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Milo on Real Time Friday

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I bet $100 Bill's studio audience will boo, heckle etc before the interview even starts (to le greek gay man's delight)

Jeremy Scahill already cancelled his appearance in protest :(
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>>79505953
Well I got $20 that says Larry Wilmore will make this face at least 5 times
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>>79505953
>Larry Wilmore
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>>79505953
>Giving this fag attention

Why are conservative figureheads such shills? Ann Coulter, that other white blond and now Milo.

>say retarded and offensive shit you can't possibly believe
>people predictably get upset/call you out
>MUH FREEDOMS/WHY DO LIBRULS HATE FREE SPEECH

It was kind of a clever reversal the first few times but now it's just boring and formulaic.
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>>79506206
>being this retarded
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>>79506260
>being this retarded
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>>79506206
>It was kind of a clever reversal the first few times but now it's just boring and formulaic.

obviously not since berkley literally burned themselves down in an autistic fit over him
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Milo will keep it 100
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>>79506206
>>79506328
>being this retarded
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>>79506335
when the system has failed and there is no choice

direct action is a must !
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>>79506206
Milo's been riding this shit-horse for years, fucker owns an iron cross and can't shut up about how superior he is to everybody

If he didn't believe what he was saying he probably would have shut up by now, now I think he's just pushing everybody until he either gets beat to death in the streets or someone acts on his absurd bullshit
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>>79506206
>being this retarded
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being that he's on first and not on the panel it means that they'll be taking shots at him during the show after he's on and unable to respond naturally.
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>>79506431
I think it's a pathological thing. The more you repeat something the more you end up believing it yourself.
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>>79505953

Bill Maher is kind of a douche, but he always instructs his audience to be polite and applaud when he introduces asshole guests (Ann Coulter, Tomi Lahren, etc). Once Milo starts talking like an asshole, then there will be some boos.
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>>79505953
Disappointed in Scahill for this, he's a good journalist

The Intercept is one of the only half-decent leftist news sources I know of anymore. (quality changes like the weather though depending on the writer)
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I like both Milo and Bill, but frequently disagree with both of them at the same time.

What does that make me?
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>>79506510
boring
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>>79505953

What has happened? I mean does anyone have an open mind anymore?
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>>79505953
>Jeremy Scahill already cancelled his appearance in protest
>in protest
not wanting to get caught without good counterarguments isn't a protest
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>>79506510
A flip flopper
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>>79506206
Reminds me of the chan
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>>79506604
they wouldn't be debating on the show, they were booked for different segments
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Milo is literally a fucking pawn.
>You can't criticize us because we have a gay jewish greek cuck tan black asian indian muslim deformed sodonist midget!
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>>79506484
He does but his crowd is worse now than ever. They think they're at Jerry Springer or Morton Downey Jrs show if someone remotely right of center makes any points. They OOOOH and half of Bill's monologue now.

>>79506604
Exactly. They're not even on the panel together, no interaction would've occurred. So basically he's just being a bitch and staying home because Bill has a guy on that he doesn't agree with. And that's why he's a liberal.
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>>79506206
They're all sleazy as fuck
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>>79506733

Can someone give me a quick rundown on this guy?
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>>79506206
Yeah, yeah any minor pushback against whatever the Left's latest cause célèbre is literally the second coming of Hitler

I don't know how anyone can look at Berkelyites burning down their campus and justify it as completely acceptable, and the only way to stop a homo size queen that fucks blacks from becoming dictator of America because ????
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I'm disappointed in Jermey Scahill for this. His main reason for "protest" was dumb, he doesn't want to support giving Milo a platform/attention, but by protesting he's literally doing that exact thing.

For those of you who don't know who Scahill is and are writing him off as just another butthurt "liberal journalist", you should know some of the great shit he's done in the past.
>In 1998, he traveled to Iraq where he reported on the impact of the economic sanctions on Iraq and the "No-Fly Zone" bombings in Northern and Southern Iraq
>In 1999, he covered the Kosovo conflict, reporting live from Belgrade and Kosovo. Scahill accused the United Nations Mission in Kosovo UNMIK of being complicit in Albanian atrocities against Serbs
>Scahill's work has sparked several Congressional investigations. In 2010, Scahill testified before the U.S. House Judiciary Committee on the United States' shadow wars in Pakistan, Yemen, and elsewhere
>In July 2011, Scahill revealed the existence of a CIA-run counterterrorism center at the airport in Mogadishu, Somalia, and reported on a previously unknown secret prison located in the basement of the U.S.-funded Somali National Security Agency, in which—according to a U.S. official—U.S. agents interrogated prisoners
>When the public became aware of President Obama's "Kill List", Scahill was frequently cited as an expert on the topic of extrajudicial killings.

He also established The Intercept to initially publish reports about information contained in documents disclosed by Edward Snowden concerning the NSA

The dude may be progressive, but he's one of the few journalists ACTUALLY exposing shit and calling the government out on bullshit
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>>79505953
The audience ruins that show.

Exchanging ideas becomes difficult when you have a bunch of retarded monkeys in the background whooping and hollering.
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>>79506950
>I'm disappointed in Jermey Scahill for this. His main reason for "protest" was dumb, he doesn't want to support giving Milo a platform/attention, but by protesting he's literally doing that exact thing.

He has a point though. Liberals thought they were smart to entertain the idea of a Trump presidency and got completely cucked.
Go to /pol/ and try to have an actual debate. You will get steamrolled whether you're right or wrong. Such is arguing with trumpkins, you have to give them that much credit.
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>>79505953
Can someone tell me what Milo has said that's actually so terrible?
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>>79507147

No. Literally no one can name anything that's actually terrible that doesn't relate to fat ugly girls. That's the trick.
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>>79507147
He hasnt really got any 'awful' quotes or soundbites that I can think of. But he hates feminists, Islam and BLM so that's enough to make him Gay-Hitler.
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>>79506997
This, it becomes a competition of who can win over the audience, rather than a conversation between a group of people.
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faggots make me sick
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>>79507147
He was the leader of a movement that literally killed women for playing video games.
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>>79507147
He spouts the same stuff you hear from all other "alt-light" speakers but since he's a jew faggot that makes the left especially mad since he's supposed to be one of them.
They view him as an uncle Tom who is undoing their progress.
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>>79507147
He was some nobody who hopped on the Gamergate train, got himself some followers and then used his newfound platform to start bitching about other things.

He's also a fag.
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another alt right homosexual...hmmm.....
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>>79507213
Him too:
While Yiannopoulos is openly gay, he has stated that gay rights are detrimental to humanity, and that gay men should "get back in the closet". He has described being gay as "aberrant" and "a lifestyle choice guaranteed to bring [gay people] pain and unhappiness".


