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>the first seven episodes are slow but then it really takes off

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>the first seven episodes are slow but then it really takes off
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>the realistic opening 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan makes for the rest being schlock propaganda
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>it has 10 episodes
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>>79559714
steins;gate
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>>79559714

The Young Pope
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>>79559714
If a show doesn't hook me in the first 5 minutes I bail.
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>Show's B-plot involving teenagers is more engaging than A-plot involving children
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>>79559714
Ygotas
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breaking bad
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>the first few seasons really suck then it gets good but you have to watch everything
>every star trek thread
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>>79559820
Im a bit more generous and generally give it 2 or 3 episodes. Still quit The Wire
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>>79559714

The first season is great, but then seasons 2-18 are all terrible, but it's worth sitting through all of it for the great finale!
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>>79559714

This shit needs to stop. People need to go back to series like Lost, 24 and Prison Break and learn that a series can be engaging from episode one.
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>It's a great show you should watch it
>7 seasons of 23 episodes each
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>I stopped watching The Office after steve carrell left
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>>79559768
>the first twelve* episodes are torturous*
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>It's the best series ever, but you have to watch all 176 episodes five times to fully appreciate it
>It will be boring the first four times, but then it will all be worth it
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>>79560700
>not stopping after season 2
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>>79560661
pepe have you been working out man? you look good
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>Six episode """"""""""seasons"""""""""""
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>>79560747
Better than sherlock which has 3 episode seasons which take a year to make
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>filmed art having "episodes"
>filmed art having "seasons"
when will this meme die?
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>>79560747
>some seasons are broken into part 1 and part 2
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looks like legion is following this trope`
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>I'm too autistic to follow a show for 3 episodes of important exposition because there aren't any explosions in them
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>>79559903

What? First three episodes are great and anything but slow. You must be thinking of season 3.
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>>79560858
>writers put "important exposition" in their show

ouch
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>>79560747

>2 seasons + Christmas special box set
>13 episodes
>no 3rd season ever
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>>79560858

If you need three hours of exposition in order to make a story great later, you're a bad writer and should leave the job to someone with actual talent.
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>It's mostly a 12 year old boy whining for 2 episodes but then it really takes off
>then the 12 year old whines a lot more
>then there is a movie and it really takes off
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>>79560900
>season ended on a cliff hanger because the writers were so sure they were gonna get another season
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>>79559768
Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.

First episodes are shit, then it picks up, then endless 8 happens, the it picks up again.

At least the Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya is consistently good throughout.
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>>79559845
>what is Stranger Things, Alex!>>79560687
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>>79559714
What's wrong with this? I've personally gone through dozens of uninteresting hours just for an interesting finale, and honestly it's worth it. Once you've watched enough things and realize life is too long to have everything in it be immediately interesting you realize it's worth making the investment just to get a glimpse at something original again.
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>>79561213
That's because your time is worthless.
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>the first 45 episodes are slow but then it really takes off
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>>79561226
As opposed to the people who work for 60-80 hours a week doing something they don't like? I don't think so, and judging by your watching etiquette you haven't seen anything worthwhile.
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>>79560718
>things no one ever said
>neckbeard contrarian probably twisted someone saying "it's better on the second watch" into this

lol
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>each season has 20+ episodes + a christmas special
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>>79561637

It's an exaggeration.
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>>79561947

2004: Seasons had 20-24 episodes
2010: Seasons had ~12 episodes
2017: Seasons have 6-8 episodes

What went wrong?
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>>79559714
Bojack Horseman literally
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>>79560808
Yeah let's be honest here, the bulk of every TV show is filler nonsense. I have seen over 9000 tv kinos and I am beginning to see beyond the pixels.
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>>79562046
should call them series like in britain

why do you bother with fall/summer schedules and the likes
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>>79562124
Why do you bother with literally 3 episodes per series.
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>>79559714
literally black sails.
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I've had multiple people tell me that parks and rec gets a lot better after I power through the first season
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the wire
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>>79561100
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>>79563338
it's true though.

parks and rec finds it's footing midway through the first season. I like the first season though, although most of /tv/ seems to hate it
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>>79560669
>...a series can be engaging from episode one.

