Who was in the wrong here?

>>79383748
The monster

The fans

>>79383748
>Lars for being such an insufferable cunt
>Lars for that godawful drum sound
>Lars for cucking Kirk into not having solos on Saint Anger
>James for being a drunktard
>James for writing shitty songs for Saint Anger
>Lars and James for still putting up with Bob Rock

Jason did nothing wrong.

>>79383938
No its not their fault, its the fault of the cryptozoologists who failed to properly identify the right kind of monster in time.

>>79385160
St Anger's first half is a great album

Bob Rock ruined the band.

>>79383748
the bus driver for killing cliff.

>>79383748
Alcohol was definitely a huge factor, it's good to see that James overcame it before losing everything; the band, friends, family, etc.

St.Anger was really more about working through their troubles than anything.

HE FUCKEN' QUIT THE BAAAND!

>>79388123
/thread

>>79383748
This movie is one of the best unintended pieces of comedy ever

>>79383748
Lars' dad

And definitely NOT Dave Mustaine

>>79383748

This documentary really highlighted how incredibly whiny and childish this group is.

>>79388123

this

shoulda had plot armor

DARKNESS

>>79386302
fuck off

>>79388340
Torben Ulrich: using "delete this" before it was cool.

Saint anger is a masterpiece compared to I AM THE TABLE the album

>>79388416
Technically Lulu is a Lou Reed album, so it doesn't count.

FUUUUCK

https://youtu.be/-x2jDAR1XZQ

Kino.

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Check it out man, you can't even fuckin' spell it right. Metllica. We've only been together 20 years.

>>79383748
Honestly one of the funniest docs ever. The music version of the TPM making of.

>>79383748
Metallica

Lars can't play drums for shit

I need to watch it again. James writing songs based on random things he heared, Lars getting drunk and selling his garbage paintings and Kirk being so out of place talking about his ranch. And how they couldn't just get rid of their therapist who at the end started writing ideas for songs. How difficult was it to just fire the guy?

MY LIFESTYLE

>>79387869
this. fuck the black album and anything after

well, load and reload were okay but nowhere even close to the realm of greatness that was K'eA, RtL, MoP and ...JFA

>>79389834
DETERMINES MY

>>79383748
In this:
James is an insufferable cunt who acts tough but is actually incredibly square.
Lars is a pretentious hack who does some scheming as always.
Kirk is like a poodle who just randomly walks through the frame.
Bob Rock is a sleazy used car salesman.
Bill Cosby Sweater therapistman is Bill Cosby Sweater therapistman.
Dave Mustaine is an asshole but in this he's just sort of pathetic and I feel kind of bad for him.
Jason seems like a genuinely nice guy who cares about music and not much else.

Kirk is best character. He just wants to surf and play guitar while watching Universal monster movies.

>>79390459
DEATHSTYLE

The band for not calling it quits after And Justice For All, and especially Lars for ruining the production on that album.

>>79390114
Load and Reload are actually much better than Black Album. I love the blousey "Southern Metal" style they used, James' vocals were great and some solos were kickass. Pretty unique body of work right there. They actually TRULY evolved with those two albums and made something different, meanwhile Slayer, Sepultura and Megadeth all kept making shit edgelord metal and never managed to put more than 5K butts in seats. Garage Inc. is a fantastic cover album and I always listen to it when I BBQ during hot summer days.

jason=kirk>james>>>>>>dirt>lars>>>>>>niggers>>>>bob rock

>>79389834
dumbest
>>79390459
lyrics
>>79390774
ever

Lars is the most misunderstood person in America

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>>79388123
this
>mfw listening to the story of the bus driver blaming black ice and james backtracking several hundred meters searching for said black ice, finding none
>kirk talking about james crying in the night calling out for cliff

>>79390903
>meters
thought he said miles

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>>79390903
>mfw they tried to lift the bus off him only to have it fall on top on him again

>>79390941
could be, don't remember exactly
several hundred meters can be several miles though :^)

>>79390903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIkSOx6kkMY

>>79390947
>>79390966


I'm kinda confused on how the bus fell on top of him, can somebody draw it out?

>>79390849
YOU LIVE IT OR LIE IT

>>79388340
He was totally right though, the song was shit.

>>79383748
Dave Mudstain.

I wonder if they paid him a whole lunch just to be there and cry like a little faggot complaining that megadeth will never be as successful like Metallica.

It made me cringe to watch him go so low.

>>79391006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89GNUnn-8KQ

>>79391006
It was like a tragic version of two characters falling and ending up in a compromising position that I see in my animes.

Napster
Napster
What ya gonna do?
What ya gonna do when we come for you?

>>79385160
So Saint Anger is a bad album? Thats all? Because yeah, most people think it is.

FACTS: Load is a great alternative rock album and was only despised by metal heads who cant comprehend anything beyond metal.

And Justice for All is a metal masterpiece and megadeth will never ever release something like that.

The black album is great. Bob Rock really helped Metallica evolve into the right direction after they peaked the metal genre with AJFA. Frankly after AJFA, there wasnt anything else to do there. His only mistake is Saint Anger.

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>>79391006
it tumbled, he fell out the window and SPLAT

here is a drawing since i should be studying

>>79391156
This guy gets it

>>79391156
are there any people out there that like St.Anger?