At least he hates himself too.
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>>79507233
>He spouts the same stuff you hear from all other "alt-light" speakers
Yeah, but what are they saying and why is it so terrible? I've listened to a lot of Milo. I don't recall him using any hate speech.
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>>79507091
Scahill and Milo wouldn't have had any opportunity to trade blows, or even be on the panel, he's just angry that Bill is giving Milo time on the show.

He also thinks Bill's view on Islam is vitriolic.

So he's just being a shithead really.

>http://www.businessinsider.com/real-time-bill-maher-statement-milo-yiannopoulos-jeremy-scahill-2017-2

I think Bill's statement on it is pretty based desu
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>>79507233
He's also against gay marriage (or at least used to be).
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>>79507262
So he's a textbook Uncle Tom?

kek
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>>79507262
this piece of shit is all talk. if he really thought being gay was bad he would stop. he enjoys being a depraved sodomite
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>>79507285
have you even read that novel?
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>>79505953
Am I the only one who thinks this gonna be a total shitshow?
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>>79507310
I don't have to.

It's commonly understood regardless of the novel. That's like saying I need to read Quixote to know what "tilting at windmills" means.
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>In January 2016, Yiannopoulos co-founded the Yiannopoulos Privilege Grant with Margaret MacLennan. The grant plans to disburse 50 grants of $2,500 to disadvantaged white men to assist them with their tertiary expenses, starting in the 2016–17 academic year.

He's basically a walking satire re: reactionaries
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Redpill me on Milo. These are the ONLY things I know about him
>Jew
>Gay
>Conservative(?)
>When he schedules a speech anywhere, radlefties go full chimp

I don't know anything else at all. Not even what he looks like. What are his policies? What made him so famous people listen to him or care so much that he's giving speeches?
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>>79507268
You missed the point. What he's saying isn't the main reason for backlash, it's his identity as a gay Jew.
The left needs to convince minorities that they are oppressed and people like Milo undermine that effort.
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>>79507091
Yea I understand, but with Milo you run into the problem of "any attention is good attention". The only way to win against someone like Milo is to not engage or acknowledge him.
He's not interested in a discussion or a debate, he's there to rile people up and garner attention, that's it. By protesting the show instead of simply going on as normal, you're giving Trump supporters more "hurr butthurt liberal cuck! based milo!" ammo.
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>>79507379
>It's commonly understood regardless of the novel.
You and everyone else who misuses that idiom is a fucking retard. Read the novel, learn something.
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>>79507414
I agree that's what I was getting at.
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>>79507381
He's also been criticized for taking thousands of dollars in donations and has yet to give a single grant

Milo is literally a scam artist hopping on political trends for fame and internet cash.
His whole shtick is to be edgy and attention grabbing, and when he gets called out he hides behind some bullshit "irony"
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>>79507379
>>79507439
Here, let me help
>Stowe's melodramatic story humanized the suffering of slavery for white audiences by portraying Tom as a Jesus-Christ-like figure who is ultimately martyred, beaten to death by a cruel master because he refuses to betray the whereabouts of two women who had escaped from slavery.
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>>79507466
One fag drag away from checking the final box.
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>>79507395
He's /pol/ incarnate and embodies that the alt-right doesn't actually have any foundation or productive goals besides shitting on what are now mainstream liberal ideas like equality for gays and women. If you're edgy you'll love him.
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>>79506510
A centrist
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>>79507269
>He also thinks Bill's view on Islam is vitriolic.

Probably because it is. He's an unashamedly Islamophobic.
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>>79507395
You also forgot
>date's black guys
He's everything the lefties vouch for, except he's conservative
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>>79507396
>>79507414
>>79507464

Doesn't matter lads, this show will be entertaining. A race baiter like Larry vs. Milo. Should be good.
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>>79506509
Didn't you hear, if you have (incorrect political opinion) you don't deserve a platform.
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>>79507516
>/pol/ incarnate
no try again
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>>79507536
can you really blame him?
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>>79507509
Not an argument.
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>>79507536
>Islamophobic.
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>>79507147
It's a game of chinese whispers a bunch of radical leftists all build him up as raving lunatic and because dissenting opinion is not allowed, it just becomes more extreme. Protesters / rioters at Berkeley said they hadn't even heard him speak.
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>>79507544

It's his choice. He'd be more respectable if he owned it instead of giving typical disingenuous denials of it.
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>>79507516
>>79507540
Okay but why do people care?

I remember back in '08 when they ran Old Man McCain, there was a small faction of Gay Republicans, mostly business owners. They didn't get this kind of attention.
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>>79507395
He dates almost exclusively black men and my favorite line of his ever is something he said to someone who called him a white supremacist "The amount of black dick that has been in my mouth I must be the most self loathing white supremacist ever"
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>>79507556
>Although Harriet Beecher Stowe's extremely succssful 1852 abolitionist novel Uncle Tom's Cabin was the original source for the Uncle Tom idiom, its meaning is best understood through an examination of the numerous stage shows loosely based on the best-selling book. Theatrical entrepreneurs who did not share Stowe's antislavery zeal took great liberties with the novel's protagonist. Uncle Toms of the stage were usually depicted as thoroughly subservient individuals who willingly betrayed their black brethren in order to please their white masters. As a result, the Uncle Tom label is assigned to individuals who sabotage other blacks in order to further their own advancement.
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>>79505953
>Jeremy Scahill

Is anyone supposed to know or give a fuck who that is?
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>>79507603
Think of the advancements between 2008 and now.
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>>79507606
The thing is, he doesnt really date, he just fucks. And fucking someone isnt the same as considering them an equal. I dont really give a shit but that's probably the leftist angle.
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>>79507603
>Okay but why do people care?

Because
1) His level of vitriol is pretty unmatched. Despite what people in this thread say, he's said lots of shit that would raise the average normie's eyebrows
2) He's gay so it's like when your black friend lets you make racist jokes
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>>79507624
Guess what? It's still not the intended usage. The novel lives on, the theatrical performances in the decade afterwards don't. You're just an ill-informed race baiter.
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>>79507627
see>>79506950

He's big if you care about journalism
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>>79507603
Did you not notice how identity politics went batshit crazy in those eight years?
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>>79507603
2008 was a much much different time.
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>>79507536
>Islamophobic
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>>79507536
oh fuck off with your buzzwords. anyone in their right mind should be opposed to the issues he's spoken about in relation to Islam. Plus Maher hates all religion to begin with its not a matter of race.
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>>79507652
You know what else lives on?

Uncle Tom being understood exactly as I have used it.

Stay triggered.
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>>79507597
>It's a game of chinese whispers a bunch of radical leftists all build him up as raving lunatic and because dissenting opinion is not allowed, it just becomes more extreme

This. If you asked anyone at Berkley they'd say that Milo had advocated for roving death squads to summarily executive any man with gayface or something
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>>79507341

Oh, absolutely it will be. Which is why I'll be tuning into this smug asshole's show for the first time in a decade.
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>>79507147

Everything because his voice is fucking annoying
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>>79507681
Stay objectively wrong.
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>>79506206
Hi, reddit!
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>>79507091
The mistake is thinking there's any debate. Milo is the ultimate hollowman opportunist who believes in nothing. You cannot debate him, you can't prove him wrong, you can't shame him.

