They Live is communist propaganda.

*considers it*

*schniff*

>>79477312
t. juden

>>79477312
Considering that it be used from a point of view of whole bunch of different movement I would be more inclined to call it anti-establishment propaganda.

Mako is cheap slut

>>79477472
> THEY LIVE is about yuppies and unrestrained capitalism.
These are words by Carpenter himself. I'm not saying he's a commie, but the film could be used as a movement propaganda piece without any editing.
>>79477452
*hand rubbing intensifies*

>>79477480
YOU TAKE THAT BACK

>>79477885
Mako is expensive slut

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No it's not.

Communists do need to die though.

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>>79477955
> explicitly anti-capitalist, as repeatedly stated by its creator
It might not have been intended as a full-blown Marxist work, but it is deep in the left.

>>79478562
>but it is deep in the left.
Okay kind of.

It sucks ass anyway.

>>79477686
>These are words by Carpenter himself.
I have nothing against intended message but there's a reason /pol/ love the movie. It's ideas can be easily interpreted in different ways. You know, death of the author and all that. Late Ray Bradbury used to claim the Fahrenheit 451 was about the horrors of the internet...

>>79479039
The funny thing is that the closest /pol/ comes to coherence is stealing the left's ideas, concept of class dichotomy in this case, and perverting them to mean something entirely different.
You might as well say of They Live that it's a film about Satanists in the media guiding good Christians away from the American Way — hell, it would make more sense, given how the protagonist's partner is a black man and the resistance place he gets the glasses at is a church — that doesn't mean that this interpretation makes sense or should be considered valid.
> death of the author
More like making the author breathe farts until he dies of asphyxiation, sodomising his corpse, and setting his house on fire with his family inside.

>>79477312
>>traitor detected

you'll be next for a faceful of shotgun

>>79477955
Corporatist swine like you go first

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>>79479324
I pissed myself of fear. Please don't hurt me, o mighty race warrior.

>>79477312
Kys animefaglord

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>>79479348
>he actually thinks another communist revolution will EVER happen

lol you people are raging delusional children

Capitalism relies on infinite growth and resources. It is unviable as an economic model as it will inevitably collapse.

>>79479674
>Capitalism relies on infinite growth and resources.
No, no it does't.
I find it quite hilarious when leftists make this delusional strawman argument.

>as it will inevitably collapse.
no it won't lol

>>79479674
>Capitalism relies on infinite growth and resources.

Unlike Communism, which is predicated on stagnation.

>>79477312
no it's anti-<group of people i don't like that i believe are in power>

>>79479320
I agree with leftist interpretation but at the end of the day the whole glasses thing doesn't imply much more than those fuckers with power are brainwashing us sheep.

>>79479674
>Capitalism relies on infinite growth and resources.
Why do you people keep saying this bullshit without explaining yourselves?

>>79477312
PLEASE TELL ME SOMEONE SAVED THE CARPENTER TWEET WITH THE GLASSES ON AND OFF

>>79479692
> No, no it does't.
I won't be surprised if you actually have a degree in economy, given how Yank economists are taught like preachers rather than researchers, but no, you are wrong. The consumption society is an obvious proof.
> no it won't
Older models of capitalism already did, last time it happened with Reagan, say. Only neoclassicists dispute the claim that capitalism has a finite expiration date, it's simply that it's not necessary that what will come next is a socialist revolution.
>>79479769
Explain to an idiot why is planned obsolescence a thing if capitalism doesn't requite constant growth.

>>79477312
>all anti-corporate propaganda is communist
fuck off

>>79479835
>planned obsolescence
lmao like maybe 5-10% of companies actually try this bullshit and when they do people stop buying their products

It's not a common thing. It's really not a problem.

>>79479869
> denial
Typical.

>>79479835
>given how Yank economists are taught like preachers
LOL
Socialist professors are the ones taught like preachers.

Actual economists rely on evidence and logic.
Marxists rely on insane delusions that have been proven wrong countless times.

>The consumption society is an obvious proof.
The fact that people consume things is proof capitalism relies on infinite growth?
What the fuck are you even saying you fucking retard?

>Older models of capitalism already did
What models?

>last time it happened with Reagan, say.
What the fuck are you talking about?

>Only neoclassicists dispute the claim that capitalism has a finite expiration date
Literally only delusional socialists make the claim that capitalism will somehow magically "collapse" one day.