>>79391156
>And Justice for All is a metal masterpiece and megadeth will never ever release something like that.
Rust in Peace is better than any album Metallica will ever release though.

>>79391243
I like a couple of the songs. As a whole the album can go fuck itself though.

>>79391244
>Rust in Peace
lmao
>this is an actual almbom title

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>>79391286
>almbom
That's not just a simple typo anon, I think you might have brain damage.

>>79391244

Eh, I'd say And Justice is better than Rust in Peace, but I can respect your opinion.

Among the Living is best Big 4 tho

>>79391329
yeah it happened when I looked up that almbom title

>>79391390
lol, that actually made me laugh.

>>79390809
Kill yourself

>>79391496
He's right, there is nothing wrong with Load and Reload, they are good albums.

>>79390809
>Garage Inc. is a fantastic cover album and I always listen to it when I BBQ during hot summer days.
Indeed, I tend to listen to that album on summer.

>>79386302
St Anger would be a good album if the songs were half as long (they're pointlessly long, just repeating the same two sections; at least the long songs from Ride to Justice had a lot of variety to justify the lenght) and ANYONE would've told Lars to fuck off with that snare. The rehearsal dvd where Lars plays with a proper kit sounds so much better it's ridiculous. They should've just mastered it and released that instead.

>>79391535
Reload has a lot of filler songs.

>>79391535
they are not holy shit kys
garage inc is a great cover album though

>>79391560
Load is indeed a masterpiece though.

>>79388340
>And definitely NOT Dave Mustaine
/thread

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What metal (and to some extent rock) music fans don't understand is (because most of them are young) that people can change as they grow old, and the musician might not want to play the same type of shit they've played 20 years ago. It's best to let bands that we like to organically evolve their music the best way they see fit, and not force them to rehash the same riffs for 30 fucking albums

>>79391562
They are great albums.

>>79391562
>they are not holy shit kys
Reload maybe not so much.

Load is a great album, I doubt you were even born when it dropped, judging by the way you type.

>>79391618
Thrash is usually the most repetetive subgenre. Maybe that's why it's the most popular. Or rather it's the safest one to like. No one within the community will judge you.

>>79391626
they are not great albums

>>79391669
They are.

>>79390947
And to thing that he might've been alive before they dropped it on him. Though probably not.
And it couldn't have been pretty. He got squashed.

>>79391688
they are not

>>79388108

This. Guy was leeching the band's money.

>>79391618
That is true. I think Load and Reload get bad rep because they're not-metal albums from a band fucking called Metallica.

Problem is that Metallica really cares more about money so they decided to play it safe after that, giving fans "what they want". St. Anger was just shit because they made it at a shit time in their lives, should've given it another year or so after James' rehab to get back in the studio.

>>79391603
>abloobloo, why me so poor? why am i second one?
He wish he was second one! There are literally a dozen bands between Metallica and his

Should have stopped making any more music after I Disappear .

>>79391749
What was the problem with him? He seemed like a standard therapist. Not very helpful in anything. Was that it? I know that by the end he was basically another member of the band even "helping" them with their album but for a while he seemed like nobody special.

>>79391725
they are

>>79391887
Yes, Load is a great rock album. Fuck the metalheads

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>>79391887
they are

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>Megashit

>>79391555
>St Anger would be a good album if the songs were half as long
This. And that's every Metallica album since St Anger. The songs are all too long for no reason.

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Who was in the wrong here?

>>79386302
Nice bait

>>79383748

Is there a shittier drummer in a more famous band? How can you be a metal drummer and be that bad..

>>79392418

The table.

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Drake>>Metallishit & megashit

>>79392481

What exactly makes Lars so bad?

>>79388123
Cliff intentionally caused the bus to crash because he had a vision of Metallica's future and wanted no part in it.

>>79392481

Metal is one of those genres where you can be complete shit as long as you do tons of coke and can play hard and fast because fans really only care about speed. Now Metallica is old and Lars can't play hard and fast and they've "evolved" to not hard and fast stuff so Lars is FUCKED but it doesn't matter because he's synonymous with the band and he can't be replaced.

>>79392537

It appears he can't play faster than 63 bpm...in a thrash metal band.

>>79392569

but he can't play fast, at least from what I've heard. Even the oldest stuff like seek and destroy. Can he even blast beat? or play just paced d-beats/punk beats..?

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Can someone who has greater insight than just the doc tell me why Bob is so hated?

In the doc he seems the most likable (other than Trujillo) to me. No ego, no drama, he just wants to get some tracks laid down and when they verge into crybaby territory he tries to guide them into staying on point without getting pissy. Seems like he's doing his job as a producer pretty well.

>>79392481
Most drunmers wouldnt even be able to play And justice for all from start to finish. Not even Lars these days.

He wasnt bad, he just doesnt care anymore

>>79392630

From what I recall he came off as the average filthy record exe jew who just wanted to make the most sell-able/listening/profitable album to max out shekels.

Most fans of metal realize you can't make metal marketable without dumping it down for the masses, and therefore making it shit.

Of course, many people also believe Metallica was shit by then anyways, so it might not have been all his fault.

>>79392583
What on earth are you talking about? Lars consistently speeds up everything. That's his biggest problem.

