It's better on the second viewing

>>79586842
Maybe I'll be able to make it through 30 minutes without skipping through this time.

I didn't expect non-stop 24/7 action but holy fuck it was so boring.

Affleck will have to take your word for it

>>79586842
Watch it by yourself

>>79586842
No it's not, stop lying to yourself.

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>>79586842
I still cannot accept a Superman whose mere presence on Earth brought about the death of thousands of people.
Bruce Wayne was correct in wanting him dead, and the movie made no attempt to remedy this.

We're supposed to ignore that fact that Superman in MOS alerted enemies to Earth, and that Earth would have been better off if Superman had not decided to be Superman?

BVS, is just as bad because Bruce Wayne simply drops all of that thinking just because their moms had the same first name?

Superman is Earth people's enemy, and would be better off dead for most all humans.

>>79588329
Take it easy. It's a children's show.

>>79588354
>quality children's show life lessons
>several thousands of dead because of Superman's presence, no big deal

>>79586842
the fight should have happened in the middle of the movie, last half should have been them working together to stop Lex instead of a footnote

pacing in the whole thing is awful, most of the movie is just boring talking in monochrome environments and the last 30 minutes is just a nonstop CGI fest that you stop caring about 5 minutes in

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>>79588354
"Don't worry kid, thousands of other kid's parents are dead because Superman's Kryptonian ship alerted his enemies to Earth. Thousands of parentless children thanks to Superman."

>>79586842
Yeah, fuck off.

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>>79586842
The only thing I got on the second viewing was a reminder on why I disliked it the first time. Better to stick to true capekino like pic related.

>>79586842
maybe but who would watch it twice?

>>79586842
No, it's much, much worse. The first time around there's entertainment to be had in the initial shock of how terrible everything is. When there are no surprises, it's stupefyingly tedious drivel.
But it is pretty amusing when people pretend that there's actually some deeper meaning behind it.

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>>79586842

Is Supes looking at Batmans cock?

OP is correct. I enjoyed it a lot more the second time I watched it

Unlike Marvel flicks were can't even be viewed a second time without falling asleep.

Man of Steel gets better the more I watch it.

>be WB
>have superior capeshit universe
>have suprerior and iconic characters
>even one of them can literally made bil easily if movie is at least above average
>have all the hype
>have tons of fans
>have DCAU and MCU as examples of adaptations
>failed so hard that greatest capeshit team of all time is less wanted than reddit-squad of literally who
>movie about the most famous female superhero is already doomed
>even FUCKING BATMAN is struggles to be created
Is DCEU cursed by Snyder and Goyer or something?

>>79589066
Despite all of the faults and critical flops, WB is loading on cash.

Fashionable cynicism aside OP is exactly right, as long as we're talking Extended Edition or whatever it's called. Plays a lot better the second time around, and subsequent viewings. It will age very well.

>>79589086
Not really, 2016 was a terrible year for Warner, both capemovies failed to become a tentpole and failed to fulfill the expectatives.

I initially dismissed the idea of the extended edition, since I hated it so much the first time through. After watching the regular version again on TV, I'm not so against it anymore. It was still a disjointed mess with bad pacing and idiotic characters, but I didn't despise it quite so much. Eisenberg as Luthor was still a fucking monumentally shitty casting choice, though.

On my 10th viewing and every time it gets better.

Look the plot is still dumb but in terms of visusls and cinematic language with symbolism - it is unparalleded.

One of best films of 2016 imo.

>>79586842
The movie is a failure because the fight is so terrible. It's 5 minutes and slow as fuck.

It's like watching two seniors wrestle over the last piece of jello at the old folks home.

>>79589064
It's the kind of movie where I like to get shitfaced and watch it and pretend it's live action dragon ball z while yelling at the screen

>>79588329
>BVS, is just as bad because Bruce Wayne simply drops all of that thinking just because their moms had the same first name?

Hmm..

>Be Batman
>Be orphan boy who's parents murdered at young age
>Last words your father say are 'Martha' to his dying mother
>Haunts his dreams every night
>Random alien being comes to Earth, destroys his business' building
>Decide to fight the alien, attempt to steal the secret weapon and the alien shows up and tells you to fuck off
>Hallucinate some random guy telling you that you were right about the alien after seeing an alternate future flash before his eyes
>Meet some hot chick who was alive during WW1 and still looks exactly the same
>Read up about meta-human thesis and how these beings are already on Earth
>Finally get the chance to fight the alien 1v1
>About to kill him, and the last thing he says is "you're letting them kill Martha"

Yeah, it's totally cuz their Mom has the same name. God this board is so fucking pleb, it's no different than rebbit

>>79589275
>It's like watching two seniors wrestle over the last piece of jello at the old folks home.
At least the two seniors actually have a reason for fighting. The fight between Batman and Superman wouldn't have happened if Snyder didn't force it so much.

