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wew lad.
What do you guys think ?

To me this looks terrible they went for action sci fi flick, with the lost identity/memory, who am i, i kill them all. Some random rehashed Anime scenes. What do they thinking this shit will bomb hard. This is some mixture between Lucy, Robocop and Black widow solo movie in the near future. So they completely neglect the story that made Ghost in the Shell good and went just for action. No depth no Philosophy behind What's a Ghost, What's a Shell, no evolution and reproduction, no Motoko man or a woman interesting brain scratch, no questioning what being "human" is in this world where man and machine where blended, the "tank" scene had so much meaning behind it in the animation here it looks like it will be just because,the diving scene also. The plot and the atmosphere is what makes the anime so good, here they miss bout of it. I am kinda mad because i love sci fi and with better cast director etc, this could have been a great movie.
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scarjo is my waifu so ill see anything shes in so i can get some fan service
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Didn't read your post, lol

The film looks fine

OP is a faggot
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>>79438130

You said it all. Literally, every word of it.

It will tank, the jews ruined it.
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I think it looks good.
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It just seems completely pointless
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>judging it by the trailer

who knows what dialogue there will be

I'm glad any scifi or futuristic stuff is getting made at all
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>>79438130
I wanna go surfing with her
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>>79438130
I like that poster.

Trailer looks generic, but I was expecting that, probably better than Lucy.
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I hope there is a lot of Beat Takeshi. Probably the only redeeming factor is him as Aramaki
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>>79438130
>with the lost identity/memory, who am i,

MUH CYBERBRAIN AMNESIA


I wan't a clear answer to how this is possible.
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>>79438130
>absolutely shit all over the source material
LOOKS REALLY GREAT SENPAI
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>>79438610
Butthurt weebcuck detected lmao
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>>79438466
What dialogue do you think will have ? When they go for the old cyborg cliche who am i i lost my memory etc.
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>>79438600
Hacking people's memories (called "ghost hacking") was a core element of the original film
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>>79438130

Paunchy Middle Aged Woman In The Shell?

pass
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>>79438669
the fact that they reference the Arise series with that red outfit is enough evidence that they don't understand the source material desu
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I blame the Kikes.
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so which of the TV and movies are actually worth watching?
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I don't think it will bomb. I've heard people say they think it looks "cool", people who just want to see some flashy sci-fi action. Enough people will see it the opening week, it'll generate cash.

The movie will be shit though, no question
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>>79438715
This time it's definetly their fault.
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>they created me, but they cannot control me
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>>79438724
-1995 film
-sequel to 1995 film
-SAC show (both seasons)
-SAC sequel film
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>>79438684
no one hacked her kek do you even watch the trailer
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Just like any movie based off a book I don't expect it to be perfect or even retain the soul of the manga but I'm prepared to accept it for what it is
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>>79438761
This is the correct answer.
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she's a strong womyn robot or wobot so it's good
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>>79438776
hopefully the 2 minute trailer doesn't show the full plot of the film you dipshit. It'll be a big twist near the end or something
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>how many were there before me?
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>>79438724
Original Movies (1995 and the sequel)
S.A.C (1st season is meh, 2nd season is GOAT)
The Manga.

make sure you get the original theatrical version of the first GiTS movie cause there's a newer version out there with shitty CGI


>>79438737
most definitely, they have the various material to choose from but they decided to shit on GiTS established lore to make another movie about a cyborg losing their memory, fucking bull.
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>>79438130
Did Lindelof worked on the script ? It look like shit.