>>79389335
TETSUO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>79392537
I can't "read" music or in general do anything but listen to it but he seems just so incredibly plain. Even in the more energetic songs like Spit Out the Bone the drums sound so weird as if he was hitting a wooden desk.


And let's be honest. He's in this band because he provided money. He and James had to learn how to play (Dave was the only one who already knew how to do it).

>>79392613
>>79392583
Buddy rich cant play that fast either, I guess he is a shit drummer too.

Metalheads, I swear...

And no, Im not even defending Lars

>>79392537

His fills are off-beat, sometimes even plays the wrong song. Youtubes got some compilations of what kind of mistakes he makes.

>>79390459
HAIRSTYLE

>>79392630
Because ha saved Metallica from being another metal band doing exactly the same shit for 30 years in a row.

In most metal fans head, Bob Rock destroyed metallica by forcing them to release great rock albums like load and the black album

>>79392690

Yes Buddy Rich can't play fast, but he can play in time and Lars can do neither.

>>79392653

Well I haven't listened to that album all the way through but, seriously?

skip to 7:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMkKCJUnKtw

most metal drummers are pretty good

>>79392670
Rick Rubin is another hated producer. Or at least controversial. But he only produced Death Magnetic with Metallica. He's certainly more casual which some (like Corey Taylor) found unprofessional.

>>79392670
>>79392719

In the doc I got no impression that he was trying to guide the sound of the music in any way. He just seemed like the only professional in a room full of massive egos and personal issues.

When I think of Rock in this doc I think of him saying, "Hey guys... why don't we pick up guitars and actually record something..." while Lars and Hetfield are crying because one looked at the other wrong and Kirk is meditating thinking about sunshine and rainbows in the corner.

>>79392672

How can you be in a thrash band and not have songs this fast?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mP5yT2Bu9w

>>79390849
>implying this shit is any worse than the average death grips lyrics

>>79392673
lol

lars is a little bitch

>>79392418
>>79392509
>tfw never listened to this or ever will, and will never understand the table jokes

Yngay Fatsteem destroyed metal.

His emphasis on robotic speed over composition and melody made a music genre into a sport genre and a new generation of musicians into shitty sportsmen just seeking who is faster.

I despise him and everything he represents. Id take Slash any day of the week and he can barely play the guitar, but at least can make memorable songs that are not schizophrenic bee buzzing.

>>79390849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jucYJSZR9qg
>1:54 - Biggest fart on a hill
>3:05 - Tits and ass tiny whale

>>79392789

James "sings" I AM THE TABLE repeatedly in one of the songs.

I gave up after the first disc because it is, in all seriousness, some of the worst music I've ever heard.

>>79392789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwaV_YZMIqY

>>79392418
Lou Reed is always in the wrong.
>>79392630
the fans, and the fact the he was more influential than any other band member not named lars or james

>>79392537
motherfucker has difficulty just playing in time.

>>79392829
man. fucking S&M was massive for about a few weeks

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>>79392776
Lars does bring up a very fair point in saying that not long ago, they were at thrash festival and he was the only original drummer from any old band there.

He finished by saying: "not everyone is Dave Lombardo".

I give him mad props for at least being ballsy enough, at his old age for coming up with something like Hardwired...To self destruct. I thought their thrash days were over.

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>>79392831
Well fuck me he really is.

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Mustaine is one of those people you think about when you're at your lowest and it cheers you up because you're not him.

>>79392922

I think this is an excuse for sucking. Just because you don't sound like everyone else doesn't mean you sound good.

Childhood is idolizing Rust in Peace. Adulthood is realizing Peace Sells makes more sense.

GIMMIE FU

GIMMIE FA

GIMMIDA BA DAHH BA DAHH

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>>79392831
>>79392930
holy shit, audibly keked
what did he mean by this?

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>>79392960
He...didn't imply that? I don't get you fanboys and your pity hate towards the guy.

>>79392957
>yfw you finally win a a grammy and they play Master of Puppets in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gpvXR3ifvo

>>79393008

I'm pretty sure it's DABAJABAZA

>>79392957
And its weird.

After all he is still a millionaire with one of the biggest metal bands in the world. Yet he is always so miserable knowing that he lost his place in Metallica and that he will never reach them. And for what? He has enough money to pay for his next albums, he doesnt need money, but he feels he lost the battle. A battle where music doesnt matter anymore for him.

Sad!

>>79392957
Over the years Megadeth maintained a more stable quality but it lacked really catchy songs that Metallica has on basically every album. Perhaps he needed that to get out of it shadow and it's all to obvious that's he's still very salty.

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>>79392836

>>79393073
thanks I forgot

>>79393059
holy shit that's a bad rendition of mop

>>79393074
He's known as the guy too wild for Metallica. Most former band members would pull off a Pete Best and disappear but he created one of the most recognizable bands ever which many purists consider superior to Metallica. That's not a bad fuck you at all.

>>79393059
> fanboys and your pity hate

there is no pity in it. I don't even like metallica

>>79393059

I watched this earlier today and didn't even realize until after like 20 seconds that they were trying to play Master of Puppets. What an absolute joke.

>>79393216
what the fuck do you care then

>>79392922
>hardwired
>thrash
jesus

All nightmare long is a good song. But it would sound better with cheaper sound production.

>>79393172
>one of the most recognizable bands
>metal bands
There fixed it for you. No one knows who the fuck is him outside the little metal sandbox. Metallica long ago surpassed that sandbox.

