/who/ - Doctor Who General

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>>79626715
Not posting the cube version

Say goodbye.

https://youtu.be/jRkqlpZeGq8

>>79626779
Why did I buy this? Completely fallen apart.

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>>79626779
best version coming through

>>79626956
Say hello.

To Gareth.

>series 9 is best series
>series 9 is great series
With respect, this meme seriously needs to stop. If Capaldi didnt exist this series would be "show-cancelling" tier.

vote!
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>>79627027
>best version
>not this

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>>79627027
I like this one. Wish they released it again with 1-9 just without the horrendous bluray upscales.

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>>79627217
/who/ is always retarded about the most recent series. pic related

>>79627451
>series 8 are higher than series 1
>series 3 is in bottom 4

Just no.

>>79627451
>Mummy is the 6th best episode of all time
lol

>>79627555
I could say something lewd here but I'm not gonna.

>>79627722
People were so desperate for a good episode in Capaldi's run than they forced actually the only good one to the pantheon of the GOATs.

>>79627217
>series 9 is worst series
>series 9 is bad series
With respect, this meme seriously needs to stop. If Tennant was in it you'd be licking its balls.

>>79627779
Listen was better though.

>>79627831
Series 9 isn't worst. Series 7 exists, Series 6b exists.
And I believe Capaldi is a better actor than Tennant.

>>79627217
>this series would be "show-cancelling" tier.
gr8 b8

>the complete first series
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>79627555
>that cheeky glint in her eyes.
>you just know

>>79627451
my favourite episode isn't in the top 10 and my second favourite isn't in the top 20 wtf

>>79628050
whats your favorite?

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>Eruditorum Press is shitposting general
>Vox Day's PR firm burned down the server
>Doctor Who is on indefinite hiatus
>Peter Capaldi to be replaced by another straight cis white man
>Phil Sandifer photographed exchanging money with Michael Grade
>James Murphy's on-podcast breakdown jeopardizing production
>Pex Lives studios have been empty for months
>BBC Books no longer accepting submissions
>Sandifer confirmed that Titan Comics "wasn't interested" in his pitch for a Susan Foreman comic
>Jane Campbell has been in the hospital for two months, no contact with the media
>Josh Marsfelder currently under investigation following Garfield overanalysis
>Kit Power cut from the guest post roster
>Mark Gatiss and Eliezer Yudkowsky have "exciting announcement" for November
>Sandifer and Jill Buratto currently undergoing "trial separation"
>Jack Graham 14-minute Marxist tirade recorded in a Tescos checkout line
>Rumors swirling about Josh Marsfelder's "transition"
>Steven Moffat retirement announcement imminent
>Kevin Burns silently suffering from cancer of the larynx
>Anna Wiggins "hasn't come out of the basement in months" according to family members
>"TARDIS Eruditorum was a mistake. It's nothing but trash," says Sandifer on a Christmas Shabcast
>Holly Boson plagiarism accusations made by Chameleon Circuit
>Gareth Roberts recently hired by BBC to "political adviser" position
>Shana Wolstein has "critical sexual health announcement" to make
>Urn containing John Hurt's ashes has gone missing
>Daniel Harper releases 15 minute video about women's rights
>Jack Graham signs non-compete with Labour Party, will not write for Eruditorum Press for 5 years
>Larry Miles admitted for three-day "psychiatric observation" after being detained outside Phil Sandifer's home with "a motley collection of bone implements"
>Ex-wife tell-all in the works, "Phil Sandifer qlippothed and used me!"
>Peter Harness suffering from late-stage thorax cancer

It's over, Eruditorum Press, we're finished.

>>79628391
A simple "bump" would have sufficed.

>>79628391
>>Sandifer confirmed that Titan Comics "wasn't interested" in his pitch for a Susan Foreman comic
This one is actually true kek

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Maybe we'll get to hear the S9 soundtrack someday... just maybe...

>>79628391
>/who/ is kill
>Eruditorum Press is kill
Hold me bros

>>79628513
Beeb is winding down the merch and marketing for Doctor Who. It wont last more than a couple more series. The 50th fucked them over hardcore.

>>79629338
>the 50th

I think you mean the 8th anniversary special.

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>>79628513
How much longer can it be?

https://twitter.com/DWPageOFFICIAL/status/833730621797257216

Literally the WORST name for a villain ever. Worse than 'spoonhead'.

Why didn't they just call them the motobots, or the motodroids?

>>79630141
It's not bad in my opinion.

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>>79630141
>It's real

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REMINDING YOU EVERY THREAD

>>79630141
It's a good name, fuck off.

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>>79630423
THE ERA OF MOMMY WHO

>>79630141
I mean, it literally describes what they are. But in general I feel like it's a year too late to parody/horror-ify emoji anyway.

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Look at them. Take a deep, long look.

Probably one of the last time you'll ever see them ;_;

>>79630660
>year too late to parody/horror-ify emoji
what?

>>79630686
literally crying rn
bring back moffat

>>79630651
I just want to fuck Eva Green for 24/7, is that too much to ask? Just tell me.

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>>79630775
She wants you to use your screwingdriver in her datacore

>>79630141
I always assumed the picture of the emojibot with an emoji face was shooped, is that real as well?

>>79630941
Absolutely kekkery.

>>79630907
no its obviously shopped
pretty good one though i'll admit

>>79630686
JUST

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>tfw you have a GOAT series about to air and you know everyone is going to miss you when you leave and the show is going to get cancelled because chibnall is a lazy fuck who can't do his job and bbc will beg you to come back and save the show but you tell them to fuck off and deal with it yourselves while you work on your next tintin film

Christel from the Fan Show ate me out in a nightclub in Cardiff two weeks ago

Ask me anything

>>79631600
Lies unless you're a woman.

>>79631649
How does a man get eaten out?

>>79631697
His ass.

>>79627867

Obviously not.

>>79631808
It was.

