Expanse Thread

rip in piss miller

Mormons got fucked

Any torrents of it yet?

>>79478401
Usually takes 1 hour or so

>Miller choosing to stay cause of the bomb instead of doing so of his own volition and twisted death wish/desire to be with Julie
Why did they have to fuck it up?

Nice a real thread be back in an hour

>>79478548
they will do the julie thing next episode

>tfw no mars gf
;_;

Epiode is out

Is this show genuinely good? Also, is the qt in op the main or a prominent character?

well i wasn't expecting that. was about to throw something at the tv because that would have been an extremely cheap death

what did they need the explosives for? to boost it more or stabilize it?

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>>79478967
I know what's coming later, but that's not what I'm referring to. In the episode the only reason he stays on Eros is cause they need a finger on the trigger to keep the bomb from going off. It made for a better character moment the way it was done in book.

>>79479209
To keep anything from inside of Eros from crawling out and trying to make a last ditch escape on it's trip sunward while also preventing anyone from landing and trying to get their hands on protomolecule.

>>79479268
is that how the belters always speak in the books?

>>79479209
To prevent entry as it entered the sun.

>>79479110
Very good.

as if she a main - Yes and no, and it hard to explain. She is the character that 1 1/2 seasons of plat have been about, but she mostly shows up in flashbacks and security cams and so on.

>>79479268
Will agree, Miller by this point in the book was ready to off himself.

>>79479209
To blow up the dock

>tfw they steal your ship.

I will do webms in the morning, want to head to bed and the episode not finished downloading.

Okay easy question: what does "belter lodah" mean

>>79480087
night thanks for doing the cool webms

>>79480095
i cannot understand a fucking thing the belters say

>tfw knew what was going to happen
i wish i didnt read spoilers but i cant help it

>>79480174
STAY AWAY FROM DA AQUA
Spanish / creole I guess fuck if I know

Bookfags: Did the Nauvoo miss Eros because they didn't take into account Eros's rotation, or did the protomolecule actually move the asteroid out of the way?

Just like in real life I want to dislike the Mormons and think they're stupid but they're so goddamn NICE all the time. Fuck

>>79480440
The asteroid moved out of the way

>>79480440

PM with Julie-mind moves it

>>79480095
http://expanse.wikia.com/wiki/Belter_Creole
Beltalowda = Belters (as in us)

>>79479268
The book gives you more insight into him but didn't he stay in the book also to be the trigger man? I can't remember now I just finished the 5th book yesterday been a while since I read the 1st.

>>79480551
Okay so I guess it means essentially "brother" for belters. thx

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>>79480140
download finally up it speed, so here I am.

>>79480508
It's weird the show makes it seem like Mormons are the only organized religion out there though, they're not

>>79480849
are there any religions that developed outside of earth?

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>Stealing my fellow mormon ship

;__;

>>79480663
When he later pulls free one of the bombs and started rolling it into the heart of Eros he placed a dead man's switch on it incase something does him in before he can find the main protomolecule cluster and set it off there.

>>79480725
Welcome back. Seems like the main big VFX for this ep was the little ships that guided the Mormon ship out of the dock, which confused me at first. I thought maybe the Mormon ship didn't have engines of its own. But that makes sense I guess to have tug ships like that. It reminded me of the prison break scene in Guardians of the Galaxy.

are the bombs nukes? they had that sign on them.

>>79480940
It looked like they were adding some detonation devices to existing nuclear devices or something? Didn't really make sense to me so I just figured hey whatever they're blowing up the surface somehow.

>>79480903
They should have shown the reaction of the Mormons watching their dream being taken! Golden opportunity missed.

>>79480508
We are nice.

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>>79480935
Yep

>>79481010
Agreed

>>79481034
Forgot the webm

>>79480849
I guess they are the only ones that are players in the space travel game though? I haven't read the books but I assume all the major religions are still around.

>>79478088

>Thinking tactical nukes, a shitty science experiment, a giant colony ship turned missle are going to take miller out.

When the 400 nuke missles come and Miller is Miller timing, then you'll see some shit.

>>79481147
Yes, the third book (least I think it was the third), features them more prominently.

>>79480896
Not that I know of, there is a "humanist" religion though which is basically organized atheism.

>>79481205
This ep was heavy on CGI. I have a quibble with building a giant metal ship in the middle of nowhere in space, makes no sense to me. Seems like you would build it in orbit of a planet with the resources to construct it.

>>79480896

it isn't that there isn't other religions but that they're the ones trying to leave to get outside of the sol system and basically humanity being stuck in one system is dangerous, so the idea to setup on a paradise world is kind of like how they went out west to setup away from civilization.

Kind of a similar idea.

>>79481360
Lol spoilers he's going to die, but even death doesn't stop him completely

>>79481461

I know, I've read the books but the missles the opa stole, the ship, the colony, none of it really kills him, him deciding to join julie is what 'kills' him. or you know..not really but yeah.

"Hey, kid."

>>79481432
They wanna leave because of human birth restrictions on earth, or at least that's part of it.

Birth restrictions are also why Holden has 7 parents or whatever, children and property are expensive on earth so communal families are more common. The birth restrictions also played a role in Amos' life but I don't think they've covered his backstory yet.

>>79481487
[spoilers] I hope the next book really advances the alien plot some more and Miller returns as their default way of communicating with Holden. I know he can't show up all over cause Holden got the bit of proto molecule off his ship but maybe he goes back inside the alien station or activates some alien ruins [/spoiler]

>>79481516
Mormons want to leave for a few reasons.

1. Have more kids
2. Mormons like to be Pioneers, and being the first to Mars or first to the next system would be awesome to most Mormons
3. Mormons get shat on constantly, and we have left places all the time only to have non mormons come and say "well you are with us again"

Also, this episode was noteworthy as Holden wasn't punch-able.