And while you make a great point, then why is he so butthurt? What makes you film that pathetic confession on a metallica documentary?

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>>79393250

>>79393278
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>>79393059
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gpvXR3ifvo

This is humiliating but luckily there was no one there to see it

>>79393337
>empty theater
>master of puppets playing when they win

lol, where they pranking him?

>>79393386
He only cares about Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

>>79393386
And they even played it wrong, like they're mocking him.

>>79393418
Well, good luck with that. Madonna is in it but not Deep Purple.

The thing about Lars is that he isn't just the drummer, but effectively the band's director. If you see the making of docus, he's ultimately in charge of arranging the songs and is there on every step of the production, calling the shots. He doesn't just sit there and play along to whatever James writes, but actively gets involved in how the songs are structured and shit.

But yeah, as a musician Lars pretty much just plays along. Unlike someone like, say, Danny Carey, who probably practices his rudiments at least two hours a day to keep himself good and in shape, Lars just gets on stage and blasts it, and what comes out comes out. There's a couple of shit fills he does (like in the pre-heavy section of One, where instead of playing a good beat he just goes SNARESNARESNARESNARESNARESNARESNARESNARE) that I'm sure have become mechanical to him because that's just how he's played it for so long. He never thinks of listening to the record or watch old concerts and see how he could make it better. He doesn't care, really; to him Metallica is the job; the drumming is just part of it.

>>79393233

because I like metal, and I think metallica is a pretty shit metal band

Fuck Lars, I can't hear the bass in AJFA

>>79390809

I've met like one other bloke in my life that has the same opinion as us dude - totally agree about loving the bluesy southern metal stuff. They were at the top of their game with their technique too.

I like the last two Metallica albums, but it's a shame to see them regress so much. I liked them when they were pushing things. Even Lulu was something new. It's brave to experiment.

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>>79393501
Fuck Lars, I cant even hear my song on my grammy night

>>79393450
fair enough. i don't tend to discuss bands i don't like, is all.

>>79392770

You are correct anon. He's a good dude and has produced some great albums. Very little ego, even in the fiery Black Album days. Fans just project their hatred of the direction Metallica went in onto him.

>>79393450
>because I like metal
Stopped reading there

>>79393449
You know what the funny thing is about watching BTS stuff from Metallica?

How bored Robert is 99% of the time.

I just don't understand why an amazing bassist like Roberto Trujillo (just listen to Infectious Groove) would join a bland band like Metallica

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Reminder that this is the only worthwhile addition to art and human history metal has produced.

>>79393789
he's played in much better bands. trujillo is a superstar compared to everyone in metallica

>>79393844
>gorguts
into the trash it goes

>>79393846
I know that's what's so funny about it. After what they went with Jason you'd think they would get Robert more involved in song writing but guess not.

It's still a Hetfield/Ulrich monarchy.

>>79393831
$$$$$$$

>all the mustaine hate
he's had better consistency that james and lars for sure, is a better lead player than kirk and has had leagues better musicans in his lineups, although james is a goat rhythm player and has good riffs, they can't touch some of the shit dave's put together.

>>79393844
Not even a metalhead, but there are many metal albums that are worth a listen.

>>79393899

And they give him the worst shit to play. In half of Hardwired he's basically just fingering the E string on open. No riffs, no interesting stuff, just 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0. He left Ozzy for this bullshit

>>79393899
yeah but that's how it's been since cliff died, even then he only contributed to less than half of the catalog. jason was a great player who had some good material too but again they cucked him.

>>79385160
Lars never did anything wrong.
Hetfield became soft after rehab. I'm not saying that that is a wrong thing to do, but if it's anyone's fault, it's James's.

>>79390114
Much like Sampson, they lost their power when they cut their hair.

>>79386302
The whole thing is great. It's a masterpiece.

>>79393925
Except for the part where he turned into an evangelist asshole

>>79394018
>being a right wing born again christian friends with alex jones
dont see the problem desu

>>79393899
>It's still a Hetfield/Ulrich monarchy.
As it should be.

>>79394036
It makes it even harder to take him seriously, you know

>>79394061
>ever taking dave srsly
cmon man

>>79393976
>6:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGoZ_pQY-14&t=2s
Poor guy. At least he's rich.

>>79393979
Yeah but after Some Kind of Monster you'd think they would've learned from their mistakes. Even during the process of bass players auditions they were saying how they had a different point of view and some other bullshit. But no, he's just a bass player for hire. I'm surprised they even bring him to the studio. I would've expected James to record the bass parts himself.

honestly kirk hammett is the worst part of metallica and always has been. he doesn't contribute anything worthwhile and he's a shit lead player paired with arguably the greatest rhythm player in metal. he plays the same fucking pentatonic scale on EVERY SONG. his live playing is fucking garbage. i enjoy metallica and think hardwired is a great record, as well as death magnetic, though not as good as the 1980s albums of course, but fuck as soon as i hear kirk come in i just fucking cringe. him and slash have effectively killed the wah pedal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or6f-EVlk88

>>79394091
I used to when I was younger, I feel kind of stupid now

>>79393925
Megadeth was more bad than good during all its career.

We could argue that black album/load were bad metal albums but never bad rock albums.