>>79589305
Why would Superman adress his adoptive mother by her first name though?
Wouldn't it be more natural to say "You are letting them kill my mother/mum"?
The whole scene was completely idiotic anyway and I still ask myself why anyone would see this movie and say "This is completely fine". Not to mention the scenes were Clark met Pa Kent on a fucking mountain and he tells him about killing horses. I don't care if it was just an illusion, it was dumb as fuck.

>>79589410
>Why would Superman adress his adoptive mother by her first name though?
>Wouldn't it be more natural to say "You are letting them kill my mother/mum"?

This movie clearly went way over your head

>>79589305
>Be Batman
>Be orphan boy who's parents murdered at young age
>Last words your father say are 'Martha' to his dying mother
>Haunts his dreams every night
Okay, that's a good opener for your Batman origin story, it's just too bad we dove straight into a crossover before the requisite Batman movie.
>Meet some hot chick who was alive during WW1 and still looks exactly the same
Whoa now, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
>About to kill him, and the last thing he says is "you're letting them kill Martha"
As opposed to "you're letting them kill my mother" or something to make it a little less forced? Granted, scene would still be stupid, but at least it'd be a little less forced.

>>79589481
So basically "I can't give a rational explanation for this, better call him a pleb instead."

Me, I just attribute it to shitty writing since neither Snyder nor WB knows what the fuck they're doing with this cinematic universe.

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>>79586842
No it's not, it gets worse because you catch bullshit you missed the 1st time

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>Marvel world-ending events
>no one shown dying, in fact most of the movies go out of the way to say that they saved everyone
>people who die on-screen are usually side characters no one cares about
>DC kicks off DCEU
>two godlike beings fighting, one especially intent on causing all the collateral he can until he dies
>forces superman to fight through buildings and the streets, blowing up as much as he can
>impact is memorialized in next two movies
>back to Marvel's marketing court
>backpedal and say that yes people died, no they didn't die on-screen no they didn't save everyone like we said
>conflict between the mightiest heroes in the world is in an empty parking lot and only one of them ends up hurt while they shout jokes at eachother and fight for contrivances that any actual brain would find ridiculous
>then they have "witty" dialogue and exposition for a half hour then fight in another small isolated and ugly concrete bunker for an even more retarded reason but it has some impact because Cap lost his shield but gave RDJ a letter and RDJ turns to the camera and smirks and gives a wink before cap frees everyone imprisoned and the credits roll

>>79589511
Nigga, if you can't rationalize the story based on the first response I gave you, then no, you do not grasp the movie.

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>>79589410
Apparently there's a deleted scene where Clark is doing research on Bruce/Batman and discovers his mother's name. So in a sense, Clark was trying to emotionally manipulate Bruce into not killing him by saying "MARTHA!"

>>79588329
>I still cannot accept a Superman whose mere presence on Earth brought about the death of thousands of people.
Well he ended up saving billions by destroying the World Engine, and rejected his own people in favor in Earth, so I think that makes up for a couple of broken buildings. Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

>We're supposed to ignore that fact that Superman in MOS alerted enemies to Earth, and that Earth would have been better off if Superman had not decided to be Superman?
Wow, actions have consequences, good and bad! Who would've thought, right?

>BVS, is just as bad because Bruce Wayne simply drops all of that thinking just because their moms had the same first name?
Goddamn it. Just stop. Holy shit, how can people STILL not figure out that scene?

>Superman is Earth people's enemy, and would be better off dead for most all humans.
Pic related. Looks like Superman did some super stuff in the years that followed after MoS. Must be trying to improve his public image after that showdown with Zod!

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>>79586842
>turds taste better when you already have turds on your breath

>>79589692
So instead of telling him right at the start "Lex Luthor was responsible for the bombing, I had nothing to do with it and now he abducted my mother to force me to fight you" he fought with Batman without even trying to talk. The same Superman then was cunning enough to stop Batman from killing him by saying a single word.
Also, for some reason he can find Lois from half the planet away and catch her when she is falling down a building but can't do the same with his mother? Then he decided he should leave saving his mother to a dude who uses miniguns a lot and not go himself since he is the bulletproof demigod.

>>79586842
Oh, so you're a marvel shill roleplaying a DC fan. It's better on the first viewing since it makes you feel intense emotions. That doesn't really happen when you watch a movie again.

