DUDE HUMANS GOTTA WORK TOGETHER LMAO Why is this film so shit?

Because you're a brainlet.

It's got Amy Adams and nice cinematography

What more do you faggots want?

>>79595753
why dont you fuck off and catch atlas shrugged instead

>>79595775
Ah I see. It's one of those films the thick cunts like because they think it makes them smart, like Tree of Life.

>>79595824
>atlas shrugged
Because that's shit as well.

Like your life, your face and your mother's BJ technique.

>>79595753
do you have any real criticisms

>>79595753
DUDE SEE MY KID HAVE CANCER IN THE FUTURE LMAO

bet you faggots would shit on 2001 if it came out today

DUDE GIANT FLOATING SPACE BABY LMAO

>>79595753
wow she looks like elon musk from the side

>>79596101
Are you comparing this to 2001? Lel

>>79596104
She has a weird nose.

One of the steps that mankind will have to take to keep going is to unite
Get over it braindead fuckers

>>79595833
>>79595885
>>79595970
>>79596104
>>79596123
>>79596169
Go back to red dit
>>79596101
2001 sucks

>amy adams
>jeremy renner

it's like they don't want me to watch this film

>>79596123
No, I am comparing your "criticism" with mine, because it's laughable.

Provide actual buzzword free arguments.

>>79596181
Why would those anons go to reddit if cancer like you originates from there ?

>>79595753
is there an alien movie were they make first contact with us not because some stupid reason like ops pic but because even for them they were like oh shit other life on other worlds exist lets stop by and say hello

I still wish for an alien movie which we are the aliens that arrive at a world where they are at middle-ages tier technology and we just stand there inside our spaceships acting all enigmatic and laughing our asses off at their attempt to understand what the fuck we are

>>79596341
And that's why you are not a screewriter

>>79596256
8 years
>>79596277
>>79596341
I'm so glad you don't write movies

Yeah it's pretty shit, we don't even learn what the aliens tax policies were, so why would we trust them?

>>79596216
I can't stand Amy Adams. I don't know why. Maybe it's her dumb fucking face or the fact that she is another "Down to earth" Jenifer Lawrence type of actor when in reality she is another spoiled bitch that lives in clouds. Something just boils me in me when I see her acting.

>>79595753
this was such a shit movie. why was the whole communication thing being lead by a dumbass meathead army guy? he was so stupid it was unbelievable, like no real person could be that stupid.

>can you translate this ayy lmao noise for me?
>what, you're telling me you can't translate a language you've never heard before?

then there's the chinese general who wants to NUKE the aliens. what the fuck? these things come to earth on their magical flying saucers and china wants to go to war with them? that's a death wish to any rational person.

it was also boring as fuck

>>79596401
her screen presence is bad. she shouldnt be the main character in anything

>>79596401
>>79596403
Fucking morons. Your opinions are shit.

Can someone tell me why a bunch of soldiers with some top secret clearance decide to go jihad on the ayy lmaos?

>>79596234
What was my criticism?

>>79596403
how do you think the military works?

>>79596436
because le conspiracy theorist guy convinced them the aliens are a threat, as if that's a thing that would actually happen irl

The problem with this film is that it didn't build everything around its message. The central message/idea of the film is that you can overcome grief by changing your perspective on it. All of the language stuff is there to set up the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis and show that you can have a vastly different perspective on things if you're open to it.

But was that really the main point? It's hard to say because even though that is a proper reading/analysis, the film has so many other things going on that dilute that point. Why is so much time spent focused on communication issues, either with Louise and her daughter or between governments? Why throw in so much subtle political messaging, when none of it is strong enough to stand on its own? Why not develop the relationship between Louise and Jeremy Renner's character more? A bunch of the themes that are developed don't actually contribute to the central idea.

>>79596436
they kept watching alex jones videos that were saying the ayy lmaos were about to make humans extinct

>>79596473
Uh, trump got elected honey. Nothing is certain.

>>79596436
Because the le nananas man on the interwebs radicalised a US Army fag through JewTube vids

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>>79595753
>Why is this film so shit?

>>79596469
i know how the military works, but i'd expect them to assign someone with a little bit of intelligence and rational thinking abilities to lead a team encountering a foreign life form for the first time.

>>79596432
>not
>an
>argument

>>79595833
This. I watched this drivel seriously impaired and it didn't make me really think.

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>>79596389

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>>79596555
>i know how the military works
>i'd expect them to assign someone with a little bit of intelligence and rational thinking abilities to lead a team encountering a foreign life form for the first time.

>>79596474
Which was peculiar as the death of her daughter was in the future. It was just fucking strange.

>>79596473
>>79596436
>aliens are dangerous because they have super advanced technology
>lets try to piss them off
Makes no sense, even if they thought they could blow up alien ships, do they expect that they're the only aliens in the universe and no retribution would be coming? Or that nobody knows they're on Earth or find out they're suddenly missing?

>>79595753
Globalist NWO propaganda

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>>79596584
>I heard on CNN that the hacker 4chan is le supreme hitlerman in the altright nazi movement!