You can't face off against a person like him and make him look like shit with facts or reason, he just smears shit all over his faces and laughs that the people around him have to smell it.
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>>79507603
>I remember back in '08 when they ran Old Man McCain, there was a small faction of Gay Republicans, mostly business owners. They didn't get this kind of attention.

Because "Log Cabin Republicans" were mostly just "Gay Democrats for lower taxes and regulation"
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>>79507341
depends what you mean by shitshow
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Bill is Jewish, Milo is Jewish.
Blll hates radical Islam, Milo hates radical Islam.
Bill is tired of free speech suppression on college campuses, Milo is tired of free speech suppression on college campuses.

So...what are they gonna argue about?
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>>79507684
it's still not crazy to not want a spokesperson for the alt-right to basically bait the entire crowd with provocative statements, which is his entire ethic.

They should have him for a debate instead. Not a regular speaking engagement.
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>>79507700
>You cannot debate him, you can't prove him wrong, you can't shame him.

Uh oh, angry college anarchists aren't going to burn down the studios housing Bill Maher's show are they?
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>>79507651

So can you provide one outrageous quote from him?
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>>79507697

He's right though, that's what it means in common parlance
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>>79507724
Whether traps are/aren't gay
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>>79507700
>You can't face off against a person like him and make him look like shit with facts or reason,
I have yet to see anyone he's arguing with use facts and reason. It's usually appeals to emotion.
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>>79507724
90s Maher was pretty anti-feminist too.
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>>79507697
okay massa
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>>79505953
I'm sure a handful of people have already been paid to make a scene
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>>79507700
There's a reason why his appearances on Joe Rogan suck balls. He needs someone to be outraged and emotional and when it comes down to a regular discussion he doesnt actually have much to say.
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>>79507740
>common parlance
And yet if I read the book the term came from the meaning is completely opposite.
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>>79507724
Obviously Trump
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>>79507752
This. Its all WAAH and no one wants to have a discussion with him. I hope Bill will.

Plus the best Milo speakings I've heard are ones where he reads facts pretty much...
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>>79507726
>They should have him for a debate instead

Except you don't get invited on show's like Maher to "debate". In fact a "debate" is pretty much impossible since on anything controversial both sides will be operating on such completely different premises that common ground will be impossible

I know midwit fuckwits have an obsession with FACTS winning out over everything (pic related), but come on
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>>79505953
bills guests have always booed republicans, and bill both acknowledges and occasionally even condemns them for it. you've never watched the show, you're only making a thread about it because you're an emasculated milo cuck
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>>79507606
fetishizing races/features doesn't make those people equal to you, it makes you a racist dipshit with jungle fever. A good corollary is those pale weirdos who exclusively lust after asian women because they've become suckers to image the japanese porn industry puts forward. They're definitely not seeing asian women as whole people there
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>>79507820
>A good corollary is those pale weirdos who exclusively lust after asian women because they've become suckers to image the japanese porn industry puts forward.
You're fucking racist too.
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>>79507737
>Every racist joke has a scientific fact behind it
>Women shouldn't be allowed to drive
>I only fuck black people as a fetish, they aren't boyfriend material
>I'm a fag, but being a fag is wrong
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>>79507793
I was talking about Berkley where he was going to speak.

but the point of debate isn't simply to establish one truth, although that's the utopian ideal. it's to further understanding on a given subject and use rhetoric to form logical and actionable conclusions.

That would be absolute hell for Milo, since his entire motivation is essentially to troll and say the most outrageous thing because it's fun.
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>>79507829
found a pale weirdo
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>>79507860
are those quotes?
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>>79507793
>all policy based on evidence
>evidence shows that blacks are more violent and of lower IQ
>evidence shows women are happier as stay at home moms

Is Tyson a national socialist?
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>>79507737
"if there's a sex that deserves to be put in camps, females would enjoy being by themselves."
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>>79507883
>it's to further understanding on a given subject and use rhetoric to form logical and actionable conclusions.

The problem is that the "facts" used are only dependent on how they're framed, or the context in which they're used.

>Politician: Most refugees are male
>Shitty biased fact checker: Akchooally the population of refugees worldwide is 50/50 gender-wise.

Of course what the "fact checkers" omit is that the politician was referring to refugees entering and processed in Europe, not the global population of refugees
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>>79507960
I thought you leftists were masters of comedy?
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>>79507910
Paraphrased, you can find the real quotes in about 30 seconds on google
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>>79507733
>>79507733
Holy shit is this a milo supporter? Lmao tell me about how fluoride in the water is turning men gay so blacks fuck our women lmao. At which university did you do your dissertation? Hahaha were emasculated males! End the oppression white lives matter!
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>>79507993
I don't like Milo but I never said he wasn't funny.
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>>79507931
No, just another midwit that fell for the "facts have a liberal bias" meme
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Last I checked, /pol/ was jumping off the Milo train.

What happened?
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>>79507975
You're talking about "fun with statistics", which both sides employ to much glee. We need an emphasis on critical thinking in education systems
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>>79505953

Milo should make a move on Wilmore. If Wilmore turns him down hes a homophobe.
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>>79508067
I know 4*2pol hates Milo now because JEWISH DISINFO SHILL
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>>79507606
I remember Milo on Tucker Carlson he said. "If you spent 5 minutes at my work place you'll find out I'm not racist. If you spent 2 seconds in my bedroom you'll find out I'm not racist. "
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>>79507993
Who said that? Why are you applying generalizations to billions of people? Do you think this constitutes "thinking"?
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>>79507975
>Our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20 percent.

But that IS wrong.
He's stated that it's 30 percent and even 42 percent, his numbers change constantly because he's bullshitting

If 42% of the entire country was unemployed, we'd be experiencing bread lines and mass lootings.
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>>79508128
It's a joke. You hear jokes and generalizations about how dumb men are all the time.
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>>79508089
>We need an emphasis on critical thinking in education systems

Which I'd appreciate, the only problem being that both sides tend to the conclusion that it's the other side that isn't engaging in critical thinking
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>>79507975
your image doesn't really put forward much of an argument

each quote has a full breakdown on how they arrived at that methodology. for instance:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/04/donald-trump/donald-trump-syrian-refugees-are-mostly-men/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jan/29/barack-obama/barack-obama-state-union-says-women-make-77-cents-/

it's based on actual research.
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>>79507993
>thinks this is funny
milo has always been gutter-tier "shock" humor, trying to see how much he can get away with. it's as low effort and worthless as it gets
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>>79508129
I was more referring to the Carly Fiorina comment, where it's pretty clear she's talking about Syrian refugees entering and being processed in Europe, while the "fact checkers" have taken it out of context by including the figure for the TOTAL Syrian refugee population (most of whom of course will be women and children in neighboring countries)
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>>79506206

blame the autistic support group known as gamergate
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>>79507975
>Of course what the "fact checkers" omit is that the politician was referring to refugees entering and processed in Europe, not the global population of refugees

Akchooally "the politician" was referring to refugees slated to come to the US from refugee camps which were not mostly male. Read the article.
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>>79508223
It's still a joke and thus using it as a reason to portray him as a person who actually wants to put people in camps is retarded.
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>>79508276
Why should we accept any refugees at all?
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>>79505953
This is going to be awesome.

