I SAY KILL EM ALL

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>>79484315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThrVQKl04Ak

>>79484358
Diz>>>>Carmen

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>daily reminder

>>79484397
memes aside, the Federation could have been behind it so that they have a reason to go off to war.

>>79484397
t. peace terrorist

>>79484425
I thought this was really implied.

>>79484452
where exactly it is even remotely implied?

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WHY THE FUCK was there American sounding white people in Buenos Aires?

>>79484452
>>79484425
That makes no sense. There was reason enough for the Federation to declare war on the bugs. They have been attacking colonies well before the meteor strike.

>>79484501
>They have been attacking colonies well before the meteor strike.
No they hadn't. We only hear about the Mormon slaughter after the rock strike, they had been specifically warned not to go into that area either.

>>79484499
Argentina IS white!!!

>Mike and Jay actually implied we should have had reasoned with the bugs instead of killing them

>>79484516
>bugcuck
take the redpill

>>79484526
why not?they turned out to be intellligent in the end

>tfw to intelligent to want to know more

>>79484499
By the time ST takes place the whole world's been globalized.

>>79484534
Yeah, they turned out to be mind controlling conquerors that even managed to brainwash the sky marshall. Hell even the god bug admits this.

>>79484534
They're intelligent because the brain bug was eating people's fucking brains.

>>79484516
It still hasn't been the first skirmish they had. The professor seems pretty knowledgeable about them and the MI recruiter seemingly lost his arm from a bug attack.

so how exactly did bugs evolve and survive on a planet without any food? If they get the energy or whatever they need from the sun, why are there so many different bugs, and why do they have weapons?

Is the remake going to be any good? Will they ever do a satire again?

>>79484567
>Hell even the god bug admits this
i missed that

>>79484592
they spread through the galaxy, maybe they started evolving once they reached new planets

>remake
wat?

>>79484452
>>79484425
No, its implied it was just a random meteor that hits earth, but the Federation spins it as a reason to go to war.

>>79484596
I'm sure they will go full Avatar on us and make the bugs the good guys or some shit.

Can't have fascism portrayed in any light that could be construed as positive.

>>79484596
I read that it was made during a time where executives were getting fired every 3-4 months so no one watched the dailies

The studio was shocked what they had made once Amy Pascal actually sat down and watched it.

>>79484315
I'm from Argentina

and i say i'm white

>>79484315
Buenos Aires was in inside job

>>79484596
it's probably just going to be a dumb cash-in

>>79484596
It's going to be based off the book.

So expect an average story about the average man's life in the military.

>>79484315
>Argentina
>white

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>>79484669
you tell em gurl

>>79484631
>desire to know more intensifies

>>79484677
Isn't the movie great because Verhoeven said "fuck the source material"??

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>>79484711

Tbh I love the movies and the book. And I wished both were able to continue, having the movie's universe be a spinoff show and having the book turned into a proper movie.

>>79484733
you will never, ever, ever be white, Lionel
and im not either amercain or white

>>79484720
Depends if you really like the book or not. Verhoeven really took an older script about young nazi kids in 1930's germany finding themselves and dealing with an uncertain future and transplanted that idea into a book he found depressing.
To be honest I think the book and film have their own merits and I'd rather they go for a book retelling then do the satire terribly like the Robocop remake

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Movie bugs or book bugs?

>>79484777
what's the difference?

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>ST 1
She dies on a ship.

>ST 2
She is part of a military unit.

Huh?

>>79484315
logical fallacy: appeal to authority

>>79484638
CORRECT. FASCISM IS FOR KUKS. NOTHING EVER POSITIVE ABOUT KUKPOLS.

Will they have the Klendathu Drop theme in the remake for muh nostalgia?

>>79484830
maybe they put her in that avatar tank that revived rico or some shit

>>79484822
>ST2

we don't talk about that.

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>ywn be a happy Starship Trooper

;_; fuck this gay earth

>>79484897
if you hate earth so much why don't you go live on the bug planet

DUTY. COURAGE. HONOR.
Is ST3 any good? I just know this song.
https://youtu.be/KIsv1YOFNys

>>79484928
it's fun

>>79484916
Maybe I will! MAYBE IIIIIIII WILLLLLLLLLLLLL!11!!1!!!!!!!!!

>>79484897
found the non-citizen

Is Starship Troopers Invasion any good? I think it's the last time we'll see the OG Johnny Rico right?

Did critics/reviewers pick up on the fact that this entire movie is a satire of fascist propaganda when it came out? Or was the general consensus "wow what a horrible movie for horrible warmonging people"

On a related note, how was Robocop received? Did people see ULTRAVIOLENCE and immediately freak out without understanding the context?

