/pol/kino? """Documentary"""

Of course this for some reason doesn't trigger any of you, but a trailer saying "blackface is bad" is race baiting garbage

>Jewish fairy tales
We're still on this?

Damn I thought this was going to be a different kind of thread. Empire of Dust seems to be up /pol/'s alley and imo it's worth watching either way.

About your post honestly who gives a shit, that's for one. Second: we both know lefty propaganda is far more existent and reaching. It's literally everywhere. Whereas those shitty Christian and military propaganda movies are not that common or frequent and they always get made fun of.

>>79466262
Have you ever actually researched what Jesus had to say about the Pharisees?

>>79466285
>we both know lefty propaganda is far more existent and reaching.
Oh here we go with this false equivalence autism. Please, enlighten me.

>>79466285
The President's appointments are't funding "lefty" films with companies that take tax dollars from you. You sound deluded as all fuck

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>>79466285
>Whereas those shitty Christian and military propaganda movies are not that common
I can't imagine being this dumb

>>79466479
Are you blind? You can't watch or read anything these days without stumbling on some insane cringeworthy blatant propaganda.

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>>79466556
>I JUST KNOW, LIKE...DUH??? LOOK AROUND YOU!
>((((argument))))
Let me guess, is it part of the cultural marxist takeover? Perhaps, dare I say, a genocide?

>>79466533
How? I'm not basing my judgment on any data just the fact I always come across liberal bullshit on movies/shows whereas this doesn't as often happen with the other side of political spectrum. Not even close.

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>>79466638
>I come across all this liberal bullshit
Yes? Like...?
>this doesn't as often happen with the other side of political spectrum. Not even close.
Probably because you agree with their propaganda to begin with. Otherwise, you are delusionally out of touch.

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>>79466638
>this doesn't as often happen with the other side of political spectrum. Not even close.
>just pretend it doesn't happen guys! Last 8 years were a meme
>I type in my FEMA death camp, poisoned by chemtrails and flouride

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>>79466634
>>79466676
>media is dominated by the right!
>better yet, the ALT right!

Okay

>>79466757
Not sure what you're trying to say.

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>>79466760
>highest rated and most watched outlets are conservative
>conservatives win more elections
>conservatives run both House and Senate
>conservatives on average, have been a political majority in Senate and House longer than their opponents
>WTF WE ARE SO OPPRESSED
Or:
>DAY OF THE ROPE WE ARE THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE

fucking pick one you mongoloid. Are you poor victims or not?

>>79466818
That if you think it doesn't happen then you are delusional

>>79466880
That if don't think what happens?

>>79466842
>all this nonsense

If you don't think the msm has a liberal bias, you're trolling.

>>79466988
That both of the extreme ends of the political spectrum peddle propaganda but just because some facts are left-leaning, it doesn't make liberals peddlers of propaganda. Climate change is the biggest example I can think of. It is a literally a fact that is argued as a piece of "leftist propaganda"

>>79467209
>ignoring the point
>w-what about a left leaning news outlet? Checkmate MAGA!
Whataboutism is for underage faggots

>>79465562
stfu nigger

>>79466285
What is Noah, Son of God, American Sniper, 13 hours, gods not dead, zero dark 30, act of valor, lone survivor, soul surfer, risen, heaven is for real.
Those are just off the top of my head.

>>79467227
>That both of the extreme ends of the political spectrum peddle propaganda
True and no one said otherwise. But which one makes it to your supposedly propaganda-free media? Which one exists in more quantity? Which one has respected news channels and newspapers as an outlet and which one has 4chan?
>it doesn't make liberals peddlers of propaganda.
Well maybe not every single person. But liberals have no shame with their politics and they will push it on everyone if they could. The last few years have showcased this to everyone. It's a broad term "liberal" I realize that but I'm talking about a specific kind of people and those people are all over every kind of media.

>>79467417
>Those are just off the top of my head.
No that's you scraping the bottom of the barrel.

