Now that the dust has settled, what does /tv/ think of The Dark Knight Rises' opening plane scene?
Tfw you watch it so many times you notice all the subtle affectations and intonations
Like when he says "Bane?" he draws it out slightly like "...Baaaane?" which just conveys so well his mixture of skepticality and lack of trust (he is using unofficial, dodgy channels so its justified), but also he is barely able to contain his excitement and he is swayed too quickly, you can see the way his men in the background react like "are we really doing this?" its such a good scene, everything is so recursively detailed and subtle, nolan really doesnt hand anything to you without you searching
The intro scene, particularly Bane's plan, makes absolutely no sense.
Consider the ultimate objective of the Big Guy's plan. As he tells CIA on the aircraft, Dr. Pavel refused his (Bane's) offer in favor of CIA's. That's it. Hijacking the plane, clipping the wings, blowing off the tail, leaving no survivors, pumping a little bit of Dr. Pavel's blood into a random corpse, and leaving Brother in the wreckage; all of it is done for the expressed purpose of capturing Dr. Pavel.
The problem is that Bane already had access to Dr. Pavel before either one of them set foot on CIA's aircraft. We know this because Bane is "pretending" to be hostage to the same Masketta Man that turns Pavel over to CIA. So why didn't Bane just grab Dr. Pavel before getting on the plane? Why go through the elaborate ruse of posing as a fellow hostage? Why orchestrate a complicated plan where you have to board a plane mid-flight and then crash it just to capture a man to whom you clearly already have access? Bane states that he wanted to find out what Dr. Pavel told CIA, but if Bane grabbed Pavel before they got on the plane, he wouldn't have even had a chance to tell CIA anything yet.
The only answer, of course, is that it was personal. The Big Guy knew that CIA was onto him, so he had no choice but to crash the plane with Nosur Vivors
>>79429740
I's perfectly awkward and hilarious. No wonder it's a meem.
>>79430411
"Wreckage brother" was their slang word for plane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkJcoc_cAf4
>now that the dust has settled
the dust will never settle, anon.
>>79430411
we need a prequel to explain what was so personal between them
>>79429740
It's bad
>>79430921
they went to the same big guy academy
they both had what was desired by the other
bane was the bigger guy
cia had the bigger heart
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>>79429740
It isn't the opening scene
>>79431098
hothead?
>>79430830
The dust never settles, but the fire always rises
>"CIA had a program in the sixties for getting their people out of hot spots called Skyhook."
>Bane kills CIA and gets out of hot spot with Skyhook
P O E T R Y
>>79430411
If I recall correctly, it was because Pavel wrote some paper on that fusion reactor Bruce was building and how it could be exploited for evil. On account of that Bruce shut the whole project down. But, if Pavel is dead and supposedly he was the only one who knew how to rejig the reactor into a bomb, then Talia can persuade Bruce to show her the location of the reactor cause the danger is gone.
Basically Bane wanted Pavel to be declared dead and it doesn't get more official than crashing in a CIA plane..