Apocalypto

It was made by a nazi. thats NOT cool

>>79374084
i wouldn't recommend punching that nazi.

>>79374003
Yes, great movie that is old now and is mentioned just about as much as other old great movies.

>>79374003
>gr8
kill yourself faggot

>>79374084
he put out enough good movies to be forgiven

What, like, critically? Because it's not that good.

From an academic perspective it's completely wrong almost to the point of being offensive. I won't go into details about all the problems, but the main issues is that unlike other films, like Brave heart or The Patriot, which are obvious works of fiction based on real events, this movie tries to present itself as historical fiction in an area most people aren't familiar with. Basically, it tries to make itself seem more genuine than it actually is. If you read anything about William Wallace you know Braveheart is a massive Hollywood dramatization. Apocalypto is...kind of correct, but only in the way that it portrays its setting and not the way it all actually fits together. There was human sacrifice, sun worship, etc, but almost everyone lived in a major city, there were no small villages, the extent to which sacrifice was performed wasn't that great, etc. The movie also has really Eurocentric view with the ending, like the Aztecs are all painted as barbarians that the Spanish are coming to save/purge when the reality is that the conquest completely destroyed an entire culture. There are parts of their society we just don't know about because the Spanish destroyed it because they just wanted gold and slaves.

From an actual film perspective the movie is kind of corny. It starts off like a historical drama which is cool, but then turns hollywood halfway through. Like, at the exact "climax" moment where the priest stops the ritual the movie devolves into nonsense. It basically becomes Home Alone in the Yucatan with booby traps for the comical bad guys.

It's a pretty movie, it looks nice, the setting feels cool even if it's kind of a facade, and it's definitely a fun watch just, you know, as a movie, but if you're meaning to get technical about it, it's not that great.

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>>79374859
>there were no small villages
There literally were no small villages, or is this just a malformed sentence?

>>79374859
It seems like you're desperately trying to justify the movie being inaccurate as a reason it's bad. It's not working

>>79374859
>spanish are coming to save/purge
The only feeling I got from those ships was ominous

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Does that man know it's not safe to walk down the steps without a head?

It's a good movie but it's historically inaccurate as shit and the inaccuracies are there to kinda justify the horrible stuff the amerindians went through.

>>79374859
>this movie tries to present itself as historical fiction in an area most people aren't familiar with
>Unless people really really loves and knows about a setting, everything must seen obviously fakeish, or else someone could take it as real event that happened!
This is you. All your claim is based on this premise, which is utterly stupid coming from a burguerman that has been fed years of germans and middleeaster badguys nonstop for years in every media, not just movies.

In fact, I don't know any clapperman that knows anything about european or south american culture, that didn't saw on movies.

>>79374859
I took it as a film, not a historical production. Stop being a fag and git gud at kinos

>>79374859
you are retarded. The Spanish arn't coming to save or purge them, the Spanish are going to do to the Mayans what the Mayans did to the villagers. It's not a very fucking deep subtext you spaz. Read a book.

>>79374003
Because the director said mean things about Jews, that's why.

>>79374859
I see your point with the home alone antics at the end, but who the fuck do you think is watching this for an accurate depiction of mayan culture? I dont even think the movie tries to assert that, there's no cities listed, no historical figures named, no years, its just an entertaining story, to me it was more about the social dynamics in a tribal society. It centers a lot on body language, bravery, and social structures of society. There's some nice archetypal / spiritual elements with him facing his fear when he turns black, but at no point did I even remotely think this was supposed to true to history, although it's not compeletely made up (as you pointed out human sacrifice really happened)

And as you also mentioned it's beautifully shot, the body paint was well done, and the action scenes were entertainig as hell. The acting was incredibly good considering how little dialogue there was, the music fit the moods well , idk how you can say this isnt a technically good movie, they nailed a lot of things, I dont think its fair to hate just because they took historic license to make an interesting story

>>79374003
It's definitely Mel's best and an all-around fantastic movie.

