This was a hell of a movie.

What's the hook? I just saw a trailer and it looks like the most emotionless film ever.
>teenager's dad dies
>brother become guardian
What else?

>>79383771
casey affleck accidentally burns his down with his three young children inside

>>79383771

He's been through some awful shit and everybody in his home town suspects him of being a monster, that's why returning to take over guardianship of his nephew is so painful to him.

>>79383771
It's kind of a "spiky" movie.

There are scenes that really get to you and are well acted and followed up by the ho-hum of daily life which is what it was going for.

It's a "real" film in how it portrays life in a way that doesn't necessarily conform to narrative tendencies but is till satisfying.

Anyone else think the nephew was a complete faggot? I would have been like " yeah you're on your own lol"

>>79383925

You sound like the faggot here.

WE ARE STENTORIAN

>>79383925
He was pretty obnoxious.

>>79383771
It's a character movie, not really a lot happens in the story. It's just a depressed guy coping with the world after tragedy ruined his life.

>>79383925
That's what I like about this movie, all the characters are assholes. Not a single person is really a "good person", it's very realistic.

>>79384230
how was kyle chandlers character an asshole? he was the nicest guy?

>>79383925
Seemed like a rather typical teenage boy to me.

>>79384273
He was cheating on his wife

>>79384330
what when did that happen? i thought she was just an alcoholic

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>>79384330
That doesn't sound right.

why didnt casey affleck just kill himself after he failed killing himself in the police station? why didnt he ever attempt it again?

>>79384381
Come to think of it, did the alcoholic ex wife even react to his death?

>>79384429
no at first not because she was already living somewhere else with her new christian husband. but chad wrote her an email i think

>>79384284
That's why he's a faggot. He's drowning in pussy and we were all virgins at his age.

>>79384422
it was heavily implied that he didn't because of his relationship to chadboy, shown in the scene where he his brother doesnt let him leave withput saying goodbye to chad

>>79384422
Because it was a brief moment of being overwhelmed emotionally. After that he sort of just dies inside and surrenders to mostly apathy and going through the motions of living. He also had a brother and nephew still.

Also a lot of people that try to kill themselves regret it later if they survive.

>>79384381
>>79384394
I thought it was implied he fucked his Asian doctor?

I love the part where Casey Affleck takes the time to see his brother's corpse, see his face one last time and says goodbye. Meanwhile the nephew is totally unaccustomed to the idea lost loved one and immediately nopes the fuck out of there.

Pure kino

>>79384489
>>79384495

I dont know. if he was as broken as he seemed to be, and if you kill your three children, I think the normal thing would be to blow your brains out. it almost seems expected. maybe i side with the people who thought he was a monster, because he was actually able to go on living, as fucked up as he was. I mean ask yourself, if someone you knew knew like a friend accidentally killed their own children, do you think they would actually be able to live with that?

>>79384514
what made you think that? because she was at his funeral?

>>79384514
No i don't think so. And it isn't mentioned in the wikipedia plot summary.

>>79384559
>"Dr. Bethany was always very kind to him"
>His wife storming out of the room and Joe flirting with Dr. Bethany

"I should burn in hell for the things I said you"- Michelle Williams character

>I should burn in hell
>Burn in Hell
>Burn

;_;

>>79384551
like i said, the whole film evolves around the fact that he has this kind of guilt of taking guardianship of his nephew because he cares for him (implied by the fishing scenes) while at the same time having the conflict of being afraid to take care of him and accidently doing a mistake (hence he is always so twitchy when with him and almost driving over him by accident)
that was the whole point of chad

> I can't fight it

>>79384422

He didn't want to hurt his family and ex-wife any further. His brothers emotionally blackmails him in one scene by making his son hug him before he leaves

>>79384551
His mistake was one that even a sober person could have made. Fireplaces are stupid to even have these days.

And I think everyone is different.

He has family ties still, he mentions he is a christian. I think it makes sense that he wouldn't kill himself after he came to his senses. It would make sense if he did kill himself. Either way it's understandable to me. Me personally I think I would kill myself. I couldn't handle that kind of burden.