>>79467501
>bottom of the barrel
Those are all from last year

>>79467436
>But liberals have no shame with their politics and they will push it on everyone if they could.
>Thinking conservatives are too morally righteous to do exactly this
ahhhh its good to see another /pol/ gets butthurt thread

>>79467209
The most watched news outlet is FOX

>>79467573
It's 2017

>>79467436
You are just saying a whole lot of fluff

>>79467436
>why yes, both parties are at fault
>BUT LIBERALS...
every fucking time.

>>79467501
Anon, i was only going on recent films, i would gladly cite known examples but i think we both know youre being willfully ignorant.
Lets ditch this true scottsman fallacy, shall we.
I cant remember the last time i saw a mainstream film which embraced nihilism or even absurdism. Im sure im forgetting something obvious but lets dispense with the notion that right leaning propeganda films are uncommon

>>79467417
>what is Noah
That was directed by an atheist and a lot of christians were offended by it.

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I watched this one, it has Alex Jones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUwmlnN9nis

>>79465562

Why is blackface bad though?

How does some chad smearing brown paint on his face for a private party affect you in any way?

>>79467436
Again, a good chunk of facts keep getting bashed as "liberal propaganda".

Why does it take this long in a first world society, to get people to understand Evolution? Do you think that has nothing to do with conservatives and their much more organized and funded propaganda machine?

Liberals make movies you don't like...

>>79467803
>this autist again

>>79466506

Mnuchin has a word for you, he literally funded Batman v Superman Dawn of /kino/

>thread about any sort of political topic
>libshits are ALREADY in full damage-control mode, posting half-baked illogical shitposts that have no real argument, along with stock reaction-images

This has been the status quo for weeks now.

do you guys ever get tired of talking about politics on /tv/?

i assume it's the same handful of people in every thread here.

>>79467842

>if you ask questions about my agenda, you are an "autist"

Or how about you defend you shit-tier ideology when questioned if you want people to take it seriously?

>>79466676

>You see, the media is FULL of evil Alt-Right propaganda.

It amazes me that in this day and age, with how fucking hard the media has swung left recently, that there are people that can be this delusional?

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>>79467907
>not supporting blackface
>is a shit-tier ideology
Right

>>79467934
>literally never said this
It's like you want to hear whatever you want to

>>79466285

>we both know lefty propaganda is far more existent and reaching. It's literally everywhere. Whereas those shitty Christian and military propaganda movies are not that common or frequent and they always get made fun of.

This.

Literally every winter-season the theaters are full of shit-tier Oscar bait meant to pander to liberals.

Just this last month we literally had a "gun-control thriller".

>Its a /tv/ doesnt understand that all movies are intended to sell you something
it could be a product it could be an ideology, most times its both.

>>79467936

Getting triggered over brown paint is a shit-tier ideology.

If you're going to get all pissy about it, expect to defend your ideology when people question you about it.

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>>79467883
>thread trying to criticize the double standard that /pol/fags use with Dear White People
>HAR HAR LOOK AT THIS DAMAGE CONTROL BTFO
Tell me how much you fought the power when you deleted your Netflix account?

>>79467742
They're far less common than the left leaning
>>79467732
That's the whole point isn't it. Both extremes are there, but which one is more present and influential? I say the left one.
>>79467815
>two completely different subjects
The evolution/creation controversy is not due "conservative organized and funded propaganda machine" and it's much bigger than that.

>>79468026
>I live in a society where I have to defend why I find black face distasteful
How did we get this bad?

>>79468032
So why didn't you make the thread on /pol/?

>>79468048
>The evolution/creation controversy is not due "conservative organized and funded propaganda machine"
Yes, it is. Holy shit you live in your own echo chamber

>>79468048
Your argument is just "no, liberals!"

>>79468032

>thread trying to criticize the double standard that /pol/fags use with Dear White People

The movie Torchbearer isn't a race-baiting attack on blacks.

