Mad Men Quotes

PIZZA HOUSE

don draper sucks big black cock

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NOT GREAT, BOB!!

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basically anything Roger said

>>79501039
My favorite line is right before >>79500956.

>Don, isn't it possible that the recently weaned have some unique perspective? {sarcastically} Joy? Enthusiasm?

So true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0e8mfHzAjQ

>>79501039
>What do women want?
>Who cares?

>THE KING ORDERED IT

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>Bob: I am offering you more than anyone else ever will.
>Joan: No, Bob, you're not. Because I want love, and I'd rather die hoping that happens than make some sort of arrangement.

>>79501039
Is it just me, or is the lobby full of negroes?

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>What are the events in life? It’s like you see a door. The first time you come to it, you say, Oh, what’s on the other side of the door? Then you open a few doors. Then you say, I think I want to go over that bridge this time, I’m tired of doors. Finally you go through one of these things, and you come out the other side, and you realize, that’s all there are, doors, and windows and bridges and gates and they all open the same way and they all close behind you. Look, life is supposed to be a path, and you go along and these things happen to you, and they’re supposed to change you, change your direction. But turns out that’s not true. Turns out the experiences are nothing, they’re just some pennies you pick up off the floor, you stick in your pocket, and you’re just going in a straight line to you know where.

>If I wanted to see two Negroes fight, I’d throw a dollar bill out my window.

>>79501159
I have embraced this philosophy, and my life is better for it.

>>79501039
>Pearl Harbor was an act of genius.

What did he mean by this?

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Did Lou Avery invent anime?

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>Don: Men want her and women want to be her.
>Peggy: Even if that were true--
>Don: It is.

>>79501370
damn I forgot about this scene, underrated moment

>>79501552
I never got why that song and performance is supposed to be so great. It just seems childish and annoying to me.

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>>79500956
>My name's Leonard. I don't know if there's anything that complicated about me. Which is why I should be happier I guess. It's good for him, hes interesting. but I've never been interesting to anybody. I work in an office, people walk right by me and I know they don't see me. Then I go home and I watch my wife and my kids - they don't look up when I sit down. It's like no one cares that I'm gone. They should love me, maybe they do, but, I don't even know what it is. You spend your whole life thinking you're not getting it, people aren't giving it to you. Then you realize they're trying, and you don't even know what IT is. I had a dream I was on a shelf in the refrigerator. Someone closes the door and the light goes off, and i know everybody's out there eating And then they open the door, and you see them smiling. They're happy to see you. But maybe they don't look right at you, and maybe they don't pick you. Then the door closes again. The light goes off.

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>That poor girl. She doesn't know that loving you is the worst way to get you.

>>79501649
goddamn, i cried at that part when watching the finale. this shit hit too close to home for me...

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>>79501649

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>>79501708
i once posted
>I had a dream I was on a shelf in the refrigerator. Someone closes the door and the light goes off, and i know everybody's out there eating And then they open the door, and you see them smiling. They're happy to see you. But maybe they don't look right at you, and maybe they don't pick you. Then the door closes again. The light goes off.
in a feels thread on /b/ and i got so many fucking (You)s
kek fucking plebs

but yes it was a very moving scene i related to

>>79501649
I find that so many people didn't really get what he was saying here about having a deep inability to recognize, receive, and reciprocate feelings of love. It was such a good way of explaining a problem that is simple in essence, but very complicated in its manifestations.

This was Don Draper's entire problem in a nutshell.

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>>79501649

>>79501816

This. I watched mad men when I was 20 and now I'm re watching at 25 and I'm discovering a ton of meaning behind scenes I had found unnecessary or boring before

>>79501370

This was one soulcrushing

>>79501649
I knew I was going to be sad watching the last episode but this hit me like a baseball bat to the teeth

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>I have nothing, Don

>>79501131
I'm going to get called a roastie for sure, but I don't get this.
Anyone care to explain?

I have the vague notion that he realised he wasn't at the top, where he wanted to be? I haven't watched the series, so I don't have more context to go with.

>>79501918

this is the last season, you need to watch the series and know the character to get it.

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>>79501914
>We're supposed to be FRIENDS.

>>79501803
kek, no surprise the retards at /b/ don't know something like this...

it felt really weird, i enjoyed all mad men episodes and a lot of them had some feels but the finale and that monologue absolutely fucking crushed me and i even shed a few tears...
a lot of us relate to that guy in the therapy session. although i built a lot of relatonships with people in my life i still always feel that they don't really care about me and wouldn't even notice if i was gone... maybe i'm selfish or too autistic to recognize people showing affection towards me...