It's going to be 3 against 1 + all the audience is automatically on Mahers side.

Every single point Milo will make will get boo'd, laughed at, and garner eye rolls from the three opposing people.
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>>79508223
guess why MDE got so popular. their base is nothing but shock for the sake of shock.
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>>79507724
Milo is a fucking idiot in the way he presents his ideas though
He just antagonizes everyone, just like the SJW.
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>>79505953
>its a butthurt cuckservative sjws preemptively complaining thread
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>>79508341
Is there anyone that has criticised Islam in the media without linking it to some atheist crusade against all forms of religious expression like Sam Harris?
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>>79508294
doesn't stop it from being dangerous and needlessly opaque either. He's an unapologetic piece of shit
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>>79505953

>Larry Willmore

I will bet my subscription to BLACKED that he will bring up race at least 3 times

fuck that fake ass afro american. Glad his show got canceled. so annoying
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>>79508226
I agree that fact checking is not at all perfect, I mean it's done by people and people have biases and make mistakes.

I don't think that's any reason to completely dismiss fact-checking altogether though.
The main problem with politifact is their retarded "how wrong/right you are" scale.

It's a fact-checking organization, it shouldn't be trying to do click-bait-tier nonsense like "PANTS ON FIRE".
It should just determine whether the facts are true, false, are misrepresenting data, or have any degree of truth, and that's it. The stupid scale is blatantly politicizing something that is supposed to be objective and unbiased
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>>79508338
hes not on the panel
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>>79508373
>doesn't stop it from being dangerous
what's dangerous about it?
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>>79508333
Because some people believe it's a moral responsibility of a first world country to do so. "Some people" would probably include Ronald Reagan and Jesus Christ, too bad the right is the most hypocritical group of people in the entire nation, even worse than liberals who support Clinton.
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>>79508398
>Because some people believe it's a moral responsibility of a first world country to do so.

Yeah, and they're NIMBY limousine liberals that want the tax dollars of people that don't want to rebuild Somalia in Minnesota to do so.
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>>79508390
it triggers lefties so hard they start shooting each other
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Milo is a meme
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>>79508462

at least they dont take it out on school children and muslims in the middle of prayer
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>>79508390
flagbearer for gamergate, meninism and christianity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCNsJKVd3BA
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>>79508452
>muh taxes

The right was fine with spending billions to destablize the Middle East in the first place. Again with the hypocrisy, just admit you're a selfish person and can't be bothered rather than trying to reach for this high ground that's long gone.
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>>79508484
*shoots up gay club instead*
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>>79508333
If we stonewall them, we just get more America/Europe hating extremists.

ISIS and Al Qaeda exist for a reason, they don't just spring up from the earth screaming death to the west
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>>79508473
/thread
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>>79508462
a milo supporter literally shot a protestor
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>>79508398
>"Some people" would probably include Ronald Reagan and Jesus Christ
What does that have to do with my tax dollars going into a sunk cost that is "refugees"?
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>>79508501
>you can't be against destabilising the Middle East AND importing millions of the inevitable refugees
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>>79508370
The liberals defense of Islam is just mind boggling. it is the very antithesis of liberal principles and the most actually misogynistic there is. The mere criticism of it will label you as a bigot. Just look at the atheist authors everyone used to love. Now they're called hateful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f27qaDQ1uG8&t

Sorry for the cringy visuals but that's the video I found
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>>79508521
Oh so if we don't take in all these people who don't belong here, then the people who are already killing hundreds of Europeans a year will kill more?

Wow that sure makes me want more refugees in my neighborhood.
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>>79508390
>>79508500
my bad I thought you were talking about milo himself, not that quote.
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>>79508533
the protester was getting into the (asian) shooter's face. the protester had a tattoo of a Swastika with a crossed circle over it. the Asian guy thought the protester screaming at him was a white supremacist.
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>>79508521
If they are that easily swain to be terrorist nothing the western civilization could do would ever stop them from joining isis and other extremist groups.
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>>79506484
Liberals are very easy to trigger.
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>>79508521
should we let more people in like the Somalian OSU guy?
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>>79508542
Too bad the former isn't up for debate and is a simple reality moving forward.

Republicans or Democrats, the shit in the Middle East will continue to get stirred.
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>>79505953
>before the interview even starts

Is it an interview? Or will he be on the panel?
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>>79508736
interview
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>>79508634
source?
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>>79508390
emboldens more sexually charged shootings like elliot rodgers and gives retards someone to fall back on when they're called out for being cunts for no reason at all, we're already seeing stuff like it at UW and all that

speaking of:
>>79508462
the shooter was a milo supporter, the only reason anybody's saying otherwise is because milo sniped the story with a false-flag
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>>79508730
so two wrongs make a right? because Obama and Bush fucked up Iraq and Libya, American taxpayers should suffer twice as hard by living with even more welfare leeches?
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why did gamergate go on about ethics then cite breitbart as legit
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>>79508770
>emboldens more sexually charged shootings like elliot rodgers
I read the Elliot Rodgers manifesto. It was entirely the parents' fault.
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>>79506206

any thing milo is saying wouldn't have even been considered offensive 4 years ago

Its tame

and yet he has got you and countless others completely spazing out and trying to rectify your whole mess

the harshest thing I have heard in a milo talk is about lesbians and that just typical gay banter that you always hear gay people say
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>>79508787
American's should take responsibility for the actions of elected officials, yes. After all, we voted for them.

And it's not just about Obama and Bush. Nothing will change moving forward. Trump's Israel policy is the ultimate shit stir for that region and he's shown nothing but hostility toward Iran.
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>>79508770
>ANTIFA attacking people
>surprised someone attacks back
>>79508770
>emboldens more sexually charged shootings like elliot rodgers and gives retards someone to fall back on when they're called out for being cunts for no reason at all, we're already seeing stuff like it at UW and all that
With that logic Dylan Roof is Black Lives Matter's fault.
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>>79508542
>I din' do nuffin

The question isn't if you should personally welcome refugees into your home because you personally fucked up their homeland.