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>>79384606
I wonder if that was intentional.

Manchester By The Sea and Moonlight were both very good films this year because they have no melodrama in them. They are not fucking lala land hollywood sucking its own dick oscarbait

>and I love youu
>*Lee dies internally a little more*

/ourguy/ won the BAFTA at least right?

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the allegations against affleck were pretty retarded. don't people understand that everyone from MA is a total asshole who acts like this?

Good film, though Margaret was better.

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The scene where he goes to the night store was pretty intense to watch

This is the best movie nominated in the Oscars

>>79385198
He was an asshole to everyone, they might be more sympathetic if he didn't treat them all like shit.

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I cried ;_;

>Louder than bombs

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>Yeah, but I was gonna try to get a
place with an extra room. Or room
for like a pull-out sofa.

>What for?

>In case you wanna visit sometime.
Or if you’re lookin’ at colleges in
Boston or somethin’ and you wanna
stay overnight...

>I’m not goin’ to college.

>Then I'll have an extra room for
all my shit. Do we have to talk
about this now?

hold me lads

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>Can I have some money?

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kinda off topic, but this has been bothering me quite a bit. what move is this from? i know it's been edited, but i remember seeing it somewhere.
thanks in advance.

This movie was pure kino and MOTY 2017

>>79387005

shawshank redemption

>>79387060
i feel stupid now. thanks.

>tfw casey will probably get booed if he wins best actor at the oscars

>>79387108
Why??

>>79386979
He only ever does it when Lee starts to treat him like a kid when he is trying to discuss things like the boat and him moving and Lee shuts him down. Even the most maladjusted autist should be able to see he's simply a kid who has had to grow up to fast. His mother (when around) was an alcoholic/crazy, his father has a condition that predisposes to him dying suddenly which is exactly what happened and the kid knew it too. His father went into great detail preparing for his own death. The only thing he didn't count on was Lee not being able to care for his nephew. Even the kid expected Lee would be his guardian.

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>why can't you stay?
>...I can't beat it

There's so many little moments like this on the movie, on a rewatch I cried twice as many as I did during the first watch

I've not seen it. I don't think I could stand two hours of Manc accents
>Ayy fookin mad fer it arr kid fookin Hacienda layk

Yeah I'll pass

>>79387163
He's a rapist

>>79383925
He's a 16 year old with no mother, and a father that just died. What the fuck would you expect ? He played it well. You're probably just a bitter virgin mad that his character was banging like 3 14-16 year olds daily.

>>79387306
>i cant beat it
Got me right in the feels.

Also, him quietly mumbling please as the police wrestled the gun from him.

This entire movie was an emotional masterpiece and I was not ready.

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>>79382562
it was one of the most depressing movies i've ever seen.

also the most subtle depictions of depression on film.

Only one scene constituted as a hint towards Casey Affleck suffering from it, and its when he says to his nephew near the end.

>"I can't beat it.....I can't beat it"

It's a real as fuck movie too, nothing's really sugarcoated or twisted narrative to conform to some traditional storytelling. It's just life.

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>theres nothing there

>i cant fight it

>police station

>>79387538
There's an authentic feeling to it. The scene whee the kid is just sitting there watching the Bruins play trying not to think about his mothers husband shutting down them trying to reconnect was subtle but really sad.

>>79387665
the more i think about scenes of just regular dialogue seemingly between characters even when it is isn't emotional in contrast to the most dramatic scenes makes me realise this movie is more kino than I thought.

he practically never smiled again after the night he got drunk and played table tennis with his friends than his house burnt down.

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>>79385325
Lucky him that he didn't do it like that. Good way to become a vegetable.

Perfect movie but can't recommend it to anyone. I managed to watch it from the frame of connecting with the character and being appreciative for the things that I have so it was in a way a very warming experience but I guess that most of the people would go depressed after watching it.

>>79383925

Consider that in all his teenage angst and while going through his own ,things which are extremely harsh, he still never went in the place of shouting and blaming his uncle for what happened which makes him alright to me.