>tfw Starship thread every day since RLM posted on Patreon that they're going to review it

>>79484994
Nope, even Roger Ebert thought it was a super srs war movie

what a fucking retard

>>79484501
It would be impossible to launch a projectile across the galaxy and hit a target that precise without technology that the bugs clearly didn't possess.

>>79484994
it's not horrible no mather how you look at it

>>79485053
Well the press clearly didn't agree with you. They crushed this movie at release.

I don't know what kind of fucking morons look at a Verhoeven movie like this and say "this is a gritty war drama"

Like how the fuck?

>>79484358
I do not remember this scene.

>>79485132
the same kind of mindless fish that eat up oscar bait

>we don't live in the timeline where Starship Troopers got a proper sequel

Goddamn it. Verhoeven plz save us, retcon 2/3/Invasion and give us the Starship Troopers sequel we deserve.

> tfw you will never live in a turbofascist empire.

Would probably be pretty cool everyone sort of working together rather than hating one another.

>>79484777
My dear I hope not that colour, anyway..

>>79484817
I think in the books the bugs are less retarded animals and more intelligent alium

They use guns and starships and shit

>>79485188
I'm sure it's been talked about before but I haven't been around to read it. What is /tv/'s ideal Starship Troopers sequel?

>>79484860
>FASCISM IS FOR KUKS
This is factually correct.

>>79485202
I really like teal. In a completely different topic unrelated to the thread, would it be possible to pull off teal pants?

>>79485188
It's not a movie that needs a sequel, it tells its story perfectly. There isn't much to add.

>>79485194
Walking hand-to-hand to your destruction doesn't sound very good.

>>79484499

Argentina is full of a bunch of white ass northern Italians, they're not spics.

>>79484677
but the book was actually pro fascism

the movie is just taking the books ideas and parodies them.

one thing I did like about the book was that the bugs were a metaphor for communism. everbody is just some mindless drone that looks and does the same thing with a tiny elite class that controls everything

>>79485210
The federation uses falsified intelligence to harvest resources of some random planet and it backfires

>>79485240
>one thing I did like about the book was that the bugs were a metaphor for communism. everbody is just some mindless drone that looks and does the same thing with a tiny elite class that controls everything

So is the modern day "West"

RLM is reddit

And now everyone is talking about Starship Troopers.

>>79485264
you are reddit for being update with the latest RLM content

and you are a newfag for not knowing we have had these threads since forever

dip

>>79484315
First time I got really stoned I watched this movie.
Couldn't figure out if it was satire or if it was just a bad movie.

Never found out

>>79484677
So we going to finally see Heinlein's Mecha Infantry?!?!?!

Reminder that Heinlein books is what inspired Gundam, not only Starship Troopers but also Moon Is A Harsh Mistress about a space colony rebelling against Earth rule.

>>79485333

It's Satire

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>>79485259
Look in a mirror Ivan

>>79485259
only if you are white, straight and male

anybody else is a victim group thanks to identity politics

>>79485333
I watched that movie when I was 12 and always new that it was satire

I really don´t get why this is so hard to understand.

those news reports are pure parody

The reason why the critics bashed this movie was because it appealed to male teenagers and young men.

It is a well made movie don't matter how you slice it, the special effects still hold to this day and the battle scenes are awe inspiring.

>>79485403
I still can´t believe how good it all looks.

most have something to do with the fact that the aliens all have very basic designs that seem believable and because it has a good mixture of probs and cgi

>>79484499
many nazis went hiding in south america after world war 2

it was a side gag

>>79485403
The special effects were all around pretty great, but I can't help but feel that ship models would've been a way better choice. I guess it would've been hard to capture the sheer scope of the fleet?

More nighttime battles would've been great too. Still impressed that the visuals don't look like ass in stark desert light.

>>79485386
Your mom was probably still wiping your ass when you were 12, autismo.

>>79485437
Not just with the bugs, but the amount of practical set pieces is really great to see. I always loved scenes in the ship or at camps because of the extensive details put into constructing the set.

>>79485490
I DON'T HAVE ARMS
HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO WIPE IT MY SELF?
HUH?
HUH?!

Even the music makes me want to kill bugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGHCoVzqtk

>>79484315
Hey, I am from Buenos Aires too and I don't that you should kill them

>>79485470
The ship ARE models. At least some of them:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/dullspork/sets/72157602084881930/

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what the hell is this thread??

>>79484822
There is a second part of this trash?

So where did the name "Klendathu" come from? Did a group of people decide that was the most foreign/evil thing they could call the bug planet?