Frankly Im glad Mustaine is getting back in form with his latest work, but god fuck he had a much shittier career than Metallica.

>>79394154
Hammet is so crap now. At least he somehow was putting some effort years ago but now...he's just a shell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSoHS78c93I

>>79394154
youd think someone taught by satriani would know more than one scale

>>79394196
>2016
>having millions of dollars
>having endorsements so you get the best top of the line gear
>still recording shit on a goddamn cellphone
jesus

>>79394181
The thing that bothers me about Megadeth is that it's not a band. It's a Dave Mustaine project and always has been. A project in which he gets to treat great musicians like shit.

And I agree with you; Megadeth was more bad than good.

>>79394244
Worst part is that he...doesn't remember ANY of the 250 guitar riffs.

Like...really Kirk?

>>79394261
well now you can say that but it's given him the ability to bring people like chris adler in. and we all know the mustaine/friedman/ellefson/menza lineup was the best and had the most solid releases.

>>79394196
>>79394244
I think another factor people are forgetting other than money, boredom, ego is age.

They are grandpas now

>>79394286
its because they were all shit and based in pentatonic so just rehashed old riffs we've heard a million times

>>79394300
I especially liked the part where Friedman said "fuck it" and became a full-time weaboo and moved to Japan

like what the fuck man

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>>79394154
>3 wah pedals

>>79394300
Oh shit, I just googled Menza and turns out he died last year, RIP

>>79394286
>record yourself playing literally whatever comes out hoping it might be of use later
>repeat 249 times
>lose all recordings
>try to remember any of those recordings with precision

>>79394357
dude, look at his fucking boots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP6j2ZAVD_M

>>79394357
He looks so damn happy too. Good for him.

>>79394357
kek yeah he married a japanese broad like paul gilbert but went completely overboard. he speaks japanese and is on shows over there all the time, he's like a huge celebrity in their market.

>>79394357
>even found himself a qt nippon waifu
WHY CAN'T IT HAPPEN TO ME?

>>79394391
>fucking manlets, when will they learn.

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>>79394154

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cyH7OyRCoI

>>79394379
didnt dave fire him for lying about having cancer or something?

>>79394390
>precision
Good musicians remember their shit. Maybe not with precision, but well enough.

>>79391156
>Load is a great alternative rock album and was only despised by metal heads who cant comprehend anything beyond metal.

Agreed.

>>79391156
>And Justice for All is a metal masterpiece and megadeth will never ever release something like that.

Agreed. Why do people always say they can't hear the bass? I can clearly hear it.

>>79386302
I unironically enjoy:
St. Anger main riff and chorus
Sweet Amber
The Unnamed Feeling

would've been better if:
Songs would have been shorter
They used heavy distortion on the bass

So who was it?

A funny guy at the grammys or did Lars pay for it?

I cant believe it wasnt intentional

>>79394390
if you write something really memorable, youll keep playing it to work it into something better. its muscle memory after all, only an idiot would forget every "great" lick they've ever writtern

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>>79394357
God damnit Friedman

>>79394475
the bass is at the exact same frequency as james' guitar and mirrors the rhythm for 98% of the album. try this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kqTcLwUYj8&t=1239s

>>79394459
Not if you're just recording improvisations to pore over later, which I think is what Kirk did.

>>79394527
teleports behind you

>>79394489
Some kind of monster's main riff is pretty boss.

>>79390891
Explain.

>>79394511
But that's the thing: I don't think Kirk actually wrote 250 music ideas. I think he just had 250 recordings of him improvising, playing whatever was on his head at the moment, and was hoping to give James and Lars the recordings hoping they'd listen to them and find something useful (which seems consistent to J&L's method of jamming aimlessly, then looking back at what they played and start getting ideas from there). If he had written riffs, he could've gone and be like "hey, listen to this" and play it for them.

>>79391172
Hahahahhah

>>79394527
>>79394527
>damn near 55 and still rocking those curls
good for him

>>79394198

Satriani himself said that Hammet was the worst, least talented, guitarist he's ever had to teach.

I mean me and a bunch of other kids could play most of Hammet's solos at like 15 years old after playing for a year with more accuracy and clarity than he can even after playing the same fucking songs for 30 years.

I mean he should have those songs down 100% flawless every time after playing them so many times. How hard would it be for him to just sit down with a metronome a few hours a day and get all his licks down and ditch the wah pedal?

Does he even booze anymore? Can't even use being drunk on stage as an excuse.

>>79388371
IMPRISONING ME

>>79394605
and thats just it: they tell kirk exactly what to do.
>play rhythm here
>harmonize here
>no kirk, not a fifth harmony, a third
>....kirk do you know where the third is
>goddammit kirk just play the rhythm and i'll do the harmony instead
>ok kirk solo here for 8 bars
>......yes you can use the wah pedal
>no not for the entire song
>ok lets compromise, you can use it if you play something other than the penatonic scale
>kirk why do you have 3 wah pedals hooked together
>.....fine just....fucking fine

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>>79391618
Yep, it's really sad watching the 50+ year old assholes Kerry King and Tom Araya headbanging on the stage in front of 2,000 people on a rainy night in Seattle playing some DEATH TO KILL US ALL and SATAN RULE UNIVERSE songs from their RIPPING THROUGH HER GUTS AND THROAT 2013 album. Kerry simply plays his mean-looking guitar really fast and that's it, using the same old distortions he learned back in the 80s.