>>79466842
>any MSM outlet
>"""""""""conservative"""""""""""

>>79468048
>They're far less common
so then make a movie anon, quit bitching there arent enough films made to match your political ideology
this is the same retarded arguement made by those not enough nigger films or nigger noms at the oscars. sick to death of hearing it

>>79467801
>scene of baby-boomer unironically saying to 'pull up your bootstraps'

jesus fucking christ

>>79468076

>I live in a society where I have to have beliefs founded on logic and reason and not emotion.

Yes, you do. Horrifying for a libshit, I know, but yes, if you're going to preach about how rational and decent you are, your beliefs have to be rational and not based on knee-jerk emotions.

>>79468105
So religion doesn't play a factor?

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>>79467990
>literally 100 years of film pandering to to you
>now a handful of films that portray blacks as people
>WHAT THE FUCK LOOK AT THIS LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS HOLY SHIT
I'm sorry that the ten movies with minorities in them trigger you so much

>>79468105

>STOP TELLING ME MY PARANOID ATHISHIT DELUSIONS ARE INCORRECT!!!!

No.

>>79468201
I wasn't bitching, I'm not the one who made this massively butthurt thread. I don't even like those movies you accuse me of liking just because I said they're less common and annoying.

>>79468181
FOX

Coupled with the modern trend of less people just agreeing with your spectrum. You can't seem to handle that

>>79468231

Why is it every single politics thread has the same SJW posting irrational strawman attacks, with the SAME Reddit reaction-images?

>>79468214
Religion is an organaized lobbyist group that helps these people get votes. So no, it is a mixture of scientific illiteracy and money.

>>79468155
I am comparing the attitudes to these films and how we have a real example of reactionary propaganda that is beyond a harmless Netflix show and peddles all sorts of propaganda and none of you seem to get the irony in this thread.

This is quite literally what real propaganda looks like

>>79468240
Prove I am incorrect

>>79468284
>religion is conservative propaganda

How can you reach this level of retarded?

>>79468270
>it is a strawman if I disagree
You faggots refuse to deal in facts, so what tools are left?

Easily my favorite part about the dear white ppl /pol/ debacle was that they called for it banned.
these faggots will tout themselves as free speech advocates right up to the moment they see something they disagree with
literally college student tier faggotry

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''It's okay when we do it!''

>>79468382
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Organized Christian-Right is a massive lobby that is appealed to by nearly every conservative party in the country. Why support a science that jeopardizes the voting block you appeal to? Who do you realistically think is fronting such an organized attack on evolutionary science? Science? Liberals? Who? Fucking christ, they base entire legislation around Christian sensibilities

Are you pretending to be retarded?

>>79468400

It's a strawman because your posts are blatant non-sequiturs.

They also make it very, very clear that you're an angry Redditor Bern-Victim or a Tumblr-kin.

>>79468412
Poe's Law is making it difficult to understand what your point is

>>79468525
So many buzzwords, kiddo.

>>79467417
>ppl. still don't get american sniper
kek kek

>>79468490
Religion existed for a very long time and some religious beliefs have problems with evolution. That's a major factor that has nothing to do with political parties. Imo it seems to be the biggest factor and it will be a thing regardless of any possible propaganda by the conservatives or anyone else.

>>79468763
So you blatantly miss the point. Are you American? I feel like you don't get this point because you aren't from here. No offense. This just seems like a point difficult to explain unless you live it

>getting triggered that nobody's triggered by a movie that nobody's heard of

>>79468252
Fox is the definition of cuckservative

>>79467417

>Noah
A retarded cash-in where atheists secularized the Bible into a fucking Transformers movie.

>Son of God
You realize biographies about Jesus are as old as film, right?

>American Sniper
Literally a story about a damaged sniper that Liberals somehow construe as "propaganda" because it doesn't contain a scene of American soldiers eating Iraqi children and masturbating to barrels of oil.

>13 hours
Literally just a story of soldiers trapped behind enemy lines.