>>79481424
Costs too much to lift the materials out of a gravity well. Ergo it's cheaper to build the big ships near a very metal-heavy asteroid or two. I'd imagine the Tycho is located close to some of the largest rocks in the asteroid belt.

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>>79481649
Forgot webm, again.

And now will go to bed. I will be posting these over on the webm thread. If someone has a request from the epsiode, just post them here and I will get to it tomorrow.

>>79481424
most resources are in the belt though mate.

central concept of the show is that earth exploits the mineral wealth of the belt by controlling their access to food/water/air.

>>79481424
Gravity is a bitch. For example, any lunar colony of any size will require water shipments. It will be cheaper to ship water from Ceres then earth. Same with Ceres to mars. That why in the series Ceres water had been stripped away for other colonies and Ceres depended on water shippers from Saturn to supply water.

Tycho is known for doing crazy feats of tech - they "spun up" Eros and Ceres after they had been mined out so people could live there easily, and then started to build the Nauvoo before they ripped off the Mormons.

>>79481578

for future reference, use cntrl+s when you highlight.

>>79480508
In the books, the a lot mormons don't fall for the rad leak trick and set up boobie traps and suicide bombs to prevent the OPA from using the navoo.

>>79480935
I thought they were mormon ships trying to stop it from leaving

>>79480940
>>79480972
They were nukes they were just adding the detonators.

>>79481487
That and smashing into venus

>>79482060

Only miller could smash into a planet named after god vagina and then become an awesome crystalline entity.

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Usual links:

Adam Savage BTS videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8vR2FB1PGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fJoWSOYn6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXwe51lkJ6M

SDCC 2016 full panel - main cast and producers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLOzh1gL4xM

NYCC 2016 full panel - partial cast and producers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2F4eHTIdhc

Season One recap (with cats):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivej0OW7WZk

Season Two title sequence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krqqqgixNq8

s01e04 CQB episode space battle scene - Donnager vs Stealth ships
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpfCkkKP9eE&feature=youtu.be

The Expanse SubPlebbit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheExpanse/
Reasonably high-volume sub despite the 16K pop. Linked because the writers, Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck, plus some of the show's tech/FX people, are posting there often about BTS stuff as well as the episodes.

pastebin with the raw text:
http://pastebin.com/LxwUabNM

>>79482089

>trying to link to cancer

Fuck off and die nigger.

>>79482076
As much as I like millers character, he's a beta. Falling in love and dying for someone he never truly meets. He like most of the posters on this board.

>>79480440
Eros is going to set course for where it wants to go soon.

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>>79481961
Mars with only one moon and a debris field.

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>>79482151

>>79482151

He gets shit on his entire life and ends up saving humanity, multiple times while the entire world is against him and saying he is wrong.

You're confusing an beta with a omega. Omega's are deathwish's, personified.

>>79482151

Also to put it into context, no matter what you do in your life, you're not going to be remembered, most of humanity won't be past the first hundred years after their death, not even by their own bloodlines for the most part.

Miller is going to be remember forever. The guy you think is a beta.

>>79482598

remember'd forever*

i'm really impressed with the cgi in this show. i usually don't care about cgi, but it's very very well done in this

>>79481649
That's because we're not done punishing you for plotting sedition with that Deseret shit. When the Donald takes 80% of your stash in retroactive taxes when he gets around to making all you religions subject to business law, then you'll know your hoarding days are over and done with, and you'll never be able to afford to fund another attempt at revolting against your rightful masters.

STOP BULLYING MORMONS

>>79482719

They're being allowed to live despite being cultists. That is a cessation of bullying. People used to chase mormons and kill them.

Mormons reach new planet, Mormon finds golden plates saying Mormons have already been to this planet, Mormonmonism is born.

>>7948259
He only gets shit on because he doesn't realize how pathetic he is until its pointed out to him years in advance and if memory serves correct only a handful of people know and will die not passing on the truth

>>79482820

He doesn't understand he becomes a shit heel till after he has realization that someone pulls him aside and tells him that you can only be this bad if you were once great, kind of thing which is why Julie case is his detective noir comeback story, sort of like L.A Confidential and Rolo tu masi or whatever.

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Reading book 3
>a guy named Bull why others call him Mr. Baca (for some reason I don't remember if he's black or not, which makes it even more funny)
>A lesbian priest just like in that Swedish robot show
>mfw
But all an all I'm enjoying it so far.

>>79478088
His waifu will save him.

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Can a lone Zaku II with the standard 120mm machine gun and bazooka take out the Roci?

>>79483277

Anime doesn't use real physics, that shit would be destroyed without ever seeing the roci.

>>79478079
1080p when

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Holy fuck the Molinari is a real junker...

Bit worried about how close the Mol and Roci are here too. Aircraft flying within a km of each other cause conniptions at airports.

>>79482151
So what? The book was written by nerds. It's nice to see nerds and waifuists finally making one of their own a hero, instead of yet another chad. Deal with it, wannabe normie.

>>79482230
A year after the first season and I still can't see the point of the spy character. It's filler like this which kills the ratings.

>>79482617
In the third book though a news reporter asks Holden if it was he who diverted Eros by talking to Julie. Meaning, bitches don't know 'bout my skinny Miller's sacrifice ;_;

>>79483277
It would't though, zeeks are basically Belters of Gundam universe

One thing I really like about this show is that they actually move the plot forward in every episode. Seems like recently every new show with an interesting premise moves so fucking slow.

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scammers everywhere even in space

>>79483793
Yeah, that is a plus to it being based on a book that doesn't fuck around. I like seeing actual progress in this show.