>>79485531
Yeah, I was largely referring to the ones in the space. It's pretty obvious when they're first engaging the buds and the fleet is getting hit with artillery.

>>79484425
>you need a reason to go to war with bugs
>in a militarized society
You had too many of the bluepills, friend

>>79485403

Critics bashed the movie because they were too retarded to recognize satire.

>>79485498
I'm not sure but were they going for something when they made the design of the bugs realistic and advanced but the infantry primitive in comparison?

>>79484315
>RLM says "watch this"
>omg i liked it i must meme it now

kill yourself, faggot

>>79484719
The meteor would never have hit Earth if Carmen didn't bump it when she was piloting

>>79484315
I like how the script writer gave 0 fucks to the original book

Fun Fact: Starship Troopers is Takeshi Miike favorite movie.

>>79484315
>in ST's timeline Argentina is actually white
nice

>>79485589
I think many critics understood that it was satire, the problem is that Veorheven played straight and many young straight men loved this movie when it was relesead, setting alarm bells over the (((critics))) heads.

>>79485710
>pretending identity politics were a thing in 1997

>>79485562
___and a third.___

Why didn't they just nuke Klendathu?

Verhoven has a thing for faces. All actors and actresses in his films have a very distinct face.

>>79485621
True, was the meteor a warningshot from the bugs? Like stay away from our home humans!

>>79485731
It always been a thing. All politics is indentity politics.

>>79484567
>Hell even the god bug admits this.
Huh? When?

>>79485605
To be fair Starship Troopers threads were a thing before, the movie had a big cult following

>>79485742
They're all good looking, except the Gary Busey son.

>>79485605
back to reдit with you, newfriend

>we're not allowed to talk about Starship Troopers anymore because RLM did a video on it

:^)

>>79485741
they want to show off their military power
also bugs are resistant to radiation
also it is a habitable planet which are rare

>>79484567

Yes in the fucking shitty sequels that have nothing to do with the original. Fuck off dipstick.

>>79485765
In the third movie, duh.

The joke is that anon is taking third movie as canon, of course. Though I guess you can do that since it's written by original screenwriter, but don't expect people to agree.

>>79485589
youd have to be 12, braindead, or trolling to not realize its heavy handed satire near the surface.

>ywn be a Roughneck
[desire to know more fades]

>>79485831
I didn't even know there was a third movie, fuck.

>>79485833
Explain the critics calling it a gritty war film then

I really don't understand how people thought this played as a gritty war drama

>>79485851
___there's even a fourth one, albeit animated___

>>79484766
written by the new Baywatch writers who aren't the the reno writers so expect a mess of both versions of starship

>>79485403
The bugs look like garbage my dude.

>tfw you dont get to join the military with all your friends and go on adventures killing non humans
not even really a polcuck but i just want a more exciting life

>>79485851
ST 2 and 3 are... interesting. The second one is a low-budget horror set in a lone outpost. The third one takes the satire from original and turns it to eleven. Also features powered armour!

>>79485865
Shit, I still have to watch that.

>>79485870
Bad opinion.

>>79485833
yeah
NPH wears a fucking ss uniform in it and people still dont cop that its satire

>>79485583
The space ships are models too. I've been to a museum in Paris where they had the actual Roger Young model, it looked great

The Bugs were definitely goaded into a fight by the Federation and war's been going for ages, the "Mormon colonists" are in a Feddie military outpost. Also there's a defense grid full of ships and conveniently they missed the bug meteor.

Also all the adults are scarred and injured horrifically, implying the whole previous gen's been fighting, and the law itself demands military service for the right to even procreate and tons of other important goals.

The Federation saw an enemy, made them mad, and threw troops into ground combat to keep their regime going.

I AM TRASHMAN

KILL EM ALL 1989

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>>79484315
The only thing to truly bothered me is that they were ground troops on another planet with mini
nukes and armor piercing rounds, yet they
have the tech for intergalactic travel. and the
weapon tech isn't that high tech compared to the ships and medical aid.

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>>79485889
I love the movie but look at this. This CGI did not age well. In a way I like it, it's so blatantly CGI that is has the same effect as the practical effects in The Thing where you just completely give in to plausible deniability. But it doesn't look great.

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>Rico is from Buenos Aires
>He isn't black

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>>79484534

FRANKLY I FIND THE IDEA OF A BUG THAT 'THINKS' OFFENSIVE!

>>79485954
Eh, it looks good enough. Probably looks better in motion, though. I was mostly thinking of standard bugs though, I love the design and the effects for them.