>>79589619
I'm not asking you to rationalize it, the question was how it all makes sense given basic logic.

For example, I can point out the reasons why Cap and Tony acted the way they did during Civil War using the MCU as a whole. I don't have to rationalize anything because it's already there.

Based on what we see in the film however, there's no reason why Superman would reference his mother by name rather than saying "they'll kill my mother" instead, besides shitty writing of course.

>>79589795
>You hate DCEU?
>Must be a Marvel shill
Every time

>>79586842

it best on the 0 viewing

>>79589853
Not him but you're really simple for not understanding. Bruce views Superman as an evil alien monster. Last words of Superman aren't "ngrahhh kill all humins" but "please save my mum". This humanises Superman in Bruce's eyes and he stays his hand long enough for Lois to intervene. Durrr

>>79589901
so him flying all over the world saving random strangers shows less compassion than wanting to save his own mother?

>>79589692
All of your responses to legitimate complaints are not answered by any of your responses. Generally in every response you imply the complaints are made because of not understanding the context, with no explanation by you of why the complaints hold no merit.

I simply cannot accept the structure of the story, that millions of people would be pleased, and cheering on Superman after his presence alerted enemies to Earth. He would be considered worse than Osama Bin Laiden if the movies were to be accurate.

No amount of heroic acts done before, or after can rectify the death of thousands of people, parents causing broken families in the several thousands.

I know that you're wrapped up in the music, the emotion of that, but the reality is Superman's presence brought on the deaths of several thousands of people, and broken families because Superman came to Earth alerting the ship.
There is no way to reconcile that.

>>79589786
"Words don't stop him. You know what stops him? A fist."

Supes tried to reason with Bats, but failed because Bats kept instigating conflict with his various traps. Supes eventually got sick of his bullshit and started throwing him around like a ragdoll, to prove a point that nothing Bats does to him can physically harm him, so should just stop trying and LISTEN to what he has to say. Of course, he didn't know about the kryptonite arsenal Bats had... which escalated things even worse.

It's not that hard to figure out, dude. Not everything has to be linear and straightforward, sometimes you have to use your brain to figure things out, even movies.

Is there a Director's Cut?

>>79586842
But it was great the first time I watched it.

>>79586867
>it was so boring
No you.

>>79589952
>use your brain

Why do you people think shitty writing = "too smart for you"

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>>79586842
It gets better with each successive viewing

I've probably seen it 8-10 times now

>>79590064
It's not that it's "too smart for you" it's that you retards never try to understand anything to just go for catty humor on the internet.

>>79590107
No, it's as simple as this, I didn't fucking like the movie. In fact, a lot of people didn't. it was boring half the time, and the other half had lazy fucking dialogue that sounded like it was written by a preschooler.

>>79590107
Exactly

I've literally heard people here say it's "too smart for you" maybe twice. It's not like the film is hugely difficult to understand, it's that people don't even try to understand it.

>>79589941
>No amount of heroic acts done before, or after can rectify the death of thousands of people, parents causing broken families in the several thousands.
not that poster but doesn't BvS address this?

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>>79586842
watched it 13 times. there is no better. only darkness.

>>79590203
No, it doesn't. It tries to acknowledge it, all the while people cheer him on when he arrives.

That is NOT reality. His presence to find out who he was awoke his father's ship which alerted enemies to terraform Earth. Which he manages to stop, but in the same act topples several dozens of buildings.

Let's compare to 9-11, two building occupied by roughly 3,000 people, but in MOS dozens of buildings go down, meaning dozens of thousands. Maybe up to 12,000 people dead, 12,000 families (probably much more) destroyed because of Superman's presence on Earth.

Who would be happy about a man bringing on over 12,000 dead people, and broken families? No one that I can think of, but because Superman is known as an iconic hero in previous versions we're expected to view him as the same iconic hero. That is not reality. That's movie BS expecting us to like him because he is Superman.

>>79589901
Why exactly would this humanize Superman in Batman's eyes when it's already established that Superman has saved many people over the course of two years to make up for bringing Zod to Earth's doorstep?

And you can't just say "you just don't understand" when the point of contention is whether or not the movie properly conveyed the motivations behind the MARTHA scene...unless this is some roundabout way to say that it was poorly conveyed without actually saying it.

>>79590495
>destroys dozens of buildings
I see you haven't seen the flick. Are you just roleplaying Batfleck? I doubt very man people would resent Superman. Especially since if you weren't near Metropolis or the Indian Ocean you would not be affected by Zod's machines. You would however be astonished that a god saved the world. And since then I bet he saved more people from calamity. It's not like there was a sequence in the sequel of him doing more heroic acts across the globe or anything. Pretty autistic that you need this spelled out to you.

