What was the absolute worst thing about the Hobbit trilogy?

Knowing that it could have been good.

the gopro footage in the river scene

stretching it into 3 movies and making Ian McKellen cry

Del Taco dropping out. At least we could have had some dank visuals

Memories of LOTR

wasting martin freeman

The stupid dwarves and their """""comedy""""

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>>79528212
This faggot!

No one doing their taxes.

>>79528294
this desu

The Hobbit would be a good movie if about 5 hours were cut out of the trilogy and condensed into one movie. 3 movies worked for LoTR because the source material was literally 3 books long and the director had a clear vision of the movies from the beginning, while the Hobbit was 1 childrens novel spread across 3 movies with each movie being at least 2 and a half hours long that wasn't sure if it wanted to be a character analysis, drama, comedy, or family action/adventure and suffered because of this.

>>79528212
The three-movie split
Literally everything that was bad about the movies can be traced back to that.
Alfrid? Created for filler after three-movie split
Elf/dwarf romance? Added in re-shoots after three-movie split
Smaug chase scene and CGI gold statue? Created as a last minute climax for the second movie after three-movie split
All the horrible Legolas stunts in BotFA? Done on a green screen after his role expanded after the three-movie split
If they had stayed two-movies, and they probably would have if Jackson had gotten the time to work it all out before hand instead of winging it on the spot, it would have been two great ones

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this, for the love of god this

that lady elf and the whole bullshit romance subplot

>>79528405
god what a little pussy

>waah I didn't become an actor to make millions of dollars just from sitting on a green set for a full day

>>79528464
there's more to life than money you know

>>79528212
The ricidulous amount of cgi used. Orcs didnt look like orcs, dwarves looked fake. I can understand Smaug being cgi but the rest of the movies apart from his scenes and dialogue were just utter shit.

>Sauron fleeing from an strong independent woman elf

>>79528398
Nah, one movie isn't enough. They had it perfect at first with two movies, where the first one ending with them escaping the elves. You have tio understand that the Hobbit book is only that short because it's written in a completely different way from LotR. It would just be them going from location to location every five minutes and scenes would just be rushed through without breathing room if the book was condensed into one movie.

>>79528212
This:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-fSVZS2VyU

>>79528498
>Sauron fleeing from an strong independent woman elf
That actually happened according to the appendices though

>>79528512
This too. We already knew the fate of legolas so making a new bad guy with a face he could go up against was ludicrous.

>>79528246
First post, best post. /thread
>splitting it into 3 movies
>disgusting, absolutely disgusting amounts of CGI

>>79528536
I'm pretty sure it was the White Council collectively, rather than a 1vs1 with Galadriel.

I could be wrong.

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>>79528212
The entire 3rd movie is like a long bad dream

>>79528400
This is the correct answer.

>>79528212
elves being painted as anything but antagonists

>>79528510
Jackson has never had an issue with making a 3-4 hour movie. The director cuts of all the LoTR and Hobbit movies are at least 3 hours, with RoTK being just over 4 hours long. I can understand MAYBE splitting up the Hobbit into 2 movies, but 3 made Jackson have to pad it out with a lot of pointless filler and poorly done action scenes, as he didn't have the time that he did with LoTR

>>79528536
Yes just like how JRR brings back Gandalf after he dies fighting the Balrog. I loved the LOTR but I just dont agree with a few of his choices.

>Inb4 write your own fantasy

I have my opinion. OP asked for it.

>>79528667
I saw it in theaters back when I was drinking a lot lol and the whole thing felt like a weird drunken fever dream. I had to rewatch it recently and yes, it is just as bad as I remember

>>79528212
The god awfull CGI

>>79528212
It's fucking annoying to know that fan edits that get rid of the bloat show how good the cinematography and underlying story still is.
Damn Jackson for letting Warners call the shots and not resisting when they told him to create three movies instead of the original two.