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So did the War Doctor actually....fight? You know, like blow shit up and destroy Daleks? I remember it being said a long time ago that the Doctor led the Time Lords into battle, but then in Heaven Sent they say he was always unarmed.

>>79631600
Any details?

>>79631940
my headcanon for as much as it matters is that the young War Doctor, or "Warrior", did fight in the war rather viciously. All the horrible things he does, leading people into battle, the oncoming storm etc. but hardened as the war kept going and going and going.

The War Doctor we see in the 50th seems very weary. I doubt he was like that the entire time.

>>79631940

Seems like that got retconned.

He doesn't even fight in the Big Finish audios.

>>79631940
you can fight without weapons
that makes him scarier imo
the fact that he didn't need to use them means he probably had even worse ways of doing things.

>>79632082
but what the fuck would that even be

>>79631940
He would just frown at a Dalek and they would die of fright

>>79631940
>I remember it being said a long time ago that the Doctor led the Time Lords into battle,

It was also said that the end of the Time War was incomphrensible and the Time Lords had become just as warlike and horrific as the Daleks. Yet in the 50th we see them pew pewing at eachother and lots of time lord kiddies running around in market squares with very reasonable and well measured commanders.

Moffat neutered the Time War.

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>>79632082
Define fighting.
I cant imagine whatever you are talking about. How did he fight? With his intelligence? Isn't he fighting all the time then?

>>79632141
>Moffat neutered the Time War.

Not even a Moffat hater, but there is much truth in this post. Maybe the Time War was just way better in my imagination.

>>79630141
If it's just a nickname Bill makes up for them then it'll be fine

>>79626050
I loved the stuff in the first series 1 episode with Clive and the internet conspiracy around the Doctor. Worked perfectly after the hiatus - really sold the Doctor's mysterious and spooky side for new viewers.

>>79632141
>>79632194
>Moffat neutered the Time War
It was been established that it was a different faction of Time Lords.

>>79632394
Explain

>>79632194
There's actually an interview with Moffat during like Series 5 when he says he thinks if they show The Time War on TV it would be disappointing like The Clones War. Not sure why he changed his mind. I guess he wanted the thing with the painting. It was kind of cool in the theater I guess.

>>79632194
I agree.
For a decade we knew next to nothing about the Time War. We'd hear vague statements from the Doctor — that he burned Gallifrey, that he faced names that invoked a sense of horror, a sense of mystery, and a sense of Machiavellian, Lovecraftian terror (Nightmare Child, Could've Been King, Meanwhiles and Neverweres and the Skaro Degradations).

And in our heads, in a cloud of mystery, it was so much better. But then the 50th comes along, and Moffat has only so much to play with, so of course he's gonna pick the Time War, and he can't get Chris back, so he creates a man who actually fought in the War, and he centers the episode around it. But it's like losing your virginity. Sex is great, but it's never as good as you thought it was gonna be as a horny teenager jacking off three times a day. What it was in your mind was way better.

And do you know what the most ironic thing of all is? Moffat's era is the Fairy Tale era, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, but the man who wrote fairy tales told a story about one of the most mystical, most unequivocal facts of the Whoniverse, and he made it corporeal, real, and solid.

>>79630686
I wish, we'll never get rid of Gatiss.

>>79632737
>Sex is great, but it's never as good as you thought it was gonna be
I never understand why people say this. Agreed with everything else though.

>>79632929
Maybe your libido was lower than mine. At least you get the comparison

War saved Gallifrey, then regenerated.

10 saved Gallifrey, then went to his regeneration story.

11 saved Gallifrey, then went to his regeneration story.

Prediction: Series 10 episode 12 will end with Capaldi's eye shot from the 50th

Run like hell because you always need to
Laugh at everything, because it's always funny

>>79632141
>Moffat neutered the Time War.
As with so much else, he was just ripping off the EDAs.

In Alien Bodies, physical battles are irrelevant, because the war has shifted to conceptual grounds, and it's all about establishing one version of the other of the Web of Time as the cultural process of history for the universe's inhabitants.

In Interference and Dead Romance, the War involves force-regenerating soldiers to turn them into unkillable spiky monsters to win battles. Kinda cool, but not at all what we were promised.

In The Ancestor Cell, the War is basically The Invasion of Time, except the Doctor can't actually stop it this time, he's just got a big button that he can use to destroy the planet and wipe out all three factions.

The War Doctor was a mistake.

>>79633181
Of course RTD's initial vision of the Time War wasn't as cool as Miles' initial vision, and Moffat's final version wasn't even as cool as Cole & Anghelides' final version.

He could have at least shown us that the Dalek assault on Gallifrey's present opened the door for them to assault Gallifrey's history by having the founders of the Time Lords vanish from memory one by one, changing the Panopticon geometry as they do so, so it's still worthy of being called a "time" war.

>>79633483
That's why he's dead.

All mistakes need to be erased

>>79627451
>Tennant so low
btfo Tennfags

I used to spend a lot of time here a couple of years ago. I left around halfway through S9. Good to see that this place is still up and running. Have I missed any major events in /who/ history?

>>79633483
Nah, he wasn't.

I've never watched a Troughton story. What do you guys recommend?

>>79633820
Frank Offerino made an appearance in DWM.

>>79633867
Start with Power of the Daleks (any recon other than the shitty sub-newgrounds tier animation)
I recommend the Audio version narrated by Tom Baker as the Curator.

And then watch/read every episode until the War Games.

>>79633820
Cats got BTFO by Adam
/who/ got noticed by Gareth Roberts
Cloister got a new trip
Immigrant hates gay people
We made new a fanfic
Hayley Atwell is the new Doctor

The End of Time would have been a lot better if the mystery woman was Susan.

>>79633960
Story behind Gareth Roberts noticing /who/?

>Jon Pertwee will never be your Granddad

>>79634046
The End of Time would have been a lot better without the flying cgi skeleton man

I need some help guys..