>>79500956
Mad Men is the greatest show of all time. People claim Sopranos or The Wire.

Plebs say Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones.

Really, I don't think for any MAN, there can be a better show. Jesus Christ.

This show is literally "shows women will never understand" tier.

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>Oh, this car. This thing, gentlemen. What price would be pay? What behavior would we forgive? If they weren't pretty, if they weren't temperamental, if they weren't beyond our reach and a little out of our control? Would we love them like we do?

Everything there ever was to say about the pure want (and objectification) of a woman.

>>79502155
>Really, I don't think for any MAN, there can be a better show. Jesus Christ.
>This show is literally "shows women will never understand" tier.

You were good until this nonsense. Mad Men has some of the best written female characters and female perspective ever put on television.

It's just as much a "show that men will never understand" given the depth and breadth of Peggy's, Joan's, Betty's, and Megan's narrative arcs.

>>79502037
those children are retarded
i have to be really bored to go there
mostly to shit post and ruin threads kek

this scene is very personal for me too
one thing i love about this show is the fact that i feel relieved knowing that im not the first person who has felt a certain way or that what im going through or have gone through is not completely unusual
like its all a little bit ok

>>79501640
because men want to fuck childish and annoying girls

>>79502155
>This show is literally "shows women will never understand" tier.
uh my one of my exgfs turned me on to this show years ago and i wouldnt have gotten into it if it wasnt for her

when i first say commercials for it i thought it was some gay looking show for faggots
although i was a 19-20 y.o at the time

also, none of my male friends watch this show
they like stupid shit like GoT or dont even watch tv

>>79502278
Not that poster, but I think it was just some of the typical /tv/ womanhate, where it is inferred that women have a diminished threshold for appreciating and understanding quality writing, whether the characters are male, female, or mentally ill.

>>79501131
Whoever wrote this scene didn't write the finale, with Don going back to work a making a Coke ad being a happy ending

>>79503036
Who said the ending was happy? It just was what it was, same as everything else in the show.

It was hardly the first time Don picked up and left without a word to get away from it all, only to eventually return. It's just one of those things he does. He likes to come and go as he please to reassert his independence to himself, and he often goes to Cali to recenter himself.

That he found inspiration and returned to NY was hardly unexpected. One of the really accurate thing about the characters in Mad Men is how little they change in many ways.

>>79503127
That was exactly my opinion until I read a Matthew Weiner interview months later. I know his opinion shouldn't matter to our interpretation but it still disappoints me

>>79503184
Yeah, ignore that shit. There's any number of famous literary analysis essays about how authorial intent does not govern meaning or readings of the text.

>What do women want?

>Who cares?

>>79502518
Same story for me.

>What is happiness? It's the moment before you need more happiness.

>You're good. Get better. And stop asking for things.

>It never happened. It will shock you how much it never happened.

I always remember these three for some reason.

>>79504378
>>It never happened. It will shock you how much it never happened.
I'm trying to remember the context for this quote. What was the scene?

I thought it was that sterling was responsibile for the NAVY ATTITUDE around here

>>79504413
Peggy got pregnant and had a kid. Gave it away because she was single and career oriented. Don basically tells her to brush it off and focus on the future.

>>79501640
>Being homosexual or a woman

>>79502155

Reddit: The Post

Well done! You've outted yourself. You can fuck off back to your website now.

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>>79504465
Ah yes. Thanks, anon!

>>79501260
Was that guy was some sort of Russian spy?

>You only like the beginning of things

This one is so fucking brilliant, not only at reducing all the complexity of Don Draper to one precise line of description, but to explain all those irrational, stupid decisions we take and why we fail every time.

I can even explain myself, it's just too brilliant.

>>79501816
Don's problem was he didn't value relationships because he never had a meaningful relationship. His parents were shit, his upbringing was shit, his marraiges were shit, his friends were shit, his co-workers were shit. He thought he knew everything about the world, and he learned that he did not the hard way. He wrote off love as something invented because he never had it, but when he discovered it was genuine he thought it was too late for him to have it. That's why he broke down at the phone.

>>79502155
I agree it's the best show of all time.
I will not agree women won't get it. I think everyone can get it, they just need to patiently watch it.