The question is: should American policy, especially in light of America's fuckery in the Middle East, be welcoming to refugees? It takes a serious lack of empathy to not take responsibility and help out with problems that America had a hand in creating. Not a good look.
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>>79508865
>After all, we voted for them.
what about the citizens who didn't vote?
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>>79508759
>>79508634
if there's no source I'm calling bullshit on the white supremacist theory because all I get from google are right wing websites with no verifiable sources

and one site citing a non-existent post from the university
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>>79507198
This. It doesn't even matter what side people or one or the topic at hand - it all just becomes a shitshow at this point.
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>>79508770

t.McCarthy
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>>79508877
this is the most retarded post on this website
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>>79505953
MILO

NAZI NAZI NAZI NAZI NAZI

*AUTISTIC SCREECHING*
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>>79508857
Like I've said before, he does disservice to the discussion about Islam by being so antagonizing and shocking. He validates the SJWs arguments.
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>>79506206
Neo-Nazi's are LITERALLY homosexuals

Gobbels was a homosexual

Himmler was a Homosexual

Alfred Rosenberg was a homosexual

The leader of the German National Democrats, Holger Aphel, turned out to be a homosexual

/pol/ is full of sexual deviants who have sex with men and children openly

Recently the leader of a Dallas white supremacist cell, Cameron Diggs, was arrested for selling meth and turned out to be a gay porn actor

Milo being alt-right makes perfect sense
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>>79508577
I'm not talking about refugee crimes

I'm talking about a foreign political process that's decades old.
>NATO &/or NATO ally invades developing middle eastern country for some sort of gain (originally natural resources)
>Props up puppet government
>Puppet government is corrupt
>Citizens of said shithole revolt and rebel, often in the form of extremist groups, using Islam as an instrument of violence/indoctrination
>Country goes to shit
>bunch of innocents get displaced because their country is shit and they want to leave
>this spills over in the form of refugees or other conflicts between neighbors
>NATO/NATO ally steps in when optimal to try and "bring stability" to some area
>really they are just taking what's up for grabs, so Russia/other NATO enemies don't get their hands on it
>Rinse and repeat process

Refugees that live in the west get recruited by extremists in the east, because the west is the "aggressor". Refugees in the east who can't move west become those extremists int he first place
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>>79508926
JESUS I fucked that up.
>what side people are on or the topic at hand

Remember - I think it was PBS - when we used to have a roundtable discussion with liberals, conservatives and moderates all in the mix, without an audience? I miss that shit.
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>>79508939
sure, he's just a regular person who wears an iron cross sometimes.

http://imgur.com/gallery/abwEBMO/new
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>>79508981
yeah a gay person with a black boyfriend is really the embodiment of being a traditional nazi
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>>79508950
>old God-emperor literally funds and arms radical Islamists for the sake of killing Commies
>new God-emperor is in bed with the Commies for the sake of autistic shrieking about radical Islamists

really makes you think
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>>79508981
>didn't post pic
>linked to the pic

you do realize this is an image board....right?
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>>79508806
>why did gamergate go on about ethics then cite breitbart as legit

gaters never, ever cared about ethics. it's why breitbart targeted them
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>>79509060
>he's gay so he can't be homophobic

What a great argument.
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>>79508902
Outside of being underage, all you've done is said that you're content to let others choose for you. You're still responsible for that decision and the outcome.
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>>79508981
So does Triple H, a professional wrestler

your point being?
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>>79509126
>dug yourself into a hole

bruh...stop digging.
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>>79508981
but....iron crosses are still used by most militaries in the world?
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>>79508941

Its not though and SJWs will get their way soon and realise they can't give them a hard time like they did Christians

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/labour-stays-silent-over-gender-segregation-at-party-rally/

you need to look at whats going on in the uk sweden and germany

then you will understand why milo when talks like that
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>>79509156
Yeah but Triple H is Triple H.
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>>79509156
Proof that Nazis have taken over America
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>>79509083
Not quite

What's important is that the process creates extremists regardless of whether it's NATO or Russia stepping in.
If America doesn't do it, Russia will.

Then what will America have to gain from non-involvement? Extremists still get made, refugee numbers still increase, but this time Russia is the one with a shiny new pipeline or a strategic puppet base.
Refugees still come knocking on Europe's door, and since the USA is sitting out, Russia can start to carefully poke and prod, dismantling the jenga tower that is NATO because Europe doesn't have their watchdog to drawing the line in the sand
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>>79508730
>Too bad the former isn't up for debate and is a simple reality moving forward.

According to who? The kind of clever-silly idiots that populate the upper reaches of the State department that actually believe all that "we can bring democracy, human rights, and minority protection to the Middle East, we just haven't intervened effectively until now" nonsense?

>>79508901
>It takes a serious lack of empathy to not take responsibility and help out with problems that America had a hand in creating

When does the obligation end? Because I get the distinct feeling it'll be colonialism 2.0 where the moral obligation is presumed to exist until those who benefit deem they have received sufficient recompense (i.e., never)
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>>79509391
>Russia can start to carefully poke and prod, dismantling the jenga tower that is NATO because Europe doesn't have their watchdog to drawing the line in the sand

And how has Trump not made an even worse scenario out of this by being Russia's cuck?
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>>79507288
He does but it doesn't mean he'll go along with whatever crazy agenda the lgbtqrs homos will push. I'm gay and totally agree with Milo on a lot of issues. I wish I wasn't gay too but it's hard not to be. It's like a straight guy trying to be gay. It would be impossible, but maybe i'll change.
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>>79509437
He totally has, I agree.

I'm saying Trump is bad news

Just making the point that it wasn't about killing commies, it was about seizing those assets before Russia could get them and start to brew trouble
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>>79509432
>>When does the obligation end?

That's a fair point and there's literally no possible consensus answer. But that it is reasonable to say there is an obligation in the first place is something the right won't admit. It's more respectable to acknowledge the full situation and then say "I don't want us to help" rather than pretend that these refugees fell out of the sky and that not helping them would go against the moral pretense the GOP has shirked for decades.
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>>79506206
Yea, Milo fanboys have to be some of the saddest fucking people on Earth, he obviously doesn't give a shit about them or their movement.
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>>79506510
A moderate
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>>79509591

try not to burn anything on your way out

hot head
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>>79509456
I dunno man i think you may be able to change. homosexuality in men makes no fucking sense at all from an evolutionary standpoint. it's the equivalent of being born with a broken dick. hear about many 20 year olds with ED? shit is almost unheard of. those genes don't get passed on, and neither would being a gay man. I'm not claiming to know the answers of what making someone gay are, i really don't fucking know. but i think being born that way is really unlikely in such high numbers as we see. it's most likely environmental, social factors. Just my 2 cents.
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>>79505953
NEW RULE, MILO YOU HAVE TO SUCK MY DICK HE, HE, HE
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>>79509591
Shit's funny.
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>>79506484
This faggot is defending Maher's studio audience.
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>>79509591
Remember when Gamergaters tripped over themselves to make him their hero despite the fact he thinks gamers are a fucking joke

good times
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>>79509688
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>>79507414
Not necessarily. I love Milo and yes he loves attention but the left can't have one of their protected minorities turn against them and then convince other minorities and traditional liberals to do the same. He's very convincing and fun so they need to riot and shut him down. I know several woman that I've shown his videos to and they love him. They follow him on snapchat and facebook now.
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>>79506206
>boring and predictable

i love how liberals from 4chan have to pretend they are above everything, when its so obviously false

if its boring and predictable liberals wouldnt be literally rioting over milo speaking at a campus, nor would he be getting invited to bill maher's show
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I thought Jeremy Scahill was better than that

Did he really cancel because Milo?
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Where's the live stream gonna be tho
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>>79509640
>homosexuality in men makes no fucking sense at all from an evolutionary standpoint.