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>>79483919
> For as little as one dollar per month, you can help doctors without borders to support belters infected with the protomolecule

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>>79483487

Goodbye sweet nauvoo

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>>79483301
>>79478079
>tfw Legion ep2 is out in 1080p and it wasn't even aired yet, before than Expanse ep4 1080p

>>79484368
The Nauvoo isn't gone

>>79484087
Today those commies bring non-whites to europe and support terrorists
where will they bring the scum in the future?

>>79483505
>A year after the first season and I still can't see the point of the spy character. It's filler like this which kills the ratings.

According to IMDB he's coming back - protomolecule monster on Ganymede?

>>79481865
>For example, any lunar colony of any size will require water shipments.
Doesn't make sense, tons of water on the moon
>It will be cheaper to ship water from Ceres then earth
Garbage
Earth -> Moon is a short trip, meaning you'll be able to do it hundreds of times in the space of one Ceres -> Moon run
Earth -> Moon is not much less delta-v than Ceres -> Moon anyways
Going back from the Moon to Earth is also way way less delta-v

Overall round trip 2 orders of magnitude faster, less delta-v needed

The idea that there will be some shortage of water anywhere people settle is madness, ESPECIALLY if you are no longer splitting water for your hydrogen & oxygen to fuel your ships....

>>79484731
>Earth -> Moon is not much less delta-v than Ceres -> Moon anyways
Bullshit. Escaping Earth's gravity well is far more expensive.

>>79483793
Except the boring af filler s02e01. WHat were they thinking? They killed the ratings.

>>79484784
What do you believe "expensive" is supposed to mean

Because the fuel cost of a 9km/s delta-v burn to escape Earth is negligible compared to letting your ship coast for years
All irrelevant anyways, noone will be shipping around bulk resources like that

If you are gonna say they use a magic propulsion technique, then launching from Earths surface will be even more trivial

>>79484831
>Because the fuel cost of a 9km/s delta-v burn to escape Earth is negligible compared to letting your ship coast for years
Strawman. Shipments take weeks not years.
You're the only one who has decided that time is the most important factor.

>>79484731
>Doesn't make sense, tons of water on the moon
We just need to process millions of tonnes of moon rocks to get at it!
Easy.

>>79484862
lol
If you can fly from Ceres to the Moon in weeks burning HUNDREDS of km/s delta-v, then launching from earth is nothing

There is no magic cost in "escaping Earths gravity"
It is just a question of delta-v & thrust

don't their future engines go at a % of light

>>79483793
This and the last one had pretty fucking good endings too. Hard to do when you're adapting shit but even shows that don't or that do it loosely constantly fail to end episodes on a bang.

>>79484958
everything goes at a % of light

>>79484917
no its frozen in craters
Which is still vastly easier to do than shipping it across the fucking solar system

>>79484992
like 5% tho

Why are there always Expanse threads, and never The Magicians threads?

>>79485095
unless my math is fucked the nauvoo actually reached 6,671281903963% the speed of light

so yeah who knew

dam them some good rockets

>>79485139
because that show is garbage

t. someone who's only ever seen the last part of an episode before my recording of The Expanse started

looks stupid as fuck tbqh

>>79485215
acshually is 6,671281903963041%

thx dolan

>>79484958
their drives can burn for a pretty long time, so, as long as you don't intend to decelerate they can probably reach a significant percentage of the speed of light before running out of fuel.

>>79485236
It's not though.

I mean even if it is, I still don't see why it is never talked about here. Apparently it's one of SyFy's most popular shows?

>>79483242
are you implying that his waifu moved eros to save him?

>>79485355
people here only care about shows when they're good or have actresses from twilight
not even joking

>>79485355
most of the syfy shows are overlooked by /tv/
on the other hand shittier shows get threads, thanks to shills

>>79485585
I know, I men I don't watch SyFy really since I'm in the UK, and SyFy has a bad reputation. I've heard The Expanse and The Magicians are seen as being much better quality than the others though, and from watching The Magicians I wouldn't doubt it. So I'm just confused by why The Expanse is so popular here, but The Magicians doesn't even get a thread when it airs.

>>79485428
>or have actresses from twilight
Examples? An odd pattern to discover haha.

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>still no 1080p rip

so glad Miller looks like survivin, he's the best character

also the Fredfu

>no martian marine bitch
>best episode so far

Really excites my protomolecules

>>79486516
I want to see her naked desu

>>79482142
Reddit is literally better than this site though

>>79486758
it depends on what you are looking for

>>79486475
>He doesn't get Amazon prime free for a month,rip the shows and then cancel his subscription before paying.
Low goy

>>79486785
For techology and sales Reddit eclipses 4chan for sure.

Also since 4chan lost its archives it's hard to keep good threads

>>79484831

>If you are gonna say they use a magic propulsion technique, then launching from Earths surface will be even more trivial

Well, they do. The Epstein Drive is at the very, very edge of what is even remotely plausible scientifically but it also doesn't work in atmo.

The Nauvoo is being built out at Tycho Station because it's the only place in the system willing to get involved in a project that ambitious any way. Everyone else was like "Haha, generation ship so you guys can go to live around another star. Fucking nope, can't be done."

Whereas Tycho was like "Interesting. Go on..." and then figured out how to do it.

>>79486758
but you need an account to post

>>79479330

It's "low class" belter speak. Belters can all understand it and speak it but speaking proper English is a sign of higher education.

>>79481205
Does it run on Jet fuel?
Cause it really melted that steal beam.
^^
Good episode anyway.

>>79484510
>where will they bring the scum in the future?

Space-Australia.

Aka, Pluto.

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>>79485682
There were Magicians threads here for the first season - no clue as to why nobody seems to be running them now. Probably not aware that the new season has started I'd guess.