The average viewer brain is fried. Ghost in the Shell is a way too complicated story.
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This is supposed to be Borma. I wish I was kidding
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>>79438836
>Motoko Kusanagi
>known to be a class AAA super hacker
>like nigga probably the second best in the world after The Laughing Man (SAC is canon get at me, fags, especially since The Laughing Man is supposedly in this movie along with The Puppet Master and Kuze, somehow all meshed together into this shitshow of a movie)
>she was probably ghost hacked lel
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>>79438939
I'm just giving you an in universe explanation as to how her memory could be fucked, calm down. It seems like they're portraying Section 9 as corrupt or something, so they might go so far as to change how adept of a hacker the Major is.
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>>79438938
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To people who want to waste they money on this movie and think it will be ok.
Daily reminder this guy is the director. He also directed Snow White and the Huntsman.
>The only goat thing this guy has done with his hollywood career was, convincing Kristen Stewart to fuck him in a car for casting couch roles
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Why didn't they make an Orion movie?
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>>79439025
This is exactly why i think this movie will be pure shit. The guy is retarded, he doesnt have any sort of talent, he shouldnt be directing this.
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>>79438836
the twist is puppet master was feeding her bullshit just to use her
screenshot this brain ded fagget
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>>79438761
This although I still haven't seen the second film, is it a lot like the first one?
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>>79438422
All movies are pointless, it's just a way to pass the time
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>>79438997
>It seems like they're portraying Section 9 as corrupt

Which is bullshit as fuck, Daisuke Aramaki is shown as trustworthy, noble, and extremely loyal to his team in the Anime's
to do a complete 180 on his character is just poor choice.

and what the fuck is wrong with Borma, he looks fucked up in this film.

god am mad I can't even concentrate on this phone, fucking KIKES.
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>>79438130
I'm looking forward to it. Despite not being impressed with the Director, Screenwriters and ScarJo, I need my futuristic Sci-fi robot fix and GitS isn't a bad choice for adaptation, HOWEVER, let's not forget that although beautiful, well animated and full of interesting concepts and ideas, GitS is a bit overrated and esoteric.

The trailer looks good, love the cinematography and based upon the shelling sequence I've seen, this will be a first day theater trip for me.
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>>79438997
Anon, this isn't how this works. You're supposed to let me be inexplicably angry at you so I may vent my frustrations about the bastardization of one of my favorite franchises in the world by the kikes in Hollywood so they may make a stupid pointless cash grab profit.

Here, take my current wallpaper. I like it because it's simplistic and dark so good for shitposting after dark.
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>>79438584
I just bought Violent Cop and GitS on Bluray yesterday.
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>>79439180
Wew lad i feel bad for you. You get hyped over will Rupert Sanders movie. Good luck lad. Just dont come here and start "I wasted my money on this crap" thread when you come back from the cinema
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>>79439088
its not Puppet Master, its Kuze (so the casting says)

>>79439089
I didn't enjoy the second one as much. Its more complicated, but maybe I'm just retarded. Its still worth watching for the animation and technology (as are all of Oshii's films) but its definitely the weaker of the two movies

>>79439156
>is just poor choice.

This whole movie was a poor choice
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>>79438152
FPBP

Nobody cares if this movie is going to be shit.

Everybody just wants to see Scarlett Johansson in a nude colored body suit.
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It will be shit for sure! The only people that can pull a good accurate Ghost in the Shell live action movie are prime James Cameron, prime Steven Spielberg and Neill Blomkamp
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>>79439463
relevant
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Everything about this looks half assed. From the CGI to the Johansson's hair.

>"Everything they told you was a lie" cliche

Yeah, fuck this movie.
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>>79438130

They fucking butchered the original plot and Im not happy.

I'll still go see it though.
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This will be so bad especially if talentless tard like Rupert Sanders try to go for depth and Philosophy about Ghost in the machine i hope he go there,
this train wreck will be so fun to watch
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>>79438761
I got the 95 movie and Innocence on Bluray. Already seen them but are you saying that GitS The New Movie is worthy of those two?
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>>79439989
i will pirate plunder it not wasting money on that shit
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>>79440072
"Gits The New Movie" is part of the Arise universe, and Arise was pretty shit, so no. I meant Innocence when I said "sequel to 1995 film"
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>>79439180
>GitS is a bit overrated

Is it?

>esoteric

Yeah.