Megadeth is slightly better, but simply because they rely on social messages and war thematic which they tend to tell in a more calm, collected style.

>>79394639
yeah even the guy from counting crows is better than kirk

>>79391172


Dat Lars

>>79392481
I don't whether you follow them now or not, but he really stepped the fuck up these past two years, he did a good job on the new album and his live performances are good enough. He cares.

>>79394688
ALIMONY

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>>79394701

Some kind of LIFESTYLE

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>>79394639
>Satriani

>YOU FLUSH IT OUT, YOU FLUSH IT OUT

what did they mean by this?

>>79394745
If you watch any of the tuning room vids from like, 6 years and prior you can see just how BORED and fed up Lars was of playing the same shit over and over.

He stopped caring because he honestly wasn't feeling it anymore. Nowadays he seem to have caught his second wind.

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>>79394831

>>79392523

>Nigger Jew qho cant play anything for shit, better than actual musicians

Get the fuck out of here

Kirk has the worst, most embarrassing vibrato I've ever heard. It's unbearable, all shaky and uneven and fast. Why didn't he try to develop it? He's had plenty of time and did nobody told him it was fucking awful? Even Hetfield's, who plays rhythm 99% of the time is better

>>79394879

>Lars
>Kirk
>actual musicians

>>79394860
On their official YT channel, you have "the making of" of every song from the last album, he seems really enthusiastic and even overrules James a lot when it comes to composition.

>>79394831
Explain how satch is meme buddy

>>79394707
I know right. It's not just Slayer either, in many of the older generation metal bands I see that the band members try to make music or write lyrics or even act like they are still in their 20s - just because that's what the retarded fans expect them to do. But you can easily make out that they're actually really bored of it. I feel kinda sad about it.

>>79394932
I really liked the worship music album from anthrax. Its fun and feels like theyre having fun doing it.

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>>79391156

But after ...AJFA

Dave literally went into his bunker, drew up blueprints, and a year later came out with a fucking Nuclear Bomb called Rust in Peace.

Have you heard it?...

IT BLOWS ANY METAL ALBUM OUT OF THIS ORBIT TO THIS DAY

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>>79395005
Any thrash album, maybe. But luckily for us theres other genres of metal

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>>79394453
>its not that hard

>>79395005
>back when dave was still coked up and strung out
The good old days i tell ya

>>79395005
Painkiller is better desu

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>>79392819
>Slash can barely play the guitar

WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS?

>>79390587
>Jason seems like a genuinely nice guy who cares about music and not much else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFiTkWPZ8xU
Jason always comes across as someone who just wants to be doing something musical.

I hated the part where Lars and Bob Rock went to see Jason and were shocked when he didn't stick around to hang out with them.

>>79383748
Metallica for becoming such a shit band after Cliff Burton died.

>>79395086
He means that slash plays the same licks in the same blues scale with the same effect

>>79395005
Im not saying Megadeth didnt have its moments. But to prefer megadeth to Metallica is only for contrarians and their hipster/metal cred. Same with hating Load.

Just to add to the hipster injury, Gaga gave a rock performance this weekend that was better than most female metal leads that people like to suck their dicks.

Regardless both Metallica and Megadeth seem to be in better shape lately and thats good.

>>79395086
To be honest, Slash is a lot like Kirk. They can do pentatonic scales with speed and that's about their extent of their ability. However, Slash is more creative, I think. His solos can be very melodic and have themes, as opposed to just shredding for the sake of it.

>>79394181

KIMB - Good, with poor production
Peace - Fantastic
SFSGSW - Great
Rust - Fantastic
CTI - Great
Youth - Great
CW - Good
Risk - Good, albeit very different.
TWNAH - Good
TSHF - Great, best of the post-2000 era.
UA - Good
Endgame - Decent
13 - Bland/Poor
Super Collider - Shit
Dystopia - Good

They have a pretty good consistency to me anyway.

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>>79395104
>AJFA
>shit

>>79391156
>Load is a great alternative rock album and was only despised by metal heads who cant comprehend anything beyond metal.

Or for people who remember when Metallica wasn't soft and did what they were good at.

>>79395005
Rust in Peace is Megadeth's masterpiece imo.

My other two favorite albums are Countdown and Youthanasia. Cryptic Writing has great tunes too.

Peace Sells and So far so good are great but i hate the productions in those.

Guess I will be called something of a casual by my taste.

>>79395086
He is by no means a great performer. He is a really great rock composer. While not incredibly technical November Rain solo is one of the best guitar solos in history.

>>79395159
>abloobloo more metal plz!

>>79390809
>Megadeth all kept making shit edgelord metal
Cryptic Writings is a good album.

>>79395163
I almost fully agree, but Countdown is just as good as RIP in my books

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>>79393250
>>79393450
>>79393501

>>79395152
Contrarian opinion.

>no bass
>over produced, polished clean sound like a glam metal band but heavier
>bloated, even compared to MOP, which had 3 8 minute songs on it

>>79395163
>>79395218
>>79395223
Countdown and cryptic writings have the best mainstream megadeth songs

>>79395201
Yes, because clearly Metallica isn't good at anything else.

inb4 B-but they sell out arenas! They're so famous and rich!

