
>swnpybp

>>79663676
Not a very good looking bunch.