What are the most essential must-own Classic Who dvds? Just bought Power of the Daleks the other day, loved it. I also own City of Death. Other than that, all i have is NuWho sets.

>>79634106
Just torrent them all. bonus material included

>>79634069
Someone drew him a picture and sent it to him on Twitter.

He have /who/ "big love" but declined a visit.

He said he "doesn't do forums". Which is sad...

...But That's Gareth!

>>79633867
The Power of the Daleks animation is a decent place to start.
Enemy of the World is good but drags a bit near the end.
The Moonbase is a good base under siege story. With some iconic Cyberman moments

>>79633867
Mind Robber
The Invasion
Power of the Daleks
Tomb of the Cybermen
The War Games

Power and part of Invasion are missing, so you have to be able to tolerate either crappy animation or telesnap recons.

Your sensitivity to padding will also affect Invasion and War Games. At least Invasion's padding is mostly fun stuff that's different from most other classic Who, but War Games is traditional padding, and a huge amount of it. If you can put up with that, the rest of the story is brilliant.

>>79634106
Inferno, Curse of Fenric, Tomb of the Cybermen

>>79634106
Genesis of the Daleks
'Bred for War' Sontaran Boxset - has Sarah Jane's first story and all the classic Sontaran stories
'The Beginning' boxset - includes An Unearthly Child, The Daleks, and The Edge of Destruction
The Five Doctors
The Three Doctors

>>79634072
>>Jon Pertwee will never be your Granddad
Yeah, especially after Sean got a restraining order stopping me from mailing him pics of my mom.

>>79634106
>essential must-own Classic Who dvds

Talons of Weng Chiang
Genesis of the Daleks
An Unearthly Child
Tomb of the Cybermen
Three Doctors
Five Doctors
Caves of Androzani

off the top of my head

>>79634202
The one thing that annoyed me about PotD was that they animated in in widescreen. Would people be really pissed off they had to deal with black bars? I don't think people buying classic who are normies so what's the deal?

>>79634106
Someone just posted /who/'s rankings of every story ever up-thread. For the most part, the best stories are the best DVDs. Some of the bonus features are cool, but I can't think of any that are good enough to elevate a mediocre story to a must-buy DVD.

>>79634247
>>79634253
>>79634297
these are all good

Has torrentfag updated his pastebin?

>>79634300
Everyone has widescreen TV's these days. Widescreen doesn't really have any downsides,a dn gives the whole thing more scale.

>>79634106
Really hope you're not American, man. Half of the DVDs are out of print and expensive as fuck.

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>>79634106
Meglos is the only DVD you should be owning.

You should own books too.
Zamper
The Highest Science
Tragedy Day

I have taken care in devising this list. You may say I am a Caretaker of sorts.

>>79634147
>Just torrent them all. bonus material included
Is there a megatorrent that includes the DVDs released since 2011, or do you still need to get them separately after getting the old torrent?

>>79634499
Why are you so embarrassed by your MAs? Honestly, you did a great job capturing Four and Romana and the general feel of City of Death, even if the plots aren't as good as your NAs and there aren't enough turtle people.

>>79633089
The way he said "No sir," never really seemed like 12 to me.

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>>79634499
hmmm....

>>79634598
Some random time lord said that though, not 12. Or am I missing something?

>>79634106
The Beginning, Tenth Planet, Enemy of the World, Shada, Remembrance of the Daleks, the Movie.

>>79634598
It wasn't Twelve who said that.

>>79633168
This scene was great and would have been the best regeneration scene if it ended that way

if you don't like Hell Bent fuck you
the only bad part was when Clara and Me got their own TARDIS

When did you realize that Moffat can only write one sort of Doctor with one sort of tone?

For me it was when Capaldi called that dinoasaur a big sexy woman.

>>79634759
that was post regeneration trauma though

>>79634733
They actually edited the next time trailer for Hell Bent to make it look like it was a regeneration scene

>>79634648
>>79634659
Holy shit, I never had any clue. I'm so sorry, now I feel like an idiot.

Kinda weird that they wouldn't give him any dialogue, though. I just assumed that it was him because the camera was on him, but I always wondered why his voice sounded different.

The Doctor hasn't died outside out of the TARDIS since the 8th Doctor. Why not?

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>>79627217
Everyone knows Series 1 is best series anyway

>>79634776
>post regeneration trauma though
Unironically, "post regeneration trauma" was a great cover story for "we never know how to write the Doctor properly in his first episode because we haven't yet seen what how he pulls off different scenes".

>>79634733
this desu

>>79633960
>Cats got BTFO by Adam
>Immigrant hates gay people

This post has given you out.

>>79634880
Because that's how it's supposed to be, according to the Second Doctor.
Every regeneration outside of the TARDIS had to be induced by a third party.

>>79634880
>The Doctor hasn't died outside out of the TARDIS since the 8th Doctor. Why not?
He just needs to go to America more. Seven got shot and died outside the TARDIS there. Eleven got shot and died outside the TARDIS there but it turned out to be a ruse. If you want to get shot and die outside your home, you go to America.

>>79627217
>opinions are memes meme
This meme needs to die.

>>79634880
Because New Who is incredibly formulaic and they're always scared to try something different.

I wish they just let 11 regenerate as an old man on top of the tower and have Clara discover 12 in the TARDIS. Hope 12 goes out differently. Maybe they could have him regenerate as he's walking or crawling towards the TARDIS.

>>79634903
They overdo the post-regeneration stuff in New Who to the point where it becomes insufferable. Was good in Eleventh Hour though.

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>ywn have chips with christopher eccleston in full ninth doctor attire

>>79634991
Do you think he ever accidentally put on an outfit vaguely resembling Nine's and was just pissed off all day?

>>79634991
>>ywn have chips with christopher eccleston in full ninth doctor attire
That's what you think. Me and David Walliams already have the costume ready for when we kidnap him. And we've got the whole crime planned out, a kind of Jules Verne, Edgar Rice, Burroughs story of derring-do, which I've always loved.