>gods not dead
Shitty movie that triggers athishits because they don't want to admit that many college professors are angry evangelical atheists.

>zero dark 30
Was literally Obama-Administration Porn.

>act of valor
A war movie.

>lone survivor
A war movie.

>soul surfer
A movie about a surfer that gets attacked by a shark and religion is mentioned at some point.

>risen
Literally never even heard of it.

>heaven is for real
Literally a documentary reporting someone's supposed experiences. This has been a thing in television for literal decades.

So this is what counts as "Right Wing propaganda", to you? That's a pretty loose, weak definition. You seem to just be mad at anything where American armed forces are featured, but aren't seen raping 30 innocent Iraqui womyn.

Meanwhile that's all you can name in the past 7 or 8 years.
We've had more Liberal propaganda movies in THIS SINGLE YEAR than that.

>>79467612

>ahhhh its good to see another /pol/ gets butthurt thread

Look at the OP and say that phrase again.

>>79467417
>lone survivor
have you even seen this movie you stupid fucking cunt?

>>79468924
>no true scotsman
>Fox doesnt count as a conservative outlet
Fucking what?

>>79468961
OP here, I'm not butthurt just because you want me to be. Nice and convenient way to not engage the conversation though, buckaroonie

>>79468860
You seem to be in a world of your own. Really now, you think the conservative are the reason why some religious people have problems with some of the claims and implications made by this theory? That or the actual faith those people follow which again completely contradicts with evolution?

You're saying it's not that, you're saying it's mostly due to the propaganda by the "conservative propaganda machine". It's false. You're then saying that the fact evolution is facing problem from people is proof that this machine is not only alive and well, but also the prominent force in media. Again, you're wrong.

>>79468934
This is the first cuckservative post in this thread that doesn't sit on a poorly written logical fallacy and that defends its point of view. What are some counter-examples of liberal propagandist movies? Is it more of the theory that a small group of shadowy liberal elite moviemakers, billionaires and other gatekeepers shoehorn small and gradually more progressive ideas into movies to normalize the previously taboo? Because I don't find that to be convincing so much as an observation of how culture changes, wrapped up in a conspiracy theory.

However I just wanted to respond and say that I respected your post.

>>79469157
I'm literally not wrong and you are absolutley missing the point or willfully ignorant

>>79469288
You're wrong. Tunnel vision at its finest. The fact that you made "being from here" a requirement to understand your shitty point doesn't help you either.

Why are lefties so delusional?

>>79469372
You are outright denying that the American Right lobbies with/for the interests of organized conservative Christian groups? And that this in NO WAY effects legislation and science? Is this what you are arguing? Is this your stance?

>>79465497
the holocaust is a hoax niggers are inferior but you can blow this shit out your ass xD

>>79469376
decades long marxist brainwash

>>79469429
>anon thinks the cultural marxist meme is a valid argument
Right

>>79469458
actually, you were the one to put the word cultural before marxist, not me. I wasn't even referring to it.

>>79468934
>literally hundreds of pro-military right-leaning "KEEP MURICA SAFE MEMBER 9/11" films that are in part, funded by the military PR groups.
>this isn't propaganda
>but a film about why black face is bad is
What sort of bullshit do you have to stomach to get this delusional?

>>79468934
I never called them right wing propaganda that was the anon I replied to.
He said that films with a right wing slant specifically films which depict christian and pro military ideologies favorably are uncommon. I cited a number of examples to show that is untrue.
>>79468973
>>79468712
I never called American Sniper military propaganda. theres ambiguities for sure, but overall I think we can all agree it depicts the military in a positive light. yall niggas project too much.

For the most part I think its safe to say that in general movies take a positive stance on spirituality, christian or otherwise. I asked for anons to give examples of mainstream films which promote rejection of spirituality, i.e. nihilism or absurdism.
>inb4 fedora
I'm not saying spirituality is bad Im just identifying the norm

>>79469476
Well it's all autistic and unfounded. Why you let this occupy space in your brain is beyond me

>>79469545
Lone Survivor is not American Sniper, it's also not Christian or military propaganda you tool.