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>>79501649
Yep its me

>>79504378
>It never happened. It will shock you how much it never happened.
That and the fact that Don can just up and reinvent himself have got me through some shit

>>79504378
that happiness quote still hits me to this day.

i think the beatles said something extremely similar in an interview in the 60s. for how much don was a man of the past, he was so in sync with a retrospective vibe of that era.

in fact, it could be a negative mark on his character if he weren't sociopathically adventurous

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>>79504465
I always remembered this and how it ruined her character for me. Wish they hadn't done it so early in the show so at least her character arc could have plummeted after we had already grown to like her.

BECAUSE HE WAS CAUGHT WITH CHEWING GUM ON HIS PUBIS

>>79505105
That's on you. It was perfect.

>>79501032
underrated

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>I'll tell you the same thing I told my daughter: if you put a penny in a jar every time you make love in the first year of marriage, and then you take a penny out of the jar every time you make love in the second year, you know what you have? A jar full of pennies.

>>79502155
>Plebs say Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones.
I've never heard anyone say this.

>>79502155
>This show is literally "shows women will never understand" tier.

It's not. I know accomplished, successful women who get it thoroughly. Don't represent yourself as a Mad Men fan w/ stuff like this, also we don't give a shit about BB or GoT, doesnt even register.

>>79505557
breaking bad wasn't even as good as 24

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>>79505358
Setting her up as a horrible selfish person that would ruin a child's life for convenience wasn't perfect. If they had gone from there to show her becoming a jaded, manipulative but successful ad woman then it might have worked, but they dipped way low and then immediately brought her back up as a downtrodden qt trying to make it in a man's world.

Should have happened much later in the series to show what she was becoming and what she was willing to sacrifice for success.

That's a more stable and believable character arc.

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>Don
"Look, I didn't want to take in two ideas. It's weak..."
>Ginsberg
"...and you don't want to look weak, so of course you picked yours!"
>Don
"...and they bought it. Which is what we're all going for, isn't it?
>Ginsberg
"Well, it doesn't matter. I got a million ideas. A million of them."
>Don
"I guess it's a good thing you work for me then."
>Ginsberg
"...I feel bad for you."
>Don
"I don't think about you at all."

>>79505838
but that ruins her entire growth as don's protege. which ruins her entire growth period. if she didn't have loyalty to don she'd be at mccann making twenty cents more an hour in some cubicle

>>79505838
I have no idea how you think you're fit to fix Matt Weiner's GOAT writing and plotting with your odd, personal notions.

She didnt ruin that kid's life, she saved it. It's with an ostensibly loving family that could give it the attention it deserves rather than a career driven nutcase who wouldnt know wtf the do with it.

It mirrors Dick Whitman taking Don Draper's bloody dogtags off his corpse, the divergence in the woods to the road less traveled. That they consciously shared that was important.

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>"Happy Valentine's Day. I love you."

>>79505881
So we're clear, while this is good writing, the point was that Don was lying and did in fact think about Ginsberg.

>The Japanese have a saying: A man is whatever room he is in, and right now Donald Draper is in this room.

>>79506010
yeah the episode with the snowball ad pretty much proved that. don was jealous that all the work he was putting in his book had ginsberg's name on it, and was threatened by his creativity.

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>>79505970
>I have no idea how you think you're fit to fix Matt Weiner's GOAT writing and plotting with your odd, personal notions.
Where do you think you are?
>She didnt ruin that kid's life, she saved it...
Nah, it's ruined like almost every abandoned child's life.
>It mirrors Dick Whitman taking Don Draper's bloody dogtags...
Whitman didn't knowingly sacrifice Draper so he could escape his problems. Doesn't seem comparable.

>>79505889
that make more sense, thx.

>>79506010

Yeah? And?

Don being petty and shitty is the reason it's so memorable and good. It's the first time in the series where he is outdone professionally and he handles it like a child.

Congrats on receiving the exact message the writers intended.

>So... did you enjoy ze fuhrer's birthday?
>Yes, may he live a thousand years!

>>79506269
Laughing at how defensive you are, kinda suspect.

The Yeah? And? is in reference to the fact that this scene blew up into a pretty widespread meme as is and also in which sports teams and the like are superimposed on their faces.

>>79506010

yeah, he's pretty pathetic in that episode, but that line is still a pretty sick burn

>>79506010
Yeah, no

>>79506010
>guys I'm smart because I understand well written dramatic television >>79506351
>no seriously guys, I'm smart.

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>>79506506
Why are you so defensive bro? That scene is widely misinterpreted is all.