>>79635045
kek

>>79635045
>Do you think he ever accidentally put on an outfit vaguely resembling Nine's and was just pissed off all day?
If that ever happened, he'd marry a PETA spokeswoman to make sure he never accidentally came near anything made of leather again.

>>79635045
based Eccleston

do you think he'll ever return to the role? or just die knowing how he'll be known as 'the doctor you can just skip'

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>>79634991
>ywn sip lemonade and go 'the long way round' in Clara and Ashildr's lesbian diner-dungeon for all eternity

>>79634977
Except every time he regenerates in his TARDIS he crashes it so what even is the point
I do not want another regeneration where the Doctor's first words are "ooh *new body part* uh oh can't fly the TARDIS lol"

Wouldn't Mummy on the Orient Express be a GOAT regeneration story? Say the Mummy has chosen Clara as the next victim, there's no way out. Except if someone's willing to die quicker. The Doctor shoots himself and starts regenerating: the mummy senses his sickness and targets him. While dying and slowly regenerating in 66 seconds, the Doctor saves Clara by finding out what the mummy is and stopping it. Everyone is safe, except the Doctor who's now in the final stage of regeneration. A quick goodbye to Clara and... the new one comes springing.

>>79635101
A while back he DID say that he "wanted to be remembered as one of the Doctors" or something.
But it was probably just to get people off his back. Maybe he'll spend the last of his Thor 2 money soon and begrudginly do one Big Finish story.

>>79635086
>If that ever happened, he'd marry a PETA spokeswoman to make sure he never accidentally came near anything made of leather again.
Well, there has to be a reason he divorced his wife, the mother of his children, last year.

>>79635127
11: Legs! I've still got legs!
11: I'm...CRASHING!

12: Kidneys! I've got new kidneys!
12: We're probably crashing!

kek

>>79635127
>I do not want another regeneration where the Doctor's first words are "ooh *new body part* uh oh can't fly the TARDIS lol"
Couldn't agree more with this.
I REALLY hope they go back to the subtle changes with this new regeneration cycle. Eleven blowing up the ship was massive and destructive, but the actual change to Twelve was a quick flash.

>>79635185
>But it was probably just to get people off his back. Maybe he'll spend the last of his Thor 2 money soon and begrudginly do one Big Finish story.
It'll be one of those multi-companion stories, where Rose and Jack go off and have an adventure where they run into Turlough and Tegan, and Five has only one line at the start and Nine only one line at the end, and he'll record his line over the phone from Hollywood, and people will still get excited over it.

>>79631431
Seriously, why is slowpoke Chibnall the new showruiner and not Gatiss who would jump on the show like a fly on shit?

>>79635275
What I really want is a mid-adventure regeneration, where there's no time for a farewell tour or anything because the Doctor was halfway through his plan to stop the whoevers' evil plan and the clock is still ticking, so we get to see how the new Doctor is different by watching how the same plan changes with a new Doctor in charge.

>>79635413
>Seriously, why is slowpoke Chibnall the new showruiner and not Gatiss who would jump on the show like a fly on shit?
Because Gatiss can't cast himself as the Doctor, but Chibs can cast him.

>>79635413
I honestly think he has been given the chance already and declined.

>>79635474
That would be rad, but kind of a disservice to the previous Doctor if he doesn't get to finish it.
It could be done as a surprise two-parter, where the Doctor solves the problem in one time period, regenerates, and then has to fight the threat in another time period right after as a new man.
They could do a mid-story Master regeneration though. It'd be cool to see how his evil plan changes from man to man.

>>79635474
They probably wouldn't do that in the new series, lots of people would feel cheated that their Doctor didn't get an emotional goodbye

tbqh I was annoyed when Smith regenerated on the clock tower because I was gearing up for a good cry and I nearly didn't get one

>>79634901
>Burn the entire budget on that one episode
>Manage to make an entire series of kino anyway
Truly Series 1 was goat.

>>79633820
We discovered that Cloister is 59 years old and won't live to see the next anniversary, he's also a misogynist and thinks everyone who liked class was a faggot.

>>79635894
>everyone who liked class was a faggot
pretty accurate desu

>>79635643
>That would be rad, but kind of a disservice to the previous Doctor if he doesn't get to finish it.
If he gets to come up with the plan and do a truly heroic sacrifice in the middle of it, I don't think people would see it as a disservice. (Obviously it depends on how well it's written and acted, but that's always true.)

>It could be done as a surprise two-parter, where the Doctor solves the problem in one time period, regenerates, and then has to fight the threat in another time period right after as a new man.
You've not only improved my idea, you've just written the best cliffhanger of NuWho.

>They could do a mid-story Master regeneration though. It'd be cool to see how his evil plan changes from man to man.
Actually, I got the idea from the fact that First Frontier was originally going to do that, until he decided that making the Master a surprise was more important, so there was no room to have Ace shoot him in the middle of his plan and see him adapting it.

>>79635655
>They probably wouldn't do that in the new series, lots of people would feel cheated that their Doctor didn't get an emotional goodbye
I think those kinds of fans got more catharsis out of Eleven's postmortem phone call to Clara than his actual goodbye. Especially since they'd already done the whole "farewell tour" thing for his fake death and couldn't do it again for the real one. And there are lots of other ideas they could use to give 12 (or whoever) his emotional sendoff.

>>79633820
No new memes, S9 was GOAT, Moff is leaving and we're get Chibs instead, Cloister had some troubles and got a new trip, Immigrant has internalised homophobia, Cats is gone (thank god/RIP/whatever)

>>79636199
>s9 was GOAT

stop this meme
now

>>79627364
Unf. I hope they release more like this.

>>79636229
it's not a meme

>>79636267
It is.

>>79636289
seek help

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>>79636253
they did one for s9 last year.
i think it might be the same artist? idunno.