Landmark moment in tonight's ep as bitchy Margo finally got told (by Julia). Still, can't fault Summer Bishil on her body of work.

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>The.Expanse.S02E04.1080p.WEB.x264-HEAT[rartv]
>The.Expanse.S02E04.1080p.WEB.x264-HEAT[rartv]
>The.Expanse.S02E04.1080p.WEB.x264-HEAT[rartv]

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>>79486758
The Expanse sub is pretty neat. Very high volume of posting for such a low population - which generally indicates enthusiastic participants so far as internet forums/boards go. That the authors and sfx guys post OC there often is a huge bonus.

>>79486841
>but it also doesn't work in atmo.
There's no magic in rockets
It's just an exhaust being pushed out
If they have enough thrust to push a ship at over 1 g, then it can take off from Earths surface.

>>79487306
Is this a scene from episode 5? pretty hot

>>79486758
That's such a low bar, it's a meaningless statement.

>>79487449
Ganymedean culture is a bit different from the rest of the belters/gas-giant moonies.

>>79487271
Magicians kinda dropped in quality this season.
Martin/"Beast" singing was cringey as fuck. And the season began so cold and filled with even more useless videogamey sidequests. It kinda lost the appeal to me.

>>79487306
>these women are all now 60

Are mormons fucked? Is there ship going into the sun?

>>79488014

Nauvoo is going to keep burning into an orbit. Read on if you want to be spoiled. Mormons are pissed about it but nothing much develops on that point. However, the OPA salvage the vessel and turn it into the system's biggest, but not best, warship.

>>79488014
No I don't think so, it wouldn't make sense for the trajectory of the ship to send it into the sun. Plus they can just turn around since the ship is fine. I have a feeling the Martians or someone is gonna blow it up soon though.

>>79482780
Don't you mean Moremormonism?

>>79488050
>going to keep burning into an orbit.
What ddoes that mean?
It's stuck revolving around the sun? Is the fuel a one time deal?

>tfw we dont get to see mormon suicide bombers

>>79480849
Mormons are the most enthusiastic proselytizers of all religions. I live in Asia and see those creepy white shirt fuckers from utah all the time.

They would definitely be the ones to try and convert space aliens or whatever.

>>79488106

If something's not on an extra-solar trajectory with enough speed it will eventually settle into some kind of orbit around the sun.

>>79488053

Ship was running on autopilot and burning way harder than it was ever designed to so they could get it to Eros fast enough that nobody would be able to stop it and it could knock Eros into the sun. It's gonna keep going on that vector until the fuel tanks run dry.

Granted on both points the TV version hasn't said much about it because it's got a show, don't tell philosophy.

>>79488244
>send 18 year olds to everyone's door to share their wisdom of how to live life
It works apparently. People are buying what they're selling.
I like their portrayal on the show, I was afraid they were gonna go a hackey route where they were actually evil or something.

>>79487515
Did you not like episode 3?

>>79486758
While you're here and not there. Hypocritical piece of shit. Fuck off.

>>79488470

Tits McGee was the only reason I was watching, so guess.

>>79482712
Look at this guy. Kek

hate to break it to you, he made a mormon woman the RNC chair, he ain't going to do crap to Mormons.

>>79488652
post is 6 hours old dude

>>79488537
Well, that means you could've liked episode 3, and just hate everything from now on.

>>79484731
>Earth -> Moon is not much less delta-v than Ceres -> Moon anyways
Ummm, you might want to the math again.

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I wonder when this guy will pop up again.

>>79484831
>What do you believe "expensive" is supposed to mean
>Because the fuel cost of a 9km/s delta-v burn to escape Earth is negligible compared to letting your ship coast for years
You can make the round trip from Luna->Ceres-Luna for about the same it takes to go into LEO.

The biggest cost of spaceflight is DeltaV, (and reducing weight due to that cost)

>>79488888
nice digits beltaloada

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>>79487306
>Webm thread creators also all hang out in expanse threads.

Nice.

>>79482780
That the plot of BSG

>>79489029
dum dum dum dum dummmm

>>79488244
All jokes aside, it a very practical faith.

>>79488888
Quints confirm Earth must GAS THE BLETERS

so ... will the mormons get back their Nauvoo now that it missed target? or will they just let it go to the Sun or void or whatever?

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>>79488437
>I like their portrayal on the show, I was afraid they were gonna go a hackey route where they were actually evil or something.

Mormons not shown as being evil is a nice respite from the usual. Also, many Mormons are science fiction fans, so it a good idea when writing a book to be nice to Mormons.

Also, I will go on the record, not all Mormon's are nice. Orson Scott card is a asshole.

>>79489075
If you want to be spoiled The Belters salvage it, and instead of giving it back to the Mormons, they turn it into a warship. Mormons can't do much to them.

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>>79489119
Is there even a lower form of human scum than fucking Belters?

>>79489171

No worries anon, because of what happens with the plot; humanity is going to get to spread out to many other systems, so mormons get to leave soon.

Gas belters, space war now

>>79489092
mormons are more annoying than evil

>>79489240
Yep, in the long run there is a much better way to find new systems, so mormons can build many colonies for much less.

Though I am worries about ratings anons. The Expanse is giving SyFy great PR, but the ratings are still meh.

>>79489363
Will say as a Mormon, missionaries are annoying, I really can' stand the elders. The Lady missionaries I don't mind as I know they want to be there. Lot of elders go due to duty and peer pressure.

>>79489383
I wonder if they will cancel their best show

>>79489383

It was never going to be the breakout show that BSG was, they committed first by building an awesome mini series that acted as one long pilot.

Same reason they didn't go with Blood and Chrone.

They tested the waters first. I love Miller but in order to have a strong show you either need a hook or a strong cast and besides Jane and some guest actors..