>>79469189
To expand on what I mean by "that's how culture changes":

1) a new generation is, for the most part, more open to new things, e.g. openly gay people living together, women not having babies by age 20, not throwing your trash on the side of the road when you drive along.

2) most celebrities don't care because they're too rich. A few adopt causes because they have ennui, or white guilt, or a personal connection to some particular issue. An even smaller percentage actively seek out new causes to attention whore.

3) Spurred by prompting from YouTube channels and their own desire to make an impact in the developing world despite having no technical skills, a subset of young people cotton on to an issue and become slacktivists capable of liking Facebook posts but not developing multidimensional opinions of their own. A few vote with their feet by going outside and becoming one of those fucking annoying pamphleteers on city corners. Most unintentionally vote with their time and/or money. The aforementioned attention whore celebrities maneuver to stay abreast of this human wave.

4) An even richer class of people who create media and got there by watching the zeitgeist cotton on to the fact that if Brad Pitt has a funny black friend in the next shoot-em-up, it will make more money. After a few tentative attempts that are mostly mixed or unsuccessful, something makes a box office hit, and becomes normal because popular things are normative.

5) the free market takes effect. When something in Hollywood works, it gets reused more than your mom on Frat Row. Movies incorporate the new selling feature and it becomes more normal with every successful film, kino, or flick. TV follows suit because TV has to be more universally palatable to make money, so it's usually less experimental.

>>79469532
Your first points are spot the fuck on, but lets not drag dear white ppl into this, thats projecting and it helps nobody

>>79469660
I mention that because of the ten or twelve triggered Dear White People threads

>>79469423
I didn't say that. But you really should focus on the part that relates to msm bias. It's all I ever talked about as it's the point of this thread.

Why wouldn't they lobby for the interests of their voters? Should they somehow not do that? Is the other party not doing that? Legalization and science? You're getting way off track.

Show me the biased media, Prove to me the problems people have with evolution is due to that media. Prove how the political parties are behind that media and then prove how any of this proves that msm as a whole is skewed to the right and not the left.

>>79469532
>>literally hundreds of pro-military right-leaning "KEEP MURICA SAFE MEMBER 9/11" films that are in part, funded by the military PR groups

I doubt you can even name 10.

>>79469596
sorry anon, been drinking. Never saw it, not my kinda film, will concede that point to you.
Without going into the 80's which is easymode (reagan you dog) black hawk down, we were soldiers, saving private ryan, hurt locke, valkyrie, enemy at the gates. I could go on ad-nauseum
for sure there are tons of war films which are also critical of the military Im merely pointing out that these films are common af, lets not deny that for the sake of political points.
>you tool
thats unnessary you pinky faggot milkshitter

>>79469835
I don't think you know what propaganda is.

I also don't know why you're acting like a fucking retard and naming films you've never even watched.

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>>79469690
>Why wouldn't they lobby for the interests of their voters? Should they somehow not do that?
Not at the expense of burying scientific facts or in an attempt to de-legitimize the scientific community, which is what they are doing. They have organized a real party-line effort do discredit scientific facts. Their battle against climate change is one such example.
>You're getting way off track.
I think you are genuinely autistic and aren't following this conversation.
>Show me the biased media
The constant attack from the GOP to defund science, to defund NASA, to silence climate change data, to discredit scientific consensuses, to publicly front a party attack against green energy in favor of Big Oil and Gas, trying to take Evolution out of schools and textbooks. Seriously, you either are baiting me or you haven't been paying attention to conservatives over the last 50 years.
>Prove to me the problems people have with evolution is due to that media
How about the fact that most opposition is just parroting strawmen arguments they found on Fox or whatever conservative pundit they get their bullshit from? Half of the people against the science, don't even understand it.
>Prove how the political parties are behind that media
Is this...is this a joke question?
>and then prove how any of this proves that msm as a whole is skewed to the right and not the left
So again, I ask...are you from this country? Have you lived here for the last 10 years at least?