>>79438130
It'd be pretty fucking hilarious if all the marketing showing off this generic Hollywood film was a ploy to get people to watch the film so that the last 1/3rd gets all 2deep.
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>>79439325
Did I say I was "hyped", faggot? I said that it looked visually nice and is based on interested source material. I liked the trailers and will reserve judgement until opening day. Good day to you, Sir.
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>>79440377
When did this ever happen?
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>>79440136
What's the SAC sequel film? I though that was The new movie?!? Learn me.
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>>79440650
Its Solid State Society. Its pretty tight
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Rupert Sanders wont be able to pull it also no way they go for anime remake. The anime Ghost in the Shell’s attempts to address some of the biggest questions there are: what makes a human? How do you define consciousness? If someone has been mostly or even entirely replaced by machine parts, can they still be classed as human? Where does the line between artificial intelligence and independent life blur? You can’t replicate consciousness in a lab, so how can humans claim to have any sort of ownership over something that they don’t entirely understand? Major Kusanagi’s philosophical stance is an endlessly intriguing one, throwing up the sorts of questions that we should all ask ourselves, especially as technology continues its unstoppable march. bears all the hallmarks of a truly great work of science fiction: a fully rounded future world, sympathetic and complex characters searching for a deeper understanding of their lives, beautiful locations and technologies.

But who need all of this lets make a movie about
>robocop
>they created me, but they cannot control me
>who am i
>muh lost memory
>pew pew matrix lmao guns lmao
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>>79440627
I think Fight Club, but the last 1/3rd didn't really get 2deep as much as it just got weird
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>>79440682
>pew pew matrix lmao guns lmao

Well, GitS was one of The Matrix's prime inspirations (for better or worse). But apart from that, you're entirely right
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>>79440668
>Solid State Society
I'll check it out. Thanks.
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>>79440136
I'm actually pretty glad there is no Puppet Master, since the Laughing Man and the Individual Eleven terror cell are way better and more active antagonists. Maybe they'll merge 'Arise' with '95 in an interesting way.

Still the big problem this movie has is with Section 9. That organization isn't the problem, the story is fundamentally about the surrounding hackers, NGOs, and foreign influences that produce a high amount of subtle interference in Japan. It's almost undetectable sometimes, but it's there.
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>>79438130

>he is everywhere and nowhere haha
>i will find him and i will kill him lol
>he hacked in2 their minds
>idk well maybe u should make me more better next time huh? haha
>everything they told you.. WAS A LIE

At least it will look nice.
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>>79440932
>since the Laughing Man and the Individual Eleven terror cell are way better and more active antagonists.

Thing is you shouldn't look at the Puppet Master as an antagonist. Just a vehicle for questions.
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>>79438130
Looks cool, definitely seeing it in theaters.
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>>79440950
Don't forget
>We saved you, and now you save others!

My eyes are still rolled back in my skull
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We have an MPAA rating yet?
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>>79440950
i didnt really like the landscape the city shown in the trailer look kinda cheap and not very immersive for me
i wanna see more of a blade runner atmosphere
tho i like the cyborg effects and the geisha robot
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>>79440932
>the Laughing Man and the Individual Eleven terror cell are more active antagonists

To be fair, Puppet Master is only in an 82 minute film, whereas the other two sort of have a whole season to build them up. They also flat out have more screen time (at least for Kuze) when compared to Puppet Master
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>>79441124
Looked like blood from gunshots in the trailer so R I guess. Or maybe pg13 release with R "DC" later.
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>>79441182
the thing with the 1995 GitS city was that it had the raunchy, Hong Kong inspired areas while also having the pristine high-rises. Although there are some seedy areas shown in the trailer, it looks like most of the film will be in fancy sci-fi buildings
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>>79441274
pic also related in comparison to the 2017 one
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>>79438152
Is section nine even a thing in this shitfest?
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>>79441274
Scrolling down I tought it was a picture.

And exactly the main problem with the movie it's that they gave it the Iphone treatment.

With retarded color filter and everything.
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>>79441313
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>>79438130
Go to this thread
>>79440850
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>>79438130
>tfw posters are making a comeback
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>>79441274
Yeah, it doesn't have anything as dirty as Kowloon Walled City... but that would be hard to approximate with CGI. The original was torn down too so they couldn't shoot on location.