Cast are newbies and not strong at all and they were never going to elevate the material.

at least Moore understood you need a lot of fucking cheese cake and fan servicy shit and he just built that right into the fabric of the show by putting tons of women everywhere.

>>79489436
>>79489449

Just hoping for a 3rd season at this point. The Bad news is that only about 700k people watch it. Which is not much for it cost.

The good part is the 700k are the types that Ad people want to get to, so they can charge more for ads then the number would indicate, and it gives them tons of buzz unlike some of there other shows like Dark Matter.

>>79489383

None of their sci-fi shows have had really great ratings but they keep doubling down on them. My guess is that one of the top-level suits has decided to rebuild it as an actual sci-fi network and is giving shows like Dark Matter, Killjoys, and this multiple seasons to work towards that goal. How long they'll continue is anyone's guess though.

>>79489449

Shoreh Agadashloo is fucking badass (especially now that she's allowed to swear properly) and the guy playing Fred has been in a few other things, usually as a heavy similar to the one he's playing. Half of the Roci crew is also awesome but unfortunately that half is Amos and Tex, and they're the supporting act for John Snow and Naomi so... welp. I honestly think they're going to keep Miller around to avoid their book fate and that's why they introduced Adam Jensen last season.

>>79489627
To be fair, if they keep miller around I would be totally okay with it. The Show will be much weaker without him and bobbie actress is weak

>>79489627

His entire charachter is a noir death wish, it wouldn't make sense for him to live like that and if you read the books, they might do something with his 'new' self but the old one is as good as Miller time.

and we're going to have to agree to disagree, the old woman, bobbi are much weaker than their book counterparts and rest of cast is one dimensional.

only person that has really filled their roles more for me is Tex and naomi and that isn't enough.

Shoreh is literally majority of book 2 along with bobbi and either they just don't know how to write political intrigue and make it interesting since what colors your viewpoint of the intrigue is the internal dialogue, I just don't see how they can make it better than book.

>>79489675

With Bobbie they basically had to decide whether to get a ~6-foot Pacific Islander woman or someone who can act. I seriously don't think there's a Pacific Islander actress alive who's like six and a half feet tall, massively jacked, and equipped with DDs like book!Bobbie so they did they best they could. The actress playing her is actually an IRL boxer and has fought professionally so she may be able to bring it if given time to develop- Tricia Helfer wasn't that great at first either but in the end could hold her own with EJO, after all.

On the other hand she might turn out to be Gina Carano-tier.

>>79489812

They got helfer because she knew how to be a sexy woman by instinct and even director is like, I can teach you how to act, you just be you.

That can be engaging because a woman that knows how to do that can hold an audience. Bobbi's actress is none of that, her internal dialogue was a good chunk of her view point..and now they're going to not only need her to speak but..shit did you even watch her scenes so far?

that is doa already.

I know nothing about Mormons, what's their deal with space?
Is it like scientology where god is an Ayylmao that came on earth with spaceships and created us?

>>79489863

Yeah, so far Bobbie's been shit and the training sequence was fucking retarded. The armour wrestling shit too, Frankie is nowhere near ripped enough for that to be even vaguely believable. But eh, she hasn't had much to do so far and might still develop. Gonna be shit if she can't get it together for when she works with Shoreh though.

>>79489866

Something along the lines of God living or waiting for us on another planet called Kolob. A whole bunch of the mythology in BSG is ripped directly off it because Larson is an IRL Mormon.

>>79489866
mormons have space jesus

>>79489913
>A whole bunch of the mythology in BSG is ripped directly off it
Oh, I thought it was ancient Greece stuff.
If Mormons support SF and space exploration, they're ok in my book.

why did they destroy the alien infested station?

>>79478079
best episode yet t b h

>>79490014

>Oh, I thought it was ancient Greece stuff.

Some of it was, but Kobol and the references to all this has happened before was for the original series, which had a lot more Space Mormonism going on.

>>79490017

Everyone else is a dumbass who thinks they can control the protomolecule and turn it into a weapon.

>>79490014

The original writer of BSG was a mormon, BSG story has always been mormon, and allegorical, and R.D Moore = mormon.

Which is why religion is a prevalent theme from the very beginning, people just didn't notice because space ships and hot chicks and gaius being gaius.

The entire story of BSG is allegorical, and makes complete sense. Strangely a lot of S.F writers are mormons, since they can wed political philosophy, allegorical/metaphoric settings with their past and ideas. A lot of writers are either shitting on mormonism or enabling depending on the one. Modesitt Jr is one of my favorite authors for theistic breakdown.

Don't worry, he'll be back.

sort of...

>>79489866
>>79489934
Mormons do not have "Space Jesus".

(warning - Mormon theology incoming)

Mormons do not believe in the Trinity like most Christians do. They think that there is God, Jesus, and the holy ghost who are separate beings united in purpose.

Mormons believe that everyone is a literal child of god spiritually, and that the heavily father at one time was much like us, and after living a life became God. Thus Mormons think that we as humans come to earth, live our lives to grow, and then after death return and the 2nd coming and so on. So it not "Space Jesus" but our spritual father came from another world. (Mormons use the term Kolob for that world as a placeholder.) So it not space Jesus, but Space Elohim.

>>79490014
>>79490116
>>79490145
BSG has a LOT of mormon elements - the orignal series was choke full of it, and the new one still had a lot of carry over.

The New BSG had some greek stuff as padding to make it less heavy handed, but everything from veil experiences at the temple, What happened to starbuck, that the five didn't remember their previous lives, that without death there is a limit to spiritual growth and so on is all Mormonism. Let alone stuff like the Quorum of the 12 , kobol/Kolab and so on.

Just as a note, RD Moore is not a Mormon, you are thinking of the producer of the first version.