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>>79627364
>>79636253
>UK exclusive
>Series 2-4 Blu-Rays cancelled for no reason
This is starting to feel personal.

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>>79636229
nice meme
s9 was GOAT. the only shit episodes were sleep no more and woman who lived.
rest was good to GOAT.

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ARE YOU READY?

>>79636386
HYPE
Y
P
E

>>79636394
>Hell Bent
>Good

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>79636449
Not the fucking Weeping Angels again? They were fine the first couple of times but Christ I'm glad Moffat's leaving. He runs everything good into the ground, look at the last season of Sherlock.

>>79636474
it's the best finale

>>79636501
it's a fake poster
i wouldnt be surprised if they returned though

Reminder that even though this had nothing to do in Doctor Who, it was a good, powerful, emotional and sad scene.

https://youtu.be/5wdj16x6LYc

>>79636501
>look at the last season of Sherlock.
It was the best since Season 1?

>>79636556
>even though this had nothing to do in Doctor Who
what? it was in the series 2 finale.
also why do people hate series 2? there were no bad episodes.

>>79636523
B8

>>79636590
>facts are bait

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>>79636342
I'm hyped for the 6th Doctor bluray!

>>79636556
I think that it had everything to do with Doctor Who.

You take a man who's spent his entire life travelling, being a bohemian who never really had a place to settle down. Finally, he finds the greatest staple of settlement — a woman. But he, physically, can never have that sort of a life, and as he goes on with her, he puts himself under the delusion that he might just be able to have it. Here, he realizes that he never really can, and we move on from a romance that essentially only lasted for one series. Sure, it reverberated beyond that one series, but it was still short-lived and shouldn't be moaned about as being "not Doctor Who."

>>79636585
>what? it was in the series 2 finale.
He means it had no place on Doctor Who

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>>79636501
>Never found Weeping Angels scary to begin with
>Oh look it's another fucking episode dedicated to quick cuts, scare chords and inconsistent rules

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>>79636655
>>79636694

> "I—I love you!"

Quit hating it just because a pretty girl will never say it to you. I've resigned myself to my loneliness but I don't resent the Doctor for not being an ugly like me.

Reminder she had the best theme. I'm not baiting, she really did.

https://youtu.be/hkh1hWLtOdg

>>79636734
10 was an ugly on the inside.

series 2 is the best series of doctor who
prove me wrong
every single episode was good

>>79636394
Witch Familiar / Sorcerer Apprentice were highly mediocre.
If there's Michelle Gomez that doesnt mean that it's automatically good.
Davros parts were okay, but Moffat leaves too much questions.

UtL/BtF were fine siege under base episodes.
It loses miserably to impossible planet though.

Ashildr episodes were waste
The most boring and stupid writing of a immortal character. First part is better.

Zygon Inversion / Zygon Invasion
Except for the speech it's just bad writing honestly. Sontaran Strategem / Poison Sky tier. Did you like those episodes?

Sleep no More
Obligatory Gatiss episode, even slightly worse this time

Face the Raven
It was fine and pretty solid

Heaven Sent
Probably best episode of Moffat era

Hell Bent
Terrible mess, Moffat doesnt seem to care at all, Clara Who episode. Wasted Rassilon. Complete bollocks END OF DA UNIVERSE scene with Ashildr.

>>79636818
>Sorcerer Apprentice

>>79636694
It all turned out right in the end. She hooked up with Metacrisis-10, grew a new Tardis out of a lump of coral, traveled the galaxy as before and probably became immortal while Meta-10 somehow figured out how to use the time vortex to kickstart his regenerations again.

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>>79636801
>Fear Her was good
>New Earth was good

>>79636818
>If there's Michelle Gomez that doesnt mean that it's automatically good

Wrong.

>>79636852
>New Earth was good
New Earth is comfykino

>>79636852
fear her is okay, not bad
people overhate on it
the girl was really good in it

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>>79636852
>stealing my memes
>again

>>79636852
Fear Her had fun scene with TARDIS landing.

New Earth was bad, I kinda agree.

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>>79636896
>your memes

>>79636879
Billie Piper was sexy as hell in New Earth.

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>>79636929
That's my meme too. I literally made that picture too.

>>79636982
Memes are in the public domain. Get over it.

https://foolz.fireden.net/tv/thread/16187716/
Does that work for you?

>>79637032
Took your trip off again to pretend people support you, cats?

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>ywn settle down with princess jenna

>>79637067
Pretty girls are scary though. No thanks.

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>>79636917
>Fear Her had fun scene with TARDIS landing.
That was like 10 seconds though. Not good enough to make an episode.

>>79636879
It had some comfy moments but everything related to the sickness zombies was just annoyingly silly. I can tolerate a fair bit of silliness in Doctor Who but "having every disease in the universe turns you into basically a zombie and they can all be cured by mixing together a bunch of random chemicals" is too much.

>>79636893
desu I agree it's overhated, but it's still not good and I would not agree about the girl being good in it.

>>79636982
Sue me then, faget.

What do you use to listen to Big Finish?

>>79637237
Ears

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>>79637067
>>79637149
When will you accept that Hayley is the new hotness?

>>79637237
Headphones?

Did you know:

1) Cold Blood was originally meant to be much better, with more backstory, with a dinosaur, more Silurian city, and in the end it was just pretty much improvising based on a budget
2) The Lodger wasnt originally planned for s5, they needed a graphics-light episode because they ran out of money
3) Victory of the Daleks suffered alot from production hell

>>79637149
Is that thing glued to her forehead?

>>79637298
>>79637264
Probably should've specified that I meant something like an MP3 player, your phone, computer, etc.

>>79637301
>3) Victory of the Daleks suffered alot from production hell
Yes, Mark, I know it's hard to sit through telesnap recons, but if I wanted to rip off Power of the Daleks I'm pretty sure I would have watched the whole thing first instead of coming up with excuses not to.

>>79637301
>Cold Blood was originally meant to be much better
I kind of figured.

