>tfw I didn't go to movies, I went to film school

Do Americans really bring their laptop to lectures, isn't it overkill? All you need is a pen and some paper to take notes.

>>79446881
yeah but nobody pays attention in lecture

>>79446768
Please tell me they were forced to use those "machines".

>>79446881

Yeah but they can't browse facebook with just pen and paper.

>>79446881
american students are the dumbest people on the planet

>>79446768
>apple

Wow, lots of jewcock swallowing went on in that room.

Why all the apple computers?

They are over priced for what they do and surely there is no fashion statement to be made when EVERYONE has one. Coming in with something alternative and then autistically boasting about its superior specs and how Apple Man was a huge unlikable faggot might actually make you the cool guy.

>>79446881

The majority of kids on laptops during lecture aren't even following the professor. In my classes at least half of the people on laptops are either or social media or doing work for other classes.

>>79446768

>All those macs


Gee, i wonder why they are americucks

>>79446881
Sometimes when the jew bitch teacher required me to bring the latest edition of the 300 dollar textbook to class I'll pirate the last edition of the ebook and bring my laptop to class because fuck jews and fuck professors who contribute to the textbook system. Most of the time we never needed it in class. Fuck college. my fucking boomer dad payed for my tuition before I was even born. I know I shouldn't complain but I would have rather been a plumber or electrician I can't deal with these constant deadlines.

>>79446881
Depends on the subject, some really help to have a laptop with. I always brought mine to my project management class since I wrote copious notes, just paragraphs and paragraphs every lecture and my hands would cramp if I did it by hand while it's effortless on a computer. And of course any computer programming or CAD course would be better with a laptop. For anything math heavy though it's a bit dumb.

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>>79447027
>paragraphs of notes
doin it wrong

>>79446900
You get one free every time you enroll for some bullshit class. This way you get at least something out of it.

>>79446768
its like this in canada too. just a room full of macbooks

>>79446938
>film school
at least they're getting used to it

>not recording the entire audio of the lecture and playing it back later on so you don't rely on doodled notes

>>79446881
yeah but how I am supposed to watch the kid in front of me watch pro League of Legends on his giant ass gaming Asus with glowing red everywhere?

>>79447081
I started doing this during exam reviews and my grades went up from c average student to solid b student

>>79446938
>>79446979
>>79447013
macbooks are god tier.
PC manufacturers have VERY recently nearly reached 80% in manufacturing quality. I've seen laptop after laptop fail in the time my faithful 8 year old macbook pushed on and was still running photoshop and illustrator while watching videos. I only updated because i wanted to. The trackpad has never been matched and the lack of any bothersome elements in the OS make it god tier in terms of distraction-less and glitchless operating. After all of that I STILL have windows installed for various non-compatible programs.

>>79447081
Yeah but then you have to listen to the lecture twice. My shit professors can't even fill out the hour class period with enough relevant information so they just ramble about stupid shit mostly.

>>79447081
>implying all professors let you do audio recordings
>implying that's not a waste of time as most of that lecture isn't worth listening to twice
>implying taking good notes during class isn't far more time efficient for studying
>implying that won't make visual segments more or less pointless

>>79447054

Depends on the class.

While I was taking English and Psychology requirements for my campus (every one has to pass these courses to graduate regardless of major) I remember filling up an entire 1 subject notebook nearly full during a semester.

I agree that endless paragraphs wouldn't the best thing for chem or math courses. Hell I'm predominantly writing chemical structures during my organic chem class.

>not just sleeping through class instead of wasting time on facebook

>>79447149
Are you a woman? Every heard of a thinkpad? It cost a third the price of a macbook and it doesn't feel like garbage.

I've got a 2000 word essay on Fantasy due this Friday ... what Fantasy film should I write about /tv/?

>>79446938
well, they are americans

>>79447256
You should probably write a 20 word letter of resignation because that sounds like a waste of time, money, and effort.

>>79446768

>paying 2-3k for a laptop that has less functionality than its $600 windows counterpart

>>79446979
Tbh it's still an "American" brand. I'd buy it if i was American and was heavily discounted as it is for students.
Then install windows botnet.
Voila, a great machine

>>79446930
Tell that to all the Africans who still live in huts.

>>79446881
you fucking retard... do you know how much more efficient notes are on a computer? ctrl f is a great tool, so are documents with different level headings you can view in word and make a contents for

it's not even close how much better you're off using your computer

if you write your notes then transcribe them into pc you're just adding an extra layer of effort that's a waste of time

>>79447158
but what if you
>record the audio
>and take good notes
ik, strange idea

>>79447256
Why don't you drop out and study something that will actually aid you in getting an income you moron?

>>79446979
I need to use 3dsmax for a job and im fucking pissed off that i own a macbook. overpriced useless trash.

>>79447374
tell that to zods snapped neck

>>79446979
>>79446768
Think different

>>79447149
>dell inspiron doesn't feel like a mac book
Macs have horrible quality control, child labor, and are extremely way over priced for their hardware.
It's not really a debatable topic unless someone's an Apple fanatic.

>>79447400
>if you write your notes then transcribe them into pc you're just adding an extra layer of effort that's a waste of time
assuming you wrote notes in paper why would you transcribe them to PC?, you are just saying random shit to make it seem harder

>>79447675
so you can ctrl + f

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Isn't the point of writing notes to plant the idea firmly into your memory? The physical act and the need to transcribe in your own words makes learning the topic easier. Maybe handwriting notes -then typing them up- would be the best for actually getting the most out of your stupidly expensive university experience.