>>79374859
>>79376079
I guess im going to watch it now

>>79374859
>the extent to which sacrifice was performed wasn't that great,
The Aztecs boasted that they sacrificed 80,000 captives in one day alone. This isn't Spanish claims, this was Aztec claims.

>>79374003
agreed. It's one of my top ten favorites

>>79374859
I feel like this is pasta.

>>79374859
You're one of those mexishits that got insanely butthurt when the movie came out, aren't you? It's not a goddamned documentary.

>>79374859
>>79375685

Yeah, the way the Spanish are (briefly) portrayed portends the end of the Mayans. Hell, the opening quote says it all: "A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within." I disagree with the quote, but it shows Gibson's intention.

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>>79376026
>>79375685
>>79376404
That poster is an idiot. The real reason that scene is retarded is because the Spanish never even met the Mayans of that era. Spain itself was still mostly an Islamic caliphate called al-Andalus.

It'd be like the British colonizing Australia while the isles were still part of the Roman Empire.

Even the means of sacrifice (Aztec-style) and the presence of smallpox (introduced by Europe) were all anachronistic.

The movie was a fucking mess.

>>79375354
Aztec culture was very centralized. There wouldn't be pockets of people living out in the jungle with no idea that cities existed.

>>79375525
>>79375912
>>79376079

I didn't say it was a bad movie because it was inaccurate, I said it's not talked about, in part, because of that. I specifically parsed the "movie" aspect from the "historical" aspect because they're two different views to take. Specifically, on the historical side, it's not discusses because scholars and archaeologists who work in Mesoamerica will tell you almost everything about the film is wrong. There's nothing to discuss or debate because it's just factually incorrect. I'm sure there are other movies that get talked about in a historical context because they represent something which actually happened. Titanic, for all it's deviations from the true event, still went to painstaking lengths to ensure the historical accuracy of things like the boat layout. There's something for people who know the history of the ship to talk about. Whether or not these are good /films/ is kind of independent of that.

Also to the post that said the acting was well done, I've heard that they weren't actually speaking the correct dialect and/or were doing a shitty job at it. I don't know if that's true, although props for trying given few native speakers exist.

>>79375685
>>79376026

This is part of the historical accuracy problem and not so much in whether it's a "good movie". The Aztecs (and there's a big difference between Aztecs and Mayans) didn't do that to villagers for no good reason, and they weren't some corrupt or ungodly society in need of reprisal. Like, if the point of the movie is that they're getting what's coming to them, okay, but again we're getting into the debate of using real historical events (the spanish conquest) to portray fictional cultural upheavals (the Aztecs "getting what they deserve")

>>79374859

All that text and literally no substance.
>It's bad but I can't tell you why

Also the spanish ships at the end were clearly presented as "this isn't gonna end well"

>>79377000
>The Aztecs (and there's a big difference between Aztecs and Mayans) didn't do that to villagers for no good reason, and they weren't some corrupt or ungodly society in need of reprisal

What was the reason?

>>79374003
is shit .

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>>79376404
>I disagree with the quote

This is supposed to portray mayans though isnt it? Isnt it in the Yucatan? At this point the great maya kingdoms had been desolved, some even absorbed by the central mexican Aztecs. There still lived millions (or at least hundreds of thousand) mayas in that area, and many still lived in cities. This was also in the late, late end of yhe maya era, and bad times increased bloodshed and human sacrifices. In the end the Maya were pretty bloodthirsty too, sacrificing left and right. If they are maya, that does not really explain the waterfalls, as there are only subterranean rivers on the Yucatan peninsula.

If the bad goys are aztec, where is it supposed to be then? And even though they did not sacrifice people every day, they did it a lot, especially during bad times or seasonal highlights like when harvesting etc. Also since they were continually at war and expanding, slaves were had and executions had to be done.