>>79485954
I don´t know what you are trying to say here

it still looks good. all rough and dusty

it looks better then most of the cgi that we get nowadays

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>all the sickening ignorance of the filmcucks ITT

Here's the /basic gestalt/
>global society driven to the brink of collapse by socialists/leftists
>basically Weimar 2: Electric Boogaloo
>military veterans go full Freikorps on all leftists
>vets found the Federation which is a based as fuck fascist republic
>humanity explores space and meets the bugs (and other aliens)
>all species are in conflict over the same habitable worlds
>enter Juan Rico, a half-philippino high-schooler living in Buenos Aires
>family is rich as fuck running a shipping business and his father tries to bribe Rico from enlisting by buying a solar system vacation for him
>Rico enlists despite the objection of his parents because in the Federation, the one right everyone has is the right to enter federal service to become a citizen
>trains to become an elite power-armored space marine
>fights skinnies
>trains to become an officer
>finds out B. A. was wiped out by a bug invasion
>meets up with his father who has now also joined the military
>gets deployed to a newly colonized bug planet to capture a brain bug in charge of his own platoon
>wins the battle and his sergeant/2nd in command turns out to be his hardass drill instructor from basic

>>79485954
I've seen worse shit in hollywood movies from last year.

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>>79485223
Sure, if you manage to apply the necessary amount of force.

>>79486078

Fuck off with your wankfest.

>>79484720
He never finished reading the book.

He started it and pussed out.

>>79486126

(because it's shallow and shit-boring)

>>79485240
Then what are the 'skinnies'?

>>79486078
nice headcanon bro
also
> Be rich
> Lol gonna go get scared for life just maybe i get the license to run for public office

>>79486175
Other aliens. There's a lot of aliens in ST book.

>>79486175
>>79486182

He's talking about the plot of the original novel.

>>79485161
it's a cut scene from the extras afaik

>>79486191
I know.

>>79486078
>>finds out B. A. was wiped out by a bug invasion
but BA was inside job

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>>79486182

1. its in the book

2. To rico, being rich meant nothing. people in his society would view him as a lessor for not being a citezen and he had honour, patriotism and duty to consider. Something a faggot like you wouldnt understand so its ok.

>>79486175
Space muslims

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>>79486324
>people in his society would view him as a lessor for not being a citezen and he had honour, patriotism and duty to consider
Except that he was rich fucking Chad
> honour, patriotism and duty
nice buzzwords

>>79484425
We got a bug shill in here boys.

>>79484383
Thank you captain obvious.

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>>79484315

>ARGENTINA ES BLANCOOO

>>79486363
Rico was basically a failure academically. The only class he got an A in was History & Moral Philosophy. Him sucking at math is why he had to be in the Mobile Infantry or K-9 unit. But he didn't love dogs enough to MI was his only option. Keep in mind he only joined the military to get out from under his parents' thumb.

>>79484358
das hot af

>>79484315
He's really faggy-looking.

If Neil Patrick Harris then of course there's a hint of comedy or satire behind it.

I don't remember a serious role he had.

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>>79487016
>faggy-looking
rofl, you wish you were half as handsome as he is

>>79487210
Gone Girl?

>Manifest destiny across the cosmos
What's the problem again?

>>79484499

The whole movie is a satire.

Daily reminder that Verhoeven now makes movies about grannies who love to be raped.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elle_(film)

>>79484452
>>79484486

The meteor that Carmen and her ship encounter and almost crash into is the same meteor that crashes into Buenos Aires, the captain even said they should send a message to Earth and warn them of what's coming but nothing happens and it still hits the Earth.

>>79487344
hot

>>79486078

Thats all from the book, which is nothing like the movie.

The movie literally had the opposite political message.

>Book:Look at this awesome semi-fascist society built by military veterans
>Film:That society would suck, but we're going to make that point in a very subtle way.

>>79487357
they couldnt send a warning because the meteor hit their com tower

In my point of view the arachnids were the good guys

>>79487357
They had a chance to stop the meteorite due to the earth defense guns or moons? but didn't so that more citizens were going to enlist.
Look at OP pics, that part where they got interviewed even explained it, when the journalist questioned it.

The producer of the movie freely admits that he thinks that Buenos Aires was a false flag.

the bugs literally did nothing wrong

literally, not 'literally'

>>79484315

>it's another 'lel wasn't this such great satire of fascist propaganda?' thread

Reminder that 99.9% of wartime propaganda during the second world war was capitalist and communist. Hitler's speeches are heavily labelled propaganda because if you listen to/read them with a mind that is not already made up, you will find they make logical sense, and are in fact not propaganda.

Also, Verhoeven is a closet Nazi, so the propaganda/satire angle is as retarded as the commies/Jews who devised it.

>>79487907

Back to your basement, wannabe Nazi.