Even when the next economic collapse happens, the economy will rebound again. It's not like capitalism will somehow just disappear.

You religious fundamentalists are delusional?

>next is a socialist revolution.
AHAHAHHAHA
Dude you people are fucking cultists.
Nobody wants to join your cult.
People see the failures.
I mean lets say another small country somewhere has a socialist revolution. It will fail(as centrally planned economies inevitably do) and it will only cement the idea that socialism doesn't work in the minds of people even more.

Nobody wants socialism.

>>79479962
>no argument
LOL

Do you always act like this when your argument gets destroyed?

>>79479971
> wilful ignorance setting set to max
Waste of time.
>>79479993
No, when my argument gets destroyed I rethink my position and more often than not change my opinion. My response now is the kind I give to people who argue in bad faith.

>>79479835
>it's simply that it's not necessary that what will come next is a socialist revolution.
heh I love socialist wishful thinking

It's inevitable right?
Just like the second coming of jesus.

>>79479971
>Actual economists rely on evidence and logic.

I'm fucking dying here dude.

>>79480037
>No, when my argument gets destroyed I rethink my position and more often than not change my opinion.
Clearly not as you weren't able to refute anything I said.

>>79480051
> reading comprehension
See, it's obvious you're not considering anything I say critically and instead are just looking for an excuse to dismiss my point.
>>79480074
I wasted enough effort in my time refuting global warming conspiracy theories to have any left for this.

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>>79480073
>marxists rely on evidence and logic
lmao

>>79480121
>See, it's obvious you're not considering anything I say critically and instead are just looking for an excuse to dismiss my point.

I'm just making fun of you for being a cultist.
Nothing in culture or society is "inevitable" you religious fundie.

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>>79480073
>marxists rely on evidence and logic

>>79480121
>I wasted enough effort in my time refuting global warming conspiracy theories to have any left for this.
lmao you still have nothing to refute me with

>b-b-buh I don't need to refute you
Yes, yes you do. lol

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>>79480037
>get destroyed by huge wall of text refuting what you're saying
>refuse to even debate

Every single fucking leftist does this I swear to fuck.

Just throw them out of helicopters, there's no reason to argue with them.

Capitalism will collapse when labor becomes automated. The days of the working class are numbered

I don't understand how there is question about the point of "They Live". And it certianly isn't communist propaganda.

Thinking that some of the media, advertisers and the super rich work in cahoots to distract the rest of us in society with silly entertainment while they enrich themselves doesn't make me a commie. It makes me realistic, and of the mind that we need, at a minimum, to be aware that this is going on by putting on the glasses.

Then we need to have a 6 and a half minute long alleyway fight.

>>79480230
>Capitalism will collapse when labor becomes automated.
Some labour is already automated and capitalism hasn't collapsed.

In a free market(with no central banking and naturally deflationary currency) when labour becomes automated it forces prices down for consumer and capital goods.

This makes it extremely easy for anyone to start up a new firm as the price of capital is cheap as fuck.

Because of this, high paying service sector jobs will dominate the economy and working hours will be reduced by a lot.

Capitalism isn't going anywhere kiddo it's only just begun.

>>79480222
Man, I just came into this thread, and clicked back to see how you "destroyed" some guy woith a "wall of text".

First moron, using


four lines
'


of space every time you type


doesn't equal a "wall of text", you fucking idiot. Holy shit, that is stupid.

Second, you didn't destroy anything. You said absolutlely nothing. To be clear, neither did the guy you were responding to, but if I were you I'd cut the celebration dance short kid.

>>79480396
Holy shit boy are you ever mad.

>neither did the guy you were responding to
You mean (You)?

>oy vey goy it's definitely not about jews now let's talk about how capitalism is good

Nice going JIDF.

>>79480161
> projecting
>>79480182
> lol
Don't use smilies and words like "lol", they show your nervousness.
>>79480298
> doesn't make me a commie
It doesn't, but this point is far lefter than the leftest liberals are comfortable with.
> Then we need to have a 6 and a half minute long alleyway fight.
Watched They Live with my mother, she barely managed to sit through that scene.

>>79480473
The jews benefit from government control more than anything.

Why do you think they love the federal reserve so much?

>>79480491
>Don't use smilies and words like "lol", they show your nervousness.
You're panicking.

lol

>>79480491
>projecting
Coming from the guy that believes in "laws of history" and that an autistic socialist revolution in "inevitable".