>>79377000
What the actualy fuck man, if you care so much about historical accuracy then read a fucking book. 99% of movie goers literally do not care if the dialect the actors are speaking is right, because we dont watch movies to study for our mayan history exam on thursday, you keep making the same argument but its just simply irrelevent to most people

>>79376193
>>79376270
>>79375912
>>79375830
Holy fuck, this is so embarrassing. The movie is like a 6/10 at BEST. The visuals are nice, the story has zero depth, it is insultingly inaccurate, and is easily forgettable.
>There's some nice archetypal / spiritual elements with him facing his fear when he turns black
Holy shit, did you notice that all by yourself? Good job! Btw how are your exams looking now that your in middle school? Not too hard I hope

>>79374859
>The Aztecs
Fucking moron

>>79374003
I loved it right up to the moment where the main character escapes the arrows. Then it just turned slightly stupid.

The human sacrifice part is fucking awesome. The build up to it is perfect.

>>79376149
supposedly the number wasn't actually that high, Aztecs talked themselves up a lot to intimidate rival factions. (though it was still a lot)

but almost 100% of the people who they sacrificed were prisoners of war, in Aztec culture being captured and sacrificed by an opposing faction was essentially the same as dying in battle, it was the highest honor given to soldiers
civilian sacrifice was far less common, what happened a little more often was bloodletting/people offering a body part such as an ear or finger during their rituals

Pedantic, academic whining and nitpicking is a surefire way to miss out on the essence and artistic meaning of a film. You stupid fucks.

>>79374003
because it's incredibly historically inaccurate

>>79378464
>now that your in middle school?

just kill yourself now homeboy, nobody in this thread agrees with you

>>79374859
>but almost everyone lived in a major city, there were no small villages

Nigger what

>>79380710
Why would a work of fiction need to be historically accurate?

>>79378959
Oh, so we have an aztec from the 1400's here giving first hand experience of his cultural norms during the time period. Good to have you here on this BLACKED image board, I'm sure all your knowlege is 100% accurate as well.

>>79380945
I know /tv/ isn't a single person, but I like to bet that the same people who don't mind seeing the mayans and aztecs being portrayed as bloodthirsty savages are the same people who freak out when they watch a movie about say, world war 1- and there are black people fighting alongside white people.

>>79381096
There's a level of acceptable suspension of disblief that fiction needs to maintain there friend.

Putting a brown guy from the same location, in a slightly off time period as other brown guys is still believable.

Putting a black man in a white man's war makes no sense.

If I turned on apocalypto and instead of the spanish arriving on boats, it was Abbos, I'd be sitting here complaining. It's too jarring, too unbelievable.

>>79374859
>Aztecs

LUL
Post disregarded

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It was attacked by critics for no reason other than being made by Gibson.
I remember Tarantino saying it was the best/one of the best films of that year, though I guess a lot of people here won't consider that to be a noteworthy thing.

I got to see it on cinema, feels good man.

real mayans are short and obese, not even warriors like in the movie, it should've been a movie about the siege of Tenochtitlan and it could have made more sense

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>>79374003
>Why isn't this movie more talked about

Yes that is strange.

>>79377000
>they weren't some corrupt or ungodly society in need of reprisal

Cultural relativism? They sacrificed people, they were definitely corrupt and ungodly...
I'm not justifying the destruction of their culture by the Spanish, but what do you mean by this?

>>79378959
>in Aztec culture being captured and sacrificed by an opposing faction was essentially the same as dying in battle, it was the highest honor given to soldiers

ok, I guess you knew what these slaughtered people were thinking, and they were martyrs so it's all good.

Also you're retarded, "historical inaccuracy" is the worst sort of criticism. Discuss the film's merits or lack thereof you pleb

>>79374003
The artistic design was interesting but the story was meh. It isn't historically accurate, either.

Gr8 movie even though the ending devolved into revenge porn. The ending also didn't make any sense not because of the ships but because two of the hunters were so mesmerized by the arriving Spaniards that they didn't kill Jaguar Paw even though it would've taken one swift chop. This guy just eliminated your entire crew including your chief and you're just going to pretend like that doesn't matter anymore?