>>79487907
I bet you call yourself "redpilled", senpai
Commies and capitalists had their propaganda machines blaring, and you can bet that the people who bought into them like you buy into Nazi propaganda also said that they "make logical sense, and are in fact not propaganda".

>>79487907
*cringes*

>>79488029

"Ethno-national bonds are essential for the proper functioning of a worthwhile high-trust society/nation-state, and should be defended at all costs no matter what the odds" isn't propaganda, it is simple truth, which is why it is going to come around again and again until either it catches or everyone is bred down to be logically retarded, which is what the "rootless international clique" are trying to do.

Capitalist propaganda makes emotional pleas, communist propaganda uses materialistic/moral pleas, they are not the same.

>>79486175
what north korea was to the udssr

>ONE SENTENCE isn't propaganda so none of Hitler's speeches and the Nazi party's media machine was propaganda
who are you fucking kidding m8

>>79484315
>Argentinian
>white

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>79485734
Daily reminder God exists
And he is a citizen too!

>>79484315
1 hour is solid, then it degrades.

>>79488144

Fuck off, don't spew your bullshit here.

>>79488205
>what is science-fiction

>>79488457
>what is suspension of disbelief

>>79484358
mirin the jawline on both of 'em

>>79485033
>t. only watched the RLM review

>>79488597

t. fascist

>>79487663
I don't know about that, the humans have spaceships thus obtaining the higher ground.

>>79488698
And proud, how about you?

>>79484817
book bugs have technology and are pretty much communists
there are also humanoid aliens called skinnies who get the shit kicked out of them by earth until they turn on the bugs

Reminder that the bugs are incapable of FTL and their planet is millions of lightyears away so the bugs couldn't have launched a meteor even if they wanted to

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>>79484315
Did he mean the anglos?

>>79488854
they are in the book

>>79488869
holy shit, ther trully isnt an uglier race

>>79488987
The book and the movie are completely different canons. The movie is basically a satire of the book.

>>79488712

I'm very proud I'm not a pitiful person with no real self-worth and no goals who attaches himself to a fantasy of dying for an empty cause that drags everyone else into the same wasting death, thanks.

>>79489071
It tries to be but this society is just too awesome.

>>79489071
>but the book is better

>>79484677
The average military man doesn't fight in a war.

Heinlein glorifies war and idiots gobble up Starship Troopers thinking it justifies their poor life decisions and then seriously advocate that in order to vote you should have to serve in the military. Thankfully it easily outs them as morons so you can disregard everything else the retarded welfare queens have to say.

>>79489121
Yup, fascism is great and works.

>>79489319
>being this edgy
wew lad. within the past 16 years in the US, the average military man has been deployed to a combat theater. Heinlein doesn't glorify war but more so describes the inner workings of the military machine and one man's journey from civilian to soldier in this utopic society. IIRC, in the book you didn't have to serve in the military to vote but had to perform some sort of federal or civic service.

There's also the argument that having leaders and politicians who have never served a day in their life as a soldier running the military and making sweeping decisions regarding all servicemembers isn't the wisest option.

>>79488597
kid I watched this movie IN THEATERS before you were born, and have never seen RLM outside of plinkett

>>79489412

War is inherently bad for humans because PTSD and other mental health problems caused by it.

Additionally, killing is a sin but the state justifies it, so soldiers have to deal with moral and ethical contradictions, damaging their brains further.

A militaristic society perpetuates the hurting of its own people. It's evil. War should be avoided at all costs and never glorified or celebrated. Soldiers are victims and should be treated as such.

>>79489468
>war is bad
yeah we know

>the state justifies it
killing in self defense is not a sin. and why is "sin" even important

>>79489521
In what way is killing Sadam Hussein self defense?

In what way was invading Afghanistan self defense?

>>79489550
are you saying sadam wasn't a fucking war criminal? you know he used fucking Vx and Sarin gas on thousands of people?

>in what way was invading Afghanistan....
oh you're strawmanning, i see.

>>79489521

Because the vast majority of people believe sin to be a thing, duh.

>>79489468
Lol libcuck

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How do you think Verhoeven feels about his "satire" becoming an iconic film among fascists?

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>>79485954
man, all the bug action scenes aged very well, what are talking about?

>>79489584
sin is something defined by a religious book, which should not be relevant to modern law. however, what some consider to be sin will happen to overlap with the law a lot. but if you're judging an act whether or not it is defined as a sin, you're gonna have a bad time.

>>79489571
No, I'm not making a straw man. Saddam Hussein posed no threat to the American people. It was a war for oil plain and simple.