>>79506003
https://youtu.be/FmuswTEGF-U

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>>79506781
not that anon but you always make it a thing to point that out in every one of these threads when that elevator scene is mentioned

we got it, thanks

and its not that deep, anyone who misinterpreted that scene is a fool

also it doesnt take away from the fact that its a great reply

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>Teddy told me that in Greek, "nostalgia" literally means "the pain from an old wound." It's a twinge in your heart far more powerful than memory alone.

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>>79501649

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>Gets up and walks out.
>Too much """"art"""" for me.

Based Don Draper BTFO of hipsters when hipsterdom was first invented.

I use this line any time I see people doing some trite shit to try and look deep or cultured.

>>79507961
>being this pretentious

dude "hipsterdom" was "invented" nearly 20 years prior to this

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>>79501649
>Then I go home and I watch my wife and my kids - they don't look up when I sit down.

Fuck this show was kino

>>79508019
Do you get triggered when people don't clap at your slam poetry jam?

>>79501131
>that cross

what did weiner mean by this

>>79508080
you obviously have some unresolved jealousy towards "hipsters"

plus if you are going to hate on a group of people at least know wtf youre talking about

i dont like them either but i at least know my shit

>>79500956
>You want to feel shitty right up until the point where I take your dress off

>>79502155
I truly hate how this board is unable to like something without framing it in opposition to something else. We make up these words like reddit, kino, patrician, whatever. It's all just bullshit to draw lines around our opinions so we can say we're better than anyone who disagrees.

This guy likes Mad Men, but for some reason just has to exclude women from liking it too, because god knows if something is universally accessible then it must also be bad.

It pisses me off, it's a smug and toxic attitude that poisons discussion into argument.

>It's a Pete's hairline gets even further back season.

>>79508203
yea that guy is a nigger

>>79508177
My comment was pretty tame really. It just makes me wonder what prompted you to respond to it with such anger. It's almost as it you feel personally slighted.

>>79508203
There are these things called "jokes"
You should look into it sometime.
They're pretty funny.

>>79507665
This and The Suitcase are my favorite Mad Men episodes.

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>>79508332
its just annoying when philistines try to act as if they arent plebs, as if they are higher than someone else when they dont even know what they are talking about

>>79508399
Would you have preferred if I used the word "beatniks" instead of "hipsters"?

Is that what you really have a bug up your ass about?

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>>79508365
>HUR DUR I WASNT BEING A RETARDED FAGGOT, I WAS KIDDING

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>>79508203
That sort of thing is literally unavoidable outside of a few friends discussing a shared interest.

Critiquing anything is judging it relative to something else and that inherently creates opposition.

But I can agree, people that focus on it are toxic.

>>79508493
>all women on the face of the earth have shit taste, they cannot possibly enjoy this show on the same level that a man can

>OMG WHAT A TOXIC ASSHOLE THIS GUY IS KILLING THE COMMUNITY

jokes using hyperbole and exaggeration are killing the community? maybe it's autistic faggots who take everything at face value.

>>79508463
>he had to look this shit up

at least i taught you something

but honestly your arrogance is what got to me
when you said "hipsterdom" i knew you werent a very intelligent person but then you went on to claim that that is the seminal era

im sure you saying "hur dur theres to much art for me in here" has made you new friends and made people laugh and gotten you laid, youre a real cool guy

>>79508597
except you clearly werent joking

and if that wasnt you>>79502155
then how are you even going to say he was joking

youre a faggot

ps. jokes are supposed to be funny

>>79501649
Fuck, i teared up in that scene.

>>79508203
It's a sweeping generalisation that feeble brained use to compartmentalise aspects of the world beyond their understanding. The Peggy character was 100% plight of females. How'd that go through his head?

>>79508688
>except you clearly werent joking
Who would tell a lie, on the internet of all places?

>>79508688
>jokes are supposed to be funny
It is funny.
Grass is green.
Women don't know art when they see it.
Black people would shoot their mother for some KFC.

These are just facts of life.

>>79508610
What arrogance?
You sound like a gigantic autistic nerd.
>make a sweeping generalization for the purpose of casual conversation
>"WELLL ACKCHUALLYYYY............"

Don't be that guy.