>>79637322
Computer

Then there were a few things in the edit of Cold Blood that we lost for time, which I worried about. They cut the really crucial moment of Mo confronting Malohkeh about his torture, before waking up Elliott, which for me felt really important and I’m sad we lost. That explained lots more about Malohkeh, his back-story and motivation, and it resolved how he and Mo and the Doctor could all be standing together, given what Malohkeh’s doing at the end of the first episode. The framing device of Cold Blood was entirely different at script and shooting stage, it was from Amy’s point of view, more emotional, about the loss of Rory. The episode starts with the Doctor holding her in the TARDIS, telling her to remember, just after Rory’s died, and we go into flashback and the episode is presented as a memory until we catch up with them again at that point. There was none of the Silurians’ narration; I preferred it being about Amy, it felt more intimate, more personal, but then I would say that! And across both episodes quite a lot of small character moments went, all for understandable reasons: pace and time.

Silurians must have flipped their shit when Dave Ross stole the earth

>>79637322
Spotify on my phone

>>79637475
Is this from chibbers?

>>79637572
Nah. Humans are like, "Dude, remember when they stole our whole fucking planet?" And Silurians are like, "WTF? I must have slept through the whole thing! Seriously, man, I gotta stop taking Ambien."

I need a new Big Finish audio to listen to. Recommend me one of the hundred I haven't already listened too.

>>79637676
Yes.
http://www.starburstmagazine.com/features/interviews/4597-interview-chris-chibnall-part-2-doctor-who-and-beyond

He had all of his stuff fucked in the production.

>>79637716
>Recommend me one of the hundred I haven't already listened too
*Recommend me one that I haven't listened to (I've listened to a pretty decent number)

We don’t think Moffat’s first series has the consistency of his second.

I’m not sure I agree with that. I think these things often come down to the vagaries of production. The Beast Below is probably one of Steven’s best ever scripts, and the production of it was so not what was in the script. I remember watching that and thinking, ‘Oh,’ because it’s a really beautiful, operatic visual piece of writing. It’s bigger than The End of the World, but actually the way the visuals went, something wasn’t quite right on the production of that. The tone of it is odd as well, the tone of it is not the tone of the script. And tone is something that often goes unrecognised as a key component in things. I think it’s always fascinating. I really vividly remember reading that, because I read The Eleventh Hour and thought that was extraordinary and really hurtles along, and then I thought he did something new in The Beast Below, and I think he probably doesn’t look on it that fondly but I think that actually, if he published that script at whatever it was, first or second draft, it was a really beautiful piece of writing.

There's literally nothing wrong with The Beast Below. It baffles me that people keep saying it's shit.

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This might be sacrilege to many, but who wants the old doctors back on tv?

>annual 'Classic' specials
>in the structure of 90 min movies
>Classic who with the modern production of NuWho

The guy who played William Hartnell on An Adventure in Time and Space can kick off a 'reimagined classics' series of specials.

Before you crucify me,

>classic who slow burn style mystery/sci-fi goodness

WITHOUT

>the michael bay editing of NuWho
>shouty characters
>plot devices
>muddy plots

Everything we loved about Classic Who back with a shiny new coat of paint.

Moffat Ratings:

5 = 9 > 6 >> 8 > 7

Prove me wrong

>>79637237
My phone.
Their app is pretty good.

>>79637716
The Magic Mousetrap if you are familiar with the Seven/hex/Ace team.
Go into it unspoiled.

>>79638085
you're correct

Working on Torchwood must have been an amazing experience.

It was a real once-in-a-lifetime thing. Julie Gardner said, “Come and have a drink,” and we went to this Private Members’ Club in London and she said, “We have to sit in the corner because there’s this secret thing.” It was like all executive producers always do: “I have a secret thing to tell you; it’s very important.” And then in this case... She said, “We’re going to do a 9 o’clock spin-off of Doctor Who. Do you want to do it?” and I said, “What?” That was really out of the blue, really unexpected. There was no sense that there were going to be spin-offs. She just said, “We’re going to do a show, a spin-off of Doctor Who, it’s going to be featuring Captain Jack, it’s going to be much more grown-up.” So that was the first I’d heard of it, and that took me really by surprise. She said, “You can’t tell anyone. There’s a page, that Russell’s written, and that’s it.” I stumbled out thinking, ‘What on Earth are they going to do?’ and then a day later the page showed up.

>>79638085
Switch 8 and 6 and I totally agree.

>>79638085
5>8>9>6>7

>>79638085
5 > 7 > 8 > 6 > 9

>>79638193
>8 that high
no

>>79638212
>7 that high
no

>>79638076
>Everything we loved about Classic Who back with a shiny new coat of paint.
And you think just having Colin Baker instead of Matt Smith will somehow mean you get everything you loved about classic Who?

Who's going to write, direct, and produce these stories? Do you know of some genius out there who has the talent to do 70s-style pacing and also make tasteful and inventive use of CGI that the rest of us haven't heard of?

If not, I'd rather stick with Big Finish, who are already doing that. Not all of their stories are brilliant, but far more than the one per year you're offering.

>>79638243
Guess what, people sonetimes have different opinions.

Initially, Torchwood took a lot of flak from Doctor Who fans.

That’s why you can’t go on the internet, that’s why you can’t get involved, because you have to be writing for another reason, you have to be writing because you want to.

After the first Torchwood went out, I had a look at a couple of reviews – of Russell’s episode – and I just thought, ‘I don’t agree. It’s not the intended audience.’ That was the point where I thought, ‘You’re not going to gain anything from reading this stuff.’ If they’re going to be like that about Russell, who is a really extraordinary writer and this is seven years ago when I had far fewer credits – I thought, ‘Okay, I’m going to be sniper-fire.’ The great thing about Doctor Who is, the best writers in the country run it. Russell is a genius of a writer, and Steven is. I don’t use that word lightly, they both are. I’ve worked with them both pretty closely, and they are both geniuses in very different and very similar ways.