>>79590173
Or the movie doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless you read fan theories that are on the same level as a WMG page on tvtropes.

>>79590815
>I doubt very man people would resent Superman.
They would since he caused millions in property damage and likely killed dozens of thousands of people during his fight with Zod, both in Smallville and in Metropolis.

What you're saying is that the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki should be worshipping America for ending the war before it could kill millions of people, as opposed to the hundreds of thousands who died as a result of the explosion and the subsequent fallout.
>Pretty autistic that you need this spelled out to you.
Not nearly as autistic as expecting people who lost family to an alien slugfest not to resent his presence for causing the shit to happen in the first place.

>>79590951
>>What you're saying is that the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki should be worshipping America for ending the war
Nope in my post I actually said that everyone outside of the areas affected by Zod's machines would be sucking his dick. But hey if you're just trying to argue I reckon people even in those zones wouldn't put the blame on Superman.

>>79590999
Dude, even Americans were outraged once they saw what the nukes could do, it changed the face of war as we know it even though we were nowhere near the blast zone.

The correct response to Superman's kerfluffle would basically amount to 24/7 news stations questioning whether or not Superman was working with Zod while subtly implying that Superman's presence is a threat to national security, not fucking worshiping him or building a statue.

Considering that the Avengers have averted several galactic level threats yet still got hit by the Accords when they were only directly responsible for Ultron...it kinda raises the question of why people would be more willing to forgive Superman's fuckup when the reality of the situation would be the opposite.

And to be honest, the only reason why this is so difficult to gloss over is because the DCEU was supposed to be a serious and gritty look at the DC universe as a whole.

>>79590495
Dude. He SACRIFICIED HIS LIFE, to kill a monster that was the product of his homeworld, to save a people that he has no ties to whatsoever, other than his adopted mother and girlfriend. Do you remember this line in the third act?:

>"This thing, is from another world... My world."

Superman's tone in his voice implies disgust and resentment with anything remotely Kryptonian. He understands that all the problems the Earth faces is because of his presence no matter what good he does, he fully accepts that responsibility towards the end of the film. Him dying to save the world is his way of saying "I'm sorry" to humanity.

>>79589410
I call my mother by her first name when telling people about her.

>>79591162
>He SACRIFICIED HIS LIFE, to kill a monster that was the product of his homeworld, to save a people that he has no ties to whatsoever, other than his adopted mother and girlfriend.
Do you think that matters one fucking bit? If this world was being serious and realistic, news media would run scandels on how Superman was actually in league with Zod's forces and how all the alien threats that he fights off are actually in league with him to lower earth's guard for when he goes rogue and decides to murder humanity while their back is turned.

It wouldn't probably been a more interesting story if it was about G. Gordon Godfrey slandering Superman's good name while Superman struggles to fix his reputation with humanity, who is still deathly afraid of him while cursing his name for the innumerable casualties he caused.

>>79591234
t. adopted

>It wouldn't probably been a more interesting story if it was about G. Gordon Godfrey slandering Superman's good name while Superman struggles to fix his reputation with humanity, who is still deathly afraid of him while cursing his name for the innumerable casualties he caused.
Replace Glorious Godfrey with Lex Luthor and Bruce Wayne, you now have the story for BvS. How can you not see this?

>>79591451
t. delusional DCuck

>>79589692
>Clark is doing research on Bruce/Batman and discovers his mother's name.
So the secret identity of the worlds greatest detective and one of the smartest men on earth was found out by a junior reporter?

>>79591316

Over 12,000 people dead
Over 12,000 families destroy

1 Superman dead

No, still not reconcilable.

Also, it is worth considering that in BVS Batman is seen using weapons, and fighting in ways that have also killed people which is a HUGE departure from previous Batman incarnations, and the entire history of Batman. The reason law enforcement never arrests Batman is because he never killed anyone in previous Batman comics, or adaptations.

So, just as MOS destroys Superman, BVS also destroys Batman and what the characters stood for which was to NEVER kill anyone no matter how cruel the person, or criminal.

>>79589275
Don't use Scott Keith throwaway lines from over a decade ago you unoriginal fuck.

>>79589952
>but failed because Bats kept instigating conflict with his various traps.
He had the two, that were laughably ineffective. Superman doesn't have tantrums and lose control, if he did that there wouldn't be an unsnapped neck on the eastern seaboard.

>>79590815
>Especially since if you weren't near Metropolis
I guess 9/11 wasn't that big of a deal unless you lived in downtown Manhattan, right?