>>79446881
It's the norm in 1st world country anon.

>>79447917
Everyone's different, there's no hard and fast rule. Whatever works for the person works for the person.

>tfw too smart to learn

>>79446979
Macbooks are the best laptops.
It has nice built in features that helps you type fast as shit.

>>79447439

Film school isn't about becoming a director there are shitloads of jobs in the media industry and a good program will teach you at least the basics of most of them

>>79447917
>Isn't the point of writing notes to plant the idea firmly into your memory?

Actually I think there's no difference between typing and writing when it comes to note taking and memory. The reason why those who typed did shittier in the study is that they kept using their laptops to look up shit and distract themselves from the lecture. Despite looking up things related to the material, the kind of "switching" the brain does from listening to researching just distracts it and impedes learning.

>>79446900
>>79446938
>>79446979
>>79447013

As someone who had had to work a job where I fixed people's laptops and listened to them bitch and moan about how awful their computers perform when they have web browser toolbars 10 deep and somehow manage to fill their computers up with malware and bullshit I am extremely grateful for apple computers. They are the computer equivalent of bowling with the bumpers on and I recommend them for anyone who isn't interested in putting in just a basic amount of effort to learn their computers systems and how to keep them running.

They are overpriced, but they are simple to use, reasonably well made, have direct support from Apple, and they aren't as easy to load up with malware by clicking on everything online as your average windows computer.

I have a dell myself, but I know wtf I'm doing, I would never in a million years let my parents use something other than an apple.

>>79447107
does this actually happen?

university in the vast majority of cases is a fucking scam that will load you down in debt

i did 2 years of CS and then split to get a real job because all you need is a portfolio rather than a piece of paper

>>79448209
gaming laptops are pretty popular yeah

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>>79446768
LOL STUPID BITCH HAHAHAHHA

what even is the point in lectures anymore?

10 years ago the entire lecture was available on the intranet after the lecture.

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>>79446768
>mfw their marketing campaign was "think different"

>>79448232
>tfw too smart to pick a meme degree

Law and medicine will always make university necessary

Everything else you could learn from wikipedia pages

>>79448284
2 things;

1. it's a meme to make students think they're getting something out of it; and
2. it justifies the wages of the lecturer/tutor/guy who turns on the projector/any other person

>>79447107
kek. i have that. sorry bro

>>79448284
At my uni, which is quite good to be fair, the lecturers don't just read shit from the lecture slides. They tend to actually go in-depth on the subject
Although, having said that, a lot of my lecturers don't even have lecture slides and instead just ramble on for an hour or two and hope they've said something of worth

>>79447327
>I never used a Mac before
Ok m8.

>actually saying a Windows laptop is better than a Mac simply because of specs
youve never used a Mac. Believe me I was same. Fact is, Windows laptops are clunky as fuck to type or use a trackpad.
Top it all off, Windows laptops are now getting more gimmicky than Mac with this stupid touchscreen crap as well
>let me just move my laptop
NOPE. Just closed the window you had open.

>>79448284
Because of that ONE tech illiterate bitch that doesn't put anything online.

>>79446881
Writing notes on physical paper is objectively better for memorization than typing on a laptop. People who use their laptops for notetaking are morons. Most people who bring their laptops are just doing something else and not actually paying attention.

>>79446768
why the fuck does it have to be a mac? these are adults, but they're still acting like middle-schoolers who need the newest shoes to fit in. what makes me sad is that there are probably a dozen of students who couldn't afford it, or even their tuition but bought one anyway so as to not be looks at weird.

i hate the world

>>79448284
That's like asking what's the need for shrinks when you can get mental health help online.

The physical person, and the structure to keep you disciplined, are what's important.

>>79446768
repeat after me

we are all individuals

we are all special snowflakes

we are all unique

>>79448877
I refuse to believe anyone is this stupid or incompetent.

>>79446881
Wow, look at this troglodyte over here.

>>79449489
>NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
nice argument, moron

>>79448877

Holy shit are you that technologically inept?

>>79446768
is that Alexis Crystal / Anouk sitting in top picture first row middle?

>>79449335
>He needs daddy to keep him disciplined

What a good employee you're learning to be goy

>>79446881
I use pen and notebook most of the time

>>79449700
Not everyone is an amazing rugged individualist self-made pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps wildly successful billionaire with everything figured out like you, anon.

>>79449739
I'm just a millionaire, so you're wrong.

But yes being able to work by yourself and motivate yourself is a skill that would serve most people well.

>>79448189
screencapping this because it's the best explanation for why I appreciate macs too.

>>79447374
atleast they could build a mudhut. not so sure about typical American students.

>>79449223
>Writing notes on physical paper is objectively better for memorization than typing on a laptop
Depends on the person, so no it's not objective.
I spend more time actually listening when typing and memorize better.

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>>79449299
>who need the newest shoes to fit in
lmao
My 2011 Macbook works just fine and is anything but new.

>>79446881

in a full lecture theater there are like 3 people who are actually taking notes on the laptop. most people are sitting there with their laptop on their lap while scrolling facebook on their phone

>>79451050
I love dipshits in my course cause it means I'm going to look better without doing any extra work.

If you're not actively rooting for their failure you should

>>79446768
oh it shows

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>>79446768
What the fuck is this madmans problem?

>>79448189

> tfw work the Apple support line.

It's actually pretty good, everything that isn't fixed by turning it on and off is fixed by restoring to factory or going into the store.

I literally just play my 3ds all day. WAHOO!