Like The West Wing and the (entry level) anime I have seen, such as Bebop and Evangelion.
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>>79562064
I didn't think the first episodes were particularly bad but the show doesn't seem to get any better.
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>great show, just don't watch the last season and it's fantastic
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>>79561166
Anime work ddifferently than American sseries
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>>79565518
The Wire, Deadwood.
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>>79560798
wtf
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>>79559714
The Man in the High Castle
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>the first 700m are low but then it really takes off
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>>79559714
I give a show 5 eps at the absolute maximum if my friends like it. I did that with Supernatural and stopped after 5 because it was utter garbage
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>>79559768
>I came here to post this
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>>79559714
I just watch all the episodes rated 8.9 or higher on IMDB, no point in watching all the useless trash episodes.
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>>79559799
please the young pope starts off as pure kino.

Here's a site more your speed

youtube.com
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>>79559903
s1 is easily the best season.
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>>79559714
>the first two seasons suck but you need to sit through them because the backstory really pays off afterwards
every scifi show it seems
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>>79566023
This. Breaking Bad heavily declines after Tuco.
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>>79565518
>it's my favorite show, just skip seasons 2, 5, 7, & 8
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>>79560858
I had to drop the leftovers because of this.
Such bad writing man.
Every single time a character opened their mouths I wanted to blow my brains out. but then that teenager took off all her clothes that was the only good part.
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>>79562046
name a single good show with 20-24 episode season.
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>>79566174
30 rock
seinfeld
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>>79563338
Just start with season 2 anon.

Then stop after season 5.

The show is never really all that good. but it wasn't the worst thing I've ever watched.

S6 and 7 are worse than S1 though so be sure to avoid them.
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They're great episodes in retrospect but it took me getting through the first season of Mad Men before I started loving it.
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>>79560669
Those shows are all trash. Like I'm lmao-ing at you over here. Are you a suburban house mom? Or an inner city poor person waiting on his welfare? Because you have no excuse to be watching such garbage otherwise.

Try watching a real show.
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>>79566238
alright now name one that isn't a comedy.

comedy is for plebs
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>>79566350
if i answer will you move the goalposts again?
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>>79566128
Unirorically take that back.
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>>79559714

Can't be the young pope, the first episodes are INDISOLUTED KINO
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>Dude, it's not boring, it's a bottle episode, the fly it a metaphor yo!
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>>79566363
no. But I'll almost certainly tell you whatever you picked was garbage. I thought I was hoisted by my own pitard when I thought of Twilight Zone but then I remembered those seasons are 30+ episodes long.
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>"You cant get the twist beforehand its so smart"
>"The movie wont be entertaining if I told you the spoilers"
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>>79566374
I got partway into the 3rd episode.

I'm sure it probably gets better (it would unironcally have to, the beginning is so mediocre) but I don't care to stick around for some second rate tv show when there is still plenty of movies I would rather watch.
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>>79566312
Please, list off all the 'partition' television out there xD , not that anon btw, just very curious - pretty sure I've got your list in my mind already.
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>>79566432
Is "The Fly" the best pleb filter to come out of BrBa?
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>>79566174
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>>79566609
Ah shitposting. The Plebs final line of defense.

Sorry you have worst taste than the local PTA meeting.
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>>79566710
I'd spot you the first season but the show overall is pretty bad.
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>>79566312

I'm sorry I enjoy shows where things actually happen and that might even give you a thrill now and then.
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>>79566740
www.youtube.com

Here this is a site with user's more your speed. I'm sure you'll make a great addition to the community!
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Does 6 feet under get better? I watched the first 4 episodes and there some parts I liked but some of the writing was kinda bad, and the GF character was absolutely killing me.
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>>79559714
>>79563356
Came here to post this. The Wire Season 1 is incredibly slow but worth it.
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>>79566174
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does sneaky pete ever get better?
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>>79566828
If you're fine with watching a relatively mediocre show with several excellent moments for arguably the best finale in television history then keep going, if you're not and can't stand the soap opera aspects then stop right now.
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>>79566855
i can't do it
all the hype i heard about it
first episode was so fucking boring
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>>79566865
Alright. Alright. You got me.

