I remember when kid kino was still pure.

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>>79402022
>Judith was last seen riding her bike on the morning of July 25, 1988.[3] That evening, József shot her in the head while she was sleeping, and then murdered Maria.[5] He spent the next two days wandering around the house,[3] and said during a phone conversation with Judith's agent the next night that he intended to move out for good, and just needed time to "say goodbye to my little girl."[1] He then poured gasoline on the bodies and set them on fire.[9] After incinerating the bodies, he went to the garage and shot himself in the head with a .32 caliber pistol.[10][11] On August 9, 1988, Judith and Maria were interred at the Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Los Angeles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Barsi

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Yup yup yup

>>79402068
wow, imagine the crime scene

>>79402022
what went wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wenKPC4RGOw

I've never felt emotion from cartoons like I did with Don and goldman's work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20ZJ-gg1IQg

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>>79402022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObPneATgASs

>>79402022
>there was a time when animated films copied Bluth's style

Remember We're Back, a Dinosaur's Story?

>>79402376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rVuFHjkvHA

>>79402068
>>79402207

I cry everytim

>>79402068
is there one particular autist who waits around for LBT threads so he can post this story? it gets posted every single time LBT gets brought up, even in threads that aren't originally about LBT

:;(

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>>79402068
>Don Bluth thread
>someone posts Land Before Time
>Judith Barsi's death derails it
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME, talk about how Spielberg cut 20 minutes out of it or something

For that matter, talk about other Don Bluth movies

>>79402110
>no one has leaked the 6 minute Dragon's Lair pitch presentation
JUST

>>79402068
József motives were never know right?

>>79404352
This place is literally filled with autists, the worst kinds too.
The spammic-ones-not-op are pathetic but harmless compared with others.

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>>79404352
I'm begining to think that's the case.

Which is a shame, because I watched a shitton of Don Bluth movies lately and I just want to know what the FUCK happened

pic fucking related

>>79406875
>I just want to know what the FUCK happened
What do you mean?

>>79402068
STOP

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You just know.

>>79406895
Have you SEEN the movie? Hell, have you seen any of his early 90's stuff? Rock-a-Doodle, Thumbelina, Pebble and the Penguin, it's like he made a deal with someone to purposely make those films suck in exchange for his life

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>>79402068

>>79407122
Was Littlefoot a boy or a girl? I was so confused by them and Tweetie bird.
>>79402457
This movie was a favorite as a kid but it hasn't held up. I still that scene you posted is cool though. It is visually and creatively rich movie

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>>79407266
Agreed, but nostaglia has a way of romanticizing and helping you remember Don's films the way they were, an how you felt watching them as a kid. Good time, sweet feels.

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>>79402022
Pictures like that always make me cringe. Being successful doesn't make you look less autistic.

>>79407363
I feel like Don Bluth movies always had that special kind of feel that you most likely will feel the same way about them when you watch them again but in an older age. Even the shitty ones.

I still wish he dropped the baby talking animal stuff and did films with the same style of Space Ace and Dragon's Lair earlier, maybe he would've kept going if Fox didn't completely fuck up Titan AE, but we'll never know.

Maybe Dragon's Lair will be picked up and be a hit.

>>79407418
But its Don Bluth we're talking about here, someone who has defined animation and an artistic style in more ways than one.

>>79407418
It's not the same thing at all 90's born filth.

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>>79407418
I personally find The Secret of NIMH ones pretty sweet

Besides, this is fucking Don Bluth, fucker made films no matter how shitty, always looked better than Disney.

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>>79407468
Agreed, Don and Goldman;s artistic style and direction always had something almost uncanny about it, something supernatural even. I don't know if it was the colors, effects, or a combination of both. The music always had something to do with it. As for the future of the medium? I hope as much as the next fan of Don's that Dragon's Lair really takes off and brings back these magical moments in animation.