Neither was Afghanistan self defense. If anything it was retaliation, but even then it doesn't really make sense seeing as all of your hijackers from the September 11th attacks were from Saudi Arabia.

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>>79484897
post yfw you see a guy without citizenship

>>79489616
hows that philosophy 101 class treating you? only a few week in but feel like you've figured it all out?

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>>79489636

>>79489589
It's like Poe's Law in inverse. He wanted to make a parody mocking everything he hated about militarised societies and fascist/third position ideology but accidentally made it look like a perfect society instead.

>>79489589

I doubt he's surprised since the same thing happens with all edgy material, eg fascists love Judge Dredd even though it's obviously a piss take on fascism, narcissists love Patrick Bateman even though he's obviously a piss take on narcissists, wannabe gangsters love Breaking Bad even though it's obviously a piss take on wannabe gangsters.

>>79489672

Did you just not pay attention to the film or what?

>>79489646
Wow, you sure showed me with those hot facts.

>>79489710
you're moving goalposts, shitting out questions designed to prove your point while having no relation to your original comment of
>war is bad
>soldiers are welfare queens
>the military jerks itself to heinlein to justify their service

all i'm doing is using your own tactics

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>>79489636

>>79489754
War is bad. Look at all the damaged veterans that have come back, the instability in the Middle East, and corruption and bribery involved in the wars. The two wars in the Middle East have solved nothing.

Soldiers are welfare queens by and large. Seeking massive benefits for doing a job. I work in a dangerous field and industry and I don't get a killer rate on a mortgage, free education, and any of the normal benefits that many military men demand for sitting in offices and polishing floors.

The military does jerk it to Heinlein to justify their service seeing as it is often required reading material for officers. Your argument is weak shit, compadre.

>>79489831
>free education
Thats where i stopped reading

>>79489858
To be honest, I'm a little surprised you can read at all.

>>79489700
well we say that the veterans were taken care of and given jobs unlike what we see in the united states seeing veterans being homless and etc.

>>79489831
Former soldier here. You're right in that a lot of poorly educated lower class people join strictly for the bennies. But if you look at the starting salary of an private, it equals out, especially if you take into consideration that some of them will be wounded or gain some sort of mental condition due to service.

You chose to work in a dangerous field knowing the risks and rewards, I don't thin you can fault other people for what you have or don't have.

And Starship Troopers is on the USMC reading list, which is recommended, not required.

>>79489831
War is part of life for humans, animals, plants and in the future probably machines whether you like it or not.

>>79489831
if your so butthurt about it why don't you go do 3 years as a pog and get your gi bill, va mortgage.

>>79485386

step it up anon. I knew it was satire when I was in 5th grade (does some quick math--), 11 years old.

damnit.

SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP

Bugs don't have FTL.

Buenos Aires was a falseflag.

>tfw some fucking faggot civilian was being civilian near me

>>79489965
Slavery was part of life for many humans for thousands of years, but things change.

Stop being a fucking retard and understand that war is not a force of good.

what is better, ST3 or the anime with Punished "Johnny" Rico

I love this movie even without muh satire goggles. It's all just so humorously over the top with likable characters, satisfying story arc progression and action scenes that still hold up with that special Verhoeven charm.

>>79490122
stop forcing this meme

>>79490169
sadly the anime

>>79489616

Shhh anon most Americans still think Sadam flew those planes into the towers
>no really
>11 of the 19 hijackers being saudi we should have flattened SA as well

>>79490169
st3 goes full retard.

>>79490185
>thread post count goes up by one
>stop samefagging
...

>>79490155
I was not making fun of you personally; I was heaping scorn on an inexcusably silly idea — a practice I shall always follow. Anyone who clings to the historically untrue and thoroughly immoral doctrine that violence never settles anything I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms.

>>79489831
War and killing is for men what having and raising a baby is for women

>>79490279
Why ? Men make better parents, also men and women serving together makes for fun military utopia

>>79490248

not that anon, but fairly impressive post. Are you a professor something?

Just watched 1 and 2. About to start watching 3.
Ask me anything.

>>79490353

is two anywhere near as funny as the first one

>>79490169

Starship Troopers 3 is like Robocop 2. It tries to be Verhoven, but imitation Verhoven ain't the same thing. There's some entertainment value though because it's really fucking stupid AND it tries to do the whole combat mechs thing from the book with no budget to back it up.

The anime is just a kind of straight forward action movie version of Starship Troopers. But Rico looks cooler than melting old Casper Van Dien and Carmen actually gets naked.

>>79490231
never said samefag just said forced

>>79490338
>Why?
Hormones

>>79490341
Lt. Col. Jean V. Dubois (Ret.) at your service. I instruct History and Moral Philosophy.