I also thought that it was a bit nonsensical how the chief killed his top hunter during the waterfall scene. The film had a lot of cool moments though like the guy facing his own death all alone after the snake bite. Excellent film overall even though it requires a lot of suspension of disbelief for something that is very firmly rooted in reality. Fuck the kikes, gas the Jews.

>>79374859
>Aztecs
>Yucatan

opinion disregarded

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>>79384110
>Gr8 movie even though the ending devolved into revenge porn. The ending also didn't make any sense not because of the ships but because two of the hunters were so mesmerized by the arriving Spaniards that they didn't kill Jaguar Paw even though it would've taken one swift chop. This guy just eliminated your entire crew including your chief and you're just going to pretend like that doesn't matter anymore?
nigga you cant be this fucking stupid? what would you do if you were chasing after some guy ready to kill and a god appeared in front of your eyes?

>>79384086
Historical accuracy doesn't sell.
If this was historically accurate it wouldn't have been released.

>>79374859
t. liberal arts student

i love this movie more now

>>79378464
>autist btfo goes complete retard

Go on

>>79374003

It's in my Top 10 of all time.

Gibson is whole-heartedly one of my favorite directors in Hollywood.

>>79377000
>it's not discusses because scholars and archaeologists who work in Mesoamerica will tell you almost everything about the film is wrong

Despite the fact that they had scholars and archaeologists working on the movie who advised everything they did?

>>79384174
They're called Mexica, idiot.

>>79374859
You must be fun at parties.

>>79384110
>Fuck the kikes, gas the Jews.
never go full retard

>>79384491
They're called spics faggot. And they've achieved nothing in terms of historical significance.

>>79384540
back to /r/the_cheeto with you

>>79384515
>born in america, country run by kikes
>raised for a time in america, country run by kikes
>moved to a country that kikes don't have a say in
>comes back and hates kikes
>HE's the one going full retard, not the retards on the chains of the kikes

Okay kike.

I never understand the hubbub about the Spanish ships.

If anything I took it as a reaffirmation of the traditional tribal unit. Jaguar Paw's tribe was very close and intimate, one of those towns where everybody knows everybody and they all look out for one another.

The Mayans on the other hand were caught up in their own dominance. They lived in lavish excess and exerted their power over anything they wanted. They become too big for their own good and, despite them technically being more civilized, were actually more barbaric and beastlike than the tribe from the Jungle who were still living pretty primitively.

In the end this ends implying the Mayans are gonna get fucked. But Jaguar Paw, who the entire movie his only concern was getting back to his wife and children, escapes from the Mayans and the Spaniards and they live a nice traditional life back in the jungle.

Coming from Mel Gibson the messages of not losing your traditional values and the bonds of the family aren't surprising.

>>79384540
What an ignorant fuck you must be. Shoo.

>>79384556
>familiar with reddit boards
>telling others to visit reddit
>obviously not trying to shill the site or anything

Okay kike.

>>79377000
I dunno man everyone loves gladiator. That is about as historically accurate

>>79384600
kek where do you think you are cunt?
>"oh no i'm triggered by someone saying spic and pointing out the truth"

i've probably watched this more than any other movie

>>79384677
my nigga

>>79384605

People get really touchy about tribal people for some fucking reason. You can do whatever the fuck you want to white history and fictionalize it in every which way but dare to misrepresent the proclaimed truth of Abos, Native Americans, Eskimos, any of the Mesoamerican tribes and there's a shitstorm.

>>79384540
they're called future drug cartel members

>>79384222
Jaguar Paw was on his knees, weak from the recent arrow to the chest and exhausted from running. He could barely move. It's not like the Maya didn't have boats themselves so although the massive ships would have been a sight to behold, it wouldn't have been enough to stop you from quickly beheading the guy who just murdered your entire crew. They could have made it so that he was still hiding in the forest and THEN the hunters got distracted by the ships but to have them all in the wide open beach when the hunters decide to stop attacking was a bit ridiculous, even more so than then all the voodoo shit like the little girl predicting Jaguar Paw's rise and the eclipse happening the exact moment that he was placed on the altar.