Enjoy your religion.

>>79480318
Wealth inequality and automation is the death of capitalism. Eventually robots will be able to do everything humans can but better. Capitalism is going to be starving to death in the streets. Socialism will be living wealthier than the greatest trust fund kid without working a day in your life.

>>79480576
>Wealth inequality
Stupidest and most manipulative statistic ever put forth.
It's virtually meaningless.

The amount of money the super rich has is irrelevant.
The working class already consumes 99% of all consumer goods.

The rich can have trillions of more dollars and it wouldn't change the living standards of the working class.
Idiot.

>automation is the death of capitalism.
I already refuting that. Where's your response?

>Eventually robots will be able to do everything humans can but better.
I know, it's going to be awesome, it's going to mean much much lower prices for consumers, much lower working hours and higher living standards for the working class.

>Socialism will be living wealthier than the greatest trust fund kid
lmao then why the fuck were people mostly poverty ridden in every single socialist country on earth?

Refute my automation argument or shut your face you delusional socialist faggot.
Christ you people never shut up even after getting proven wrong.

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>>79480671
Wow, I knew you were fidgety, but I didn't expect you to explode in hysteria.

Someone post the picture of Roddy looking at John's tweet with and without the glasses

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>>79480759
>not an argument
lmao

>>79480815
> arguing with someone so clearly delirious
And I'm even not the lad you're replying to, darling.

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>>79479320

Hitler was a leftist.

>>79481002
I find it even funnier that the only way rightists can make their side of the spectrum not look bad is by fucking around with definitions.
Left and right have always meant pro-LEF (liberty, equality, fraternity) and anti-LEF, respectively, or, put into more neutral terms, pro- and anti-hierarchy. Hitler was firmly pro-hierarchy, and so was Mussolini.

>>79481184
>Left and right have always meant pro-LEF (liberty, equality, fraternity) and anti-LEF
what kinda drugs are you using senpai

>>79481002
>>this is how bad education in Amerikuka is

no wonder capital is fleeing your country

>>79480671
>>Socialism will be living wealthier than the greatest trust fund kid
>>lmao then why the fuck were people mostly poverty ridden in every single socialist country on earth?
>>Refute my automation argument ..


Ah yes. The empoverished socialist hellholes of Sweden.. Norway.. Finland.. Iceland.. Denmark..

High standards of health, education, and measured happiness all. What a nightmare!

Enjoy your thirdworld kukhole Amerifat.

>>79481450
>The empoverished socialist hellholes of Sweden.. Norway.. Finland.. Iceland.. Denmark..

all soon to be islamist shitholes

>dude fedora glasses lol

>>79481477
USA has a higher percent of muslims than Finland.

In addition to having 40% of niggers and spics.

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>>79481450
>Ah yes. The empoverished socialist hellholes of Sweden.. Norway.. Finland.. Iceland.. Denmark..

Jesus christ this is about to get real embarrassing for you.
These places aren't even close to socialist.
If you tell an actual socialist that these countries are socialist they would laugh at you.
They are capitalist countries with strong welfare states.
In fact Sweden and Norway were one of the most capitalist nations for over 100 years until leftists in these countries decided to have welfare states.
ALSO Switzerland is much much better than these countries and it's one of the most capitalist nations on earth. It's far more capitalist than USA is.

I can't fucking BELIEVE people still spew this ridiculous argument.

Just close the tab.

>>79481450
>Iceland
>socialist
Now I know you're trolling.

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>>79481618
> They are capitalist countries with strong welfare states.
Yes, and they are also far to the left of most other capitalist countries. The point stands.
> It's far more capitalist than USA is.
Even talking about the privileges Switzerland offers its citizens in a neutral tone will get you branded a commie in the US.
> Sweden and Norway were one of the most capitalist nations
w e w
Did you know that Sweden attempted a complete transition to socialist economy in the eighties? I know for a fact you didn't, or you wouldn't be spouting nonsense such as this.

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>>79481877
>Yes, and they are also far to the left
LOL So what?
Why does this matter.
They're not SOCIALIST at all.

In fact their governments spend LESS as a % of gdp than the USA does.

>The point stands.
lmao no it doesn't.
ACTUAL legitimate socialists are mocking you right now.
Sweden and Norway are one of the most capitalist countries on earth. Many countries have welfare states. It doesn't make a country "socialist".