>>79528212
The fact that it was a trilogy. ENDLESS filler in a story that could've fit a 2-hour runtime

>>79528411
This and that fucking goat riding...Billy Connolly doesn't belong in a LOTR movie

>>79528747
Not even. What Snapchat tier filter did they put over the source footage? Even the natural landscape shots looked fake and garbage compared to the original trilogy.

>>79528890
I kind of liked that the Maple Films edit color corrected some of that to fit in with the original movies. Made it feel almost like the same universe.

>>79528212
every second outside riddles in the dark was equally terrible

>>79528212
so what everyone is saying here is we just need someone to go in and make a master cut of the three films and splice it into one film? Does that already exist?

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>>79529126
https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/

>>79528535
god this is youtube production-tier
that and the rando gopro shit was fucking cringe
these movies are a disgrace and an insult to the fans

>>79528512
what game is this?

The utter lack of chemistry amongst the cast.

I could have dealt with all the CGI and all the extra plot fuckery if they had had just a tenth of the passion of the LoTR guys.

>>79528246

/thread

That fucking scene where legolas is climbing the falling staircase, other then that I'd give entire hobbit trilogy 7/10

>>79528398
>The Hobbit would be a good movie if about 5 hours were cut out of the trilogy and condensed into one movie.
you're in luck
http://www.maple-films.com/faq.html

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it's like they researched the best possible way to write a character and then did the exact opposite in every facet

>>79528464
He's old as fuck and has been acting for decades, it's hardly like he needs more money. He does it because he has a passion for acting, and he's right that all the bullshit greenscreen subtracts from that

>>79528212
The third one

The first two were ok but the third one was "well you know people aren't digging this so let's just get through it and finish"

>>79529182
this is a poorly done edit made before the 3rd film was even out, meaning the last part is shit bootleg quality. It only gets recognition because he got it out first.

>>79529520
this one is top-tier

I didnt like that the singing was taken out after the first one.

>>79528212
the worst thing is that actually enough people payed money for it to make a profit so hollywood would keep making a bunch of shit-tier filler 3d garbage blockbusters

>>79528464
He acted like a bit of a drama queen, but it really is a shitty way to make a film. I can always notice the difference in the performances when the actors aren't actually in the room together

>>79529653
>enough people payed money for it to make a profit so hollywood would keep making a bunch of shit-tier filler 3d garbage blockbusters

That's Disney/Marvel doing that, brah.

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>>79528535
>>79528512

just end me already

Tauriel
Childish action scenes
10/13 of the dwarfs

>>79528535
Why the fuck did Peter Jackson even make these movies

He seems like someone who actually cares about the material, so why fuck it up so badly? He has plenty of money, I don't think he's really a George Lucas type that really wants more of it. At least the Star Wars prequels you could see what he was going for, a misguided attempt but nonetheless genuine. This is just trash.

>>79529929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgqIh5F_rqE

>>79528535
the green screen in this is painfully obvious

>>79529929

He was only supposed to be the producer but at the last minute Del Toro bailed, he didn't have the four years of prep that he had for LOTR, he did the best he could getting blindsided.

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>mfw you want to buy lotr bluray extended edition, but can only find it combined with the hobbit trilogy

>>79529929
He literally had to. He was only supposed to be an executive producer, but they lost Guillermo Del Toro at the last minute and couldn't lock in another director, so he just had to step up and do it.

There was a pretty good behind-the-scenes doc floating around on YouTube a year or two ago where you could tell he was in over his head and his heart wasn't in it at all.

The awful CGI.

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>>79529973
that wilhelm scream

>>79530077
That was so bad it was good.

>>79529973
fucking awful what a hack

That scene in the second movie where they are floating in barrels down a river fighting orcs.

That broke me so hard

>>79529973
I love the way Sauron just casually eats him.

The script.

>>79528212
The real problem is that the conclusion to the second movie is tacked onto the opening of the third.

>>79529525
I second this. Every moment with that character was filler. pure shit.