I do wish that they were going to explore the role of British colonialism on Japan. I collect a lot of antique Imperial maps and this just seems to be something an American production could expand on.

https://youtu.be/DWo5rlVO6hY
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>>79438130
Should have been as close to a shot for shot remake as they could get with live action.
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>>79438130
I'm sure it'll be an ok sci-fi action movie but an abysmal GitS movie
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>>79441224
Hah.
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Gits isn't good though, only weebcucks get angry at this movie
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>>79439025
>>79439081
Well shit. I wasnt aware if this
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>>79438130

>>implying that the first movie had some great story
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>>79438130
The Japanese even called it Goosto in za Sheeru and not Koukaku Kidoutai they were so ashamed of it.
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>>79439021
>>79438938

Boma does fucking nothing in 20 years of those in the shell stuff except for one episode where he defused a bomb. Fact.
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>>79441711
>Gits isn't good though, only weebcucks get angry at this movie
movie attempts to address
>How do you define consciousness
>what makes a human
>Where does the line between artificial intelligence and independent life blur
>If someone has been mostly or even entirely replaced by machine parts, can they still be classed as human
>human condition with or without cybernetic implants
>ghost within the machine

i know its too much for your pleb "ghost" so lets just meme weeb cuck lmao XDXD
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>>79441856
It was a classic introduction to cyberpunk, and it was made in ten months!

https://youtu.be/J9fT3nh-BYw
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I feel like it is going to be shit, but entertaining for a one time watch.
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>>79439025
so what if he fucked her? why do you need to bring this up? are you a tumblr SJW?
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>>79439771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHNCnpsuPrY
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>>79442193
do you even read ? he say its a good thing for him that he fucked her
The only one who act like SJW here is you check your shitty comment and then talk about SJW go back please
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One big problem with posting the anime screenshots versus the live-action screenshots is the discrepancy in depth of field.

An artist has full control over how shallow or deep they want their focus to be. Whereas a cinematographer, no matter how great, is at the mercy of optics.

It doesn't matter how much you stop down your aperture. If you have a closeup shot of a subject, the background is going to be blurry unless it is within 2 feet of your subject, even at f22.

However, artists don't have these problems. They can have the most bokelicious backgrounds even when it's a landscape shot, or they can have the most in detail background during a closeup.

The only way modern cinema can replicate this is by using CG, which is a complete possibility.

However, this discrepancy is part of the reason why adaptations aren't as good visually as their anime counterpart. When we have a fight scene, everything is in full detail, from the fighters to the background. But in real life, we can only have one of those in focus at a time unless the background is completely CG.
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>>79439771

Johansson's hair was supposed to be a Punk hair

Punk hair

Even this they can't do right
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Kitano's face with Aramaki's hair is already a big mistake.
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Like most films, looks pretty, story is shitty.
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Most of the CGI looks like a pre-rendered video game cutscene.
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>even the fucking Terminator which was made like more than 10 years ago looks better
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Thats one down. Will Blade Runner also be shit?
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Looks awful, I pretty much thought exactly what the OP said:
Visually it just tries to imitate the original while adding nothing new, the totally opaque skin-suit is such a cop-out to what was used in the original. If it visually can't add anything new then it serves no purpose because the original animation still looks fantastic.
Plot changes make it into a really generic future-conspiracy plot and changes some of the fundamental elements that made The Major appealing as a character.
Fucking trash Hollywood get away from my anime REEEEEE
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>>79442102
>not posting the superior gif version
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>>79438130