>Even talking about the privileges Switzerland offers its citizens
What privileges? They have much less welfare than Scandinavia.
They also have a PRIVATE healthcare system. They're one of the most capitalist nations on earth and have living standards far better than Scandinavia.
Kill yourself you delusional socialist teenager.

>w e w
You're angry at actual facts and you don't know the history of Sweden.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/fa26/06d9e6a3b7da6f7fb40339112728dfc980c2.pdf

>Did you know that Sweden attempted a complete transition to socialist economy in the eighties?
Except they didn't. To the extent they tried, it failed so they went back to the mixed economy they are now.

You couldn't be more delusional. Just close the tab.

>>79480318
You realize the shelf of people controlling the capital gets smaller and smaller with each collapse until its totally unsustainable in either direction right?

>>79481877
>Did you know that Sweden attempted a complete transition to socialist economy in the eighties?
Where the fuck does it say this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Sweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Sweden_(1945%E2%80%9367)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Sweden#Post-war_Sweden:_1945

Oh wait, you're a liar and just pulled it out of your ass.

Its hilarious how /pol/yps criticise things like neoliberalism, globalisation, free trade, etc and attribute those things to communism.
Protip - those are all pro capitalist positions, being opposed to those policies means you're opposed to the likes of Reagan - the fucker that introduced it and the reason this movie was made

>>79481002
Lol, no

>>79481327
Weak as shit. You live in a fantasy.

>>79482122
>You realize the shelf of people controlling the capital gets smaller and smaller
No it doesn't.

There's actually far far more capitalists today than there ever were in the 1800s.

Also economic collapses aren't a natural part of capitalism.
They're the result of central banking and government manipulation.

>>79479039
Death of the author is post modernism
Post modernism is a liberal ideology
Make up your fucking mind

>>79482179
>neoliberalism, globalisation, free trade
I'm from /pol/ and I don't think most of these things are bad.

I think socialists are a cancer on humanity and commit the masses to poverty. It doesn't matter if they're on the left or the right.
Cancer is cancer.

>the fucker that introduced it
LMAO he didn't introduce anything
in fact most of the policies he advocated he didn't even implement.
Do you know he raised taxes and raised regulations?
Do you honestly believe everything is so shit right now thanks to Reagan, while completely ignoring the federal reserve and nixon closing the gold window in 1970?

Why do you base your entire worldview based on a leftist strawman argument.

>>79480134
>>79480163
>t. Someone who has never read an economics book
Guess how neoliberalism that your daddy is dismantling came about? Fucking economic think tanks

>>79482255
>dude neoliberalism is a real thing and not a leftist strawman argument
>I heard it on bill maher

How does it feel to be a useful idiot that advocates for your own poverty and enslavement?


>an economics book
das kapital is not an economics book, it's a religious text

>>79479703
>which is predicated on stagnation.

Stagnation is fine, that's what you conservatives want anyway.

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>>79482301
>das kapital is not an economics book, it's a religious text

And we all know which god you worship

>>79482261

The top image is pretty sad too

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>>79482261

>>79482374
>And we all know which god you worship
>le illuminati eye
Everyone knows marxism was rothschild illuminati shit.
He was the son of a rabbi.

>>79482261
Communism has been tried hundreds of times, it hasn't been implemented.

>Capitalism
I thought it was "corporatism not capitalism" like PJW types preach on and on again

>>79482418
Stupid fucking image.

Is Switzerland a "plutocracy".
I'd rather live in Switzerland than fucking GREECE.

Fuck "social democracy".
Fuck democracy in general actually.

>>79481618
>These places aren't even close to socialist.

But they are in the context of this argument. It's that kind of socialism that you're trying to keep out of America, for some reason.