>>79596599
He's right though. The military will have communication and intelligence experts that would be ideal in this scenario

>>79595753
>Humans have to work together
Well, yeah, that would be ideal

>>79596658
Competition drives advancements in soceity

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>time travel

Automatic 0/10.

>>79596635
Are you having a stroke ? Wtf are you talking about kid ?

>>79596619
they translated an ayy lmao message as "use weapon" or something so they wanted to strike first in the upcoming war

>>79596677
>americlaps are this brainwahsed

>>79596725
I'm a Bong and it's fucking true. You think the space race would have put man on the moon in 1969 if not for the Cold War?

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>>79596690
>If I act purposefully obtuse hopefully nobody will notice how full of shit I am
>Better call him a kid so I can signal to everyone that I'm the dominant one

>>79596605
Yeah, the chronology of it seems to undermine the only real message the film has. How is she overcoming grief if she hasn't even felt the grief yet? And likewise, it seems like she overcomes the grief as soon as she realizes she's feeling grief. I mean, it seemed like her flashbacks (flashforwards) were dream-like to her, not like actually memories, and as soon as she realizes that they were memories, she also is enlightened about the grief she will have, and she decides to have the kid anyway.

I can give the film the benefit of the doubt for that, even though it seems like sloppy storytelling. I don't really know what the message gains by making you think she's a grieving mother for the entire movie when in reality she was just sort of lonely and mostly just blank, a non-character.

>>79596782
>she decides to have the kid anyway.
she didnt have a choice in the matter

>>79596686
Repeat after me

>"There is no time travel in Arrival"
>"There is no time travel in Arrival"
>"There is no time travel in Arrival"
>"There is no time travel in Arrival"
>"There is no time travel in Arrival"

Only her perception of time changes where she "remembers" the future just like we remember our past in the form of memories.
Never does she move to an another point in time, she is always in the current narrative.

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>What is this language? It makes no sense.
>Oh wait, I understand it now!
>WHAT THE SHIT I CAN SEE THROUGH TIME
>Hey, where I to have a daughter, she would die a shitty death and destroy me and the love of my life. Let's do it!

Why did you recommend me this, /tv/?

>>79596474
>Why is so much time spent focused on communication issues, either with Louise and her daughter or between governments? Why throw in so much subtle political messaging, when none of it is strong enough to stand on its own? Why not develop the relationship between Louise and Jeremy Renner's character more? A bunch of the themes that are developed don't actually contribute to the central idea.
Because then they'd have to actually make a good movie, as opposed to gluing a turd together and pretending it's a good movie.

>>79596802
>she uses information from the future to make decisions before she had that information

>this isn't time travel because she didn't physically go to the future

>even though she can mentally hop to any point in her life because of the alien language

You might as well try to claim there isn't any time travel in quantum leap.

>>79596794
She did though, which is why Ian left her. She observed "memories" which were actually future events.

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So Shang gave her his personal phone number in the future for Louise to use in the present as well as his wife's dying words. Why would he do that, is he knew she knew those thing already????

>>79596863
>which were actually future events.
which means she cant make the choice to stay childless

>>79596677
I said it would be ideal, not that it's the most probably thing to happen

>>79596925
predestined to happen

>>79596927
Which is stupid when you think about it.

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I never believed the "/tv/ is contrarian" meme until I read the reactions to Arrival.

What a bunch of dense, autistic cunts you all are.

<3

>>79596501
>drumpf is evil nazi fucking white male

>>79596599
>military is full of dumb grunts

>>79596776
That anon is right though
You shouldn't let memes control your life
You end up saying stupid

>>79596957
Yes, but if you ring me up now, I'm not going to meet you in six months and show you my personal number. I'm going to assume you already know it seeing as you've used it.

>>79596725
Seriously? Most if technological advancements we have in society start off as military grade tech before dropping down to the civilian consumer.

See TV, radio, mobile phones and the fucking internet for a start.

>>79597039
He said something like "I feel like I have to tell you this for some reason" in the scene. He felt compelled but he didn't know why

>>79597025
Says the redditor

>>79597090
To serve the mental plot is why.

>>79595833
Where from Aus?

>>79597025
He didn't say shit about memes. The guy he was originally responding to made a better point than he did.

>>79597100
>>>/pol/
>>>/reddit/

>>79597108
because it was his destiny to say it in that moment

>>79597141
Are you retarded ? Look at this shit >>79596635

>>79596794
Well, anyway if she wasn't overcoming grief then the film has no point at all. It's just a bunch of different half-connected ideas with no coherence.

>>79597045
Basically every aspect of modern society was developed to get to the moon.

>>79597150
Redditor on suicide watch

>destiny
Oh fuck, sure fire way to screw up your work.

>>79597187
>waaaaaaa muh CNN is real news ;( waaaaaa madam Cunton won the popular vote waaaaaaaa

Keep crying bitch nigger

>>79597190
>Well, anyway if she wasn't overcoming grief then the film has no point at all

now youre being dramatic

>>79596474
>Why not develop the relationship between Louise and Jeremy Renner's character more?
isn't there enough of this tripe in other movies? for once just let it be sci fi, not sci fi /romance

>>79597322
I don't think that the relationship should be in there just for its own sake. I think that the relationship could've helped frame Louise's grief more. It could've clarified things we saw in the flashforwards. If the film had more of a vision, I'm sure it would've spent time on the relationship instead of on all of the political meandering.