The film was amazing, historians can go choke on a fat dick, this is fiction, not a documentary you faggots, you're the worst, go suck DeGrasse's dick.

>>79374003
>in my opinion
that's why

>>79384692
Because people get butthurt that they're ancestors were completely worthless and added nothing to the human race until their betters came along and either wiped them out or forced them to adapt.

>abos live in aus for 10K plus years
>achieve nothing beyond banging sticks together and using basic "paints" to draw on walls

>>79384727
>one guy just murdered your entire crew, including the big bad leader you're too afraid to even back chat
>"well we ca handle him for sure"

Yeah nah your arguments are cherry picked to benefit your own faulty biased.

>>79384754
>historians can go choke on a fat dick
"Historians" going against this movie are not historians, but political activists. For all intents and purposes, this movie was deadly accurate. It's just that liberals can't criticize the movie itself because it's so good. Thus they resort to what they do second best after whining - historical revisionism and nitpicking.

>>79384692
Speaking of Eskimos and tribal films, Antanarjuat was surpsingly good. Anyone have recommendations for other tribal films that don't such ass? I loved Apocalypto too.

>>79384777
>achieve nothing beyond banging sticks together and using basic "paints" to draw on walls
That's not all. They were also too lazy to hunt so they torched forests. Why do you think Australia is a wasteland?

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It brought us Waldo.

>>79378959

Oh they were prisoners of war so sacrificing them was cool.

The Spanish killed them because they wanted gold? WOW WHAT FUCKING SHITLORDS FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

no way mel gibson did this alone

>>79384661
I believe I'm on a thread discussing the merits and issues of a film directed by a visionary anti-semite. I personally love this movie and find that people who bitch about its inaccuracies tend to be on the autistic side. And then there are people like you, who find it necessary to inject their irrelevant toxicity into the conversation in order to gain a reaction. I am oddly comforted by this outburst of yours though. Because the more you speak, the more I realize that productive, respectable members of society don't think or act like you. And I can comfortably go to sleep knowing that you'll probably be this angry and sad tomorrow. And the day after. Goodnight.

>>79384777
You do realize that civilization 1.0 was middle eastern people and that white people had to be civilized from their sacrificing and tree-worshiping society by ethnic "Italians". They just got brought into globalization waaaay earlier

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>>79384727
>You're in a fight with someone
>You've beaten the shit out of them and he's not fighting back
>All of a sudden pic related

Do you turn away and finish the guy off or do you stare at the fucking UFO.

>>79374003
Because the far left whined about the savage depiction of natives and Gibson's jew thing.

>>79384887

Hacksaw Ridge and Braveheart are phenomenal as well what's the problem?

>>79384818
Okay you are seriously retarded. He was down on his knees on the beach after having collapsed from exhaustion and from his injury. He had already lost a ton of blood from the first arrow during his initial escape. You arrive with your buddy, both carrying weapons and your reaction is "Oh no, we have no chance! Better walk towards those gringos and their ominous ships in the distance! No way the two of us could take on this guy with his back towards us and virtually on the brink of death himself as it is."

>>79384834
>this movie was deadly accurate

Doesn't matter to me, brother, Braveheart was inaccurate as fuck but does it take away from its greatness? Hell no. Filmmakers' are not obliged to portray everything by the books. It's called FICTION for reason, brother. Pretentious cocksuckers just can't grasp the meaning of the "Based on" institute, it's beyond their train of thought.

>>79384890
Don't forget to tip your fedora. Upvotes to the left my good gentlesir.

>>79384907
Finish off the guy with one chop of my axe and then run the fuck away from the aliens, not towards them.

>>79374003
Because American critics thought the end scene meant white people were bringing civilization to the poor savages when in fact, the invasion is the final part of the curse/downfall of their culture.

Might or might not be related to Mel's antics.

>>79384997
Why not both?

>>79374859

Regardless if I agree or not, thanks for putting this great copypasta up.

>>79384995

Kinda doubt that. Most people wouldn't be able to look away when faced with something that challenges everything they've held to be true their whole life.