But can you name another?

Remember non-comedy.
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>>79566901
I felt the same way. Trust me, stick with it. The payoff is worth it.
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>>79566901
>>79566855

meh I found season 1 to be terrible. What was worth it about it?

The only good parts were with the nigs. All the cop scenes were total trash.
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>>79565518
>it's a great show, just don't watch the last 20 seasons
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>>79566904

Avatar
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>>79566890
Its not about the soap opera aspects. It was the cringey writing that was killing me.

Does that get better? I can deal with mediocrity. Especially if its occasionally spelled with compelling moments, comedy and some excellent bits. I can't deal with "jesus christ I could have written this better"
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>>79567014
...
Opinion discarded
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>>79566904
24
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>>79567014
Fucking weebshit, dude? Really? I'm not an autistic manchild, so sorry, no.
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>>79567083

This.

>>79567095

>Avatar
>Weebshit
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>>79567083
>>79566312
>>79566715

There you go that's my opinion of 24.
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>>79566715
Hello, I notice you didn't answer the question I asked, that being your list of "patrician" television.

Please, provide your list on proceed to concede your argument, thank you.
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>>79567095
>American made cartoon
>Weebshit
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>dude you should watch this series it's so good I swear
>150 episodes
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>It's the most popular show on television and its amazing as long as you ignore the most of season 1 and all of season 2
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>>79565757
Each episode is like a movie. A short movie but still.
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>>79567138

Not enough slow and heavy drama for you?
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>>79567327
if a show isn't going to bother with being good it could at least be entertaining. 24 puts me to sleep.
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>>79566904
NCIS
Law and Order
Stargate SG-1
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Getting people into Doctor Who is difficult because some of it is genuinely the worst shit ever broadcast on television, while some of it is pure kino, and it also suffers from running for 50 years and having important bits of lore scattered throughout the seasons

Red Dwarf is similar, the first two seasons are slow and "boring" but totally set up the characters for all the hilarious jokes and situations later, and do have some stand out moments, but normies are put off by the slow pacing and cheap look
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>>79567418
Are you by chance living in an old folks home or a single mother?
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>>79567424
you're not special, you're just a tryhard.
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>>79559714
>>79560661
>>79560700
>>79560747
>>79560815
>>79560900
dumb frogposter
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>>79559714
Give me 573 shows where this happens
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>>79566174
Lost
X-Files
Twilight Zone
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>>79567549
lmao did you even read any posts after the post you just replied to?
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>There's a fucking year between seasons
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>>79567569
ain't nobody got time for that
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>>79567549
Lost is garbage overall

x-files so far has been the only valid answer. Still there's only 4 good seasons out of 9 now.

The Twilight zone has over 30 episodes a season
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>>79565850
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>The first 3 season of 24 episodes each one are shit with some goods episodes in between
>But then it gets good for realz!
Every science fiction show ever
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>>79559714

>its really bad but I watch it every week
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>just skip every 3rd episode and watch the season finale backwards and you'll see its actually good. Also don't watch the first 10 seasons or the last 10 seasons
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>>79567194
>anime clone
>not weebshit
lol
Do you also think Westerners can't be weebs?
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>the first 3 seasons are pretty negligable, you can skip those
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>>79566574
the leftovers is a fucking amazing show in my opinion. but i can see why some people wouldn't like it.