>>79490357
unironically. like b movie funny, because its a b movie and they take it seriously.

>>79484358
I didnt know denise richards had implants since she was 19.

>>79490369
If it's not samefagging nor the result of samefagging then it isn't forced. You can argue it is a shit meme like ayy lmao is, but you can't argue against its infectivity.

Furthermore the meme has merit. It fits what we saw of the bugs and the human form of government.

>>79490357
2 has no satire, it's like if the part in 1 where they have to hold the base is the entire movie. Except made with no money at all

>>79490372
Put women in fiction military on test
there problem solved

>>79484957
Fucking mormons

>>79490357
Its more cheesy and cheap. Its looks ridiculously cheap.
>7m $ budget

>>79488144
back to your containment board faggot

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1RKvG1Rz_A&

Casper Van Dien talks about Starship Troopers 2 and 3 as well as the reboot, you guys should check it out it's pretty interesting.

>>79484486
Why the fuck else would they destroy a human city?

>>79485584
There is always a casus belli. The state of society means people just question it less.

>>79491702
why is that man allowed to be so good looking.

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>>79491927
>Don't have a CB against the middle east
>Blow up WTC from the bottom exactly when 2 planes fly into it, making everything gets destroyed (something a plane couldn't do)
>Fugg no CB for iraq
>Make up stories about WMD's
>No CB for planet p
>bomb city, it wuz bug meteors goy, now send your children off to war,... again!
Bravo

>>79492087
>Don't have a CB against the Germany
>Blow up the Lusitania making sure to leave the inexplicably unprotected and that there is a prominent American millionaire onboard
>Fugg no CB for Germany
>blah blah blah ebil Germans and Mexicans colluding to kill us all!

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>>79492087
>Blow up WTC from the bottom exactly when 2 planes fly into it, making everything gets destroyed (something a plane couldn't do)

>>79492087
>make up stories about WMD
you know WMDs don't have to be nuclear by definition?

leftists always claim there is faschism in this movie

while its typical american society that is shown

kek

>>79490155
>Slavery was part of life for many humans for thousands of years, but things change.
>implying slavery doesn't exist anymore

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>>79484499

The real Rico from the book was Filipino actually. Juan Rico.

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>>79487432

Its the exact opposite retard. the author was a rabid marxist. The director was your typical fascism is bad type but fucked up as far as conveying that. Instead it comes off as ok to audiences. hence why critically it gets panned (looking at it at the deeper narative that to them is bad) and publicly popular (face value is a fun, uniqe sci-fi film with likable characters and funny moments. On the meta-level normal people dont care/are ok with it.)

>>79486363
I like how you think there plainly 'buzzwords'. It screams to me that you have no spine at worst or at best your priorities in life are all fucked up if you cant understand or appreciate these things.

That or your a legit Tumbo autismo, in which case my sympaties to your family.

P.S: it didnt matter he was a rich fucking chad. he had personal and academic reasons why he was in the roughnecks. Money isnt the root to everyones actions in life you edgy sperg.

>>79492250
Fuck you. Duct taping some HE rounds together doesn't make a WMD.WMDs are biological, chemical, or nuclear in nature and are singled out because they are both indiscriminate and effective ways of wiping out thousands of people and they are easy enough to monitor due to require specialized infrastructure to create.

>>79487432
but the movie made that society look awesome. how did it suck?

>>79490357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKPfjSLtVhA
this is everything you need to know about 3

>>79489831
>compadre >being this smug and not actually knowing anything about history

Libcuck detected

>>79492332
>implying iraq didnt have chemical weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack

>>79484499

It's a joke on American culture taking over the world

>>79489468

Lol i killed someone in a warzone and it didnt give me PTSD you pussy.

>>79492428
same. i woke up the next day and said to my wingman, "i feel nothing"

>As he headed off the base, still shaken to the core
>The news hit him right in the face: They whacked us we're at war!
>Johnny just lost his parents
>So he must heed the call
>Johnny's from Buenos Aires
>So he says "Kill them all!!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThrVQKl04Ak

>>79492465
why was ace best trooper?

>>79492350
>Implying the world hasn't changed.
>Implying that fighting pointless wars using violence and destruction is the way to exert power in the modern world.
Economic and social posturing is a much more effective tool. Soft power is how you control the world. Military action gets you involved in drawn out expensive conflicts that accomplish very little. Where have you been for the last 50 years?

>>79492372
>1988
Is there a disease that makes it impossible to understand how the passage of time works?