Holy shit. This amount of blatant delusion is hard to grasp. You just asked me if the media has a political bias...

anon...

>>79469896
>I don't think you know what propaganda is.
Different anon here, you clearly don't. Since you think that there is literally no Right-Wing propaganda. This must makes you stupid.

>>79469189
Selma, 12 Years a Slave, Lincoln, Precious, Money Monster, Spotlight, The Revenant, that one Obama movie, Straight Outta Compton

There are probably more but I don't watch too many movies. Liberals love self-congratulating movies, marginalizing minorities and revising history. Soldier Blue is one that absolutely confounded me, but this sort of thing has been going on since the seventies.

>>79469987
>Since you think that there is literally no Right-Wing propaganda
Making shit up now? Cool.

>>79469657
[Cont]

6) a minority of young people with conservative views, a minority of young people alienated by extreme ignorance or stupidity among activists, and old people form a coalition. These people do not like the new normal. They remember, or have heard about and subsequently romanticized, a time in living memory when culture was different and the free market made it that way. They correctly observe a cultural shift and make the inference that it was caused by a force external to normal, societal forces. They observe, also correctly, that an elite group of tastemakers are behind each of the movies that make them angry about how things are changing. They make the further conclusion that these people are responsible for a deliberate and coordinated attempt to change what the world used to be into something else.

7) this is a "culture war". People angry or afraid about the new normal fight it by creating what they incorrectly perceive as "equivalent propaganda", which is why we have such shitty Christian movies these days compared to kinos like Ben-Hur. Activists and the people who came to identify with them before the activists started revealing their power level, fight back by standing up for the free market progression of normalcy as if it WERE a deliberate campaign to legitimate marriage with your dog.

8) The war enters the political arena. Slimy people like Hillary do not help by conjuring a Nixonian aura of secrecy and machination. Blunt people like Trump emerge as a counterpoint to everything that is overprocessed, experimental, focus-grouped, amorphous, opportunistic, and done behind closed doors - things which are blamed on the left trying to usher in the Revolution, when they are really just Hollywood trying to make money.

tl;dr people change their attitudes, companies see a new niche, the market readjusts, some people get left behind, they get angry and blame it on the wrong sources.

>>79469697
what is every film made during the raegan administration.
9/11 is still a touchy subject, you really didnt see movies made about a war until roughly 20 years after the fact. hence the sudden influx in the last 5 years.
>>79469896
I dont think you understand subtlety, propaganda doesnt function like it did in the 40's its more nuanced. just because you ignore it doesnt mean the ideology isnt there. dig deeper
>acting like a fucking retard and naming films you've never even watched.
because its proving my point and you're getting triggered.

Why are conservatives so goddamn retarded?

>>79470067
Propaganda exists nowadays to reinforce preexisting beliefs and ideas, yet most of the so called right wing military propaganda movies you name are either critical or attempt to stay objective about war, the military, the beliefs/actions of those in it and the enemy they are fighting.

Why do you think I'm triggered by you being a stupid fuck?

>>79467990
You know I was gonna argue against OP till I saw this dumb shit.

His whole point is that this is a government funded FAKE documentary made to push their agenda. It is a movies made of lies that claims to be a documentary pushed by the government.

And yet "lefty oscar bait is just the same" no it fucking isn't. Even "based on a true story" or biopic shit is still positioned as a movie. That "gun-control thriller" is just that, a thriller.

Now I'm not against propoganda existing, but if you actually think some pro-jew nazi drama is the same as the government producing and writing a fake documentary that's supposed to be taken as real, then you're a fucking moron.

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>>79470100
Because they are convinced that their liberal boogeyman is the bane of existence so that they don't have to objectively look at how legitimately regressive the American Right has been since day 1. But even as I type this, I know I'm going to get all sorts of (you)s saying "it's both the same!!!", in an attempt to build a false equivalence and shift blame.