>>79482422

I'm talking about the almighty dollar you dumb Americunt

>>79482450
yeah too bad you can't just climb over a fence into switzerland, ramirez

>>79482250
Nixons policies were a response to the inevitable collapse of the bretton woods system. As economies grow, more goods are available (i.e white goods, cars, phones, etc) this means people want higher wages so they can buy things. You don't want to increase wages? Then who is going to buy things. You do increase wages? Your profits fall.
Post WW2 saw economies explode and the international keynesian system encouraged restraint until inflation or unemployment went up, in which case you spend in order to encourage economic activity. When the contradictions of growth met with high unemployment AND high inflation, this system fell apart.
Reagans polices- and by the way, reducing spendingand taxes is neoliberal rhetoric, not reality, we just call that libertarianism - saw big businesses and economic growth recover... But by clawing back the welfare state, having a policy of reducing inflation over reducing unemployment, privatising government assets and deregulating the labour market, the average persons life hit a wall. Economic growth doesn't mean jack shit if only CEOs are making big bucks. This has continued to this very day and is why Trump was able to win - no one trusts the government that has repeatedly fucked them with these bullshit policies
The thing is, it is impossible with the social and economic changes of the past 50 years (technology that has increased global interactivity, technology that has made many jobs redundant, equal pay, population increases, increased centralisation into cities etc) to go back to a pre neoliberal era, all that can be done is either keep pursing this system or as Trump is doing, do a shit job fighting it, and see the system collapse - OR establish a completely different system that can actually offer real meritocracy and equality of opportunity.
Or you can just keep pretending to be an expert on econonic history from what you've read on /pol/.

>>79482461
>But they are in the context of this argument.
They aren't in the context of this arguement.
We were talking about socialist countries.
Capitalist countries with welfare states are not socialist countries even if you call them socialist.
Man you people are pretty stupid.

>It's that kind of socialism that you're trying to keep out of America, for some reason.
Because it's a complete fucking failure.
Sweden would be far better if they cut taxes, spending and privatized their healthcare system. Like based SWITZERLAND.
You're just angry that switzerland disproves your argument.

>>79482488
I don't worship money, I just think it's pretty cool desu

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>>79482551
>defending closing the gold window
>defending keynesian economics
>defending the federal reserve
How big of a cuck can you possibly be?

>>79482301
I've never watched Bill Maher in my life. Neoliberalism was taught to me at university years before any of this Trump/Clinton nonsense.

>>79482582
had this thread open for three hours waiting for someone to post it so that i can finally save it t b h

>>79482576
>gold standard
>realistic im the 21st century
Lmao
And learn the difference between cause and corellation dipshit.
>implying i support keynesianism or the federal reserve
Also consider learning reading comprehension you fucking troglodyte

>>79482594
>Neoliberalism was taught to me at university

Universities are a bastion of socialist thought.
Why do universities constantly produce socialists?

also neoliberalism isn't even a real thing, it's a socialist buzzword.
Just stop.

>>79482640
Universities are full of liberals.
And no, they are not the same thing. They'll get the bullet too.

>>79482636
>>gold standard
>>realistic im the 21st century
We should end central banks entirely and let society decide which system to use.

We don't necessarily need a gold standard, but a system of sound money and free banking.

>And learn the difference between cause and corellation dipshit.
umad? :^)

>>79482674
>not striving for a moneyless society
Ancap pls go

>>79482673
>They'll get the bullet too.
lmao I love these socialist children that pretend there's going to be a socialist revolution one day
It's the same as saying "oh boy you sinners are going to pay when the second coming of jesus happens"

you brainwashed wastes of life don't even have guns

real americans would kill you instantly lol

>>79482693
>doesn't realize money originally emerged from voluntary human interaction
>doesn't understand the economic calculation problem

How dumb can you possibly be for wanting to get rid of money?

>>79482704
>socialists
>not owning guns
Now look whose delusional. Admittedly liberals will be easier than you classcucks, but then again there are far less of you.

>>79482732
>what is dialectic materialism
Lol dude feudalism came about voluntarily, why would we get rid of it

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>>79482704
>don't even have guns
They have guns, or at least are open to possessing firearms, they just don't have the numbers.

>m-muh guns

it isn't 1800 anymore you fat fucks, americans are honestly fucking retarded

>>79482756
>Now look whose delusional.
LMAO but you DON'T have guns.
All you can do is beat up garbage cans in the streets. The ones that actually have guns are an extremely small minority.

>classcucks
LOL Oh my fuck, it's so cute. You actually think the bourgeoisie are exploiting you and you will somehow magically benefit from taking over the means of production. lmao

You ACTUALLY think there's going to be a socialist revolution.
LMAO

>>79482624
Sorry I took so long

>>79482778
>>what is dialectic materialism
Complete pseudoscience.

Are there actually people that still believe in delusional things like "laws of history" and the idea that all human behavior is the result of economic forces?

How fucking unscientific.