Why don't you actually take a look at the scientific studies and hypotheses created on this topic instead of appealing to your own ignorance. There are many explanations for the survival of homosexuality through natural selection, including altruism and increased libido/fertility in women who carry one of the genetic markers prevalent in gay men. Just my 2 cents
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>>79506510
Vers.
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>>79509820
yes its on his twattr
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>>79506375
>caring about retards
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>>79508521
>If we stonewall them, we just get more America/Europe hating extremists.ISIS and Al Qaeda exist for a reason, they don't just spring up from the earth screaming death to the west
The refugees from Syria don't give a damn about us, they're mad at the Russians for bombing them to hell and saving Assad's ass.
>implying you know shit about the Middle East
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>>79507860
source? video, articles? I have no problem with anything he said though.
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>>79509803
>if its boring and predictable liberals wouldnt be literally rioting over milo speaking at a campus, nor would he be getting invited to bill maher's show

Wow congrats he triggered SJWs. Truly an unprecedented and amazing accomplishment
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>>79509917
It's a pretty fair achievement considering liberals are about five times as hard to trigger as conservatives
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>>79509917
triggered liberals, made national news, expanded his sphere of influence

yeah hes doing pretty good triggering sjws
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>>79509917

He is upsetting you enough to keep bad mouthing
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>>79508901
>be welcoming to refugees
We're taking in 10K out of 2 million and by the time we're done vetting them the war will be over. If anyone in the government actually cared about helping the people they'd have recommended increasing aid money sent to the camps in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan since that would be massively more efficient and be of immediate use, but they don't care about helping people, they care about scoring political points, just like you, you ignorant fucker.
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>>79506814
>Rothschilds bow to Bill Mitchell
>in contact with aliens
>rumoured to possess psychic abilities
>owns basically every DNA & genetic research facility on Earth
>first designer babies will be Mitchell babies
>Rules Your Voice Radio with an iron but fair fist
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>>79509973
I remember all those triggered conservatives smashing windows, assaulting liberals, and lighting fires during Obama's time in office
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>>79508950
>Refugees that live in the west get recruited by extremists in the east, because the west is the "aggressor".
Like fuck they do, the people who get recruited are overwhelmingly 2nd and 3rd generation kids who are having an identity crisis because they know they aren't German/French/whatever even though they live there and reach out to Islam to fill the void.
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>>79508857
Exactly, don't people remember Queer Eye for the Straight Guy? It's just gay banter. If you agree with it or not, fuckin take a chill pill.
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>>79509996
trump shit his diaper and threw a tantrum over the idea of taking in like 1200 pre-vetted legit refugees the australians wanted us to take off their hands as a favor

the only thing these people want to do to the browns is kill them

they are literally changed anti-terrorism laws and agencies to exclude dealing with domestic terrorism. it's not subtle
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>>79509973

>come up with trigger warnings
>complain that you are getting triggered
>because you apparently suffer from a variety of mental illnesses and you or an otherkin or what ever pronoun

>people laugh at you and call you snowflake
>try and turn it around by saying the people laugh at you are the triggered ones
>try and call them broflakes or snowflakes back
>speakers start touring university to laugh at you some more
>complete nationwide giga-trigger
>liberals go full fascist with book and flag burnings and changing language to fit the news
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>>79508946
If you think those guys are actual nazis, you're an idiot lol.
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>>79509851
>Why don't you actually take a look at the scientific studies and hypotheses created on this topic instead of appealing to your own ignorance.

oh i have. those "studies" do far more of what you accuse me of then i did. i actually used a proven mechanism - reproductive fitness, to try and explain my theory. those bullshit studies you are talking about are 99 percent conjecture and 1 percent complete bullshit. and i'm being really generous on the percentages there. again, i don't know the answers, but i'm fairly certain i'm closer to the truth then those dumbfucks
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>>79506671
>they wouldn't be debating on the show, they were booked for different segments

They would have been together for overtime.
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>>79509899
Syria isn't the only source of refugees

And you prove my later point >>79509391
Refugees/ISIS get created regardless of whether it's NATO or Russia stepping in.
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Milo is both literally and figuratively an obnoxious faggot.
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>>79510039
Yea I remember that stuff too.
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Scahill is a legit great journalist who puts Milo to shame, too bad.
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>>79510378
more people were killed in San Bernardino
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>>79510352
no one argues that. the alt right find it amusing that he is flamboyantly gay but is shouting alt right ideals. his type is necessary for the mainstream public to stray towards the right wing.
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Bill isn't having Milo on to defend free speech while planning to tear down his views

He's having him on because they agree on a lot of things
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>>79510378
Until a Trump supporter wastes 50 fags in a night club, the majority of the blood is on your side's hands.
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>>79510046
when they "reach out" to Islam and end up becoming a terrorist, how do you think the process happens exactly?

There are Mosques indoctrinating the refugees there, and pocket communities dedicated to "conversion". These come from the east.
ISIS knowingly recruits members from western countries, it's a fact
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>>79507536
>Probably because it is. He's an unashamedly Islamophobic.

A word "invented by fascists and used by cowards to silence morons."
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>>79510378
How much does he regret doing this?

He didn't start a race war, gave the liberal media more ammo, and got the harshest possible sentence.
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>>79508521
>ISIS and Al Qaeda exist for a reason, they don't just spring up from the earth screaming death to the west

true, the reason is Islam
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>>79510470
Islam existed long before ISIS and Al Qaeda my friend
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>>79510498
yeah they even had slaves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
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>>79510429
He seems like the type of retard that'd adopt a gay persona solely to become immune to SJW slurs.
Like a reverse beard.

He's the most pandering, disingenuous faggot on on his side of the political spectrum.
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>>79510525
And? So have countless past societies
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>>79510409

milo has seen labour going funny in the uk

with
>>79509223


labour are basically dems, I think its hard for americans to understand whats been going on
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>>79506461
He'll be on Overtime with the rest of the panel
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>>79505953
Nope, his audience is going to fall silent and you're going to hear a few uncomfortable laughs when Milo speaks. Bill is going to resort to what he always falls back on: shouting and insulting.