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>>79508775

>>79508860
>hur dur i always say this when i think im better than people

end your life already

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>>79508887
your lesbian interpretive dance theory is 2 deep 4 me

>>79502155
>was written by women

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>>79508998
nice1

>Megan hands Don a new record
>'listen to this one'
>he sits down cues up Revolver
>me: 'they wouldn't do Tomorrow never knows, that would just be perfect and too expensive'
>Tommorrow never knows plays

This is my favorite. I love jimmy's character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bafxzamsGgY

>Jimmy Barrett: You know what I like about you? Nothing! But it's okay. You got me everything I wanted. What did you get? Bobbie? Lots of people have had that.
>Don Draper: Excuse me?
>Jimmy Barrett: Please. I laugh at you. I go home at night and I laugh at you.
>Don Draper: I don't know what you think happened.
>Jimmy Barrett: You. You wanna step out, fine. Go to a whore. You don't screw another man's wife. You're garbage. And you know it.

>>79509115
>he turns that shit off

i love don/dick

>>79508332
>>79507961
I bristled at it too. I think people in art circles are usually trying their best to create something worthwhile and distinct, and if they strike out, maybe they misstepped or need to refine it further, but I've rarely met someone who's doing what they do as an affectation for status, and claiming you know their motives is laughable. I don't think your reaction to this should ever be a canned "Too much """"art"""" for me.", let alone claiming it as your go-to quip, for a lot of reasons

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>"Was it like hot, tropical sunshine?"

The Doorway is my favorite Mad Men season premier. And I think the Royal Hawaiian pitch is Don's most brilliant advertisement in the show. So underrated.

>>79509138
how could you love that rat faced jewber?

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>>79509191
>>"Was it like hot, tropical sunshine?"
holy shit it took me so long to understand the subtle meaning to this line

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>England won the World Cup.
>......
>Cup of what?

>>79509232
I know, right? Best tv episode I've ever seen about depression.

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>>79509152
>I think people in art circles are usually trying their best to create something worthwhile and distinct

Yeah I guess that's why they all dress and act the same, because they're so focused on being different.

>>79502155
>This show is literally "shows women will never understand" tier.
You're forgetting it's also a soap opera

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>>79509267
speaking of best stuff about depression..
manchester was tiiiiight

i recommend

>>79501039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXiaSovLtEY

This scene is just incredible. It definitely feels like a scene written for television rather than it being natural, but there's nothing wrong with that so long as it's tight and well-written. Each line in that scene is great.

I like where Don lying on the couch looks up at where Lane hung himself

>>79509356
Saw it last weekend. It is very good. Melancholia is my gold standard for depression on film.

>>79509475
i got to watch it
heard it was good

>>79509272
that doesn't really mean or say anything, I've never seen people dressed identically like that and never said fashion was the avenue through which they tried to express themselves
what interests you outside of tv and /tv/? what are you interested in and trying to exert yourself through?

>>79509191
The Carousel and Jaguar pitches were the best imo. Wasn't the Royal Hawaiian one a failure?

>>79509521
It's an experience, man. You're in for a treat.

>>79509555
the carousel was a very good pitch
also, trips

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>>79509546
>I've never seen people dressed identically like that

I sincerely envy you if that is true. You must not live or work anywhere near a university.

Where do you live, by the way?

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>don't wake me up to rub your failures in my face, it's Sunday for Christ's sake

>>79509603
who hurt you?
whats his name?

>>79509357
>a lot of times in life you get to do something and you don't realize until it's over how much you enjoy it, and you swear the next time it comes around you're gonna remember that
>work? No Burt, I'm letting you go again

KEK

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>>79501649

>>79509555
No doubt, they're amazing.

And the Royal Hawaiian one is a failure in that it doesn't sell, but it's because Don is honing in a key insight, a piercing truth about vacations, that is brilliantly accurate but unappealing.

I have a write-up I made saved somewhere...

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>>79509191
>does that make you think of suicide?
>of course! That's what's so great about it

fucking hell I loved Stan

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>>79509685
Found it.

"Draper’s pitch for the Royal Hawaiian is maybe his most insightful of all, but it goes over poorly with the client because he's doling out harsh truth rather than readily palatable ideology.

Don goes to Hawaii as a deeply depressed man after emotionally separating from Megan. We don’t even see him speak to Megan the entire time he’s there (interesting detail of that whole sequence).He goes there and feels nothing but the same emptiness and lack of joy he felt at home. He's stuck in limbo, in his head, in his own private prison. Its why the line from the soldier at the bar comparing Vietnam to Honolulu (two jungle climates) resonates with him so strongly and why it's so brilliant: "Didn't anybody notice it's the same place?" And Don totally gets that sentiment because NY and Honolulu feel the same to him. There’s no difference as far as he’s concerned."