>>79595753
But we do, we need to forget our tribalist horseshit and ride the fuck out into space. This galaxy is our birthright as a species.

>>79597187
Are you retarded ? Look at this shit >>79596584

>>79597445
I think they didn't spend much time on the relationship between Amy and Renner to keep it as a "twist", a bit lazy writing I guess.

>>79595753
>its shit cuz ur a feg if u watch it
>but jeremy renor
>but thick cants lyke this lmao
>reddit reddit reddit
This is the level of film criticism we can offer here at 4chan.net. Please tell your friends.

>>79596403

That's the only thing that bugs me about alien movies. If they can travel to Earth, they're probably so advance that we really wouldn't dare to provoke a fight that we would be guaranteed to lose. At least in the X-Files humans more or less just beg for mercy. They allow the alien transition to rule humanity peacefully because they would really stand no chance.

>>79597482
Who's going to make the rules? To unite mankind, we need to destroy cultures and nations and have one government rule over everyone. That's something a lot of powerful people would like to see, but it's easier said than done.

>>79597322
The kid and relationship were clearly more important to the movie than any of the sci-fi elements

stop talking about this crap movie

>>79595753
DUDE LANGUAGE LMAO

>>79597561
complaining about shitposts is shitposting. here's some real criticism if you actually want to discuss the movie instead of just whining
>>79596474

>le le le le le so your sure you know I'm mocking what I'm referring too
>iz shiz
>hoo hoo rebbit
>this one piece of dialogue ruined the film
>lmao more like arny adams apple lel kek lol

>>79597499
That anon is right
You fuckers need to go back to /pol/ or reddit

>>79597721
Please bring your friends, we have almost sentences, straw man arguments and nothing but capeshit and cunny spam 24/7. Welcome.

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>>79597786
>I heard on CNN that the hacker 4chan is le supreme hitlerman in the altright nazi movement!

>>79595806
I don't like the nigger with the lazy eye and the other meme actor gets on my nerves as well.
Overall the cast is shit, which makes me sad because Villeneuve is a good director.

>>79596101
Kubrick butchered the book!

arrival is a movie only women can understand

>>79595753

the only thing i didnt like was the plot contrivance where china (or the russians, i forget) made an onimous interpretation about "weapons" the same day that the US does

like wow what a coincedence

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>>79595753

I thought it was alright, baby steps for the human race in understanding the relativity of time...however, I prefer its cult classic 'unofficial' sequel with Chuck Norris, I think it had a chance at the oscars for 2034.

>anon, what are you talking about?

>mfw /tv/ plebs still perceive time linearly...

you mongoloids are worse than bronies.

>>79595753
DUDE SHITPOSTING LMAO

>>79595753

DUDE HONKY NOISES LMAO

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>>79597897
>I heard on Fox news that the internet hate machine are like hackers on steroids who blow up yellow vans!

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>>79595753
tfw too intelligent to communicate

>>79596984
how can anyone defend trump lying to the people blatantly

he's completely distanced from any normal person living in america

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>>79595753
DUDE LOW EFFORT SHITPOSTING AMIRITE LMFAO XDD

>>79600557
He's no worse than any other politician in terms of lying and dishonesty.

>>79601401
stfu

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>>79595753
>post yf when abbott is death process

>>79602702
not an argument

>>79602768
stfu right now

>>79602743
Abbott was a fag. Costello was the best

>>79596802
The aliens went back in time

>>79602889
they didnt

they are aware of everything because the experience time non-linear, thats why they want "humanity to help them in 3000 years" or whatevever it was

>>79603069
If they can see they are in need of help, why don't they help themselves?

In the future, whyy didn't she remember having the conversation with the general, but he did remember? She remembered other shit in the future, like her daughter and her divorce.

>>79595753
OH I get it! CONTACT-LENS. Clever YEEEEZZZ

>>79603173
she didn't know how or when she came across that information. if i'm not mistaken at that point in the movie it was just starting to come to her.

>>79603173
doesnt experience time linearly

>>79595753
what are they looking at

>>79603531
>>79603585
So how come when she is with her daughter isnt like "who the fuck is this lil cancer nigga lol? Where the fuck am I?"

>>79603639
can't find her contact lense

>>79603730
thought she was dreaming

>>79596177
That or we wipe out all non whites

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>>79603975

>>79603173
>>79603730
When they first start to piece together the patterns in the language it's referred to as more of an abstract collection of thoughts to portray a certain concept, rather than the a single word, so I interpreted Louise's "compliance" in her early future memories as a mirror to that idea - where she's being hit with a lot of context-less feelings and emotions, which despite having no grounding in her reality at that point she just accepts as the truth because it's something that she can relate to, similar to how you can be completely invested in a dream despite how ridiculous it may be once you wake up. The way the film is shot is extremely dream-like, which I felt just helped to push this concept more.

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>>79598051
Whittaker is a real human bean

>>79596341
sounds great, too bad these multiculturalism loving reddi*ors won't like it.