>>79407659
Perfect scene here for the "Supernatural" element

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q6WCdQm2Jo

>>79407659
It helped that they worked with and learned from the best, the new Disney crew that took over and did The Black Cauldron and so on had to be teached from scratch, which is why everything since Black Cauldron is so floaty and wonky

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>>79407827
Indeed, what we need is a 2nd Disney Renaissance. A rebirth of 2d animated kino

>>79407934
3D is more expensive anyways, And no one tries to have a style on their movies anymore, it's all cutesy gum bouncy Disney shit lacking any real substance, it's taking surprisingly long for the 3D age equivalents like Ralph Bakshi, Don Bluth or 70's Nelvana to show up already.

By the way, people forgot animation can be scary/emotional/effective once again.

>tfw Pebble and the Penguin Broadway musical never

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV6613DnYPE

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>>79408129

Oh man you got me started at Ralph Bashki. Talk about the definition of unappreciated animation, abet adult and lackluster for the majority of audiences at the time, I always saw "Wizards" as potentially an post-apocalyptic lotr equivalent. Indeed the lore behind wizards is a bit shallow and satirical, but the thematic of it could really work if someone could write up a good script and with Bashki behind the scenes, so that the trippy imagery and 60's alternative makes it in, completing the adaptation. Thinking about the sheer scope of it all, with LOTR sized battles between fantasy races, but with tanks and machine guns really gets my imagination soaring. Yeah, the 3D animations needs to take a backseat for a while honestly, so that 2D as a whole can be appreciated again with a new audience as well as bringing back the old timers.

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>>79408222
Nice trips good sir. have a sketch.

>>79407934
>Fievel (((Mousekewitz)))

>>79408443
Wizards is case in point, Bakshi's true tribute to Tolkien, he only got to make LOTR afterwards because it was either that or United Artists would do John Boorman's clusterfuck.

I'm completely fine with the film the way it is, thing is about Bakshi is that unlike literally everyone one that does ''adult'' animation he understood that he needed substance more than pretty animation or budget, which makes me wonder why it's taking so long for a proper 3D R-rated animated film that isn't a shitty brain-dead stoner comedy.

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>>79402068
The fuck?

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>>79402022
>there are over 12 land before time movies and one of them, 10 maybe, had kiefer sutherland in it

>>79408679
>American Tail - Obviously about Jewish persecution
>Land Before Time - a subtle but nonetheless story about the Jews' journey for the promise land
>Titan AE - Humans (Jews) are separated and segregated all over the Galaxy until the creation of New Earth (Israel)

>>79408747
Yeah he was Littlefoot's dad?

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>>79408683
My best guess is that filmakers and directors in general are simply filming in response to newer audiences and whats in demand. having a movie developed in response to the nostalgia factor in older audiences just isn't attracting anybody because they aren't convinced that such projects would bring any definite revenue to back future projects. That brings me back to the point you made earlier. Don Bluth and Gary Goldman's "Dragon's Lair" may be one of the last chances we will get to grasp audiences back and fund more 2D animation. A lot rides on it, and even if it doesn't do well? We will at least have a last hurrah and be able to enjoy animated kino one last time from these legendary animators.

>>79408747.
lmao I forgot about that

>>79406761

Hazarding a guess at severe mental illness brought on or exacerbated by heavy drink

>>79408747
Varg no.

This is a special thread.

For anyone wanting to learn about Don and his history. Pretty good 5 part documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F7urdCi2-k

>>79409388
I watched it to wonder if it had anything in them that wasn't in wikipedia or IMDb, turns out that I powered through the most annoyingly autistic voice I've ever heard just to listen to shit I already heard before.

The Troll in Central Park bit is the big killer there, because the guy is literally repeating Wikipedia to a T, even the whole ''animators leaving the studio'' bit in which the source isn't an actual report, but a goddamn Joke from a comedy blog.