>>79586842
True.

Even true with the Ultimate Edition.

>>79589936
Bruce was too blinded by paranoia, hatred and mild PTSD to asses the situation rationally. This is all shown in the movie.

>>79590787
Read above. It took a personal connection of sorts for him to see that Superman is still a man in a certain sense of the word, and not some "being" or "other", or a force of nature. Pay attention next time

>>79591646
What's funny about Batman killing people is how is makes even less sense for Batman to kill the Joker now. Like he can beat him to within an inch of his life and knock his teeth out but he can't, I dunno, murder him?

>>79591646
>The reason law enforcement never arrests Batman is because he never killed anyone
The reason they never caught him was because he was the goddamned batman. No mick flatfoot walking the beat is going to handcuff batman and bring him in.
Don't forget that gotham was corrupt as fuck, and outside of Jim Gordon most of the police force wanted his ass. I mean that was literally the whole point of Year One, that they were the only two guys in town not on the take, and were targets by everyone.

>>79591781
So if that's the case then why didn't Batman fake a disaster and place a tracker on him while he was "saving" people from a "disaster?"

If he's that unhinged then I wouldn't necessarily say that him influencing a fake robbery or a fake kidnapping would've been out of character for him.

>>79591781
>Batman
>not objectively and dispassionately accessing everything at a glance
I can deal with batman shooting people better than I can handle turnyourbrainoffbro batman. Even in dark knight returns where he's literally murdering people without giving a fuck, he's still got his eye on the big picture.

>>79591805
>I mean that was literally the whole point of Year One, that they were the only two guys in town not on the take, and were targets by everyone.
Comic continuity has no influence on the DCEU. You might as well be referencing fanfiction.

>>79591895
see
>>79591646
>a HUGE departure from previous Batman incarnations, and the entire history of Batman. The reason law enforcement never arrests Batman is because he never killed anyone in previous Batman comics, or adaptations.
Specifically talking about batman in the previous adaptations you gimboid.

>>79592299
The thing is, the worst that Batman does in most of those previous adaptations is act as a vigilante.

As opposed to this continuity where he's killing people left and right and branding people like they are cattle at a farmer's market. Any law enforcement worth their salt is going to arrest the crazy bat person who is acting no better than the people he's putting away.

>>79586842
Counterpoint: There are many, many better movies you could choose to watch instead of sitting through this a second time.

>>79590028
kek dcucks always defensive

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>>79586842
I honestly think I like it more with each viewing. I notice things I did see before. I get used to certain characters like Lex(even end up liking him.) Certain themes make more sense. It's weird. I never had a capeshit movie do this to me before.

>>79593260
I felt the same way rewatching GotG.

Do people unironically believe the Martha scene was well-executed?

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>>79589066
Psst jews ruin everything they touch.

If you can sit through M-MARTHA WHAT DID YOU SAY WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME once without breaking into hysterical laughter or walking out of/stopping the flick, you should really just stop watching cinema.

If you can do it twice, you should be gassed.

>>79593572
Considering where we are, I wouldn't be surprised if a few autists looked at some falseflags and thought that they were genuine.

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Superman is a no nonsense boy scout who also carries the weight of the world on his shoulders.

FUCK YOU SNYDER YOU KIKE, HE'S NOT A MURDERING EMOPATH

>>79593572
Not particularly but it didn't ruin my enjoyment. I still liked the movie.

>>79589305
what if Doomsday's mom was named Martha?

>>79593572
They could have fixed it with one simple scene:

>Clark Kent reads an article about the death of Bruce Wayne's parents and notices their mothers have the same name.

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>>79593661
This. I rewatched Superman 78 the other day and I was absolutely floored at how much more effective it was at establishing the character. Especially how they treat pa kent's death.
In the movie, and the comics, he does of a heart attack and the whole point is that with all of superman's power he's not a god. There are some things he just can't do, and so uses that as is sense of obligation to always act rightly.
In MoS, its an entirely preventable death that doesn't mean anything.
>Stop my invincible son, its more important that I risk my life for a dog, instead of letting my much more fast and agile teenage son who coincidentally not be hurt, go... Or you know, we just get a new dog later afterwards
Pa Kent committed suicide in MoS for literally no reason.

>>79593919
That would only work if Superman knew that Batman was Bruce Wayne.

>>79593960
He knows its bruce when he punches his ironman mask in half. Also xray vision.

>>79593960
He finds out at Luthor's party. Before they actually fight Superman even calls him Bruce while he's in the Batsuit. He knows.