The fact that Bill got shit on by Piers Morgan and had to resort to calling him a British sleeze is proof enough. How you could lose a debate with Piers Morgan is beyond me, we should go ahead and declare Bill legally retarded.
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>>79510460
>gave the liberal media more ammo
literally
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>>79506733
Wow, he looks just like Handsome Jack from Borderlands.
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I remember when Milo posted on /v/, and the board creamed itself. God, I hated GG. The intention was nice, as it could be used for the mainstream media, but good lord, was it a cringefest.
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Milo is a lightweight and will probably get killed on the show. The best thing that ever happened to his career was BLM and other far left college fags freaking out whenever he tries to speak.
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>>79507910

By "paraphrased", the dipshit who answered you meant "A complete misrepresentation and a reduction to the absurd because I'm incapable of arguing against his positions in their strongest form and fairest interpretation."
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>>79510409
that line basically says it all imo

>>79510441
you can play it off any way you want but at least Bill's willing to have Milo on his show unlike literally anyone else on the liberal side who's had that opportunity. Today there's something to be said for the left side even entertaining a conversation or debate or even the existence of opposing viewpoints without just booing or crying or burning shit.
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>>79509591
I'm a Milo fan. What movement do you think I am a part of? I don't align with any one ideology like alt-right, republicans, conservatives and whoever else. I have my own views that don't match any one movement 100%. I even have some liberal ideas, shock horror. People can listen to him speak and enjoy his shows without agreeing with everything he says. Politics and ideas shouldn't be looked at as a religion where you strictly follow what the politician or movement says. I would vote for Trump over Hillary but doesn't mean I'll defend every single thing he does.
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>>79510422
>>79510445
Shit you guys got me, Dylan Roof is the only right-wing extremist to have ever committed violence.
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>>79510653
There is literally no reason to entertain a conversation with Milo or offer him a platform to amplify his shit.
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>>79510625
I remember their cringeworthy poster where they were "allied" with reddit and several e-celebs.
Zero self-awareness, on their knees sucking dick as soon as someone popular recognized their movement.
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>>79510636
Actually those ARE paraphrased quotes.

Most of the articles/speeches they're from have a satirical/ironic slant to them, and they were said in jest.
The guy asked what he said which offended so many people, so I answered him.

By the way, those aren't positions to be argued against, most of them were said jokingly.
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>>79510713

I think you are just homophobic and you sound like you would be very bigoted in real life
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>>79510713
The FBI report is comedy gold.
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>>79510746

My bad. I didn't follow the convo properly.
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>>79506206
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I can't wait to see police that actually want to stop antifa rioters.
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>>79507536

He applies the same standards to Islam as he does to Christianity, that's all. He's not in favor of the travel ban or any other legislation persecuting Muslims, he just criticizes their religion.
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>>79508857
>any thing milo is saying wouldn't have even been considered offensive 4 years ago
"Feminism is bowel cancer" wouldn't have been offensive in 2013? That would have been offensive 20 years ago, to be honest. Women should "get back in the kitchen"? Gay men should "get back in the closet"? Being gay is a lifestyle choice? Birth control was a mistake?
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>>79505953
Is Maher and crowd that much of pussies? I've never really watched his stuff, but I thought they at least prided themselves for being more open and edgy, relative to most liberals
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>>79508370
>without linking it to some atheist crusade against all forms of religious expression like Sam Harris?

Harris is supportive of Buddhism and Hinduism.
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>>79510671
See the left doesn't like it when you don't fit into their bubble of what "Milo Fans" are and what "ideologies" they follow. You're supposed to all be Neo Nazi hentai gamer MRAs.
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Why is this board filled with leftist faggots?
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>>79509851
I'm gay mate and it's all politically motivated grasping at straws. No one knows what makes people gay but even if they have a definite reason, would it then make it ok? God created the universe btw, evolution is a lie.
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>>79510557
and one society is still committing atrocities :)
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>>79510959
(((/tv/)))
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>>79510926
>I've never really watched his stuff, but I thought
If you never watched, why would you think that?
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>>79508857
>any thing milo is saying wouldn't have even been considered offensive 4 years ago
I'm curious, how old are you?

Outside of hypertriggered tumblrina cases, gender/race issues have been sensitive subjects for around five decades.
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>>79510698
The fact that many Muslim extremists commit terrorist acts that kill so many people while having such a low population is a little troublesome, don't you think?
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>>79510959
There's a nice cozy safe space over in /pol/ for you if it's too distressing for you to face push back against your reprehensible views
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>>79508521
>If we stonewall them, we just get more America/Europe hating extremists.

Oh I love this argument.

"Let them in or else they become terrorists", that's a very good reason for not letting them in.
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>leah remini
>>79510671
the idea is that if you don't fit, at least for the most part, into one particular category, you probably have some inconsistent beliefs or values. You just haven't realised it yet.
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>>79510996

You actually think that, don't you?
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>>79510959
Why does /pol/ think that being center-right is the same as being leftist?
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>>79511008
>if you don't like retard leftists you're from /pol/

Stay classy.
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>>79511008
>push back

insults and whining?
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>>79511015
You don't see the irony in locking out the people who want to *get away* from that shit, do you?

Instead extremists can just point and say "they hate you and everything you are, like we told you"
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>>79511027
>if you don't fit into some ideology you have inconsistent beliefs or values

Are you actually retarded?
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>>79510975
Check out this image bud.

Are you aware that there is literal genocide and slavery happening every day, right now, all over the world? :)
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Socialism doesn't work.
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>>79511037
Tell me what I should think.
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>>79510698
>>79510996

Muslim terrorists are right wing extremists.
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>>79511077
>You don't see the irony in locking out the people who want to *get away* from that shit, do you?
We don't need rapists that are too pussy to fight for their countries.
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>>79511077

There are plenty of nearby countries they can go to if they don't feel like staying in Syria. What justifies them flying across the fucking world? Then they're economic migrants and not refugees.
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>>79511077
and you dont see the problem with people bringing in the same shit they claim to "run away" from?

which is undeniable FACT if you just look at the urban areas in France, Germany or Sweden these days?
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>>79511084
It's Asian Americans importing the Asians
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>>79510498

Muhammad and his guys did basically everything IS does.
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>>79511119

Also this, the majority of the "refugees" are males between 18-49.

Who stays back and tries to fight for their country? The women.
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>>79506431
>iron cross
dumb nig nog....I own an iron cross too. It is a GERMANY medal not a nazi specific medal. Who gives a fuck.
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>>79511015
You're missing my point.

see
>>79508950
>>79509391
>>79510448

The point is, the answer isn't as simple as "keep all them out" or "let all them in". It's far more nuanced
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>>79511108
and the left coddles them over the alternative.
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>>79511180
>The point is, the answer isn't as simple as "keep all them out" or "let all them in". It's far more nuanced
"Keep them all out" is working very well for Japan.
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>>79510599
because he is
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>>79511180

It's very simple, don't let them in. Nothing good comes from having a mass immigration of uneducated young males.
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>>79510671
I don't think people are really judging you from a political standpoint.