>>79452733
Pure chad move right there. Hes at college for one thing and one thing only. Poon.

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Poor Mizzou couldnt afford a laptop

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>>79447081
Most of my lectures are not dumb cunts repeating the powerpoint presentation.

>Dropped out of college
>Cashed in Tuition
>Spent it all on videogames and Iran-Iraq war surplus

Who /LivingTheDream/ here?

>>79447017
Plumbers and Electricians probably have deadlines aswell anon.

>>79452916
>tfw too intelligent to take notes

>>79453039
>tfw too smart to learn material that wont be tested and is thus irrelevant

I actually used to take my tablet or computer to class and realized I didn't use it at all and that it was only distracting me.

Now I just take pen and notebook. But my handwriting is fucking crap so that part sucks.

>>79447256
Comedic fantasy and how it's truly terrible

You know like "Your Highness".

>>79453497
My uni kept trying to push iPads as some revolutionary device in learning kek

Faggot students trying to touch type notes while staring down at the table was pretty funny

I just use it for tinder snapchat and instagram while i take a shit

Who are these people that actually use Apple computers?

I've never met one.

>>79451050
if that's the case what's the point of attending said class anyways? they just waste time by being there

>>79453745
me neither but I'm european

>>79453839
ive been to 2 unis that actually counted the roll for lectures

so retarded

10% grade for attendance too

or pass/fail if you missed more than 20% of classes without reason

>>79453921
can't their friends that actually care sign for them though? seems like reasonable solution

>>79454015
i did that but i dont really trust people not to fuck my life up by making a mistake so i only did it once

putting a fail grade in the hands of some 20 year old retard isnt wise

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>not bringing your desktop to class

Plebs

>>79447160

I double-majored in Psychology and Neuroscience and minored in English, so I can say on good authority that you're doing it way the fuck wrong. Using Word to take notes in size 10 Calibri, single-spaced, my Psych classes were 2-3 pages per section; my Neuro/Bio classes were 3-10 per; my English classes were essentially non-existent since it's mostly an exercise in intuition along with the occasional arcane factoid.

>>79453102
Yeah, but they don't give a fuck really.

>>79449662
>alexis crystal

that bitch has a fat ass

>>79449785
>I'm just a millionaire
>lying on the internet for the pettiest of ego boosts

viper.png

>>79446979
>acting superior to people because of your computer skillzwill make you cool
oh, honey

>>79454211
>he doesnt have a rich family

im so sorry for you

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>>79446768

>>79454235

i don't need sympathy from a lying dweeb

>>79454270
haha

>noone has money
>certainly noone with money would brag about it anonymously

>>79448236
Although they shouldn't be, they're gimmicky garbage.

>>79454257
This has to be a joke

>>79454292

you'd be a fool to believe anything anyone says here, especially when it's a fat fuck like yourself trying to brag about his rich parents on the shittiest board

>noone

private school hasn't helped your grammar, eh?

>>79446768
This picture makes me cringe.

>>79446881
I'm Australian and I took a laptop into lectures when I was studying.

>>79454056
that's where the word _friend_ comes into play

>>79451009
"No"

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>>79446768
>All those macs

I am gonna vomit

>>79454318
nah i use spellcheck because i'm not a poorfag

you know only retards get all finicky about grammar right? cause they don't have anything of substance to say so they focus on arbitrary rules

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>>79454308

>>79454350
lad friends arent infallible. they just expect to be forgiven when they drop the ball. dont listen to me though, wait for someone who you consider a friend to prove theyre not perfect to you

>>79454405
>spellcheck
>nooone

lol, damn dude, you're legitimately dumb as fuck

>>79454257
Is that a normal overhead projector is did someone actually make one specifically for projecting laptops? Either way they're going to be amazed when they find the video out port.

>>79454435
im smarter than you and better at communicating
your life is a joke, your skill set of finding grammar errors was made redundant by a computer squiggle 20 years ago

>>79454558

lol if you say so champ

>>79454591
anyone who nitpicks at grammar is at best a blogger and at worse unemployed NEET cunt on disability cause her ovaries have cysts

go and attack trumps twitter breh, fight the power the only way you know how

ill be making 6 figures sitting in an office writing eloquent prose of the gods

>>79454558
>be a millionaire
>get anally buttblasted on an anonymous anime board so hard you start to cry

Jesus dude

>>79454637

trying way too hard, my man. it just makes that lack of intelligence all the more obvious

>>79454647
>if you dont let a moron talk shit, they win

nah cuck, despite what your parents told you thats not the way to go through life

>>79454658
youre so good at reading things you should take that analytical mind and go and play the share market, catch up to the rich kids :^)

>>79446768
Some colleges have started giving out free laptops for enrolling.

>>79454674

duly noted

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>not bringing a quill and a unique ink for every subject

>>79454674
>i'm 12 and edgy

>>79446930

then why are the top 10 schools in the WORLD all in america?

>>79454810
>then why are the top 10 schools in the WORLD all in america?


what is Oxford?
what is Cambridge?

>brother recently jumped from pc/android to macshit after years of trashing them
>also voted hillary
What do I do when my own flesh and blood is becoming an insufferable faggot? Bullying him about it isn't working like it did when he was a fatass and I bullied him into getting /fit/.

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>>79454392
>he says while using wangblows

>>79446881
I'm in the UK and pretty much everyone except for me uses a mac during lectures. I want one, 2bh, but poorfag

>>79454899
>uses android
>thinks he has the right to call something shit

kek my dude
Also Trump is a mac user.

>>79454682
Sell it and buy a real computer.