The facts are that the first world is left-leaning and progressive and traditionalism (by its own fucking nature) demands that you stagnate beliefs to an autistic degree, even in the face of new evidence. Conservatives are regressive traditionalists. They can frame their bullshit anyway they see fit, it doesn't change the nature of their political spectrum. They will literally ALWAYS be at odds with opposing parties until their own party breaks off or dies.

Now with a slight pendulum shift in government, they think this is some grand resurgence of conservative values, despite their beliefs becoming less and less popular with the majority of Americans and despite progressive platforms receiving overwhelming support over conservative ones. Main problem is that conservatives have a tight grip on the old money in Washington and win elections. So there is this illusion that they represent the people or the changing attitudes of the people.

Now the last dead horse to kick is to construct an equivalent boogeyman, the "libruhs" so that we all end up fighting each other and nothing changes on the political map.

They are objectively regressives. Nothing more. The parties are not the same.

>>79470264
>You know I was gonna argue against OP
Why were you going to argue with me? I'm not wrong.
>Now I'm not against propoganda existing
Why...? By the way, "progaganda" isn't just anything with a political message, you realize this right?

>>79469930
>How about the fact that most opposition is just parroting strawmen arguments they found on Fox or whatever conservative pundit they get their bullshit from? Half of the people against the science, don't even understand it.
Not true and not good enough.
>Is this...is this a joke question?
It's the central point. Being a creationist and conservative are two different things. You're saying creationism and all its related media is just republican propaganda. It's not the case.
>So again, I ask...are you from this country? Have you lived here for the last 10 years at least?
What's your point? Surely you can express it regardless of people's whereabouts.
>You just asked me if the media has a political bias...
I asked you if it has rightwing political bias more than leftwing, not if it has a bias at all. Again, it's the point of the whole thread.

>>79470287
How does one become this deluded? You aren't even remotely correct.

>>79470209
anon, propaganda is a sorce of culture which slants towards a single ideology. Literally everything is propaganda, it isn't just a derogatory term for everything you dislike. you should also do your research before accusing me of not understanding something. Its okay to be wrong anon.


>Why do you think I'm triggered by you being a stupid fuck?
you're resorting to name calling, board culture or no, it's kinda pathetic.

>>79470346
>Not true and not good enough.
So your entire argument is "nuh-uh"?

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>>79470371
It may sound deluded to you because you already agree with it. Conservatives are regressive. It's really difficult to argue against this point, given the party's overall history (which I'm sure you are willing to rewrite)

One party organizes a constant front against science.

The other has people crying on twitter and making movies with blacks.

You bought into this false equivalence because now that there is this media wheel of delusion from both sides, all sorts of facts are getting buried into this cloud of extremist political bullshit. The political ideologies are not the same. You only think that because you are fed all these delusional concessions.

>>79470380
you really have no idea what you're talking about.

>Very frequently propaganda is described as a manipulation for the purpose of changing idea or opinions of making individuals 'believe' some idea or fact, and finally of making them adhere to some doctrine—all matters of the mind. It tries to convince, to bring about a decision, to create a firm adherence to some truth. This is a completely wrong line of thinking: to view propaganda as still being what it was in 1850 is to cling to an obsolete concept of man and of the means to influence him; it is to condemn oneself to understand nothing about propaganda. The aim of modern propaganda is no longer to modify ideas, but to provoke action. It is no longer to change adherence to a doctrine, but to make the individual cling irrationally to a process of action. It is no longer to transform an opinion but to arouse an active and mythical belief

I'm calling you a fucking retard, because you're a fucking retard who believes you're much smarter than you are.

>>79470371
It's not remotely correct that the first world is considered liberal? Really now? Do tell how the first world agrees with literally any major conservative political stance?

>>79470371
>t. delusional conservative

>>79470383
There's plenty of criticism for evolution theory with varying degrees. It's a subject widely debated even within the scientific community. How is this "opposition" just parroting Fox news? And how is all of this related to the bias of the media?