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>>79409894
lol, by all means if there's a better documentary out there, share it. I've got some time off and a full fridge so I can binge haha

>>79409985
If I had time and equipment and a total lack of shame I'd do it, and it wouldn't be no fucking shitty Did You Know Gaming or Nostalgia Critic knock-off, I still don't understand why people insist on shoehorning humor like this in their reviews, especially when they're not going for the raunchy over the top AVGN stuff or the disturbing serial killer stuff with the Mr. Plinkett reviews

>>79402068
As soon as I saw it was a LBT thread I knew someone would post this shit. Yep, Yep Yep, motherfucker.

>>79402022
Oh shit, I had that Dinosaurs book.

Blast of nostalgia right there.

>>79410122
Hey man, its cool. I know enough that some internet fanboy's ((Documentary)) knowledge of Don and his history, won't get in the way of the real research iv'e put in. As for the humor, its just an attempt to be friendly and attract casuals for views, an unoriginal and common strategy. At least the kid has enthusiasm, cant hurt him in the long run.

>>79408749

American Tail was the immigrant experience told through the eyes of Eastern European jews.

Land Before Time had way more New Testament allegories than Old Testament.

I'm not touching your Titan AE metaphor because you pulled it out of your ass and I can smell the shit from here.

>>79410281
Well there's a difference between a mini-doc and what I had in mind

Instead of saying ''several scenes have been cut'' and rolling along I'd just show these deleted scenes and compare stuff, I didn't believe it at first, but MGM did have most of Pebble and the Penguin's scenes re-shot in Hungary with different colors, the reason is beyond me, but it's true if you compare a few scenes of the original trailer with the final film.

Then there's stuff with Rock a Doodle, the missing 20 minutes of footage of Land Before Time, the extended bits of Secret of NIMH, it goes on.

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>>79410594
Oh yeah I'm aware of the missing footage. But what baffles me the most is the Hell scene from All Dogs go to Heaven. Don stated multiple times that he wouldn't release it, even after all the new editions of the film. It baffles me frankly, as if he had something to hide, whether the animation in it was sub-par, or some other personal reason. Maybe Don Bluth's Mormon background had something to do with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr7khtV7GAs

Apparently even more was cut than what is presented here, Its bizzare.

>>79410894
>Don Bluth
>EVER releasing uncut versions of his films
yeah right. I'd talk about it more but there is 0 information about what happened behind the scenes of those films

>>79406559
4chan has never been a hugbox.

>>79402068
1 death is a tragedy. 88,000 deaths is a statistic

>>79411289
>4chan has never been a hugbox
Sure thing, buddy. We're just one of a different kind. /pol/ as a board is a hugbox for example.

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>>79411222
Nice trips, and yeah. I'm inclined to agree. Wish there was an insider to leak it, but I feel like Don had his reasons. Maybe before don or Goldman passes away, the surviving one will release it all. Better than keeping it all locked away like the Disney vault.

>>79411289
and?

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>>79402068

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>>79411417
Come to think of it, how many animated films are there where a Director's Cut/Extended version did re-surface or was even restored and given a wide release? The most recent example is The Thief, but the Academy really just scanned an old worn and badly degraded copy of the Workprint when again, Disney most likely owns most of the material, plus the alternate cuts exist.

it if there's a demand, it's not like the original cut of Star Wars either where George Lucas would have them hidden/eradicated while he's still alive.