>>79454899
Give your brother a brojob.

That will teach him.

>>79454810
rankings are based on published articles, which tells you nothing of teaching quality

literally a meme

>>79454936
Trump is a 70 year old billionaire. He doesn't know/care about technology. As long as he can tweet he's happy. He uses an iphone cause apple products are made specifically for technological illiterates like women and old people.

>>79454899
>brother recently jumped from pc/android to macshit after years of trashing them

Typical.
Poorfags always trash macs until they get to try it.

>>79446881
Taking notes on a laptop is faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a8XddPXV5o

>>79454743
>that girl towards the side laughing

>>79446979
Journalism school at University of MIssouri is a big shill for apple

>>79446768
Holy shit, Apple must be happy.
Is that a requirement, you have to have a macbook?

>>79446768
Imagine you bring out Razer's 4K triple screen Project Valkyrie.

>>79446881
>tfw too poor for laptop so I HAVE to write with a pen and paper.

It gets pretty fucking exhausting.

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>tfw Macbook pro, notebook running Linux Mint, PC on Win 7 and Iphone 7

>>79454135
You're fucking dumb, and have probably never had a real job.

I'm also in film school. UNC School of the Arts.

It's actually extremely enlightening and the idea of one day writing and/or directing my own film is amazing.

AMA about film school

>>79455894
why dont you use the money for school to produce a portfolio and drop out because youre being scammed?

theres very little to learn when filmmaking, you can learn it from online articles or books but even better trial and error

>>79455464
Not of you do all your readings and take noted the night before, that way you only have to jot notes down if the speaker says something not already covered in the books. Saves a lot of time and you can concentrate on the lecture much better.

>>79447400
>an extra layer of effort that's a waste of time
it's called learning

>>79446768
The only reason film still sell is cause of complete morons that can't figure out torrents.

So go to school to make completely retarded movies for tards that can't download and don't even have a friend that can.

>tfw film school will be like art college in 10 years and the only job you'll get is at MCDs
Kids are editing and directing all sorts of material on youtube for free and after a few more years software for editing movies will be cheaper and more user friendly and you fuckers pay a lot of money to do what these 10-15 year olds are doing whit no courses or anything.

>>79455997
>i tell you how to do something
>you write it down
>then you type up what you wrote

your way of learning sucks dick... just listen the first time

>>79455943
I agree that there's only so much you can learn from film school, and that most of what you gain is intuition to benefit the talent you already have. You can't teach a talent for film.

However, I have learned a huge amount of what goes into making a film, as well as gained hands-on experience. Also, at least here, the school funds your film for each year (1st year is two 3-minute scenes, 2nd year is 7-minute short, 3rd is 10, 4th is 15), and the budgets are pretty generous to say the least.

The connections made are also invaluable. I am surrounded by a community of people, any one of which could get work and then recommend me.

>>79448321
It's ironic how thinking different naturally leads to the status quo. Just like the hippies in the 60's. Now you have to literally explain to these people their ideals are not cool and hip anymore.

>>79455089
>cause apple products are made specifically for technological illiterates like women and old people

Are you gonna tell that to the developers of every single top notch tech company in the world who use a macbook?

>>79446881

We had to use ours in upper level accounting for Excel and risk analysis models. Otherwise I'd use pen and paper. I tried using a laptop for notes freshman year, just didn't feel write. I can type mindlessly, while writing requires me to actually be engaged, I imagine it's the same way for most people.

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>>79453039
>famous actress
>worth literal millions
>still feels oppressed

>>79446768
weird how Apple's slogan was Think Different

>>79456040
you fund the film... the school takes your funds and lets you use equipment they have

the tens of thousands you're spending could be used to shoot a feature film that gets you a real job

when you graduate you're going to have exactly the same portfolio as your peers, the only difference will be if someone wins an award for one of their shorts

how are you going to get ahead when you're all the same?

consider that maybe, just maybe, film school is a business with a sole objective to turn a profit for its stakeholders, and after learning the basics you can go out into the big scary world yourself

Who
>Geology
Here

Enjoy your meme degrees plebs

>>79456133
I've considered this, but as of right now I feel I have more to learn, or at least hone. I'm only in my first year.

>>79456133
Also, I think the statistic is that 90% of students here get some type of job in the industry right out of college. Maybe not that high, but somewhere around there.

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>Buy a cheap HP laptop
>Terrible screen
>Colours aren't right and can't get them to feel right whatever I do
>Build quality is terrible - feels cheap.
>Secretly covetous of all of the macbooks I'm surrounded with on campus.

What do?

>>79456149
I have geology in my biology class you fucking plen

>>79456197
gonna need a citation

>>79454877
meme schools

>>79456219
buy an ASUS?

>>79456040
>The connections made are also invaluable. I am surrounded by a community of people, any one of which could get work and then recommend me.
this is the biggest reason to go to film school.

your career is made by your connections. I have none so I'm starting from scratch. reading books and articles and watching youtube videos are cheaper than film school, but being around people with the same interests is a real motivator and you'll get work and credits much easier and faster.

wish I had the money to go to film school. USC wants you to make a short film anyway just to get it. nigger if I could do that then I wouldn't need the school. fucking film school, man./

>>79456219
get a macbook then.
the airs are pretty good these days. shame about the lack of ports.

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Why do Americans buy apple products? inferior hardware and sofware that costs considerably more than the competition

>>79456219

who is this delectable sperm worm?