>>79395256
>prog metal
>not bloated
Buddy...thats literally what they were trying to do. But yeah the bass and mix is awful. Also
>implying glam metal isnt awesome

>>79393831
I dunno, maybe because he wants a big house for himself, another one for his mom, scholarships and easy life for his kids etc.

>>79395223
Yeah, kind of hard to pick one. Rust in Peace still gets my vote though.

It's one of those albums where i couldn't believe my ears when I first listened to it. Same happened to me when i was like 14 and listened to Ride the Lightning.

>>79395286
Considering the black album, load and to some extent reload are great records, yes, they are good at other stuff than metal

>>79395256
Its fine, Mustaine, someday you will enter into the hall of rock too.

>>79395314
But RTL isnt even their best, probably their 3rd best after MOP and AJFA, in no particular order

>>79393925
Dave might "technically" be better than James and Lars, but why does it matter when he can't creat a hit that'll put butts in seats? He literally produces one memorable song per 5 albums.

>>79395295
>thats literally what they were trying to do
Exactly

>implying glam metal isn't awesome

It's awesome when Def Leppard and Motley Crue do it, not when a "proud to be different" thrash metal band caves and starts doing it too.

>>79395348
It's my favorite though. There's no objectivity when it comes to music my man.

>>79392630
He hated solos. He told Kirk to fuck off with his solo style on the Black Album, because it,s too long, not radio-friendly enough.

watch the Black Album documentary. Rock is a fucking cunt it. I guess he realized it at some point, and then made sure the next docs would not show him in any disreputable light.

The reason Metallica went to shit, is the Black Album tour. It was incredibly profitable. So the execs made sure it wouldn't fucking end. They visited some cities many times on the same fucking tour. Let that sink in for a second. I understand afterward they wanted nothing but to lazy it out.

The tour burned the creative talent in Metallica.

>>79395336
>they are good at other stuff than metal
Sure they are...

>>79395355
Production sound doesnt mean youre a part of that scene and you know. Some hair metal records had the greatest production of the time. The drums on Dr. Feelgood are GOAT and thats why the drums on the black album were the best theyve ever sounded on a metallica record

>>79395137
Slash is leagues better and can come up with a ton of solos that are never the same. His variance within using blues pentatonics is incredible, he's definitely one of the best in his game.

>>79395395
Maybe they were burned out as far as trash metal goes. Load has some really creative moments. It's just, you know, not metal.

>>79395416
It meant they were becoming more commercial. They even had a music video for One, whereas before they didn't do one because they didn't want to be part of that bullshit, and I can understand why because music videos are almost always stupid and pointless.

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>>79395119
>>79395137
>>79395168

Pure autism. Slash sounds great on guitar and has created some of the most memorable riffs and solos ever, why are you triggered if he doesn't fit your taste or does some autistic thing with wires wrong? Seriously.

>>79395395
>The tour burned the creative talent in Metallica.
They also were doing massive quantities of coke, pussy and booze.

It's nothing short of a miracle no one died.

>>79395469
>one of the best at using the same scale for 30 years
FTFY

>>79395493
Name One (1) aside from sweet child of mine

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https://youtu.be/qPX-GmqcGNQ?t=378

Can you tell when Kirk takes over the solo?

>>79395493
>why are you triggered if he doesn't fit your taste or does some autistic thing with wires wrong

It sounds like you're triggered and being autistic about someone criticizing a guitarist you like.

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>>79395416
>and thats why the drums on the black album were the best theyve ever sounded on a metallica record
i still have a RIP magazine with the Best Of 1994.

Lars was awarded best drummer of the year. kek.

>>79395493
>triggered the slash baby
Everyone who starts playing guitar idolizes slash for 15 minutes until they find one of the myriad better guitarists out there

>>79395493
If you read my comment you ll see I believe he is a great composer. Just not a master performer.

>>79395559
Tbqh the drum SOUND on the black album (not the actual fills) are some of the best ever recorded

>>79395348
Fight Fire with Fire
Creeping Death
Call of Ktulu

Those alone make RTL better than MOP.

>>79395559
Disgusting

>>79393000
>Peace Sells was the first Megadeth song I ever heard and got me into the band
Thank you Vice City.

>>79395573
>>79395538
I'm not even his big fan, tbf.

>>79395606
But
>battery
>sanitarium
And
>orion
Is the better instrumental. Call of chtulu was d must anyway

>>79395518
I mean the evidence is there that he doesn't do the same shit over and over again like Kirk does, all I'm saying.
Look at anything Slash has been a part of and he always comes up with solos with their own character.

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Who team LARS here?

Slash is like hard rock's Ronnie Wood. Technically sloppy as fuck and he's always drunk but every once in a while he can't co-write a good song

>>79395667
I agree, hes better than kirk and has some nice melodies but put him in g3 and see what happens

>>79393789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmmr9uNDeT0

>>79395697
I don't hate the guy. I used to until i started reading more and watching more BTS videos of him. Like James said: "Lars' an easy target".

>>79395754
They're taking the piss. It's what mates do.

Why do Lars and James hate bass so much? Even when they had Cliff the bass was almost inaudible in the mixes.

>>79395818
Cause metal bass mirrors the guitar 99% of the time

>>79391378
this desu

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>>79395201

LOVE IS A 4 LETTER WORD

what did they mean by this?