that show hits me in the feels
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>The only great episode is S07E13, but you have to watch everything before and after to enjoy it, but it will be worth it!
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>>79568263
Maybe it really is worth it.
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>You have to read all the books, the original three movies, these comics, and two animated cartoons to appreciate the trilogy pleb!
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You can argue that a slow pilot is allowable, but absolutely not more than that.
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>>79561166
That's why you watch it in release order
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>>79562046
>What went wrong?
That each show has to have a similar number of episodes per season. Marvel Netflix shows for example would be so much better with only 6-8 episodes per season because they're so dragged out at 13, while many comedies can easily have 24.
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>>79566174
About half of the good comedies ever written.
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>>79567988
>Its shit but I just want to see how it ends after watching it for so long!
Naruto in a nutshell
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>>79559799
The Young Pope is the exact reverse
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>>79568657
>Naruto in a nutshell
Try "most long running anime in a nutshell"
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>>79559714
>the show doesn't get good until the fifth season
At the end of the day, The Shield's still pretty rewatchable
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>>79559714
>the first episodes/season is great, but after getting the first real storyline out of the way, the show loses steam and totally goes off the rails
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>>79566174
batman tas had like 100 episode seasons.
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>>79560747
>six episode season
>has fillers
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>>79559714
>the first seven episodes are action packed with meaningful plot and character development
>rest of the season is meaningless filler
>plot is rushed and finished unsatisfactorily in last 3 episodes
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>>79563419
Deadwood didn't end on a cliffhanger, they also knew they weren't getting a third season well before filming
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>Last two episodes are so bad you have to make an additional movie, ignoring those episodes, to give it a proper ending
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>>79568888
the movie was really good, though.
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>>79569016
But it shouldn't have been made in the first place. Those last 2 episodes shouldn't have been the most disappointing things ever.
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>>79567224
is that alot or a little?
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>>79569101
>He doesn't acknowledge that End of Evangelion is one of the greatest films made in the last thirty years
>He's speaking out against weeb culture on 4chan of all fucking places
Can one man be more pleb?
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>>79569848
I don't understand half the shit you're saying, please go back to reddt or whatever website you weirdos congregate on
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>>79569964
>He doesn't realize that his friends on /r/the_donald tricked him into going to the weeb capital of America
>He doesn't realize that he's on a website that is run by a nip and has a Japanese clover loli as it's mascot
I think my last question was just answered.
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>>79570014
Shut up faggot
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>>79567282
What was wrong with season 1?
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>>79567463
Yes i'm living on a single mother, how did you know ?
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>>79560747
>3 episode ""seasons""
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>This five minute short is the best thing ever, but you have to read this 80 book series, watch this 17 season documentary series and attend five stage plays by a Russian theater group in Yaktusk, Siberia. It all sucks, but it'll all be worth it.
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>>79559714
>just turn your brain off
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>>79565518
dexter, but replace last season with anything past season 4
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>>79560846

Sure seems that way. But at least Rachel Keller gives you something to look at.
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>it's a the first three seasons are pretty good for a CW show but heavily declines in quality right after

Every single time
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>>79566174
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>>79568888
Why the fuck is Asuka such a reaction image goldmine?

also checked
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>>79568801

I was so fucking pissed at that. And the finale made me break my recliner I was so angry.
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>the first 8 seasons range from absolute garbage to somewhat decent but it really get's good after that
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>>79571812

I beg to differ. Especially this latest season. The writing has really picked back up after the shitty last season. I am not joking.
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Legend of galactic heroes but replace 8 with 22
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>most of the episodes are shit but people only remember the few good moments and how weeeeird and quirky it was
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>>79572168
Anyone with taste dropped that show like 8 fucking years ago. The only people watching it are girls in love with the two leads or people with absolutely dreadful taste. Who fucking cares?
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Will my season will start to be good after my 28 shitty first seasons?
Why not cancel me if I'm still a virgin?
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>>79571881

Because she's best girl
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>>79568548
The whole point of a pilot is to make first-time viewers want to keep watching.

Leave all the hard exposition to the mid-season episodes. If I'm not engaged by the basic premise and characters, why should I keep watching?
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>>79567282
how can you like the show at all if you skip all the character buildup?
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>>79559714
If anyone says this about a show, the show is bad. It's science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere-exposure_effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effort_justification
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>>79559714
Last season of Better Call Saul
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>>79572260
I think generally pilots these days are pretty strong, but many older shows, that while great, really build slowly.
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>>79572355

How to pilot post 2010:

>Have a sex scene where the woman's tits are shown
>Have a cliffhanger
>Have nothing else happen in the rest of the episode
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>>79560700
Watch it with Dwight as the protagonist, problem solved.
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>>79572192
Fuck you twin peaks is legit good throughout.
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>>79572403
>Have a gay couple
>Have a transgender character
>Have a meta joke
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>>79572523
The 2nd season is mostly bullshit. I dont care about one-eyed women with super-strength or beauty pageants or some bullshit 'box within a box' subplot.
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>>79572559
>have a reddit reference.
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>>79566174
West Wing