>>79456268

Because they're the only ones that can afford them

>>79456268
>inferior hardware and sofware

post a laptop with better OS and trackpad than a macbook

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>>79446768

>the black people don't have a laptop at all

>>79456268
Because ingrained patriotism in a country proudly divided and is basically a melting pot of every culture on earth.

>>79456268
Because Americans have money silly europoor

>>79456268

>Apple
>inferior software

>>79456244
It really is like being in a mini-industry for 4 years.

>>79456268

I bet you think a Mac is the same a non Mac just with one less button for the mouse and a different OS. There are significant differences in the hardware that make it better suited for various tasks.

>>79456268
agreed. though the reason I got my air is becasue I needed a small full functioning laptop that had a good screen to take with me on a trip.

those ultra slim dell's and MS laptops were overpriced ironically enough.

though these days I'd get a Surface or XPS 13.

>>79456291
Anyone with a job can afford one.
Plus it lasts very long, you're set for a decade with one.

>>79448877
>le windows is clunky meme
So you fell for Apple advertising?
Just because it's sleek and white doesn't mean it runs better

>>79456268
>inferior hardware and sofware
well meme'd
t. euro

>tfw I majored in RTVF for like a month before realizing what a horrible decision I was making and changed to and STEM degree

Feels like and dodged bullet. My friend got a degree in film from a good university like 3 to 4 years ago and she's done absolutely nothing with it and works at the same bar that I do on the weekends
>>79446881
Most of the students I see with laptops just use it to dick around and not pay attention to the lecture, pathetic

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>>79456268

here's my complementary (You)

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>>79456329
>Classmate has an iphone and I have a galaxy
>We take turns recording the classes because I'm not fucking deleting my porn and music to make space
>Her fucking recorder app stopped midclass because someone called her
>Gazillion dollar company that cant make an automatic call rejection feature like android's recorder
>It was the most fucking important class of neurophisiology
Watch it Steve Jobs.

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This whole thread's discussion has had absolutely NOTHING to do with television or film.

Not even a single mention of the director who made OP's quote.

This board is garbage.

Went into a computer shop the other day and listened to a girl and her dad talk about how she needed a brand new apple laptop for her uni course.
She then said the uni doesnt even give her the programe she needed and has to shell out another 200 bongs
Hoe can they get away with this

>>79456411

>recording class

why the fuck would you record a class that you're sitting in?

just listen, understand and take notes you dumb fuck

>>79446881
Typing is objectively faster than writing and less exhaustive

>>79456434
I'm guessing you never went to medschool, the professor is not stopping for you to catch up even if you ask politely

>>79456453
>Typing is objectively faster than writing
That's because Americans can't into cursive.

>>79456463
>dude medschool
are med students still pretending they are smart these days

>>79456463
>medschool
learn quicker then. some guy at deaths door wont wait for you to go dig up your notes in ER

>>79456463
>the professor is not stopping for you to catch up even if you ask politely

Wow, the professor actually stops for students in America? I know your education level was low over there but that's amazing.

I'm in engineering btw

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>>79456463
>>79456493
>>79456504

>tfw waiting at the the doctors office so he can look up web md.

>>79456504
thats all doctors do dude. they literally google shit. except google is a medical library.

>>79456493
Did I imply that or are you projecting your inferiority complex?
>>79456504
>Dude if you cant keep up the pace of straight 6-8 hours of a guy going through content as fast as he cans people will die lmao
Shut the fuck retard.

>>79456552
>straight 6-8 hours
is he a robot?
I think youre just a bit shit at learning.

>>79456515
I'm not an American but professors in non serious careers like law, economy, physchology and pretty much all social and humanities shit are basically highschool teachers

>>79456453
depends on the class

pen and paper would help a lot with every math class beyond first year level, there are a lot of symbols and drawings, and checking new definitions and proofs

but laptop is great too, sometimes professor will mention something new to you and you will have to check wiki or MSE for examples or obscure theorems related to it.

I usually just use papers, but sometimes I bring laptop.

>>79456570
I think you are an out of shape kid who's shit at everything he does and you venting off in an anonymous imageboard

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>>79456572

>law, economy
>non serious careers

>>79456600
snapped already?
cant behave like that when under stress as a doctor senpai

>>79456572
>law, economy, physchology
>not serious
the delusion of med student never ceases to amaze

>>79456552
>>79456600

imagine having this autist as a doctor. can't even handle the bantz against NEETs

>>79454257
kek

>>79456631

med students and engineering students are the fucking worst when it comes to being smug about their field

>>79456453
You remember written material better.
>>79456479
I preferred it as a kid but kept running out of space on the single sheets of paper the teachers gave us to write on.

>>79456616
you should see how miffed doctors get when you've actually done your research.

>no, no, no you don't know anything , only me becasue I went to school and treat everyone the same like a factory worker
>and I cant give you the medication you want becasue the pharmaceutical companies and hmo's have me by the balls and I cant get paid without a million referrals

stay healthy folks.

>>79456611
If economy is a serious field of study then how come there are so many contradictory schools and your academy cannot agree on anything? I've seen PHD's in economy destroy countries in my life time.

>>79446979
Because they think differently obviously.

>>79456453
This.
The only reason for using pen&paper at uni is when you're in math/physics/electronics classes where there's a bunch of formulas and schematics.

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>>79449364

>>79456719
>Getting buttblasted because a professional disses your uneducated rabble
Doctors have to listen to this shit from hundreds of barely literate subhumans weekly, just let them do their jobs and stop being a snowflake

>>79456719
This.

The only reason I hate doctors is because they treat me like a retarded coal miner. I took orgo too you fucking faggot just give me my prescription and refer me to a specialist already.