>>79593978
>>79593989
So why exactly doesn't Batman know who Superman is when he's been obsessing over him for the past two years? Hell, why doesn't Bruce tag him with a tracker at some point?

>>79594167
He parts his hair on the other side.

>>79594167
>glasses

>>79593948
I agree. Both MoS, and BvS completely dismantle what was admirable the characters.
In BvS Superman is a bully and Batman another kind of bully. Neither demonstrate what it is to be a hero.

But this is what the studios believe is necessary to be relevant to todays audience, by transforming heros into killers, by using music, and vfx to drown out the lack of morality.

>>79594210
>>79594298
That has literally never stopped Batman in any other continuity besides this one. If you argue that BvS wasn't meant to emulate this fact then I have to ask, why is Batman so retarded in this movie?

Like taken at face value, this is the worst adaptation of Batman yet.

>>79586842
this movie sucked at first but after some time to heal and watching the Extended Cut, i really liked it. the theatrical cut is bullshit. lets take out 30 min of the plot. yeah okay. movie should have only been 2 hrs anyway.

>>79591760
this. because of the extended cut it went from a 6/10 to a 7/10. imo anyway.

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>>79593948
Sorry to sound like a /pol/ack but this version of Superman is very...jewish. It's devoid of any humanity, his reasons for existing is for some hammy connection to jesus yet none of the actions he takes in the film I would say Jesus would do. It's so fake.

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>>79594383
>bruce goes to clarks funeral
>doesn't know who he is

>>79594520
For me it's the opposite.

It starts out as a 6/10 movie but it becomes a 4/10 movie with the extended cut because a) Snyder decided to cut scenes that actually addressed a lot of the plot holes in the theatrical release and b) he wasted time with scenes that could've easily been cut out of the movie that had no relevance to the plot, such as the terrorist scene, the africa scene, and the senate bombing scene.

It starts off meh and it gets worse knowing that the movie could've easily been an hour shorter if a more talented director was at the helm.

>>79593572
well-executed? no. but i understood what was going on and why Batman stopped.

>>79594596
The problem with Snyder is he crams in way too much unneeded shit in his movies, his movies feel bloated and as a result the studio has to cut bits out to make it shorter.
The plot of people losing faith in Superman would have worked simply off the events of Man of Steel, Africa and the senate bombing subplot were gigantic wastes of time and would have shaved an hour off the movie, allowing for more development on Superman's character.

>>79594596
point taken. there was A LOT of shit that did not need to be in this.

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>>79594552
>It's devoid of any humanity
Frankly that's horseshit. What's more human then using your x ray vision to look at Lois Lane's panties?
He wasn't supposed to be a christ figure, that's snyder's horseshit influence.

I enjoyed the BvS extended version a lot. It didn't feel like a cookie cutter Marvel movie. Suicide squad was worst movie I've ever seen though.

>>79594765
That's the problem with the script. It's like 2 1/2 movies worth of material jammed into one with no subtlety.
There are parts of the movie that I would have liked if they fleshed them out. Like Lex's whole plot to turn the public against superman. That's a fucking plot of a superman movie! And that's a great way to introduce Lex and his style of villainy. He's not a physical match for superman, but he's more than an intellectual one, but with more influence and connections.
Have superman testifying in congress and answering for his crimes be a climax of the movie. Superman could deliver a great speech about how he was raised and the beliefs instilled in him by his adopted father, and how important it is to be human. Have him conflicted about the collateral damage he caused, even if it wasn't preventable, he's fucking superman. His defining character moments deal with his absolute power still not being enough to save everyone. He's externally vulnerable, but internally he's a very thoughtful, sensitive, and humble guy. It's literally the reason he's mild mannered reporter Clark Kent, and not Chad Thundercock.

>>79595090
Not enough explosions and destruction porn, NEXT!

I didn't like BvS as much on my second rewatch although it's still one of the best superhero movies since the bar isn't exactly high.

MoS is the closest thing to a perfect superhero movie though.

>>79591867
What? To do what? Why? What are you talking about?

>>79591871
It's not turnyourbrainoffbro, it's a "character arc". He's not being dumb, he's just not being 100% rational and that's fine

>>79588935
Branagh truly is gifted

>>79595327
>To do what?
To place a tracker on Superman so he could later track him down and figure out where he goes after saving the day.

Pay attention next time.

>>79595327
>he's just not being 100% rational and that's fine
That would be fine by literally any other character in the history of fiction except for Batman.
That would be like goku saying "Nah, I don't feel like fighting, my wife needs me to do chores, you guys go have fun without me."