People can't look away from big events. Look at the highway during a car accident traffic grinds to a halt because morons act like they've never seen a car crash but it's out of the everyday norm so they can't help but look.

>>79384907

Kek this EXACT situation happened in an episode of Fargo S2.

>>79384907

Speaking of historical inaccuracy, why weren't there any aliens in the movie?

>>79384934
Right so because it wasn't played out the way YOU wanted it to, which is for common sense to take precedence over the unknown, it's a terrible movie?

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>>79384777
>abos live in aus for 10K plus years
>achieve nothing beyond banging sticks together and using basic "paints" to draw on walls
This meme is kinda unfair. How do you develop Old World-level civilizations in the Australian desert? It's amazing that they adapter to that weather and environment in the first place.

>>79385228

Anon is a hitman. Nothing distracts him from his target.

>>79385150
oh shit this got me good

>>79378959
the spanish didnt even kill them that much. european diseases did the vast majority of he genociding. spanish were still being massive cunts

>>79385253
I'd agree but they were just morons. Australia had wealth beyond compare in natural resources. Problem was that abo culture frowns upon fucking with nature. They were content to live their lives as stick bangers that eat grubs, because they never dared to dream which is what propelled almost every other culture beyond the same state.

They have no plausible excuse to have been so pathetic.

>>79384890
kill yourself, faggot.

>>79385253
>How do you develop Old World-level civilizations in with access to some of the best agricultural land in the world, enormous mineral weath and complete safety from outside influences

>>79385430
one of the ideas is that you need large domesticateable animals

>>79385556
Australia had an entire genus of large herbivores until the Abos made them all extinct.

>>79374003
Movie is full of overused stereotypes and kind of pathetic once you realize how the Mel Gibson formula works. Just watch HACKsaw Ridge, it's even more obvious in that one.

>>79374859
Parts of the movie were really great, but many parts were also corny and amateurish, which you have to endure painfully to see the great moments.

>>79385253
>Australian desert
Abos are a blight on nature. There weren't any deserts in Australia until they burned all the forests.

>>79385634
>he's so pathetic and formulaic!
>n-no I won't explain why or what that formula is figure it out yourself!!

Wew lad that was a close one cleverly averted

>>79385634
>>79385649

Christ samefag harder? Just one look st the structure, language and time stamp.

Who's paying you to badmouth Melly G

>>79385715
i posted that second comment only. Just because someone disagrees with your opinion doesn't mean its some organized group of paid shills trying to defame your current hero

>>79374859

FUCK I THOUGHT I WAS WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY. SO DISSAPOINTING.

+1 UPVOTE M8, HAVE SOME GOLD

>>79374859
>The movie also has really Eurocentric view with the ending, like the Aztecs are all painted as barbarians that the Spanish are coming to save/purge

I don't think you got the movie at all. Sure, it has issues with historical facts, but lets be honest here, not enough is really known about their civilization. That is mostly due to the Spaniards/Age of Exploration, where a more powerful civilization removed them (not completely obviously, but any seperate progress of their own civilization was basically done). It is also due to the fact they didn't have very good record keeping, and all people have to go on now are stories/mythos and pictures/symbols drawn on stone.

Mel wasn't trying to glorify the Spaniards at all, and he sure wasn't trying to glorify the Aztecs either. His protagonist was a simple man, from a simple village, that lived a life based on community values and tribal roles. Mel was trying to show that these are the kind of people that were truly "wiped out"; that the height of the Aztec empire, and every empire as shown by the ominous Spaniard arrival, isn't "great" or "glorious" for the little guy. The centralization of power under god kings and the like, always results in the weak being treated like cattle.

So yes, he does show the Aztec civilization as savage, but he also is basically presenting the incoming Spaniards as a bigger evil. Kind of like the "you thought that was bad? Well, you haven't seen anything."