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>>79456775
>I'm not a retarded coal miner I'm an intellectual office worker

>>79446881
A couple of friends and I always took our laptops to record the lectures. That way, only one person ever had to go and the rest of us could fuck off and do something else.

>>79447081

>not going to a university where every lecture is recorded and put online by the faculty

>>79456268
Because americans are zombies, they take in what tv say as truth, hence everyone ''thinking differently'' there but if you show up with another brand or even worse NO NOTEBOOK you might get bullied for ''not being different''

>>79456773
>barely literate subhumans
>your uneducated rabble
>stop being a snowflake

that bedside manner.
this why I hate doctors. heads so stuck up heir ass they refuse to even hear anything but their own bias.

we cant research on the internet only the doctor can. and we have to wait for YOU guys to come up with the correct conclusion we did after 12 visits to your dumb asses.

doctors only care about money. if you got paid by ho many people you actually help instead of by insurance companies, the country would be healthy as fuck. and there would actually be cures by now.

>>79456773
Dude GPs don't know shit

>poor cucks getting buttblasted ITT
lmao you peasants are bound to be wage slaves forever you better stop visiting this place too since only people with high social status go here. you are lying to yourself if you think you belong here.

>tfw bought a Mac
>types like a dream
>trackpad does what its suppose to do
>no windows 10 reminder bollocks
>no hours wasted clearly out the crap PC World fill it with i.e. mcafee antivirus, lenovo bollocks software crap, FUCKING XBOX LIVE SHIT
>battery life over 10 hours
>doesn't shit its pants when running autocad

>>79456775
>just give me my prescription and refer me to a specialist already.

fucking this.

>>79456515
>professor actually stops for students in America
why yes :)
You have to put yourself in a mindset of an equal to him, just lacking in experience, how else are you gonna discuss and learn anything if the expert just goes on a monologue, there are supposed to be questions, comments or point out some alternatives to the methods being taught, sometimes trivial, sometimes non trivial depends on the class, or sometimes even mistakes, but yes, the professor will typically ask if there's any doubt or someone could just raise their hand. That's an average classroom in a decent uni.
That is the norm but honestly my preference is just to let him finish with his lecture and ask questions later, in writing if I could, because I would be able to formulate my problems more precisely, to ask a well defined question and even partially resolve it, also think about other students, sometimes some guy's questions could just be a waste of time to many others. This happens a lot especially in gradschool in a class where almost everyone has publications, each is an "expert" in their subfield and their questions are both difficult and distracting from the main topic.

>>79456736

Because economy is inevitably linked to human behaviour and human greed, it's not a neutral field like let's say physics or mathematics, human error is the weak link of economy.

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>All my friends who have iphones older than half a year have busted screens
>I once threw my samsung at the crotch of a friend who fell asleep during a long subway trip and the phone bounced off his balls to the floor unscratched
You'll never convince me to stop giving my money to gooks

>>79456801
Yes I took orgo because I'm a office worker.. you're a bright one.

>>79447400
Writing notes on paper helps you remember it more by far.

>>79456916
sounds more you and your friends are idiots choosing to smash your phones.

>>79456736
At least economists actually do research and modelling. Doctors parrot what actual researchers tell them is true. I can't wait till robots make you obsolete.

>>79447418
Unnecessary. Recording audio is just a waste of time for most situations. Time management is 2nd only to writing skills that University Students are terrible at.

>>79456801
>>79456775

retarded coal miners get paid way more than intellectual office workers

>>79456948
My friend's phones got busted off honest to god shit like dropping the phone from desk height, I'm the only impulsive retard.

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>>79456937

>>79456987
>I'm the only impulsive retard.
lol least youre honest

>>79456984
I make 75k and I'm 3 years out of college. Highly doubt it.

>>79448284
Because (and this is a secret that 99% of students don't know) you're supposed to ask questions and interact with your prof. If you don't have at least a casual relationship with each of your profs you're doing University wrong.

>>79449299
marketing

>>79456228
meme answer

>>79457006

Are you a coal miner or an office worker?

>>79457006
You have no idea how much miners make. I would never do the job, my god it's horrible, but the miners that I know all start at 6 figures. Keep in mind I am Canadian though and we actually treat our blue collar workers well.

>>79456961
>I can't wait till robots make you obsolete.
only problem with that is you cant corrupt a robot, so those "rogue" doctors won't be able to give you sht that will actually help you even if textually you don't "need it" because you aren't in the parameters that the guidelines tells them. common sense and experience is a foreign language to most doctors.

those doctors on tv that actually help patients are how we wish doctors should be.

>>79447720
or you could just flick through your handwritten notes

computer based notes is needless complexity

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>all these poorfags who have never used a Mac

>>79448262
literally our gal

>>79457026
He is a coal mine company office worker
>>79456961
I dunno if this is the case in America but researchers here are medschool students who didnt want to deal with retarded patients

>>79457040
>you can just flick through them
>omg it's so complex to do ctrl+f

Not to mention you type way faster than you can handwrite. You can go back and edit things, change the order and the wording. You can insert links, images, graphs, etc. You're just trying to find a reason to hate on computers.

>>79456453
lol @ trying to write LaTeX in realtime to keep up with what the prof is doing on blackboard

there is actually a guy in my lectures who tries to do this, I suppose it's commendable that he tries but he's obviously struggling to keep up

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>>79456916
>been using Iphone 4 for fucking 7(SEVEN) YEARS
>still works just fine and doesn't have a single scratch on it, never had to reset it or whatever
I bought myself an Iphone 7 last month since 4 is becoming outdated and keeping the 4 as a backup.