>>79482787
The vast majority of them don't have guns.
Also the total population of all marxists is extremely small.
There's no chance their ideology will ever rise again.

>>79482778
>Lol dude feudalism came about voluntarily
It literally didn't. It was the result of state action granting extremely large amounts of land to a small number of people and basically giving them the right to enslave others.

America never had feudalism because they had a free market land policy and in the american midwest they literally had an anarcho-capitalist land system with polycentric law and claims associations.

>>79482956
>implying im an anarkiddie
Lmao
>>79482996
>people live in complete vacuums where their physical conditions have no impact on their lives
I'm done, there's no point wasting my time on someone who actually believes this

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>>79482756
>mfw a 12 year old LARPING marxist-leninist

>>79483071
>>implying im an anarkiddie
Oh wait, so your numbers are even LOWER than I thought.

holy shit you actually think anyone is going to support your little revolution
ahahahahahahaha

Your ideology is extremely flawed and failed countless times. You people don't even accept human evolution or instincts lmao

how does it feel to be a religious cultist?
I bet you're a maoist too lmao

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>>79483071
>>people live in complete vacuums where their physical conditions have no impact on their lives
Nobody ever said this.
Why do marxist children strawman everything when people point out the flaws in their outdated belief system?

Countless things effect human behavior genetic factors, instincts, environmental factors, the fucking weather, and yes, the economic system they're in. The economic system isn't even the driving factor of human behavior and to claim so would be ridiculous.

Please explain how all human behavior is the result of economic forces?

Why do you people still exist?
You also believe you can socially engineer people to the point the state will wither away. How dumb is this shit, come on.

Bill Maher is the most shameless propagandist on TV, constantly pressing into the minds of people the boundaries of political arguments, this is left this is right, this argument is crazy whilst this argument is common sense. The entire goal of his show is to say, this idea is ok and this one isn't, and all of the debate on the show is a farce because it has to be within this artificial frame set by him and his team.

>>79482450
> Fuck democracy in general actually.
These are, in the end, the only words that rightists mean when they say them. Denying the obvious, manipulation of statistics, outright lies, all of this does nothing but put a fig leaf over rightists' ultimate motivation to live by others' suffering.

>>79483804
>the only words that rightists mean when they say them
Of course.
Democracy is an extremely authoritarian ideology. Democracy is what killed socrates.

I have no idea why leftists worship such a shitty brutal and sociopathic system.
Democracy should be strongly limited.
I support a republic that has constitutional ban on leftist and authoritarian political parties.

>>79482026
> they tried, it failed
It didn't fail. The prime minister who was the driving force behind the attempt died, and the decision makers inside the party decided to make a choice that was of more personal benefit to themselves.
>>79482168
Ask a Swede about it, they'll tell you.
> you're a liar
I find it funny how rightists quickly jump to outright accusations like this. Never mind how many times has /pol/ been caught red-handed lying through their teeth, of course the only ones to put the blame on are their opponents.
>>79483867
> Democracy is an extremely authoritarian ideology
This is some next level doublethink.

>>79482964
God bless anon

>>79483891
>This is some next level doublethink.
Lol when 51% of the population votes to enslave you, that's not authoritarian?

You're fucking delusional.

>>79483891
>Ask a Swede
So there's no information or data anywhere about this and your answer is "ask a Swede"
LOL

>Never mind how many times has /pol/ been caught red-handed lying through their teeth
When? lol

>>79484000
> democracy is authoritarian
> oligarchy isn't
I'd argue if you were an anarkiddie, but you're far stupider.
>>79484021
> lol
> lol
> i'm totally not nervous, lol

>>79477686
That's after ''they'' gave him '''the talk'''

>>79484349
>> oligarchy isn't
When the fuck did I say I was in favor of oligarchy?
You leftists can't even argue.

>but you're far stupider.
Lol it seems you probably have legitimate down's syndrome seeing as you were unable to respond to any of the posts I made an hour ago

Must suck to have a delusional religious ideology.

>when you realise capitalism and communism is same shit different name

>>79484349
>> lol
>> lol
>> i'm totally not nervous, lol

>his entire argument is "I don't need actual evidence just ask someone else"

LOL

>libertarians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs

>>79484485
Who's a libertarian ITT?
Nobody was even talking about this shit.
Kill yourself.
Also Gary Johnson is a hypocrite cuck.

>>79484513
Someone up here equated capitalism with free markets, talked about end the fed and gold standard. Was it you?