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>>79509928
>cont.

"Depression is about being stuck in your head, your feelings, your perceptions. And that is where Don is firmly situated. He doesn't feel like he's gone anywhere. He's stuck in the same numb, state of misery wherever he is. It’s why he’s fixated on the doorman’s near death experience and why he asks him if he saw a bright light “like hot, tropical sunshine.” Draper understands that you don’t have to go far away to FEEL far away. He understands that you don’t have to actually die to FEEL dead. So the brilliant insight he arrives at, though unknowingly, is that at the core of the idea of a vacation, ANY vacation, is the attempt to get away from it all, to vacate your own life. It’s born out of the same urge as suicide. He realizes that the desire for a vacation is closely linked to the death drive, and he subconsciously plays to this realization in his “the jumping off point” campaign. The client immediately picks up on the morbidity of the premise of a man walking off into the ocean with no foreseeable intentions of returning. Don, however, is unaware of how tangibly his depression is outwardly manifesting itself, but it’s reflected in his poignant, albeit nihilistic, worldview."

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>>79501649

>>79501039
>Don and I talk without you all the time. In fact, we're about to do it right now.

>>79501039
>Every time God closes a door he opens a dress

that line got me laid once

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>>79501039
>I just got called a kike!

Roger visits /pol/: the episode

>>79509603
this is beside the point and not related to what I was trying to say. how you dress doesn't have much to do with what kind of person you are. most people dress without much thought, and the difference between what you keep calling hipsters and identifying by visual markers and a suburban dad is just what their "normal" is, and what's around them to be seen and reworn. sometimes people whose creations and thoughts I care about dress nicely, but this is incidental and more related to having aesthetic taste/appreciation for form, and someone could be in cargo shorts and a graphic t or your beard/flannel for all I care if they have something interesting to say. I live in a decent sized city and at a university and suburbs before that. I'd also like to say that in my experience, people who put on art performances like the one you started this discussion with don't have much of an association with the caricature you're painting

I'm still interested in what you find worthwhile and what you're doing in/for it, not with a judging eye or to prove anything, just to better understand your context/interests

>>79509928
>>79509953
Thanks for posting this anon you are a very talented writer if that's indeed yours.

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>>79502518
>when i first saw commercials for it i thought it was some gay looking show for faggots
i am also guilty of this

>>79501658
Them laying in bed after fucking is one of my favorite scenes

>Just because you climb a mountain, that doesn't mean you love it

>>79502518
>>79504189
>>79510128
this is a good point though, Mad Men was a show that literally looked like a Soap Opera to most men when they first heard about it, even people like me who had seen The Sopranos and Deadwood and Rome and The Wire, yet all of those shows still had a violent core and each one dealt with violent crime. Mad Men broke new ground in attracting men to dramatic television without any violence or crime in the central plot

>>79510089
Much appreciated, man. Only because Mad Men is so ripe with meaning and is an easy vehicle for insightful interpretations.

>>79510036
Do tell

>>79510208
It really is, it's like an old sweater with frayed ends, you can pick any thread and pull the entire thing apart in a different way, it's so dense. I rewatch it maybe once a year just to see what's new

>>79504378
I thought that happiness is a smell of a new car, a billboard at the side of the road that screams with reassurance that whatever you're doing is ok

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>>79510205
agreed

well put

>>79510205
I feel like anyone who had that impression has not ever actually watched a daytime soap. It looked nothing like them.

>>79510235
>in college
>business school
>join co-ed professional fraternity for the connections and networking
>we introduce ourselves to the frat after we go through initiation
>we have to end our speech with a quote and I chose that one because it was fresh in my mind
>entire frat laughs their asses off
>go to bar a few weeks later with one of the girls in the frat
>cute sullen redhead with curly hair
>she kisses me
>one thing leads to another
>afterwards I ask her why she kissed me
>"because you're so funny"
>that was the only thing she had ever heard out of my mouth before that night

>>79510329
But it was a show that was about officeworkers and secretaries in the 60s which wasn't a sitcom. In 2007 I would imagine the vast majority of men would never even give that show a chance, even fans of The Sopranos which was co-written and produced by Weiner.

>>79509138
I hated him and his fucking wife.

>>79501640
Let's play find the gay! The rules are simp- oh!
There he is now!

>>79510390
It just looked like a drama to me. I dunno. I think it helps to have a broader tv knowledge. I watched a lot of Brit tv growing up so was probably more used to that kind of story.