Will this movie have extended monologues discussing the philosophy of Descartes?
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>>79444949
They might say to the villain "Oh, so you were the ghost in the machine, eh?" but thats about it

besides, it was Gilbert Ryle who used the phrase "Ghost in the machine" to describe mind-body dualism, and it was meant as a critique
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>>79438130
Was just thinking that Gaspar Noe would have made a GOAT GitS live action movie. https://youtu.be/mlmRRR9jTWE
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>>79442108
Good video. Thanks.
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>>79442102
Wow it's philosophical and deep so it must be good. Sure weebcuck go cry more
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I'm still fucking salty that scarjo is playing the major. What the fuck does hollywood have against asian people? Name one prominent asian american actress that isn't lucy liu
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Am i the only one who finds the idea of Stand Alone Complex extremely terrifying?
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>>79438130
why did they make major fat?
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>>79446571
Why salty? If anything Scarjo looks LESS European than the original.
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Look at this fucking gaudy eyesore of a standee I saw at my local cinema? It's almost like Michael Bay redesigned Blade Runner. Not quite that bad, but still hideous.
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>>79447266
If they gave a shit about the look of the major...
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>we saved you, now you save others

>you had a family

>everything they told you was a lie

Now where have we heard this before
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>>79447332
It actually reminds of that (doomed) Aeon Flux movie.

>>79447359
She also had a better sense of presence as the Major too. For all the complaints against MoS, she actually did really well as Faora. Meanwhile, Scarjo wasn't even convincing as Black Widow.
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>>79441274
>>79441498
>Kowloon Walled City
I want a movie set in that. Not a sci fi one. More of a crime noir or drama one. They could use a combo of sets and various location shoots to recreate it.
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>>79447444
>I want a movie set in that.
Watch Bloodsport, newfaggot. It was actually filmed there.
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>>79441274
This, the gritty appeal of cyberpunk is that most of the city has to look like fucking Detroit with neons, not some kind of utopia.
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>>79441182
Imagine being the Puppet Master in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Motoko Kusanagi, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your flabby body and horrific androgynous monster face. I would totally merge my consciousness with you, both my ghost and the real me." when all he really wants to do is hack another loli sexbot in the red light district. Like seriously imagine having to be the Puppet Master and not only sit in that chair while Kusanagi flaunts her disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her stretchmarks and leathery skin, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while she perfected that stance. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone on set tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, KUSANAGI LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her mannish fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been hacking nothing but a healthy diet of foreign diplomats and politicians and later Section 9 staff for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Section 6. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her dimpled stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and merge with her "statuesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with personal trainers in the previous months. And then the Minister of Foreign Affairs calls for another hacking, and you know you could kill every single person in this room before the cyberpolice could shut you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're the fucking Puppet Master. You're not going to lose your future ghost over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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How is she so hot
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>>79447444
Theres an exact replica in japan
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>>79441872
Exactly.
They put a black man there, they WILL give him a lot of stuff to do.
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>>79438130
looks like they made it into a generic action
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>>79447444
...so you just want a bunch of 90s HK Triad movies... except with white people?
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>>79439472
Probably just Neil to be honest.
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>>79438130
>>79438130

Visuals look nice.

Everything else is shit.

Find it funny that they have more black actors than asians in the movie even though the damn setting is supposed to be Tokyo.

This looks like a drama hidden behind the Ghost setting with everyone missing the point.
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>>79438130
Teen rebellion movie.
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>>79447557
>she
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>>79441182
They completely missed the appeal of gits' world by making everything to look so colorful and "LOOK! HOLOGRAMS!!!!!"
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>>79441274
They should've left the footage they shot in Hong Kong as is and used them as the background, it would've looked 10x more natural and visually appealing.

Instead they took buildings from HK and added those obnoxious faces and giant fans/pipes on random surfaces.
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>>79446560
back to capeshit trash
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>>79447430
at least Aeon Flux had momy Charlize
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I fond the film's remix of "Making of Cyborg"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWkGxIA0tXI
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>>79447719
>>79447482
I should have bothered to look it up. They list them right on the Wikipedia page for the city.

Of course I wasn't allowed to see R movies in the 80s and only got into HK cinema in high school and college in the late 90s early 00s.
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>>79447530
8/10
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>>79438938
Why are they giving the eyepieces so much volume when they were tiny little lenses in the original? Shit looks tacky as fuck.
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>>79438130
>that muffin kino at the end

She is a big girl
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>>79438130
Every line is so cliché I can almost guess the plot of that shit.
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>Anime as source material
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