>>79595356
>all those dutch angles for no reason
Stick to the based Shakespeare adaptations Kenneth.

>>79595327
>It's not turnyourbrainoffbro, it's a "character arc".
That's a bit of a stretch. "character arc" would imply that Batman rose, fell, then rose again.

In reality, the movie basically follows Batman when he's in act 2 of his character arc and hastily warps him over to act 3 once the director realized that he didn't leave enough time for the Doomsday fight.

>>79593572

SHould of had Bruce's dad say to Bruce "save martha" before she's gunned down in front of him, so when Superman says "Save Martha" it actually means something other than them sharing the same name

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What the fuck is Snyder's obsession with Amy Adams/Lois Lane, and how does she always teleport to where Supes is and knows the plot before the audience?

>>79595448
>I thought she was with you.
BITCH YOU JUST E-MAILED WONDER SELETON!

>>79595505
>What the fuck is Snyder's obsession with Amy Adams/Lois Lane
That's the one thing I agree with snyder on. BvS should have just been 90 minutes of amy adams in the bath. With that wet slippery tittymeat everywhere.

>>79588329
It wasn't about the names being the same, it was that Wayne saw Superman as nothing more than what he really is; A kid, with a mother.

It was a stupid line. He could have said "Lex has my mother" and the impact would have been the same, if not more concise and clear.

Snyder doesn't even know what he is doing. He has an otherwise brilliant scene setup, and he doesn't even understand the dialogue in it.

>>79595557
I love product placement scenes to establish a nonexistent romance.

I meant more in the fact that she somehow appears wherever Superman is during fight scenes, even though he is moving at whatever speed he is moving. She appears at the Courthouse, she appears at the Mansion, she knows Doomsday is Kryptonian and that somehow the green spear will kill it.

>>79586842
>DCucks

It was ok right up to the twist where both their mothers have the same name so that means they need to stop fighting each other and fight some other stupid looking monster instead

>>79595675
>I love product placement scenes to establish a nonexistent romance.
Is Amy Adam's soft white tittymeat a product? Where can I get some of it? How much? Asking for a friend.

Honestly though Lois has always had an unreasonable ability to be where the story needs her to be. Usually they just gloss over it with "Oh, she's doing a story!"
Snyder uses her as an excuse to have exposition delivered directly to the audience, because the script was awful.

>>79586842
fuck no.

>>79595602
>"Lex has my mother"
Doesn't he say that before the fight starts?

>>79595602
>It was a stupid line. He could have said "Lex has my mother" and the impact would have been the same, if not more concise and clear.
why are capeshit fans so fucking stupid?

>>79595675
lois confirmed for metahuman

Should I watch this flick just to see how bad it really is? Will it improve the experience if I smoke a joint before I watch it?

>>79595967
No, he only says that there's no time and that Batman doesn't understand.

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>>79589567
marvel drones pretending this post doesn't exist.

>>79596186
Oh right, I always forget how stupid everyone always has to be in snyder joints.

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>>79596186

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>>79596058
not so fast, you DC fucking shits

>>79593592
yeah, how dare the Jews ruin Superman and Batman, iconic comic characters created by... oh wait.

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>>79589567
>Marvel: "We focus on CRISIS tho"

>>79596152
watch the extended cut and smoke 2. pace yourself, its 3 hours long.

>>79589066
Rather than build the universe they rushed everything and still have yet to make a good film.

If you are going to Batman vs Superman and throwing in Doomsday along with the death of Superman in your second fucking film you have already.

Forget the dumb fucking forced footage of fastboy and the disabled black guy. it hurts to even remember Momoa starring at the lens for 5 minutes.

Already throwing in random visions of darkseid.

fucking hell just reboot the entire thing and put someone with a brain in charge.

>>79597170
They rushed the universe-building stuff because MoS wasn't as profitable as they hoped. Otherwise they might have done another standalone Superman sequel before going "ahhh, we gotta include Batman now!"

Rebooting the universe would just lead to the same rushed shit if the first movie doesn't rake in the cash.

>>79597170
Well, I think, if WW and JL is so trash as people claims, we gonna have reboot, since working on EVERY new film isn't even started yet (except Aquaman maybe, but I guess they're just on the start of the way)

>>79597296
Critical reception doesn't matter much, BvS and Suh Sah Squah were shit but both still grossed between $700 and $900 mil.

As lone as the new movies are profitable, the universe will continue.

>>79586842
You make daily threads about this piece of shit not because you're trying to convince people, but because you're trying to convince yourself. Also you have OCD.