Also his and afflec's relationship was also very tragic, just look at the beginning of the movie, how close they were and how much fun they had together and all of this was stolen from them by what happened. You can still see their past in their present day relationship, they feel close but of course their actions go through a filter of a tragedy.

>>79384422
He made some sort of promise to his brother and to himself, he also believes that he doesn't deserve this kind of salvation. At the police station he let himself be overwhelmed but after that he decided to carry the burden of what happened. I also thought that he wanted to commit a second-hand suicide by getting beaten up in bars but I guess he just wants to be punished physically as well (well, at least it's just my take on it).

>>79384841
>*Lee dies internally a little more*

Mind telling your take as to why? Because he doesn't think he deserves love or doesn't want to remember his old life?

If you like this, go check out some other Lonergan kino like You Can Count on Me..sorta similar to Manchester with a comfy small town feel

>>79390333

Margaret is his masterpiece.

>>79390365

haven't seen it, but i've been meaning to try get my hands on the extended cut.

>>79390279
>Mind telling your take as to why? Because he doesn't think he deserves love or doesn't want to remember his old life?

A combination of both I'd say. I think he understands that his kids were the best thing he would ever do and the best thing it would ever come from his relationship with Randi and he killed them all. He says "there is nothing there" meaning that their love won't give any fruits now, it would be just dragging her to his miserable existence. Knowing that it's impossible, it would be easier for him to keep believing Randi hates him.

>>79385325
>look up that sweater
>its a real chain dive bar
>exactly the kind of place the young lee would go drinking and buy fucking merch from
>in the contemporary stuff, nothing with logos or places

KINO
I
N
O

>>79390480
>He says "there is nothing there" meaning that their love won't give any fruits now

I don't think he says that about their relationship though, before that she was saying "you can't die", I think that "there is nothing there" isn't really a thought that he tried to convey, he was going for the feeling behind it, like there is nothing that can be done now, there is no meaning behind redemption of his sin and moving on with his life, his life is now being a husk and carrying the burden.

On that note I think it's great that you can't truly tell what he was thinking, there were tons of scenes and phrases like that in the movie and it's one of the things that makes it great, you begin to see people past the characters. Just watched nocturnal animals and I think I understood too much for what director was going for.

>>79385325

Let's settle this for once.

The gun has no bullets or it has the safety switch on?

I go for the second one.

>>79390700
It seemed like the safety was on. I seem to remeber him fudging around with the gun very quickly after stealing it but couldn't figure out how to turn the safety off.

>>79390700
Safety+no round in the chamber

He puts the gun to his head immediately, without doing anything, it clicks and he is like oh shit i remember movies, then he trys to fix it

Also the reaction of his dad and brother are the best thing in the whole scene

>tfw I didn't even read the description of the movie or see any trailers
I just thought he was an asshole with aspergers in the beginning until it was slowly revealed how he ended up how he did. Almost like reverse character development.

>>79390771

Someone should do a webm after he left the police office and goes for the gun

>>79390680

The few actually emotional conversations I've had in my life, with my parents or breaking up with girls or whatever, have been exactly like that. Everybody interrupting each other and saying thing the others couldn't understand correctly.

This movie captures perfectly how a conversation like that would go down

>>79390823
I've seen some people say they thought it looked like a romantic movie because of the poster and name. Maybe it was by design.

>>79390923

But that means is a good writing or a good directing? You will not write in the screenplay all those interruptions, It's more a thing developed by the director and the actors.

Both things were made by the same guy, but I'm about people telling this should win best screenplay award... I think this is more about actors/director work than the screenplay work

>YOU CAN'T JUST DIE
;_;

>>79390279
I think it was actually a pretty positive film.

All the the adults in the film were like "nope, this guy doesn't want to talk to me... that's the end of that" but then there's this self absorbed teenager who's like "fuck that, drive me to band practice", "I want to bang my girlfriend", "give me money"

It completely forces him to open up. And at the end where he's talking about getting a new place with a spare room for him to stay over and how he's clearly going to push him to go to college. That's why the brother set it up so he was guardian. He didn't want to die and his brother to give up because there was no one left to care about him or for him to care for.