>>79376764
You could view the ships as a premonition if it helps. Wether or not Mel gave a crap about the historical timeline or not, is beyond me, but if he did, then ultimately, he disregarded it in many ways to try and create something more than just a straight up factual history movie. The ships showing up just as the protagonist escapes against all odds, is kind of a big coincidence, no? It felt more like a "now that the protagoinst is safe and everything is finally ok again, here is another hell" type of finish. He wanted the audience to know that, as bad as the Aztecs were, the Spaniards are right around the corner.

>>79386045

>like the Aztecs are all painted as barbarians that the Spanish are coming to save/purg

Yeah... about them "Aztecs".

>>79377779

Because there are a lot of civilizations that aren't necessarily in the "decadence and decline" part of their lifespan that get conquered by another civilization that isn't superior in any way except for militarily. Consider the Mongols and the Chinese.

>>79387085

The Mongols were superior to anything the world had seen before.

>>79387085
the difference is too great when the powers are compared

enduring humiliation and then recovering is not the same as completely unkown people from somewhere beyond the endless ocean

>>79374859
>eurocentric

the spanish were thousand times more advanced, even biologically more advanced

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>>79374003
>apocalypto

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Bunch of butthurt, anti-intellectualist, uneducated burgers in this thread after their shitty movie got dumpster'd on by a superior European mind.

>>79384440
They got the language and Asthetic correct, but historical accuracy never got in the way of Mel's storytelling vision.

They photoshopped an ancient Mayan mural to include a blood sacrifice when the original didn't have one. I like the movie, but it's historical fiction in the same vien as Braveheart.

>>79385691
Forests here just burn down anyway. In the past 20 years alone most of Victoria would be probably be a charred wasteland if Firefighters didn't exist.

40+ degrees for days in a row and semi common lightning storms leads to fires.

>>79386161
>He wanted the audience to know that, as bad as the Aztecs were, the Spaniards are right around the corner.

Then he probably should've just made a movie about Aztecs.

>>79388623
forests burn everywhere but don't bother trying to make excuses for those fuck,

>>79377000
You do know that Cortez allied with tons of other tribes to destroy the aztecs right? Seems to me they were pretty hated.

It got stellar reviews when it came out. With that said, what's there to talk about? It's a good movie. It does nothing revolutionary.

apocalypto is a fucking cool movie about a guy who is having the worst day ever.

>>79378464
The whole city and sacrifice scene are extremely well made. You're just trying to be edgy.

>>79374003
>Why isn't this movie more talked about
cause it's old news

I am Jaguar Paw, son of Flint Sky. My Father hunted this forest before me. My name is Jaguar Paw. I am a hunter. This is my forest. And my sons will hunt it with their sons after I am gone.

It was a fun movie, I absolutely loved the sets, costumes and all the ritual theatrics.

But there's no way to defend the inaccuracy of it. It's not just some minor anachronisms or mistakes here and there, it's a whole civilization in the wrong time period. Somebody in this thread said Gladiator was as bad and nobody complained, but I'm pretty sure Gladiator didn't mix up Rome with Greece and end with the Genghis Khan showing up. You have to understand that the Mayan (not Aztec) civilization as depicted in the film didn't exist when the Spanish showed up.

The sacrificial stuff, as much as I loved to watch it, was all wrong. The Mayans didn't do mass sacrifice like the Aztecs, they didn't rip the heart out (not in the period depicted), they didn't lead victims to the altar like a conveyer belt, and most importantly they didn't just sacrifice random villager fucks for no reason. They sacrificed high ranking warriors from enemy cities caught in battle, not raid defenseless villages. And yeah, even the existence of that little hunter-gatherer village full of half-naked noble savages was completely off, since the Mayans were all farmers and were never more than a few miles from the nearest city.

Again, I like the movie and didn't really expect accuracy, but don't pretend it had some kind of historic merit (except the costumes, they were great). It's about as accurate as Road to El Dorado, but at least that movie didn't pretend to be based in reality. Also while portraying Mayans as pure evil savages might not seem to matter to your average American, consider that they're still around and have only recently escaped from a genocide in Guatemala in which popular images of savagery played a large role.