I think it's more the fact that Milo is an obnoxious faggot, and that his fans enjoy figuratively rimming his asshole.
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>>79511204
as well as Hungary.
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>>79510985
I've seen some clips and stuff, but he always seemed to be the offensive type, so a person like milo shouldn't be that big of a deal to him regardless of political opinions
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>>79511204
>go to Tokyo/Osaka
>filled to the brim with shady Nigerians trying to lure you into yakuza bars/soaplands
Japan is tainted, just not by muslims.
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>>79511078
You know what, I'm not wasting time on making a serious reply to this. What kind of an argument is that? I've made a claim, and instead of responding to it or explaining why you think it's a ridiculous idea, you've just gone "are you actually retarded?"

Pic related, literally you.
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>>79511295
And how much do I need to pay these Nigerian yakuza to deal with my taint?
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>>79511337

One does not need to conform to an ideology to hold beliefs or values.

Just proves what a leftist retard you are by putting ideology above your own beliefs or values.
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>>79511084
>Saudi Arabia isn't higher
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>>79511212
>>79511204
If we ban all immigrants, but don't bother intervening in the regions, Russia starts picking apart NATO dominance.
If NATO falls, world war 3 almost definitely

If we ban refugees but still fuck around in the regions, we get 9/11's
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>>79511204
>"Keep them all out" is working very well for Japan.

Assuming that's sarcasm. Japan is in deep shit.
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>>79511395
>muh russians

Jesus christ the cold war is over.

Maybe the U.S. should stop supporting terrorism and start fighting it.
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>>79511427

And it has absolutely nothing to do with their immigration policies.
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>>79511427
>Assuming that's sarcasm. Japan is in deep shit.
How is Japan getting fucked over by not importing at worst terrorists, at average rapists, and at standard welfare leeches?
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>>79511428
The anti-Russia narrative is really getting fucking old.

The best part is that 10 years ago people were laughing at how silly the US were with their "everyone's a fucking commie spy!" paranoia during the cold war, but now it's happening all over again without anyone realizing it.
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>>79511428
Were you even alive during the cold war?

Do you know why we fight proxy wars?
I'll tell you, it's not about ideology. It isn't good guys vs bad guys or even capitalists vs commies.
It's about power. I want America to remain dominant
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I imagine it will go down like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW4dYG9VjgA

By the way, the above clip introduced me to Christopher Hitchens and Bill Maher.

This show is better with combative guests.
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>>79511098
yeah social security doesn't work, neither does medicare, or any public service like having roads or clean water

nope, doesn't work
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>>79511496

The last 15 years of U.S. foreign policy have done everything but increase U.S. hegemony. Maybe it's time to try another strategy.
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>>79511427
>Japan is in deep shit
No it isn't.
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>>79511383
Here's the reply I was writing before I decided it was too much effort:

If your beliefs are just a hodge podge of "this sounds like a good idea" and "I heard a good argument for this belief once" and "I haven't really done much research into this issue, but based on my personal experiences I lean towards this" without anything that unifies them, then it's very unlikely your principles are consistent. It's a lazy kind of politics. You'll inevitably end up with one big group of beliefs that are left libertarian, another big group that sway more to the far right, maybe a pinch of authoritarian views, and then a shitload that are in the centre. And those centrist views are, in all probability, the ones you don't care about or haven't spent much time thinking, talking, writing or reading about.

Imagine if someone believed that Jesus Christ was lord, but also that Muhammad was a prophet, karmic justice intervened in their lives, and astrology accurately forecasted their futures. Or imagine if someone thought that entropy was responsible for ice in their glass melting, but that homeopathy had physiological benefits. Or if someone thought that they could make a judicial argument on a common law matter grounded in equity. Why is holding a patchwork of inconsistent beliefs unacceptable on religious, empirical and legal matters, but acceptable on political matters?

MAYBE you've independently managed to come up with a novel framework not based on contradictory beliefs. But that's not very likely.
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>>79511525
>social security

Ponzi scheme.

>medicare

Ponzi scheme, oh and enjoy your premiums.

>muh water and roads

Not an argument.
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>>79511495
>>79511428
Russia has the second largest nuclear stockpile in the world.

Of course they are the number one country we should be careful of, that's a given.
Countries are not "friends", they are like competing businesses

Russia and China are the greatest threats, not shitskins with machetes and primitive pipe bombs
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>>79511569
Yes, of course Russia is always a potential threat.

But the amount of mainstream dehumanizing, fearmongering and paranoia currently happening is fucking ridicilous.
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>>79511540
Absolutely.

I want us to create a different strategy, which is why I'm arguing that the issue isn't as simple as "don't let them in, pretend they aren't there"
That wont work
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>>79511450
>>79511461
Japan's population decline and demographics are a disaster

They are quite literally destroying themselves by shunning immigration.
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>>79506206
Maybe crazy antifa morons shouldn't have shut down his speak, making his name appear on every new station
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>>79511558

Why do I have have to hold views or beliefs that unify each other? That sounds really stupid, hell, even well thought out ideologies are not consistent.

To put people in categories just because some of their beliefs may be in that direction is retarded. Have people themselves call themselves a believer in whatever ideology but don't do it for them.
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>>79511569

The number of nuclear weapons really doesn't matter, Russia can have 500 or 10 000, the outcome would be the same.
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>>79511610
Oh for sure, I wont argue that.

I'm just saying we shouldn't let Russia have free reign
Trump is too soft on Russia. He isn't a fucking sleeper agent or any of that nonsense.
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>>79511654
>pretend they aren't there

You can help them without letting them in.

>>79511662

You're right, they best start mass immigration from 3rd world shit holes that ought to bring Japan back to the Empire of the Rising Sun status.
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>>79511709
True, but they also have the second best nuclear triad/distribution system, which does matter
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>>79511662
Don't believe the media memeing
>JAPAN IS DYING!
>JAPANESE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HAVE SEX
>JAPAN NO KNOW HOW PENIS IN VAGINA DO

They've shrunk their population by less than 1% since 2010.
Obviously it'll stabilize at some point, and it's nowhere near a "disaster".
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>>79511662
They will literally destroy themselves if they open for immigration.
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>>79511761

Regardless, it doesn't matter. If nuclear war breaks out, we're all fucked anyways. It doesn't matter anymore.
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Certain countries can succeed by being isolationist, unfortunately I think America isn't one of those countries. Our web is too deeply woven and our importance is too great.

Think about it long term. Isolationism is too short-sighted of an approach
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>>79511840
>that feel when you live in an irrelevant country
>will live a little longer than americucks
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