Meanwhile my brother changed gookphones multiple times and had lot of issues in those 7 years.

>>79456937
>I was taught this by a number of boomers who grew up writing on paper so it must be true

>>79457035
>High risk
>Shitty conditions
>Career is contingent on external market forces
>FIFO
>Burn out maximum likelyhood

Sure is a great lifestyle in Alberta

>>79457010
>he doesn't know how to look up an answer
>he needs a baby sitter to tell him the answer so all he learns is how to ask someone else instead of learning to find answers to things he doesnt understand

you fucked up your entire learning process. who is gonna tell you the answer when you're working by yourself? better call mom

>>79457354
You're paying for that babysitter you moron.
If you want to learn by yourself don't go uni at all and save yourself some debts.

>>79457354
>he doesn't know how to look up an answer
Just because you ask questions doesn't mean you don't know how to look it up. You have an expert standing in front of you, use him. This system has been used for a reason and those who ask do better for a reason.

>who is gonna tell you the answer when you're working by yourself?
It's 2017, who the hell works by themselves? Your more experienced coworkers can usually be asked for help, and if not you can research yourself, but my lord it's faster to just ask.

>>79457040
I sat a law exam 2 days ago which required 2 textbooks (i only took 1 cause fuck it) and 250 pages of font size 11 notes

I was able to flick through the different chapters of my notes using word with no effort whatsoever, building a contents page that took me immediately to a topic and its cases/legislation

With handwritten notes you'd have to leave space at the beginning of the book for contents, then randomly compile all kinds of writing, and it'd be on probably 500 pages instead of 250 because nobodies handwriting is as small and readable at font size 11 of a computer

anyway do whatever this is a long boring post

>>79457391
Everybody needs that piece of paper you dumb shit. It's a scam but you still need it.

>>79457416
My point still stands, if you're paying for it, might as well use it.

>>79457091

typing equations and making graphs is tedious shit on a computer, it's much easier to do by hand. if I need to go back and add things I can just insert another page into the ring-binder.

maybe if you're in a subject without much math or diagrams it's efficient. for mine (physics), maintaining digital notes (aside from programming stuff obviously) is just bonkers.

>>79457391
I'm not paying for the babysitter I'm paying for the piece of paper. I'd kill a thousand baby seals if it meant I could skip all the bullshit 'learning'.

>>79457354
>he doesn't know how to look up an answer

>trusting stackexchange faggots to explain something to you

>>79446979
Ive had mine since 2010 and it still works fine

>>79457401
>This system has been used for a reason and those who ask do better for a reason.

Because prior to the internet you didn't have the answer at your fingertips

Do you think the Greeks would have required everyone sit around and debate if they had the internet? Socrates wouldn't fuck with anyone

Learning has changed but the businesses (college/university) has not immediately adapted because they are still turning over incredible profits. They don't need to change yet.

I've asked experts before questions of law and they can't even answer them because it's the kind of questions where you'd need to know the intentions of the authors, which can only be theorized, so I stopped trying to learn the motivations of some laws and just started focusing on learning the law and getting the answer right.

In practice nobody gives a fuck about why a law was made, and if they do question it hansard will define it, not the actual theoretical basis of the law.

>>79448262
what? I don't get it

>>79456479
Unless you type like a snail typing is still faster than cursive

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/tv/ is a board for discussing television and film.

>>79456611
law sure but in my country economics is for those who're shit at everything else

>>79457601
Yeah, and I watch TV shows and films on a stone tablet.

>>79457610
economics will heavily assist a person in accumulating wealth if they're not retarded

99% of humanity doesnt know how to make wealth or what to do with it if they get it

they dont understand markets, exchange rates, interest rates, the whole thing is a mystery to them. finance is a different language to most people.

economics is a massive advantage senpai

>>79457655
finance and economics are related but distinct subjects. finance is useful, economics isn't.

>>79454232
>Knowing basic stuff about computers is considered "Computer Skillz".
You know what, maybe you should use an apple. And wear a helmet, too, life is rough.

>>79457775
economics informs your decisions... the casual on the street might understand the basics of finance but can he make any prediction as to the value of his currency if he doesnt get economics? he might be able to handle a mortgage but doesnt realise inflation is about to make his mortgage a noose

>>79457856
>can he make any prediction as to the value of his currency if he doesnt get economics?

can you?

>>79446881
It doesn't tend to happen as much in the UK. You don't memorise anything unless you're writing it by hand. This is mostly just "hey guys look I have an expensive Macbook".

>>79456900
Well seems like glorified high school to me. In my country you are expected to be able to understand shit if people simply tell you about it. Makes a class take half the time and you don't have to listen to idiotic questions. But as you can see ITT Americans are lietrally too dumb to take notes or even listen in class. So your therapy group sessions with questions and alternatives seem adequate.

>>79457901
more than someone with no idea

>>79453858
Because only ameritards are obsesed with them.
I know people that have an iphone but all of them have a normal windows laptop.

>>79457010
>>79448284
>you're supposed to ask questions and interact with your prof

while that is true, to elaborate further, it is not about being friendly with the prof, it's more about problem solving skill and actually learn something actively. The most important part is not asking questions to the prof, but the questions the prof asks the class during his exposition. It's like a mini quiz, sometimes he would even stop for 5 minutes to let you figure out the next step, how to resolve a problem he posed. (I've seen this style of teaching from functional analysis to nonlinear optimization class, basically to make adjustment if the class can't follow and make sure the professor is not wasting everyone's time).