Anyway I couldn't help myself, I can't take any thread seriously when a libertarian's in the house.

>>79484581
>Someone up here equated capitalism with free markets, talked about end the fed and gold standard. Was it you?
Of course that was me.
I'm not a libertarian though and I don't support the libertarian party. I don't even advocate going back to the gold standard.
Do you have autism?

>Anyway I couldn't help myself, I can't take any thread seriously when a libertarian's in the house
Are you the same faggot that had his arguments demolished and couldn't respond?
lel

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Why the fuck this /pol/ feel the need to spread their dogshit across this entire site?

>>79484618
>arguments demolished

are you 12?

>>79484646
Politics has become more and more intertwined in popular culture over the past 10 or so years. This is just the result.

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>>79484663
>being this angry you gave up and couldn't respond to any of the arguments
are you 8?

>>79484708
it has always been like this, you just got on the new memefad.
everything is politics

>anything that critisizes capitalism is communist propaganda
/tv/ sure is stupid.

>>79484732
>it has always been like this
Not to this extent, no.

Anime is GAY

>>79484724
>smug anime girl

embarassing

Socialism is shit. It's wrong. And gay. No really it promotes lazy ass stupid behavior

Why get an education and/or a job of the government will baby you enough to live ? And with people thinking striving for better is evil, commie cucks would love living in a average house eating shitty good taking the money off workers

And no asshats. It's not the fucking Saros and Rockerfellas the money's from. It's any buisness. Because commie cucks will put the bar so damn low anyone making 40k a year will be considered too wealthy.

Want to see a joke cucks the wealthy evil 1$ won't get hurt. Thier money's safe . Meanwhile the Indian 711 owner or the nice couple running a diner are getting taxed up the dick while Shitbag care forces small buisness to pay for health insurance

Congrats. The 1% stay 1%. You kill the middle class. You kill any reason to work. Become better. Fuck. Why live if you have no purpose. .

Bonus question. After Communism failed and failed again. How many more failures and deaths until Antifa fags admit they are children trying to run the household?

>>79481002
Don't engage zombies. You'll just turn into one.

>>79484816
>Why get an education and/or a job of the government will baby you enough to live ?
Because they wont give you that stuff unless you have a job? The communist motto is "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

>Congrats. The 1% stay 1%. You kill the middle class. You kill any reason to work. Become better. Fuck. Why live if you have no purpose. .
There are no classes in communism, there is no "1%". You dont kill the reason to work, you still need to work in order for the government to provide for you. The idea is to abolish wageslavery so people they can maintain a comfy living without working 40 hours a week at a dead shithole that you hate.

Have you ever opened a book? Im not even a communist, but god damn those are some of the worst arguments Ive ever seen

>>79484816

BTW don't say "man work is evil man. Love and smoke pot all day"

No animal , fuck no plant on Earth is lazy like that. OR without purpose. Ants work thier entire life and have more creation than most Commie cunts

Working and striving for power is what gave you your phone. Laptop. Medicine. Cars. Games. Satellites. Airplanes. Boats.

If humans were commie lazy Marxists from the start we would have died. No notable structures would be built. No scientific discoveries. Early man would be trying to make 5% work to feed 95% doing nothing. Until the 5% stopped working


In what reality is taking money from those who do good, and giving it to 20-40 year old lazy but totally able bodied lazy shits. OK?

I mean who has to work? Again the super 1% don't work. They won't. They have money in banks everhshere. You won't touch them. But you're totally happy with ruining small buisness and workers.

You probably still think Bernie "fuck your small biz. Go out of Biz you cunt" Sanders is a nice man:)

>>79484898
>There are no classes in communism
It's impossible wishful thinking that failed every single time.

>>79484913
My god I dont know whether to slap you with some memes about slave morality or pure ideaology. Theres just too much idiocy to address in one post

>>79484913
You think human motivation would die just because theres no profit incentive? You dont believe people innovate and create for any reason besides profit?

>>79485057
>pure ideaology
lol zizek is a pseudointellectual cuck.

Aren't you the same faggot that couldn't respond to the criticisms of marxism I made?

Marxism is so fucking stupid, it's a religion like scientology.

>>79480298
>Thinking that some of the media, advertisers and the super rich work in cahoots to distract the rest of us in society with silly entertainment while they enrich themselves doesn't make me a commie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Society_of_the_Spectacle

>>79486111
>Marxist critical theory
Wow, sounds intelligent and scientificul!!