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>>79411947
In the context of Star Wars, a reason was somewhat given. George Lucas didn't state it but he implied it heavily when he said that the new editions of the original Star Wars films are what he had originally envisioned, and that the original version of the movie was unnecessary in its entirety in his eyes, but there were many even back then that saw through this excuse and it became apparent that he was in fact, ashamed of his original direction for the films, and that he wanted to hide it instead of allowing others to study his work. As for other films that had abrupt cuts and edited out entire scenes? Right now I am a bit drunk and I cannot bring up much as of right now, but perhaps in a sober thread yeah? hehe

>>79412165
Well you have The Black Cauldron, which supposedly is missing 12 minutes of story and gore, most famous is the ''melting man'' scene, of which several cels leaked around the internet, You have Ralph Bakshi's original live-action/animation hybrid of Hey Good Lookin', The uncut version of the 1978 Lord of the Rings, the Workprint of Rock & Rule, those are the ones I can get from the top of my head

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>>79413059
Ooh I'm kinda in that cult following when it comes to The Black Cauldron. Something about the dark tone and the Horned King sent shivers up my spine. Seriously I think the horned Kings design was not only scary but I think he would give Sauron a run for his money. Also Rock and Rule is a personal favorite of mine. Seeing a dark and almost cyberpunk version of a goofy movie was pretty sick, as well as trippy in some scenes.

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>>79407137
>Rock-a-Doodle

Shut your goddamn mouth.

That movie was pure kid kino and provided one of the most underrated waifus.

>>79414382
WELL MY DADDY TAUGHT ME HOW TO SING
AND THAT'S WHY THIS VOICE MEANS EVERYTHING

>>79413383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbaoVbbCRao

>>79415165
Canadian Version is better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O37op2fVAPI

>>79415715
Wow I practically forgot about that, thanks.

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>>79406559

>>79415165
>>79415715
I want to fuck furry Debbie Harry.

>>79415967
saved

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>>79416116
No. Angel is pure

Cool World anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwp2RlPjGF8

>>79416147
Theres literally a sex scene tho in a car lol

>>79416270
It's cool

>>79416270
>Holly Would
Why was she so much more appealing in 2D than 3D? Has /a/ ruined me?

>>79416270
play with me

>>79416356
Because 3D didn't have the same figure and did not nearly act as slutty

>>79416356
No
Kim Basinger is just shit

>>79416270
Remember when Bakshi was good?

Me neither.

>>79416413
Noids do not have sex with doodles

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>>79416449
>Me neither.
blasphemy

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>>79416611
>They didn't watch Fire & Ice

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>>79417198
>they didn't watch Fritz the Cat

>>79408603
>good sir
>tumble filename

Leave

>>79402068
fpbp?

>>79417422
my roommate said Fritz was a good movie to watch on weed but it felt more like an acid trip.

why are 70's/80's animated movies so damn comfy?

>>79402068
every fucking thread

>>79417586
Back then no one gave two fucks about Disney and what they were doing so people were making animated movies based on the core factors of what made a movie good unlike nowadays, where everything is bouncy CGI with shallow stories for the self-pity and ''surprisingly adult'' audience and a sickening amount of quips, completely censored and sterile violence/drama for the general crowd.

>>79417586
>fpbp
>some spam retard posting again that wiki garbage for easy yous
Thankfully the thread developed into something good despite that beginning

>>79417834
the 90's were the death knell for traditional animation as an adult medium. Shit like Heavy Metal 2000 and Titan A.E. did nothing but prove that there wasn't really a reason to try anymore in that regard. not hating on Titan A.E. but it didn't really help anything. The closest we'll get to adult 2d animation is a rick and morty movie MAYBE if we play our cards right and that doesn't even sound worth it.

>>79404352
Why do you think this thread was created, newfag?

>>79417595
it has become a meme by this point

>>79418142
Not for that, ''''oldfag''''

>>79418200
It obviously was, newfag.

>>79418221
No, it wasn't. Stop trying to fit in so hard.

>>79407418
>that image
>autistic
That's like saying the Walt statue at Disneyland is autistic. And at the end of the day, Bluth didn't spend his years shitposing on a chinese cartoon imageboard.

>>79402068
EL JUSTO

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These are objectively the only really good TLBT sequels

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>>79402068
Great, now I fucking HAVE to post it

Why did you make me do this?

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>>79402022
>Some-where, out-there, beneath the paaaale mooon liiiggght