>>79390279
He dies a little more during that whole scene because it reminds him of everything that made him happy. He has spent every day for years trying to repress his grief, and then she reminds him of his past life all over again

Its been a long time since a movie is discussed properly by /tv/
So we can all agree this is /öūrkìño/ right?

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>>79387306
>>79387480
>I can't beat it

goddamn that hit me hard

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>>79390594
>>79385325
it's the same bar as the one he gets into the fight at after he bumps into randi

you can see one of the t-shirts hanging up on the wall in the background

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>>79392110

>>79387306
>>79387480
whats the context

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>he's not crying
>cause I know how to handle him
ff to brother's funeral
>Randi's new kid won't stop crying
>new husband takes the kid
>he doesn't know how to handle him
>Lee notices it

>>79392193
he's explaining to the kid why he can't stay and the arrangements he has put in place for him to live in Manchester. Then when the kid is asking him why he can't stay there with him he says "I can't beat it" in reference to the horrible sadness and depression he has that it magnified even more by being in the town the greatest tragedy of his life took place in.

>>79383821

No, you dingdong. It's painful because he had to go back to the place where his kids burned down.

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>>79391879
Yeah it will probably start appearing on both recommended films image macros and bait "reddit tier" image macros soon. The past year hasn't been too bad for good movies.

What was the point of the scene at the end with the old guy talking about his father dying while tuna fishing?

>>79392242
why did she bring the baby to the fucking funeral???

this is the one thing I was like holy shit that is not a realistic thing a compassionate person would do

>>79392242
Oh shit son. There's littke things like that I miss all the time, I need to give it a rewatch.

>>79384422

He went through months of forced therapy.

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>>79392251
Would you say that he started the fire?

>>79383925
>it's an "anon is jealous that Lucas Hedges has two girlfriends and he has none" thread

>>79392288
Could be some subtle "please forgive me and let me back in your life" message or maybe they just couldn't find a sitter

>>79392288
I don't think it's that unrealistic. The husband walked way with him when it was clear it wouldn't shut up, which is the polite thing to do.

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>Patrick gets to plow this every night
>still has an ugly blonde side chick

Why?

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>>79392377
It's stupid how Chad's get insanely hot 10/10s to be their gfs, but then they get 6/10 mistresses, like pic related and the not-so-autistic-chad-kid-of-the-autistic-town-of-Manchester-by-the-sea

>>79392377

As another anon put it yesterday, she was acting like a mother which is not what Patty wanted.
If you're asking how she was acting like a mother

>she freaks out a little because the boys are talknig about Star Trek
>she tells Lee to fuck off to other room because it's not appropriate for Patty to hear him talk about his daddy's funeral

>>79391879
It literally cannot be more /ourfilm/ than this

>>79392345
>ginger
>having 2 girlfriends
>having any friends at all

This song

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2aXtLtfv2bE

>>79383925
>shag two girls on a regular basis
>have an abortion face
>have insane mother
>have dead father
>have to deal with uncle that killed his children
>still manage to be the less autistic charactet of White Autistic People: The Movie

He seems pretty cool in my book, son

>>79392377
because she's an annoying cunt who would make his life miserable if he married her because of le small town high school sweethearts

that's why lee bans her from the house and enables him to bang the blonde one.

Eh, the whole movie felt like a big lowbrow overly emotional easy-to-watch-on-a-sunday-afternoon movie. It's just one of those flicks that separates the real movie buffs from plebs.

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>>79392521

>>79385325
women will literally never understand that scene

>>79392278

I think it was to show that Lee built some resistance against small talk because of the time he spent with his nephew.

>>79392278
that life continues on with the meaningless shit he dealt with before his brother died. it's like the guy telling him his sister-in law or whatever is coming over and he has to take the car in when all he has to say is yes bring the stopper tomorrow.