They cant make a proper movie for 60fps to save their lives.
Their lazy film making and choreographies really stand out when you watch it in 60fps.

>>79528212
That scene at the second movie with the barrels that felt like it came straight out of a videogame.

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>>79529973
>we are legion

Jesus fucking christ, every time I see a new scene it gets worse.

>>79530551
Was Sauron just an edgelord?

Second movie had some okay moments just get rid of anything involving Stephen Fry or fucking Alfrid and An Unexpected Journey is on part with Fellowship of the Rings for comfiness.

Implying you didn't get chills watching this for the first time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5BETb-hLgA

As soon as I saw CGI orcs I lost interest.

Peter Jackson not having any prep time. Del Toro dropped out and he was basically given a few months for preproduction compared to the 3 or 4 years he had on LOTR. They threatened to give the movies over to Brett Ratner to direct forcing Jackson to say fuck that and step in to try and saved it. Then as everyone has said they forced Jackson to create a third movie during production causing him to change pretty much the whole second half of the story. This is why you have so much extra padding, poor CGI, and poor characters. They simply didn't have the time to make it great

>>79530047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20vA9U7J2qQ
You're probably thinking of this. Jackson himself seems tired and worn out. Think about it, he's spent so many years making movies in this universe, he's probably fucking sick of it especially right on the heels of the last two. It's like why as James Bond movies go along the actors generally get edgier and more tired of doing the same exact routine. It's probably why he didn't want to do the Hobbit movie in the first place. It really needed some fresh eyes, I think Del Toro would have done a decent job

>>79530000
>the best

I'd hate to see the worst

Also what does having no pre-production have to do with shit like having Legolas jumping off rocks? They could have just cut that trash

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Orcs being CGI

>>79530792
its easier to make a cgi heavy scene or sequence in post than to take the time to film something practically on a set during principal photography.

just look at the video here >>79530726
you get to the point where you just have to make something up on the spot on a green screen without knowing what you are making. You just need to throw something in. It would be worse if they planned that out a year before, storyboarded it, did pre viz, and then shot it the whole time thinking that's cool.

>>79530677
>>79531012


This tbqh lad. When they were practical they had a bit of charm to them.

hated martin freeman as bilbo

awful cgi in parts

loved the atmosphere and the "banter" among the characters in lotr, hated it in the hobbit.

that's all i can think of now

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>>79530726
WTF I HATE DEL TACO NOW

>>79528536
NO it most certainly did NOT. Utter fan-service bullshit. Sauron wasn't even there when the White Council arrived.

>>79530077
So, we were SUPPOSED to laff, r-right? What a moron director, jezus fuck.

>>79531686
>So, we were SUPPOSED to laff, r-right? What a moron director, jezus fuck.

I think the hobbit could be better understood if we were to assume as much.

>>79528212
Everything relating to the elves was poorly handled. Legolas shouldn't have been there. Tauriel should never have been created. The elf king being a traitor and asshole was too much.

I like how they expanded on the Necromancer aspect, though it feels poorly written.

Also, there was never any tension in the movies. During a recent re-read of the book I paid more attention to the pacing of events and how tension is created through the sheer length of time that passes.

>>79528212
the legolas matrix shit and that weird fight galadriel video game fight scene

the films were mediocre to bad generally, but these were the only scenes that were memorably bad

it was just an excuse for jackson to make "cool scenes". Especially the EE shows how he wanted to have all those funny scenes of fighting various monsters and shit.
>gandalf vs troll
>3 dwarves vs orc
>ninja legolas
none of these bring the story forward

>>79528212

The fact that it was 3 movies long and they insisted on cramming in hours upon hours of fucking appendix material. They could have made a 3.5 hour Hobbit movie that contained all of the book's content without skipping anything. That's all we fucking needed.

>>79528405
>>79529667
Fucking Warner Bros making Jackson film in 3D did this.

Why Del Taco dropped out?

>>79530301
it was actually filmed in 48 fps kiddo