>>79484315
>I'm from Buenos Aires
>character is white
immersion instantly broken

>>79492497
>military action gets you involved in drawn out expensive conflicts
thats politics son

>ALL RIGHT LETS GO SAVE THAT BITCH
>STOP YOU KNOW SHE IS DEAD
>30 seconds later
>ok lets turn here she is alive :^)

>>79492497
Naked force has resolved more conflicts throughout history than any other factor. The contrary opinion, that violence doesn't solve anything, is wishful thinking at its worst. People who forget that always die.

>>79492497

Without hard power to back it up, soft power is pointless.

>>79492547
No, that's modern society. You can't just carpet bomb a society into submission, you can't stop their children from hating you by patrolling their streets, you can't defeat modern enemies with military might. You beat them by getting them to drink coca-cola and wearing blue jeans.

>>79492499
to imply they didnt still have vx and sarin around in 2003 is plain retardation anon

>>79484777
Well I think they'd wear them like the spider on the right. The pants on the left cover up their spinnerets and in some cases species (like New-world tarantulas), the urticating bristles on their abdomen.

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>>79492582
>you cant just carpet bomb a society into submission

>>79492569

Most conflicts are prevented because the parties involved can't afford to resort to violence.

>>79492636
When you vote, you are exercising political authority, you're using force. And force my friends is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived.

>>79492627
What really made Japan submit though? It took two fucking bombs and they still weren't ready to do it.

What really beat the Japanese was changing their entire culture. Adopting Western/American values and coming to hold your once hated enemy as your closest ally. The atom bomb may have forced the military surrender, but the cultural and economic changes that were forced are what prevented Japan from rising up again.

>>79492663

But you do know that means? Do you believe?

>>79492586
>retarded... because I say so
>completely ignores the fact that the Iraqi military was gutted by the US in the first Gulf War
There is no evidence of Iraq having any WMDs. What kind of apologist BS do you read and/or listen to?

>>79492687
>the adoption of western american values in 1945
nigga they were still committing sudoku, what fucking adoption of values are you talking about? is this what they taught you in political science at the local community college?

>>79492691
i dont know

>>79492726
alex jones

>>79492627
japs are pussies. you carpet bomb all the allahuackbars, and they STILL come out of nowhere to blow themselves up.
>>79492741
they had already been pretty westernized by the outbreak of their invasion of china.

>>79489051
>cherrypicking

why is it satire?

why isn't it an exploration of a possible culture in a neat scifi setting?

>>79492887
simply because of who the director is. if mel gibson directed it, we'd say it was his dream

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>>79492627
Perfect response. Conclusive and tickled my funny bone.

>>79492563
Carl mindcontrolled him, you dummy.
Even kids got that.

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>The year of our lord 2017
>Leftists still get butthurt about the mere thought of having to contribute to society in any meaningful way

>>79492028
And charismatic

>>79492964
Whatever makes you sleep easier buddy.

>>79493230
>drawing this absurd conclusion
Are you alright, anon?

>>79492687

You post is filled with ignorance.

First of all, Japan wasn't just nuked. There had been a MASSIVE fire bombing campaign that has destroyed most of the major cities in the country. Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't really unprecedented in the level of destruction, it was just that it was done with a single bomb. Both cities could have just been bombed the normal way and the level of destruction would have been similar. Further more, Japan had offered surrenders before the nukes, it was just that America didn't accept the terms.

Secondly, Japan didn't really need to be changed culturally after WW2, only politically. Japan had been adopting western values and ideas for decades following the 1868 Meiji restoration. Japan had modeled itself around countries like pre-WW1 Germany, basically a scientific, modern, industrialized military dictatorship with a largely decorative emperor. This had turned the country into a juggernaught as most other countries in the region still clung to traditional forms of society.

>>79493407
They said that in the movie, though.

>>79493230
>He thinks throwing your life away to go fight wars for oil is a meaningful contribution to society.

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>>79493848
>Fighting to keep important resources in your nation's grasp isn't important

Do you even imperialism?

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>>79494067
The resources need to be brought in from the asteroid belt. We need to expand outwards.

>>79494120
Seems easier to take it from poor people in developing countries desu.

>>79494185
Watch the documentary movie "For All Mankind", it's the most kino shit there is and when you're done watching it, tell me mankind's destiny isn't to expand to the solar system and the stars

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>>79492290
>Robert A. Heinlein
>Rabid Marxist

>>79489682
>eg fascists love Judge Dredd

Oh yeah I've seen comic threads on /pol/ where they call Judge Dredd "red pilled". Those faggots couldn't even tell you what Comic Dredd is from

>>79492815
>you carpet bomb all the allahuackbars
We haven't nuked them yet though.

holy shit, 319 replies on a meme thread
you guys are ridiculous