Literally the first dinner I had with Russell, and I hadn’t agreed to do the job, the first thing he said to me was, “If you come and do this, you must never go on-line ever again. It doesn’t matter whether you write brilliant stuff or shit stuff or whatever, it will destroy you.” I think he gave that piece of advice to everyone. I think he gave it to David [Tennant], he gave it to John Simm, he gave it to everyone. I think it’s part of the territory now.

>>79638137
>The Magic Mousetrap if you are familiar with the Seven/hex/Ace team.
And if not, The Harvest followed by the Magic Mousetrap is a great choice for the next two.

>>79638275
opinions? ONLY MY RANKINGS AT ACCURATE EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG!

series 3 is the worst series of nuwho
prove me wrong
blink was the only good episode

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>>79630686
>displaying a skull emoji

Holy hell. He's already fucking right.

>>79638364
It had a lot of good episodes.

>>79638262

I'm sure somewhere out there somebody's been waiting their whole life for it, yeah.

But we should get a Paul McGann series, maybe in the same format as Sherlock.

Series 9 didn't know where it was going. Did they want an arc or not? Did the Doctor even care? He was basically like "I don't know what the hybrid is" even when no one was watching up until Heaven Sent where he confessed he knew who it was and he wasn't lying so what we're they trying to do here? Plus there was no real pay off.

Aside from the shit 5, 6, 9, stories were weak (Before the Flood notably), slow (The Magician's Apprentice), 2, 6 and 11 were just hour-long conversations.

It's not that I don't like hearing Peter go full ASMR but it was just too much and padded episodes (especially 6).

Series 5, 6 and 8 had a few scenes revealing more about the arc every few episodes.

Series 7 had the Impossible girl arc neatly developed every episode.

Series 9 had what? The Doctor faking surprise "Woah... it's like... a hybrid" twice in 12 episodes. Also, we literally never saw Clara take risks and be a daredevil except of course in the episode she died in.

>>79638477
Series 7 is shit though. Do you agree?

>>79638550
Eh, still better than Series 9.

>>79638477
>caring about arcs

>He was basically like "I don't know what the hybrid is"
Pretty sure he never said that.

>2, 6 and 11 were just hour-long conversations.
12/Davros conversations were some of the best Capaldi scenes so far.

>Series 7 had the Impossible girl arc neatly developed every episode.
lolno

>>79638137
>>79638295
Awesome will listen.

>>79638618
It gives the series a start and an end.

He was like "she's a hybrid" about Ashildr and told Osgood "you're like... a hybrid" with a concerned face like they were the hybrid. If he knew the hybrid was him why did he fake those reactions to people who didn't even know about the hybrid prophecy?

I said especially in The Woman Who Lived.

And yes, it was developed in every episode. Never said it was developed in a good way, just said they actually put some effort to try and fit the arc in the episodes.

Starburst: Not having done the New Adventures and so on, you weren’t necessarily the most obvious choice to write for the revived Doctor Who.

Chris Chibnall: I’d come up through theatre. Doctor Who fans aren’t going to know that, but I’d had an attachment to the National Theatre Studio, a year’s residence and a play produced at Soho Theatre, another at Southwark Playhouse, and one play that ran for three months in Paris and was produced around the world – still is. So I’d come up through that route rather than coming up through Big Finish or the novels.


By the point I came onto Torchwood, I’d written twenty hours of television, I’d worked with Julie on Life on Mars, and I’d got four seasons of what was a big hit for BBC1 with Born and Bred.

>>79638469
>I'm sure somewhere out there somebody's been waiting their whole life for it, yeah.
Well, if your whole plan is "There must be some genius out there who could make something amazing, let's just close our eyes and hope he exists", sure. In fact, I'd like to let any such geniuses make whatever they want, no need to restrict them to updated-classic-Who.

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>>79636342
>>79636616

>'I work in the administration department of the administration department of the BBC Administration Department. I can confirm that this every word of Private Eye's report is true. I can also confirm that Steven Moffat threw the contents of a cup of tea (tea) at Caro Skinner as she was leaving the office.'

>>79638743
>just said they actually put some effort to try and fit the arc in the episodes
Honestly, that was the only thing I didn't like about S9.

S9 was supposed to be a season without an arc story. And that would have been fine. Whether Moffat succumbed to worrying about people like the other anon saying "But it's not Doctor Who without muh season arc!" or he just decided The Woman Who Lived was so amazing that he had to expand it to cover the whole season, it was a mistake.

I still love the series, but it would have been better if they'd just left most of the episodes untouched by Ashildr and the Hybrid thing. Heaven Sent would have worked just as well if the Hybrid hadn't been mentioned until FtR. And FtR could have worked just as well without Ashildr.

>>79638912
Ashildr ruined Series 9.

>>79638743
>it was developed in every episode
Wasn't it basically ignored until the finale? I only remember it really factoring into the plot in Journey and it was retconned.

>>79638954
They mentioned it in literally every episode.

Lets play a game

Guess about which episode this post is:

I personally really liked it, but I talked with a couple of people at church today who I know watch it and they both hated the episode. One described it as 'a load of pretentious twaddle.' Another said the show had become too self-referential and it should focus more on just being scary.

>>79639174
I don't like this game. I'm going to sit this one out, if that's okay.

>>79639174
Rose

>>79639174
It's gotta be Heaven Sent. Normies can't recognise kino.

>>79639174
Episode 1 of The Crusade.

No aliens, no monsters, inside jokes about the actors' other roles in other stories earlier in the season, Barbara telling Saphadin the stories of season 1 as her 1001 Arabian Nights bit…

>>79639174
Hell Bent. Cunts.

>>79638364
Its only real crime is being kinda forgettable. Well, that and Last of the Time Lords.