>>79597413
>>79597296
WW will definitely suck and probably bomb. JL looks shitty and made Affleck say fuck it and drop out from directing, so it's not hopeful either. Doubt Aquaman will be any good, its aquaman for god's sake.

DC is fucked.

>>79589044
Hi, OP. If you pretend to be enough people, you will save Snyder's farm!

>>79589292
That's the entire DCU fanbase right there.

>>79597413
BvS groessed so much because of two iconic heroes in the title plus name itself was literally like youtube death battle clickbait
SS grossed so much because of huge marketing and Joker.
Nobody cares about WW and Aquaman. And since everyone hated SS and BvS, people don't care/hate DC logo on the movies. It's just like reverse marvel logo nowdays.
>>79597513
DC is winning literally everywhere except modern cinematic actually

>>79589066
>DC
>have superior capeshit universe
>have suprerior and iconic characters
Not really. They have some good villains but most of their heroes are superman recolors. Vertigo is fucking awesome, though, maybe they should hire decent directors and make those into movies.

>>79589567
>no one shown dying, in fact most of the movies go out of the way to say that they saved everyone
Did you miss civil war? Why even bring up Marvel while struggling to defend a different movie? Sad.

>>79589882
That's every day, I wonder what possesses people to keep entertaining these /r/dc_cinematic refugees. They're mostly autists and mental patients.
How many times does /tv/ have to eviscerate and destroy Snyder's joints? It must be up in the thousands now. I'm all for discussing movies in detail but these stoolies do not warrant this kind of attention.
And once they're done getting their movie laughed at, they start another thread pretending nothing happened. And YOU let them.

>>79597413
>As lone as the new movies are profitable, the universe will continue.

Every movie of any franchise loses roughly 25 to 30% of its audience with each installment. Batman, Superman, Marvel movies, Star Wars, Ghostbusters, and every franchise is wearing itself thin, and aging fast.

At this rate by 2020 no one will want anything to do with remakes, or tired old franchise. No one will want to polish those old turds anymore.

>>79597689
Flash, Martian Manhunter, Atom, Aquaman (no kidding, he have one of the best capeshit comics since 2011), Swamp thing, Deadman, Hawkman, few Green Lanterns etc, half of Bat-family is good. And Vertigo is part of DC, so...

>>79597957
>Flash, Martian Manhunter,
Stop reading there, you don't start a list of DC's finest with this trash. Vertigo is an imprint of DC, most of their stories there are completely separate from mainline DC unless stated otherwise.

>>79598100
And Flash and MM are trash because?...

>>79598301
Flash is so ridiculously overpowered it's impossible for him to become relatable. It's even worse when they brought back Mary-Sue Barry Allen for no reason, because at least Wally had hubris as a weakness. Martian Manhunter isn't a character with a personality, he's just a collection of superpowers with a dull backstory. Shit, I guess at least they're not green lantern.

>>79586842
Good joke tovarich, you had me there for moment.

>>79598616
Well, Fox managed to make blant Quicksilver work. Flash has much more background and iconic stories. Zoom shit is enough to make decent story if adapt it properly.
>Martian Manhunter isn't a character with a personality
I guess you haven't read Morrison's JLA.
>I guess at least they're not green lantern.
And haven't read Johns run.
Why even talk about characters if you've read wiki about them and that's all.

>>79598731
>Well, Fox managed to make blant Quicksilver work.
It worked because of the context, he was a blank slate and not much of a charcter at all. Not even his connection to Magneto managed to give him a personality.
>Geoff Johns
Strike two, all he did was try to redeem a galactic-scale mass murderer and fail miserably. The only time Hal Jordan was even remotely interesting was when he was the spectre.
The space care bear corps is some of the most inane shit ever put in comics.
DC has had some really good green arrow, batman and even aquaman runs in the last 15 years or so, and you try to force Geoff fucking Johns' horseshit on people. Shame on you.

>>79599316
>implying Johns GL run is not one of the best capeshit ever made.
>try to redeem a galactic-scale mass murderer and fail miserably
I'm pretty sure everyone liked his run and forget about Hal being that way.
And Inot even talking about Hal. Kyle, Guy and John are good there too. Also Sinestro Coprs War is one of the best event of all time.
And I said about Aquaman already (which was written by Johns too, lol), Batman is iconic and good by default. And GA is just his rip-off who is tryhard liberal. I like Olly but he would be Hawkeye tier for big screen.

>>79599535
>>implying Johns GL run is not one of the best capeshit ever made.
We're not going to agree on this, the entire thing was silver-age masturbatory horseshit. It read like fanfiction. It's something you'd expect from Mark Waid or something, except he can write sometimes.