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'Tallica with Gaga on lead Vocals.

It was awesome. They should do an album and a tour.

Atlas Rise is Top 10 Metallica song. Fight me.

>>79392690
>Buddy Rich can't play fast
am I being memed here

>>79395818
What's the point of the bass when you have a tuned-up rhythm guitar?

>>79396010

This, just turn up the bass in the guitar channel if the bass is just gonna play what the guitar plays.

Now the Black Album, that's where the Bass rules.

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Why can't /tv/ have the same quality discussion about television & film that it can about the Metallica discography?

Why is no one here derailing with Trump and cuckold spam?

>>79395961
Priest was in talks to record stuff with Gaga some months ago. The guy is a really big fan of gaga, and gaga of judas priest.

>>79395524
>november rain
>paradise city
>estranged
>don't cry
>civil war
>coma

literally all recognizable and world famous

>>79396010

Because Cliff Burton and Robert Trujillo are the ones playing bass

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>>79396047
Funnily enough, 3 weeks in and people have realized the worlds not gonna end nor does it revolve around him and cuckoldry

>>79395961
the trashier she looks the harder my dick gets.

>>79395986
stop

>>79396052


I mean Gaga killed it in Moth of Flame, or whatever it's called. Took a mediocre sounding song and gave it balls.

>>79396060
also welcome to the jungle.

>>79395961
>It was awesome.
It was when James' mic started working, halfway into the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP74i8vjFn8

Also, cool how the tranny only announced Lady Gaga.

>>79396099
B-but, 15 year old can learn that, therefore it's not good!

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>>79395524
That T-2 song wasn't that bad wasn't it now?

>>79396047
Do you think we could have the same type of educated discussion with Adele, Justin Bieber, Beyonce and the current rap nigger? No.

Then what makes you think that your shit modern movies deserve quality discussion? Do you want to discuss John Witch 2, the new marvel flick, the new FaF movie? Meme flicks deserve meme discussion and shitposting.

Im always up to discuss older movies anyways. Hell, yesterday I rewatched Of Mice and Men and Barry Lyndon.

>>79396119
James is 60 yo, he can't give that energy anymore, Gaga can though.

wtf i love gaga now


also, mods sticky this
>>79396047
leftshits don't listen to metal

>>79395961
With another drummer of course. And Newsted on Bass.

>>79396149
What energy? His mic literally didn't work for like half of the song. He was fuming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGEEGYKg4NI

>>79396119
gg grammys

To tell you the truth I was hoping they were gonna do The Memory Remains together, but that was great too. It was a pleasant surprise.

>>79396212
Don't blame him. How do you fuck up this hard? Didn't they rehearse?

>>79396212
>He was fuming.
Good, that's the Hetfield we need.

>>79396060

>no locomotive

pleb lord

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>>79396296
I lost my virginity to that.

>>79396239
>To tell you the truth I was hoping they were gonna do The Memory Remains together
With Gaga only humming the entire song? What a terrible idea.

>>79392537
He can't do a drum roll even if his life was depended on it, his drumming is the absolute basic, he's more of a producer, he can tell what sounds good and add something to it.

>>79396359
She could sing a verse or two.

>>79395883
Notes-wise, yeah, but not in audio frequency. Unless they're asking the bassists to play everything one octave higher than normal, which is nonsense.

>>79396212
>I'm mad so let me throw my guitar a random roadie
Rockstars really are all prima donnas

>>79396337

muh nigga

>girl i liked at uni hated on all rock
>put on locomotive at a party in my dorms
>she starts dancing and getting into it
>ended up getting my first bj off her

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Ok, so we can agree that this is the second best Metallica album, which one's the best and third best one though?

>>79396459
was it good

>>79396492
MoP or AJFA best. RTL prolly third but i really lik the black album

>>79396492
I agree thats one of the best rock albums of the last 20 years.

>>79396492
>Ok, so we can agree that this is the second best Metallica album
I would never agree to that.

>>79396047
either /pol/ are underage in their "metallica sucks, listen to real metal" or sjws don't hear metal, other than blackgaze.

>>79396119
oh boy

i'm loving this more than i probably should

too bad about the mic, i would be pissed too

>>79396492
It's great, but guess what - Reload is better.

>>79391887
>>79391688
>>79391626
>>79391535
alright i went back and listened to reload twice and it's alright, it's not great, it's a good album, but load is garbage

>>79396492
In terms of production, yeah, it goes like this:
>Black Album
>Load
>Kill em All
>Flemming Rasmussen Stuff
>St Anger
>ReLoad
>Death Magnetic

Haven't heard their new album

>>79396494

Its been almost 6 years and i could still probably rub one out to the thought

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>>79396784
>In terms of production

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>>79396119
>the way she moves at 0:25
so primitive yet so hot

>>79396678
>>79396119
>2:05
hey that's pretty good

>>79396761
I feel the opposite, ReLoad has some nice songs, but overall it's all filler material, not to mention overproduced. I mean, they don't play the songs live because they can't figure out how to make them sound good.

>>79396834
As if metal wasn't fedora enough; but yeah, that's what I think.

In terms of composition:
>RTL
>AJFA
>Black Album
>Kill em All
>MoP
>Load
>Death Magnetic
>St Anger
>ReLoad