>>79638076
>without plot devices
wut

>>79639389
He's obviously using "plot devices" in the /who/-specific sense where only RTD deus ex endings and Moffat timey-wimey count as plot devices.

>>79639214
Correct.
Next one is going to be multiple reactions to one episode:

my 5 and a half year old said "mum can i watch something else" half way through

My wife thought it was a "nice story" but there wasn't enough "alien stuff" in it. She's now asking me if Dr Who always has to have aliens in it?! Also, she thought the alien was "crap".

My mum loved it! Admittedly, she did fall asleep about ten minutes in, but I quickly poked her to make sure she woke up! Anyway, she said that it was the best episode of the series so far

>>79639174
The Zygon Invasion or Inversion.

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>>79639512
>my 5 and a half year old
>My wife
Can the old normies PLEASE LEAVE

>>79638364
It has the highest number of good episodes. It is therefore the best series.

>>79639512
The Woman Who Lived.

>>79630141
is emoji trademarked?

>>79639512
Vincent and the Doctor

>>79639512
Doctor Mysterio

>>79639512
Love & Monsters

>>79640042
>is emoji trademarked?
No, it's a preexisting Japanese word for pictograms (and often logograms besides kanji). NTT did try to trademark it anyway, but they were rejected.

>>79630141
>those replies
lol

>>79630688
what's got you confused, bud?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5d5pQM7IGo

>>79639512
So are you going to tell us?

"He was wonderful in that film... I never saw the film."
https://youtu.be/H85hYqPeiCw

why's S9 not on netflix?

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>>79641743
Yuros have it

>>79641997
America no longer has Doctor Who, period

makes me cry

I like staring at this picture

>>79641997
>>79642059
Weird. Australia has S1 - S8.

>>79641997
Not in the UK we don't.

>>79641997
>Yuros get S9
>UK still doesnt have it
Brexit truly was a mistake

>>79641743
>>79642198
Just discovered that I have it downloaded so it doesn't even matter. Never rewatched S9 before. Currently I consider it one of the best series, wonder if my opinion will change.

What was that site that has all of Classic Who?

Hey where is oldman tripfag?

>>79643448
Please answer ASAP, I want to watch something now.

>>79643599
https://vk dot com slash videos-5742320

>>79643696
Thank you.

>>79643484
Please answer ASAP, I want to bait him right now.

>>79643599
have a present https://archive.is/7eSsd

So, anyone for dodgems?

>>79640511
Neat.

>>79635208
You forgot the rolling Scottish 'r'.

12: Kidneys! I've got new kidneys!
12: We're probably crrrlashing!

just watched Last Christmas, buds

>>79645890
And?

>>79645949
it's okay. some interesting ideas, but it's kind of repetitive and by the last time they wake up it almost feels like a parody. also nothing really solved the plot. they didn't do anything new to defeat the dreamcrabs, they just happened to wake up for real

>>79645998
Actually they still haven't woken up and all of series 9 was an incredibly PIGSHIT dream produced by Clara's dying brain. Luckily the Doctor freed himself offscreen between Hell Bent and The Husbands of River Song, but Clara's dead. This is absolutely, 100% true canon.

>>79637718
>What’s next for Chris Chibnall?


>The Great Train Robbery, for BBC1, for later this year, hopefully. We’re doing two ninety-minute films; it’s World Productions, the team who did United. We start shooting quite soon. I’m really excited about it.

So he's not taking a 'holiday' after Broadchurch 3. He's working on something else before starting work on Doctor Who series 11.

>>79639512
Before the Flood?

>>79646089
This isn't real, is it?

>>79646089
It's from 2013

>>79646089
Ignore. Just realized the interview was in 2013.

>>79637475
>>79637718
I always like reading writers talk candidly about their work, particularly the things wrong with it.

I'm getting a good feeling about Chibnall. I don't know why - I just think I trust him with Who. I'm more worried about the next Doctor really.

>>79646419
Just lucky Billie Piper isn't in control of that decision.

>>79646419
I'd trust him with my balls. Like, gently placing them in his cupped hand. He could crush them if he wanted, but I don't think he would. I wouldn't even be concerned.

As for the show, I'm not sure. He might fuck it up.

>>79646512
Ah, a true fan, more concerned about the show than his own balls.

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>>79639512
The Woman Who Lived, with the crappy lion man alien?

>>79646559
This is why Doctor Who fans aren't allowed in sensitive positions.

"Sir, we've tried everything. We tortured him, we drugged him, he tortured his daughter in front of his face, he won't crack."

"We shall see. So, Mr. Nonymous, you won't tell us what you know? What if we were to cast Mark Gatiss as the next Doctor?"

"What? No, you monster! I'll talk, I'll give you the codes, anything, just not that!"

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>>79637718
>I love nipping in and doing a Doctor Who, but I love that I don’t have to run it, frankly! I love that that’s Steven’s problem! And that he has those headaches
Uh ohhh

>>79646569
>Life is sad, believe you me Missy
>When you're born to be a sissy
>Without the vim and verve
>But if I could change my habits
>Never more be scared of rabbits
>If i only had the nerve

Notice that the Lion is singing to Missy. A clue?

>>79646639
No, that's S8, not S9.

>Life is hard when you're soldier
>Cause that kid won't get no older
>Cause I sent him straight to hell
>My PTSD would be a goner
>And I've have back all my honour
>If I only dug more wells

>Oh I could tell you why
>Emotions are a bore
>I could teach my maffs and never angst no more
>And then I'd sit and teach some more

>Oh I wouldn't be so jaded
>Just waiting to be upgraded
>And I'd talk instead of yell
>Yes my life would be merry
>It would be a ding-a-derry
>If I only dug more wells

>>79636583
The only good part of the last season of sherlock was the saw game in episode 3
the show peaked at the reichenbach fall and should have ended there

>>79647847
You'd want the show to end on an unresolved cliffhanger?

Returning through the dark
>>79648025
>>79648025
>>79648025

>>79648045
Would've been better than what we got.