And yes, there are a LOT of Mormon writers in SF

>>79490644

I was always under assumption he was mormon.

>>79490721
No worries - I had to double check, as he can come off as a Mormon easily enough. He is a "Recovering Roman Catholic" apparently.

Why was there no space squash in this episode?

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>>79478079
>that ending

Holy fucking shit.

>>79491120

>Miller just watching the ship coming at him
>He's like hurry up and get here already, shit
>Slowly see it sliding by
>wtf
>Guys im not dead, why am I not dead yet, fuck

>>79491162
imagine the rage brewing up inside him being denied a glorious death

>>79491120
how do you move a station like that
makes no sense

>>79491356
Alien space magic

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>>79491356

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>>79491184
>>79491162
>>79491120
>>79491054

>>79491356
ayylien space magic

also note how miller felt no acceleration even though that kind of mass moving that quickly would pancake you

>>79491356
Space magic.

At least in the books it is accepted as one of those holy fuck what in the fuck are we fucking dealing with you know how much energy it takes to move eros fuck fuck fuck moment.

>>79491356
a lot of mass moving at the same time in one direction can influence the trajectory of a vehicle.

>>79491356
Manipulation of gravitational fields.

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>>79491356

>>79491413

>aliens develop localized gravity manipulation and internal dampening in one move
>not gangsters of space and time.

>>79491356
everyone in the station jumped at once

>>79491532
Well..spoilers.

They can sling rocks, but the big impressive thing is that they figured out how to make gates to other systems. So they launch a rock with the Protomolecule to the sol system. It became Phebe. Eros (who still has Mao as it prime thinker) wants to head home. Miller talks to his waifu and convinces her to go to Venus instead of earth. For one book it doing crazy stuff on venus till it becomes a Jump Gate.

>>79491356
You know that the aliens that created the protomolecule have incredible technology and they are almost godlike, right?

>>79491630
so aliens just want to trade?
they better bring lots of shiny beads

>>79491630

Seems like a good movie if FTL is impossible.

>>79491741

movie - move*

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Did anyone else get a Homeworld vibe from all that shtp-to-ship radio chatter?

>>79491741
even with ftl moving would take years
with jump gates it is instant

>>79491778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAiJgdjKArg

>>79491778
ok I know what you mean, I also thought the same but can't find the right video

>The stars are better off without us
>proceeds to destroy the first and only interstellar colonial effort
I'm beginning to hate Miller.

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>space thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NntjmwybRFk

>>79491958
well they were mormons
if they met other life forms, they will come to earth to eradicate humans, thinking all humans are like them

Surprisingly it's getting better with each episode

>>79491994
Mormons are great though. They are a little too passive aggressive to make up for being nice all the time, but just because they are nuts doesn't make them bad people. And if it takes religion to motivate people to colonize the stars then maybe religion isn't so bad.

>>79491979
yes spes thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr_79Jm62mo

want to contribute to the thread but cant deal with all the spoilers.
i guess i deserve it for being a belter scum and only watching it illegally

>>79491162
>>Miller just watching the ship coming

and not even bothering to try using something to hold the bomb trigger

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>>79482230
THE YEAR IS 22XX. IT'S A TIME OF SPACE EXPLORATION AND TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT.
IT'S ALSO A TIME OF CHAOS AND CONSPIRACY.

c: pasubio jensen

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>>79492032
>And if it takes religion to motivate people to colonize the stars then maybe religion isn't so bad.
This desu

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>>79491979
I love how the music is old worldy despite the science fiction setting. It hits home the reality that humanity will be a space fairing race longer than we were hunter gatherers in Africa. Space will become the ancient history.

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Is this a good sciencefiction show?

>>79492270
I wouldn't say it's science heavy, but it's there and done pretty well.

>>79492242
>Amarr
>using religion for colonization
You are all wrong. The colonialism that led them to found Amarr had nothing to do with religion. That comes later.

>>79492232
Pretty sure it purposefully requires a finger

>>79479110
The show itself is okay. Nothing more, maybe a bit less. It's your typical SyFy channel tale where they were given a golden goose on a platter, and then smeared it all over with shit.

The book series itself? Fucking incredible, and one of the most enjoyable things I've read in years, but the show diverges so goddamn hard from it, and in ways that make zero sense at all, that I can't stand to watch it.

>>79492730
elaborate

Holy shit, Christjen is literally carrying the entire show on her own, also she's the only genuinely likable character. How can one woman be so based?

The crew of the Roci are fucking obnoxious and I wish they were fucking killed

Martians are badass and need more screen time.

>>79492874
too bad she is actually a replicant

>>79492762
If you mean elaborate on the shows failings, here's a few from just S1E1 alone:

-The entire Scopuli start? Totally fucked. In the book, the Captain wants to avoid going near it, but Holden tells the crew they can't do it. It's one of the major early things that establishes him as a highly moral character.
-The guy on Ceres that Miller questions about the filters? In the book, that's Miller telling a story about a guy who didn't do the filters right. He was tossed out of an airlock, because you just don't let people fuck with your air/water/food in the belt. In the SHOW? Miller takes a fucking BRIBE from him, going directly against the entire idea that it was trying to establish with that scene.
-The pointless scene of the guy getting his arm crushed at the beginning, which was done in the background in the book
-There are some minor errors with Julie at the beginning, but those aren't generally TOO bad, but if you've read the book it's mildly irritating
-The ENTIRE fucking scene with the military engagement and them evading the missiles didn't happen at all. It fucks up the explanation INCREDIBLY hard, and in the book, it's part of the start of establishing a lot of the rules of how shit works in space. In the show, it's just some shitty generic, poorly done action sequence.

On it's own, as a completely unrelated standalone, the show is alright. It's nothing particularly special, but it doesn't fuck up too hard. It's entertaining enough to be acceptable.