These are the most important part of attending a lecture. It will reveal a lot about your own ability and also about other guys in the class, where you stand, etc. If your class doesn't have this, then yes you can just stay at home and watch youtube videos.

>>79456219

Get a part time job and buy a good laptop that'll last you for the next few years.

>>79457934

Go ahead and name the university you attend and state your major. Let's see how hard the coursework is.

>>79457934
>you are expected to be able to understand shit if people simply tell you about it
well then it's clear that what you are studying isn't non trivial.

>>79456268
>>79456268

Because it's easy for most people to use.

They don't care about privacy or control over their machines. Just as long as it runs and lets em watch memes on facebook while sharing the same things over and over again with their facebook friends.

>>79448209
Yeah I've had some asian kid do that

Am I the only one who reads the literature and listens during lectures? No computer, no pen and paper just ears.

>>79458172
i did that when i "studied" media, but now in law you can't just remember all the sections and cases relevant

>>79458172
I'm sure you remember what was said in the first month of class when you are preparing for the final at the end of the year.

>>79446938
Its Mizzou's journalism school ironically one of the better journalism schools in the country. Back around a decade ago Apple became a major sponsor for the UM system so the schools shilled the fuck out of them and students got pretty great discounts.

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>>79446881
As long as their are bullshit electives students are forced to take that has nothing to do with their majors, there will be students fucking around on laptops not paying attention.

I'm majoring in geology, why the fuck do I need to take art classes? That's highschool shit to justify tuition prices.

Psych/premed major here

During my lectures everyone seems so uninterested and I noticed a lot of people were even playing games on their laptops in front of me

If they don't pay attention then why go to the lecture?

>>79457934
American universities are some of the best in the world though, its just our public education that sucks ass.

>>79458251

The lectures are usually uploaded but even if they are not you always have the readings to go back to, nothing will pop up on an exam that you haven't read already.

>>79458292
Often you'll be asked a question about something that was only mentioned by the lecturer for the exact purpose that it's not in the readings and you'd need to attend/listen to the lecture to know the information

Word to the wise Chrissy...

>>79458259
Maybe you'll like Arts so much you decide to study another degree goyim :^)

It's like you pay us for the opportunity to upsell you

One prof at university told our class people can only use macbooks if they blocked out the glowing apple.

>>79458276
I did that for a chemistry course I had because the online teaching system was better than the professor. There was no attendance policy or anything, but I still showed up often enough because he didn't announce tests in emails or anything, and having a general sense of how the professor teaches is useful because you get an idea of how he's going to ask the questions on the exams, and you don't need to be paying too much attention to pick up on that. So the online shit and textbook give you the knowledge, and popping into class now and again gives you the context you're going to have to use the knowledge in.

>>79458313

Never had that, lectures are optional here.

>>79449863
lmao this. People forget how much the few inventors and shit carry the rest. Same with when you see faggots talking about how great the British empire and shit was, you had nothing to do with that shit.

>>79458453
I had it happen this week and lecturers are optional here too. They just do it because they can.

Luckily I listen to the lectures cause they always drop exam hints, but the only reason I knew anything about that question was from the lecture. Checked my notes and textbook and not 1 sentence addressed the question.

I hope everyone in my class didn't remember or watch the lecture cause fuck em

>>79456102
I mean just because you're successful it doesn't mean you lose that shit. Doesn't matter how rich you get if you're ugly you're still ugly and everyone sees it/knows it.

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>samsung laptop is 4 years old this year
>still works like charm
based gooks

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>>79446768
Yo, middle section front row, second from the left aisle.

?

>>79458535
ASUS from 2013 still going strong. Use it as my desktop and connect the HDMI to my 55" tv

lie in bed shitposting with wireless K and M

the life senpai

>>79456219
>HP
enjoy your mountain of bloatware

Just sell it for a few bux online and save to buy a new one
Or keep it as a spare PC for porn etc

>>79454911
Why not blow your student loan on one? I never went to uni, but the first thing my mate did was buy a gaming pc with his loan money.

>>79458605
>tfw bought a hot meal

>>79454911
wow has it really changed that much? i graduated 2 years ago and was sub 20% on laptops

>>79448189
As someone else who had to work fixing computers I can tell you that they WILL break and then you are fucked because the entire system is locked down and impossible to fix with anything but a factory reset. They do get malware and because of their reputation of never getting malware there are really very little resources available to fix it once they get infected. There isn't even a surefire way to close down non-functioning programs, even with command line, all you can do is "ask" the OS to try to close it.

>/tv/

>>79446881
Pen, paper and your brain...why do they bring the most expensive computer around then ?
Try do that shit in Brasil.

>>79446881
First year I used to write down on paper my notes and attend everyday.
Second year I started bringing a laptop and fucking around half the time.
Third year I didn't attend lectures.
I passed everytime with flying colors, and I realised what I remembered of those classes was more tied to how I studied for the exam than what I did in class, exception made if something emotionnaly engaging was happening as the teacher spoke.

Tell me, why should I take the path that requires the most efforts with only marginal gains?

>>79449843
>the best explanation for why I appreciate macs too.
>literally said "interested in putting in just a basic amount of effort to learn their computers systems and how to keep them running"
>anon basically said macs are for retards, for ignorants that paid overpriced stuff to remain ignorant
>the best explanation for why I appreciate macs too.

>>79455281
She is hunched and covering her mouth, has glasses. It's a good laugh, he's got it.