>>79501552
>bye bye bir-hie

>>79506010
duhh

>>79508203
>taking shitposters seriously
you're gonna have a rough time here nigger but you'll have fun when you get used to it

>>79509232
i dont get it

>>79510762
See >>79509928 and >>79509953.

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DON MY BOY

>>79510762
He compares dying and going on a vacation, both are going away from your life and your problems

>>79510762
>>79510827
well, also, think about this line in relation to how the real don draper died

what moment sticks with you the most

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm3yrjwaRLo

>>79506097
cooper was truly based

>>79501649
People call shows like Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, Game of Thrones etc unpredictable and ground breaking because they give us heel turn moments and twists and sudden deaths. And that's fine, I enjoy those shows. But this here is what makes Mad Men truly unpredictable and amazing. It's the last episode of the show, and the final monologue isn't given to Don or Peggy or Pete or even Roger, it's a random guy in some hippie resort we've never seen before in the show. And he's saying something that not only hits too close to home for a lot of the viewers (and likely the creator, I doubt his resemblances to Matt Weiner are accidental), but it sums up what the series has been about all along.

>masturbate gloomily

>>79510881
I really loved how the last episode played out. It wasn't some schmaltzy send-off where every character gets to say goodbye to the fans. It was fucking bottle episode almost with Don in California surrounded by hippies at a self-help commune.

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>>79501039

>“She was born in 1898 in a barn. She died on the 37th floor of a skyscraper. She was an astronaut.”

>And you old men want to build golden tombs and seal everybody else in with you!

>>79510881
The best phrase the generals have taught me to describe Mad Men is: It's on another level.

This scene popped into my head earlier, when Megan had to film a make out scene on her soap and Don goes to watch it. Then she freaks out on him and gets really upset that he picked that day to show up and watch her work

Who was in the wrong there?

>>79511105
Don
>You know who else kisses people for money?

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The Man with the Miniature Orchestra

by Dave Algonquin

There were phrases of Beethoven’s 9th symphony that still made Coe cry. He always thought it had to do with the circumstances of the composition itself. He imagined Beethoven, deaf and soul-sick, his heart broken, scribbling furiously while Death stood in the doorway, clipping his nails. Still, Coe thought, it might have been living in the country that was making him cry; it was killing him with its silence and loneliness, making everything ordinary too beautiful to bear.

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>it's a don and peggy episode
>it's the best episode

>>79511105
Don was old-fashioned, like 1800s, he didn't grow up in a modern household at all, he grew up in a rural farming town that probably hadn't changed much since the Civil War. Actresses who kissed men in public were viewed as whores in the same manner as hookers to 19th century Americans.

>>79510144
Holy shit was Gary Johnson the right choice all this time?

>>79511447
In subsequent watches I really felt that there far less of a connection/rapport with them and more "Don just likes Peggy when he's feeling down and treats her like shit the rest of the time. Peggy can barely belief a Chad like Don pays her the time of day so she let's herself be abused 90% of the time in exchange for the 10% that apparently makes it all worth it."

I struggle to think of any heartfelt Don & Peggy that wasn't Don just feeding his ego in some way, get what he wants, or trying to make himself feel better.

>>79511490
No, it had more to do with him having grown up in a whore house, not him being old fashioned.

>>79502155
>friend tells me his sister, mom and gf all yelled at him for talking about mad men at thanksgiving
>just figured he spoiled it or some shit
>tells me later its because they said it was sexist

>>79511575
I always seen it as in those episodes don just stops pretending and that's the real him, the volunerable and sad dick whtiman. The rest of the time he's don draper.

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>>79511683

>>79510819
The sun in the sky

the moon on high...

their great for you and me

becauuuse they're freeee.

>>79502155

i can't believe nobody's pointed out that Mad Men is written primarily by women

>>79511797
>primarily by JEWS

ftfy

>>79510848
>bobby sees the black kid
>we really ARE negroes!

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>>79508019
>being this pedantic

>>79501370
I don't really get it. I'm only 20 though, can some olderfags enlighten me?

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>>79510980
>She was an astronaut.

>>79510951
The Stan/Peggy scene felt a bit forced, I personally liked their conclusion but it really came out of nowhere.

>>79511575
Don's filter is just off with Peggy. That's why he likes her. He is the one that got her in the game so he doesn't have to dial anything down with her.

Without outright admitting that he's Dick Whittman, Don is more honest with Peggy than any other character on the show.