As something related to the Expanse series? It's... irritating. It tries in some ways, but then it fucks up collosally in others, and it does it in a way that if you know what's actually going on, it's this giant, glaring fucking sign of "Dude, what the FUCK"

Here, this is the first two books and a good reader that'll let you access them. See for yourself, don't just take my word for it.
http://pastebin.com/QTX4neWZ

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What did he mean by this?

Also
>can't maneuver in space for shit and get called out on it
>H-hey at least I got laid, in world where there are brothels everywhere

>>79491356
EmDrive

>>79493233

Poppa, you try no throw up, ya?

>>79493233
I think they fugged

>>79493233
The kid said EVA was enjoyable like sex, Miller said he was sure he never had sex before to communicate that EVA was by no means enjoyable from his perspective.

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>>79491120
Eros be all like "Alderaan fired first, foo"

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>>79493425
>EVA was enjoyable like sex

Can't they duct tape something to keep the safety on?

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>>79493804

>>79493804
the age old question

do i duct tape the nuke or do i use it to kill everybody ?

>>79493354
>I think they fugged
Definitely. He was Miller's boy toy, he even moved in with him for a while.
Papi likes boipussy methinks.

>>79493028

>It's irritating

Yeah that pretty much sums it up. If you've read the books the show is frustrating.

Especially Miller.

>>79494023
I am far, far too fond of Miller to subject myself to watching the show long enough to see him.

Is it as bad as I'm expecting it to be? Because based on what I've seen so far, I'm expecting it to be really, really bad.

>>79494078

It's pretty bad. I liked the actor in season 1 as he fit my mental image of Miller quite well but right from the get-go He's doing completely un-belter things for no reason.

Latest episode it should have been his clear intention to die on Eros. Instead it was an accident that resulted in the deadman switch.

>>79480935
Don't forget some of the gantry catching the exhaust from the Navoo's Epstein drives and heating up red-hot.

Fucking top tier VFX and technical direction. This is the first show I've watched where I read it first when I don't want to throw up at the onscreen depiction. muh dick

>>79486925
"Epstein" fusion drives. Basically a high-efficiency fusion drive which uses magnetic coil exhaust acceleration. No fuel involved aside from the fusion reaction mass (iirc deuterium in the universe of the Expanse)

>>79493028
>>79494078
You spend your life overreacting to everything?

>>79491958
he's a brilliant character. Equal parts asshole and hero. His back and forth with Dawes was amazing

>>79494362
These threads seem to be autism magnets for some reason.

>>79494647
So what's up with Miller and Cheng? Obviously it isn't love, per se. Is it that he resents being "the man" for most of his life, cracking down on belters for the sake of Earth corporations, and sees the Earther Cheng living for the Belt as something admirable, and that saving her and later living for her cause as a way to make up for his own life?

>>79485374
Yes.

>>79490644
Thanks for the breakdown. Interesting religion.

>>79492205
Might as well go full space buccaneer, m8, and pirate the books. After you read them, you needn't fear spoilers anymore.

>>79492267
>humanity will be a space fairing race longer than we were hunter gatherers in Africa
Let's hope. Sorry for blog, but damn, it's so rare to see an optimistic person on this site among all the butthurt doomsday-prepper self-styled 'traditionalists'. Sometimes they are hella persuasive, and you have to really make an effort to see their 'fuck modernity, it's the endtime!1!' blabber for what it is - projections of a pathetic neckbeard who is too autistic to adapt.

>>79492730
>Fucking incredible, and one of the most enjoyable things I've read in years
Like the atmosphere, but the third book has some sloppily edited parts. Also they could cut back on imitating GURM.

>>79492874
Dawes>Miller>Crisjen>Errinwright>Amos>Alex>Naomi>>>>>>>>>>>Holden

>>79494781
Miller is autistic and fell in love at a person he was investigating or some shit

>>79490644
So. . .Buddha?

>>79488888
It'll be a while but he does return. Remember he's the defacto governor of Ceres station now.

>>79494860
I wonder if his people will have some fun with Octavia Muss

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>>79494782
>doomsday prepper verses advocate of the exploration, exploitation, and colonization of space
I have Bug-Out-Bag in my car. Be the change you want in the world. If everyone is prepared for the end of the world then there is no end of the world.

Got to save the species at multiple levels.

I hope if and when I have kids I don't lose my protectiveness of humanity as a whole.

>>79494782
>Like the atmosphere, but the third book has some sloppily edited parts. Also they could cut back on imitating GURM.

The third book was the weakest for sure. 2nd was my favorite. I think 4 will be cool on TV though... if I'm remembering it correctly. 4 is the one set mostly on the alien planet right? its like a wild west type story almost + lots of Miller time

>>79494822
I think you are projecting the exaggerated "waifu" culture of 4chan onto him.

I think the only "love" he has for her is for the kind of person that lives for something. Cheng is Miller's role model now. She inspired him to live and possibly die for the Belt.

>>794947
Miller>Chrisjen>Amos>Alex>Johnson>>>piss>>>shit>>>Naomi>Holden>'Oi, Pampaw'-guy>Mao-father>Bobbie>Useless but ridiculously hot spy guy

S2 has been GOAT so far

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>>79491120
>the nauvoo didn't move

>>79495016
>ridiculously hot
really?!

How many episodes this season? I wonder if they're gonna try and cover all of book 1/2. I feel like there's not enough time...

>>79495399
Wikipedia says: A 13-episode second season premiered on February 1, 2017.

>>79495418
fuckin great I'm used to HBO 10 episode seasons

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>>79495247
I meant this guy (though perhaps he only seems like that because the others are ugly)

>>79495595
he looks like Elijah Woods' cousin

>>79495595
Him and Amos are the only guys in the cast that look good.