>>79387660
It's actually
>i can't beat it

:3

>>79392242

>teenager doesnt get why his uncle doesnt want to live down the street where his 3 children died in a fire he caused

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>>79386909
>>79390594
>>79392242
3 days, it's been 3 days since I watched it. Why am I still feeling suicidal!

>>79392377

BEcause she's basically Gretchen Mol's character in highschool

>>79382562
Just watched it last night, it was a really good movie but i'm not used to watching this kind of stuff and now i feel depressed. Back to capeshit i guess.

>>79393509
You've taken a good first step into the land of real kino, my little anon. Do not shy away just yet, this is what real cínémá feels like.

>>79392242
Great catch.

>>79382562
I wonder when will /tv/ turn against this movie. Anyways im glad i see actual discussion about some movie and this was the best movie of the year and one of my all time favourites. Why isnt Lonergan doing more movies?

>>79394426
this one took him three years to write, he is literally autistic about detail

>>79392377

This really put my almonds in nuclear. I couldn't stand that guy since then fuck.

/r/ webm of the suicide attempt scene

>please...

For years I was like when is it going to be casey's time dude is talented as fuck. Honestly didnt expect a performance like this, I fucking love this movie

>>79382562
is this a kimi no na wa rip off

>>79394505
Didnt know that. I knew he was arguing with studio abou Margaret a lot. Is it worth watching?

>>79382562

It was alright.
I'll probably never watch it again.

one thing I've had a hard time grasping/believing is how he seems to still be a pariah in his hometown like a decade later, even if it's one of those small towns where everyone seems to know each other, seems kinda far fetched

plenty of fire/accidents/deaths happen every day, do you remember that one dude whose family died 10 years ago?

>>79394920

You should remember the wife. At the end she says how awful things he said to him, so maybe she also said bad things to many people in the town, mostly to other women.

KidChad gf's mother wasn't in the town 10 years ago so she was going for him, but other women doesn't like him at all, like the woman in the fishing boat company.

>>79394822
no idea, can't bring myself to watch an Anna Paquin film since being forced to study the Piano in high school

>>79382562
I liked it but it was ultimately rather bland and unforgettable.

>>79382562
are the main characters played by actual mancunians?

>>79394920
I was talking to my friends about this after the movie finished and yeah this is one of the things that came up
>>79394961
but also maybe he did some other crazy grief related shit in the town (i.e. more bar fights) that caused everyone to turn on him. I did get the sense that him closing off from people was also a way of not dealing with it, and if provoked he could lash out crazily (like the guy who says nice parenting).

When I spoke to my mum she felt very strongly that the character came across as having a violent streak (that existed before the accident then just manifested more after).

>>79394961
In one of the reviews I read it said it was five years since the accident.

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>>79385325
this scene got me

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>>79385325
>he's father was right there
>he was so shocked that he could not help but stand there looking at his son becoming a mess

this movie is so fucking kino

>>79396102
wasn't it his uncle?

>>79396102
>>79385325
why didn't the gun go off when he pulled the trigger the first time?

Just watched it yesterday.
I havent seen kino like this in a while.
The fucking details and character interaction and the acting. Purest form of a great moviemaking in a while.

>>79396210
god stopped it

>>79396210

safety was on

which is actually a mistake because US cops never have the safety on (lets them shoot negros more quickly)

>>79396210

safety switch, pleb

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>>79392377

>>79396291
this bitch was the official gf right?
holy shit those tits

>>79396273
>>79396271
Man I thought that at first but was confused because I assumed if a safety switch was on you wouldn't be able to depress the trigger fully (like how other switches work)

I don't live in a country where guns are widely used outside of on farms

>>79395480

You're right, unforgettable movie right there.

>>79396271
U mean a mistake by the director or by british policemen ?

felt like this years place beyond the pines desu

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>>79394654
without subtitles

>>79396519
Fugggg

>>79394776
It really is amazing how much of a better actor he is than his brother.

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>>79396783
Jesus ;_;

>>79396866
they don't even look the same.