>>79501649
Don cried and embraced Leonard not because he related to him because he realized he would never be as beta as Leonard, and it made it clear his destiny was to create the greatest television advertisement of his time

>>79510951
Peggy's ending ruined her entire character and if you debate me you're wrong and should fucking kill yourself senpai just don't even put that shit in my face cuz I'll drop a motherfucker.

>>79510050
Roger makes it up to /pol/>>79510974

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>>79512705
(You)

>>79512379
He's basically saying that you make choices and chase experiences in life with some vague sense of it lending towards some greater growth/progression, but he's feeling like it's essentially actually the same small set of experiences over and over taking slightly different forms and that he's not really getting anywhere.

It's a statement about how me impose borders (i.e. doorways, bridges, windows, whatever separation metaphor you want), or rather, a false sense of transition between the moments of our life that aren't really there. We decide "this thing is going to change me" or "this thing is going to mean something" but it's a false construct that we make. He's saying that, essentially, that at a certain point you're not changing anymore and there's very little new to come and you're setting yourself up for disappointment when you place a whole lot of hope in something to provide you with some profound change.

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>>79500956
THAT'S WHAT THE MONEY IS FOR!

>>79501649
I couldn't relate to this.

>>79512727
Her ending was perfectly in line with what she's always done: convince herself that she's okay with less than what she really wants because she's never REALLY had it and therefore doesn't know how to recognize it nor feels that she's justified in holding out for it.

Peggy doesn't really love Stan. The whole show he's been a platonic friend to her. She even blatantly says it during his confession that she's never thought about him that way. But just like she did in turning a blind eye to Abe's idealist/activist bohemian lifestyle despite not at all sharing his values, just like she did in shacking up with Pete after getting shut down by Don, just like she did in being Duck's sidepiece, she settles. She wants a Don, she wants a Ted Chaough. But she can't have them.

>>79513065
Classic.

Works on a couple levels because it's not only a statement about the basic employer/employee relationship, it's also a statement about Don's personal attitude towards money. It's shown over and over again throughout the show how he uses money to "buy people off" to keep from actually dealing with them in any meaningful way (e.g. the Megan divorce, buying Midge's painting).

>>79513331
dont forget about his brother

>>79513373
Yup, that's another good one.

In the final season when they're discussing getting rid of Don and Roger comes in hard and talks about he's on leave, so they have to buy him out, and how they're going to end up competing against him for business....that was one of my favorite scenes in the entire series and it's not on youtube : /

>>79513401
>No he's not! He's on LEAVE!!!

Love that scene.

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>Dear sally, I know that you're frightened and there are many decisions I can't prepare you for... Sally I always worried about you because you marched to the beat of your own drum but now I know that's good. I know your life will be an adventure. I love you, mom.

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>>79513800
DAMN IT ANON

>>79513429
Also liked when don came to speak with roger about that and roger says "well what do you want? Wanna come back then come back, I've missed you"

>recently quit drinking
>started watching Mad Men to till time

holy fuck why did I do this
the show is goddamn near perfect but I just want a bottle of whiskey on my desk at all times now

>>79513955
trying to quit smoking and watching this show is pretty bad

does not mix

>>79513955
Same thing happened to me but with smoking

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>They make wine for Jews. And now they're making one they want to sell to normal people

>Well, you know what they say about Detroit. It’s all fun and games till they shoot you in the face

>>79505623
Jesus you sound like a beta

>>79514257
>BECAUSE IT'S MY JOB!

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>You're a very beautiful girl. It's up to you to be more than that.

>>79510085
The way you dress doesn't have much to do with what kind of person you are, that's true. But it has everything to do with what kind of person you want others to believe you are.

>>79510050
>do we have and jews in creative?
>not on my watch

>>79501039
>Stop trying to be like men like Pete Don, for the world

>>79504871
is this true?

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What's his problem

>>79501918

Don can't settle down for one thing. Plus he's realizing that the man they're describing is kind of like the person he was pretending to be all those years. He realizes his own authenticity is bogus and the urge to run hits him again.

>>79501649

The whole point of this monologue was that the guy associated so much with the products he bough that he actually dreamed that he was the product. Don knows that his life's work was to bring about these feelings in people and he has the ultimate pity for the guy.

>>79516633
I think Don himself also buys what he is selling. You see it in his best pitches - the Carousel, Hawaii and finally the Coke ad. His work is as much about bringing these feelings about in himself as it is others.