>>79479110

it is very good.

10/10 world building

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Based Amos saving the series

>S1
>didn't like any of the characters really

>S2
>like all of them now
hmm

>>79496359
>makes a joke
>no one gives a shit

>>79496392

You didn't like Miller at least in the 2nd half?

>>79496359

I really like that even if he's fucked in the head, even he's not as fucked in the head as magnetically massaged brain guy.

>>79496496
He kind of grew on me in the last 2 eps of S1 but I only started liking him this season.

>>79496359
>>79496496

I've never read the books, but I am a heavily disabled bloke who still works in the UK.

If you basically imagine a man with dyspraxia, dyslexia, dyscalcula and dysgraphia, ADHD, aspergers and autism.

Combine High function with aspie rage, a moral compass but a high need for an external guide and you have Amos.

Originally I took one look at the guy and thought he was a shameless rip of Tyrol from BSG - as I watched the series and then listened to the audiobooks, Amos is one of the few characters who will carry the series.

Also, Miller will /always/ be our guy, even if he ends up becoming fucking weird bullshit protomolecule gate bullshit with his waifu

>>79485236
Also, the book is gay.

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>>79485236
>>79485355
>>79485139
funny http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/syfy-tv-show-ratings-updated-33879/

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>700k
shame

>>79496359
was one of the most bland member (hard to choose), but i get to like him moe and more

>>79499032
>shit shows get lots of viewers while good ones get far less
ebin

>>79499032
Also who the fuck cares about viewership ratings in 2017.

>>79478079
I hate almost everyone in this show.
Why are the martian squad guys such shitheads?
What's up with the awful hair cuts?
Why is everyone so ugly?
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE LINES OF THE MARTIAN SHITHEADS IT SEEMS LIKE A TEENAGER'S DRAMA.
Captain of the ship can't act to save his life god damn.

>>79499553
the station? to renew it or cancel shows?

>>79499621
Only shit networks do that, also Syfy can't really cancel it.

>>79499610
They messed up mars.
Belters have weird styles, it's there to stress that they have their own distinct culture.
I'd fug Miller desu don't know what you're talking about.
Again they messed up mars.
He's boring in the book too, the other characters are the interesting ones he's really just "the good guy" that's all there is to him.

This seems too minority focused for my taste.

>>79499756
yes, it is, if minority means audience with higher than average IQ

>>79499610

Dude.

The Martians are space Isreal - 9 out of 10 of their intelligence operatives stare at the writing on the wall - the 10th guy dropped the ball.

As for Holden?

They hired the guy who could most look like Jon Snow on their budget. Plain and fucking Simple.

>>79499919
I have no idea what you mean by the martian thing but their lines seem like straight out of the 100 show or vampire diaries or some shit like that.

>>79500012

Okay, gonna fill in the gaps for you.

The Martians are space Israel - so high tech but low population.

Modern Israel uses the Mossad for their intelligence ops - they train 9 out of 10 of their agents to see the "writing on the wall" and act on that - the 10th guy is the one trained to think "fuck that shit" and think of off-the-wall /x/ level shit.

Now imagine that dude dropped the ball and their shitty arse half braindead Marines have been sent in to fix the shit oh Pheobe.

That is basically where Mars stands now - Hence why their crews/dialogues/orders are so fucking stupid

>>79499653
>Syfy can't really cancel it.
Why?

>>79499032
Do we know how much netflix pays for distribution rights? Maybe that call fill in the gap.

>>79500230
Pretty sure syfy is paying to air the show in the US Alcon is the one that's actually funding the show

>>79495595

>his last line wasn't a really long and drawn out..

"I didnnnntt asskkkk forrrr thisssss!" as protomolecule whisked him into the sky.

>>79494794

>anyone before miller, ever.

dawes is a political animal and corrupt to his soul.

Miller was completely right about him.

>>79486758
After getting used to Reddit's shitty, too small interface, I'm gonna have to agree. It's mindblowing to be able to discuss things on the Internet with people who actually want to enjoy things and aren't just trying to be tryhard edgy contrarians 24/7.

>>79500842
Then, why are you still here?
Go home.

>>79478079
so the plotline is

>everyone is infected with the space techno alien aids virus
>and the alien virus makes them see stuff
>or helps them in combat (the reason why that fag pilot couldnt deal with the combat simulation not lining up with his victory)

So the experiment colony is remotely controlling those members? Or perhaps just using them as sensors for intelligence gathering?

>>79500883
Because I don't have fake Internet points to lose by shitposting on here.

>>79500950

which means you don't believe your own bullshit and are a hypocrite but at least you're honest about being a piece of shit and a crossposter.

G-guys is Miller coming back? I can't take this fuck I loved him so much

>>79501204

"hey, kid"

So since they keep repeating in this season how Martian muhreens are 20x better than Earther muhreens, and the OPA doesn't have professional soldiers, have they ever explained who the boarders who wiped the floor with the Martian marines on the Donager were?

The guys with the blue visors and self-healing space suits?

>>79499704

>he's really just "the good guy" that's all there is to him

He's not though, all of his moralfag decisions so far have come from his totally arbitrary self righteous moral compass that only makes sense to him, and has gotten his crew into shit and people killed. He got better this episode though, let's hope he doesn't relapse

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>>79501237

quit posting bookfag spoilers reeee reeeeeeeeeee reee

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>>79501682
I really liked how Holden meets crew from that organization who experiment on kids in book 2 and falls for their ridiculous ruse like the gullible moralfag he is. Nice touch.

>>79501274

They're mercs that corporations bought and upgraded with better tech.

only people that have better tech than mars is corporations that make the shit and sell it to governments.

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>tfw they replaced the badass Martian marine suits with Not!Halo shitty power-suits