>>79486429
where's your book, classcuck?

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>>79486490
>he's still posting after getting rekt eariler
lmao

>classcuck
Oh my fuck, it's so cute. You actually think the bourgeoisie are exploiting you and you will somehow magically benefit from taking over the means of production. lmao
You actually think if you create the most authoritarian state ever the state can socially engineer the new socialist man, and that the state will magically "wither away".

If you had even the slightest critical thinking skills you would understand that this is horseshit., but you don't. There's something genetically wrong with you people that makes you think unbelievably stupid.

Just kill yourself already.

>>79486761
my first comment ITT was the link to the book

again : where's your ideology's theory on the subject?

the gommies are the only ones who have actually written about it AFAIK

>>79486836
>my first comment ITT
Yeah because you're not the same marxist turd that used the term "classcuck" earlier in the thread.

>again : where's your ideology's theory on the subject?
>the gommies are the only ones who have actually written about it AFAIK
It's such a common and simple thing, everybody knows the media does this bullshit.
You don't even need to write a book about it.
Marxism is filled with so much pseudoscience and bullshit, it's unreal.

>>79484454
> When the fuck did I say I was in favor of oligarchy?
You aren't an anarchist, you spoke out against both democracy and autocracy, so by process of elimination you could only be a proponent of oligarchy, which is also the only possible state for a republic that isn't a democracy.

>>79486981
>You aren't an anarchist, you spoke out against both democracy and autocracy, so by process of elimination you could only be a proponent of oligarchy
hehe
You're wrong though.
I support a democratic republic with extreme limits on democracy. All leftist and authoritarian political parties should be constitutionally banned.

>which is also the only possible state for a republic that isn't a democracy.
I support democracy, just an extremely limited form of democracy.

>>79486918
it's a common term on /leftypol/, there's more than one of us on /tv/. I wasn't even on the internet back when those comments were posted

>You don't even need to write a book about it.

this is what amerobesities literally believe

>>79487013
> I support a democratic republic with extreme limits on democracy.
So you're a proponent of oligarchy.
> All leftist and authoritarian political parties should be constitutionally banned.
So the working class, along with lower middle class, both of which are overwhelmingly leftist, get no representation. That's textbook oligarchy.

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>>79487048
>it's a common term on /leftypol/
lol then fucking go back there

We don't want delusional marxist teenage cucks on this board.

>there's more than one of us on /tv/
nah lol, it's just you

>this is what amerobesities literally believe
>hey guys I wrote dianetics, where's YOUR book on space aliens affecting human personalities

People don't need to write books on irrelevant nonsense topics.

>>79487088
>So you're a proponent of oligarchy.
No.
I'm sorry you are unable to read.
But that's fine, stay delusional.

>So the working class
>muh working class baaawww

>both of which are overwhelmingly leftist
No they're not lol.

>get no representation
Of course they do.
Everyone gets to vote and speak their mind.
You just cannot vote for leftist political parties.

>>79487090
> lol then fucking go back there
There's no /leftypol/ infestation on this site, whereas /pol/ has its shit smeared all over every thread of every board. You really don't get to tell others to go back where they came from, you degenerate parasite.
And no, I hate /leftypol/ and wish they would fuck off, but only after /pol/.
> teenage
You keep using the word so much, projection is the only possibility I see. How old are you, m8?
> nah lol, it's just you
Now I know for a fact that you're one of those idiots who still think that saying "but I don't visit /pol/" could possibly fool anyone.

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>>79487138
I get a strong feeling I'm speaking with an actual teenager. Are you even in high school yet?

>>79487147
>There's no /leftypol/ infestation on this site
and there shouldn't be.
Go back there.

>whereas /pol/ has its shit smeared all over every thread of every board.
You seem upset.

>you degenerate parasite.
You're probably a socialist and you're saying this.

>You keep using the word so much
Because it defines socialists perfectly. Hit a little too close to home, huh?

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>>79487172
>da working and middle classes are super leftist, trust me

Are you 8 years old, come on just admit it.
It's typical for pre-teens to get mad and spam whenever they've been proven wrong.

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>>79487090
I've been on imageboards since 2010, why don't you fuck off back to redit kiddo

communalism and democratic confederalism OK not keynes and hayek praise zizek