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>>79470567
>There's plenty of criticism for evolution theory with varying degrees
No, there really isn't. I don't know what convinced you of this.
>It's a subject widely debated even within the scientific community.
Nope, genetics put the final nail in the coffin for you faggots. There is unanimous consensus that evolution is indeed a thing that happens.
>How is this "opposition" just parroting Fox news?
Because Fox is the most organized effort against evolution marketed as "news".
>And how is all of this related to the bias of the media?
May as well just ask me why water is wet. Holy shit.

>>79470467
>>79470509
>>79470560
It's funny that you pretend to be outside the influence of modern political sensationalism and side-taking while assuming anyone right of SJW is a conservative who thinks sodomy should be illegal or whatever nonsense you've conjured in your mind from occasionally going on /pol/

>>79470493
>he actually cited ellul
ok, anon. Im good, theres really no point in arguing with you, I know where this is going Have a nice life.

For the record I dont think youre a retard anon, I just think youre wrong.

>>79470705
This whole gymnastic
Not really an argument. I am talking specifically about the organized American Right conservative parties. I'm not talking about extremists, SJW or whatever meme you want me to strawman.

conservative parties are regressive.

>>79470760
Nice to see you still taking the high ground without a leg to stand on and then abruptly stop responding to pretend you won the internet argument

>>79470371
Is there an argument here?

>>79470769
>I am talking specifically about the organized American Right conservative parties
hm, great backtracking.

>>79470906
I don't think you know what backtracking is? These are literally the only people I have been talking about you dense fuck.

>>79470935
>no true scotsman
Yes, Fox is considered a conservative news outlet. These arguments get dumber and dumber.

>>79470639
>Because Fox is the most organized effort against evolution marketed as "news".
So Fox singlehandedly destroyed evolution in people minds? Had it not been for this channel people would've embraced that scientific enlightenment? Maybe religion, which existed for thousands of years plays a role in this and not this propaganda machine.

Your original assumption is wrong. Everything you've built on it is wrong as well.

>>79470933
Which people though? Sounds like you just made a (false) blanket statement.

>>79471144
The American Right, the organized conservative parties (of which there are only like three major ones), the GOP...

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>>79465497
Pure kino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHs2coAzLJ8

>>79471114
>It is literally both.
One existed for thousands of years. As old as man. An essential component to human society and mentality. The other is a news channel among hundreds that's competing with everything else on TV and can be avoided with a press of a button on your remote.

Opposition to evolution existed before the masses could read. FOX isn't the reason evolution is meeting resistance from the people. Overplaying its role doesn't prove that it has a tight grip on reality and it doesn't prove that the msm as a whole is right leaning.

>>79471473
You are missing the point

>>79465497
>produced by stephen k. bannon

you really cant make this shit up

>>79471931
What a time to be alive.

>>79471473
Fuck you are delusional as shit.

>>79471473
I can't believe I just read you guys' entire argument. But yeah, you're fucking dumb, anon.

>>79472620
>>79472949
Heh. Either way you still haven't provided any argument as to how the media is biased to the conservative side of things.

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>>79473248
>Either way you still haven't provided any argument as to how the media is biased to the conservative side of things.
Sure, bud. Whatever you say.

I'm seriously curious, do you believe in evolution?

>>79473288
Why do you keep going about it? How did it become the main point for you?

Let me guess, you'd rather have me say I don't "believe" in evolution so I can become one of "them" where it makes sense for you. You already tried this with the "you have to be in american for the last 10 years at least." shit.

>>79473499
I honestly was just curious if you believe in evolution or not. Also, my comment about if you lived in this country was pertinent to the fact that the minutia of American politics may be missed by someone outside...looking in.

The fact that you don't seem to understand the organized conservative effort to silence or discredit science is alarmingly ignorant, buddy.

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>>79468934
>You realize biographies about Jesus are as old as film, right?
>biographies