Oh wait, you said good.
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>Friends are all huge sci-fi fans
>Can't get them into Dark Matter or The 100 because they start rough
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>show has a quarter finale, mid season finale, and a finale finale each season.
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>>79566023
you spelled s4 wrong
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>>79572834
Name one show, two series, three programs, and one programme that does this.
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>>79572168
>He didn't drop Supernatural after Season 5

nigga WHAT are you doing
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>>79572866
Every AMC and ABC show.
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>>79572848
>liking breaking bad past S2 when 90% of the show's runtime became filler
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>>79572168
My sister still watches that show. What's the point? They've had God himself in it and the boys shanked Death himself. What more could they possibly do?
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>>79559768
>the first 24 episodes are slow
FTFY
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>>79573029
>What's the point?
So girls can rub themselves to Sam and Dean.
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>>79566174
Scrubs
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>>79573152
LOL

Not only are you watching the lowest of the low in watching a """""""comedy"""""""""" you took it a step lower by watching a """"""""""""sitcom"""""""""""

Then that wasn't enough for you. You had to go and find the most mediocre """"""""""""sitcom"""""""""""" ever conceived.
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>>79573303
big bang theory
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>>79566174
The Office.
Seinfeld.
Parks and Rec.
Frasier.
Arrested Development.

Yes most shows that fit this are sitcoms, but so what? Still counts.
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>>79566174
Any network sitcom in the last 60 years
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>>79573441
>AD
is the only good show you listed and it has 1 (one) 24 episode season out of soon to be 5 (five) seasons

>The Reddit
>Seinreddit
>Parks and Reddit
>Reddit
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>>79573504
Anon. I said good.
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>>79573552
>you enjoy laughing so you must be reddit
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>>79559714

>no seriously, get through the first 4 seasons and then you will be hooked

Fuck Breaking Bad
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>>79573601
You're at the very least a brainlet.

I enjoy laughing as well. I make myself laugh constantly with my own thoughts. None of those shows you listed outside of AD and Seinfeld made me laugh once. And I've seen every episode of every one of those shows.

Seinfeld is too short on laughs/halfway decent seasons (seriously only season 4-7 are acceptable) however for me to consider it good
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>>79566059
Sadly true
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>>79573645
I watched 3 season, last two espidoes in 2x speed, before dropping that shit. What a borefest for christ sake.
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>>79559714
>a series has a lot seasons
>more bad ones that good ones
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>>79560747
>3 episode seasons
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>>79572756
Is Dark Matter worth it? I watched the first 5 or 6 episodes when it came out, but dropped it for no reason. There was just too much other shit to watch.
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>>79573138

>implying it's only girls
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>>79565850
Underrated
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>>79574053
>because it doesn't have some fuck spamming reaction images its totes underrated

we all saw it and laughed. this isn't reddit where the karma trickles down
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>>79574035
I'm saying the point is so that girls can touch themselves to them, men doing it is just incidental.
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>>79574097
I didn't laugh at all.
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>>79574135
I exhaled quickly through my nose
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>>79573821
i got through 4.5 seasons before trying to kill myself and realizing it wasn't worth it.
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>first two seasons are shit but it gets really good

Why do people do this? I drop a show like 3-4 episodes in if I don't find it engaging or interesting. Why are normies such masochists?
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>>79574257
Normies can just be on their phones or have sex or whatever the fuck it is that normies do instead of appreciating the thing they are watching.
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>>79560900
>>79561100
Does Marco Polo fit this description?
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>>79566174
Regular Show had 40 episode seasons, they were only 10 minute episodes though
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>>79574859
Also the show was crap after 10 episodes
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>>79566736
retard
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>>79573669
low

energy
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>first 3 episodes are promising them it becomes a boring pretentious mess
>ending just copies game of thrones

Westworld was shit
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>>79559799
american and/or woman detected
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wow, this scene was filmed in a single shot !
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>>79560630
Pathetic.
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiet.
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>>79559714
What is stranger things?
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