Could this be plausible?

>>79337760
no, the machines are fucking idiots. turning humans into energy sources doens't work.

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>>79337760
no
it would take more energy to keep them alive than they would receive from their bodies

the original reason they enslaved the humans like this was for RAM but back them plebs and normies didnt know much about computers so they rewrote it as LMAO HUMAN BATTERIES

>>79337849
This. Holy fuck it was ruined. They could had just spent 2 mins explaining what Ram was and how the human mind was good at it. And then throw in the radiant energy source to perhaps help power the machines(albeit very low power but still better than nothing)

>>79337760
>harvest human energy
>keep them asleep

B R A V O

>>79337849
interesting, and good point-humans aren't very efficient at producing work when they're immobilized

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>>79337760
>he hasn't taken the red pill
Sad!

>>79337760
The human brain barely produces any usable heat at all, the machines that sustain them use up more energy than their bodies could conceivably produce. Those machines were retarded, they could have developed usable nuclear fusion, they could have easily cracked the earth to use geotermal or even went to space to gather solar energy.
The Matrix isn't a good flick because it has some deep and meaningful philosophical undertones, or because it has a well thought out sci-fi foundation. The whole setting is a silly excuse to develop inventive action scenes, creative camerawork and gripping gun fights. That's where the core of the first movie lies, and what was lost in those hilariously shitty sequels. /rant

>>79337849
It wasn't for RAM, dipshit. A brain would make for terrible volatile memory, considering its nasty habit of remembering things.The initial idea was to use them as a cluster of co-processors, which, considering how poorly brains would interface with other brains, is also a retarded idea.
Either way you go with this it's preposterous. Machines would have no use for us once they gained sentience, which is why the skynet scenario makes much more sense. The only angle I'd accept was if they kept us alive for their amusement, like some kind of silly zoo of evolutionary gone-bys.

>>79337849
source on this? it makes sense yes but I'd like to know for sure

>>79338055
Or just have Morpheus say "You ever hear how humans only use 10% of their mind? Well the robots use the other 90%". Bam, simple.

But a big plot point was how the sky was "scorched" to stop the machines from getting energy from the Sun, so I gotta wonder if the human battery excuse wasn't deliberate from the start.

>>79338319
>it makes sense yes
Maybe if you're an idiot who can't into computers.

>>79338372
>"You ever hear how humans only use 10% of their mind? Well the robots use the other 90%".

thats too good to come from you. did you read it somewhere else?

>>79337846

The Wachowski Human Beings originally wanted the machines to be using humans as a neural net like in the Alex Jones JRE episode, but the producers thought the idea was to complicated so they made them change it to batteries.

>>79338380
Jesus man, go take a walk.

>>79338372
>But a big plot point was how the sky was "scorched" to stop the machines from getting energy from the Sun, so I gotta wonder if the human battery excuse wasn't deliberate from the start.
I recall reading somewhere that the original idea was that aliens attacked and almost destroyed humanity, and then the machines hid humanity while they fought them off.

Also involved how they used human brains as computing power to figure out how to defeat them. But I don't remember from here I got this article.

Some top scientist said there is a 10% chance we are in a matrix type instrument now.

>>79338318
>>79338380
>fat permavirgin autist gets triggered

you arent as smart as you think you are and are wrong

>>79338372
But that's somehow even worse than what we ended up with. Humans do use 100% of their brains, especially while solving complex problems.

>>79338444
Trips confirm anon has to go take a walk. Also while you're at it..

Lift some weights
Take a shower
Have sex
Get a clue

>>79338474
thats a lie perpetuated by people who want you to be more complacent since
>hey doesnt matter were in a computer simulation

>>79337760
it was the 90s anon. it was a different time. movies like this and Hackers were laughably the norm.

The entire plot was retarded.

>Machines go develop a city and fuck over global economy.
>K lets nuke them.
>Somehow they are inmune to EMP
>K obviously they overproduce us, and thats the key point to win any war, so lets fuck their main source of energy, the sun, by fucking our planet too.
>Somehow when the humans make the sun dissapear from sky the machines keep attacking and eventually won.

It´s just stupid.

>>79338430
>The Wachowski Human Beings
this made me kek'd irl

>>79338480
>If u dont like my nonsense ur a fat vergo nerd lamo
What a fantastic retard we have here.
>>79338474
Theoretical physicists have proposed that we're in two dimensional universe and our third dimension is merely a projection, and they're fairly confident about that theory.

>>79338521

Life doesn't matter anyway. It being a simulation doesn't matter.

>>79338505
Stop posting about nerd shit if you don't want nerd answers, cockbite. Also stop replying to your own posts, it's embarrassing to read.

>>79338500
Obviously, and everyone knows that. And Deja Vu isn't some programming glitch. It's fiction m8, and the 10% meme is prevalent enough in society that people will suspend their disbelief, except for autists like you.

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>>79338557
stop pretending to be smart
it just makes you more repulsive than you already are

>>79338609
>and the 10% meme is prevalent enough in society that people will suspend their disbelief
That's just spreading misinformation, though. Besides, Lucy did that shit and everyone panned that movie for it.

>>79338560
>hur dur nihilism

grow up, its all about absurdism

>>79338625
I don't need to pretend at all, stop trying to save face you fat shit.

>>79338550

>Somehow they are inmune to EMP

They weren't, they just sent hordes of machines after the first wave got fried by the EMP and destroyed the EMP thing.

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>>79338557
>Theoretical physicists have proposed that we're in two dimensional universe and our third dimension is merely a projection, and they're fairly confident about that theory.

>>79338708
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150427101633.htm
fug :DDD :DDDDD

>>79338550
That's one thing I thought was ridiculous though, no one city can outproduce the entire rest of the planet. And even if this city was the largest city on the planet by far, a single unified embargo would make all that industrial capacity count for shit.

>>79338646
no everybody panned lucy because it was shit. if they had gone the RAM route they could've played it off as some conspiracy theory where people in the matrix really are only using 10% of their brains. the battery thing is far less believable

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>>79338676
youre a fat loser and a fucking faggot

stop trying to act like youre better than everyone
you are without a doubt the most pathetic loser in this thread

>>79338758
There was never a RAM route, they never intended for their brains to be used as RAM. That's something you came up with on your own. The idea that the brains could be used as PROCESSORS came from a Neil Gaiman story based on The Matrix called Goliath, written after the fact. Most of those webcomics are vaguely considered canon.

>>79338771
>wah wah ur gay an u smell
Stick to the topic, retard. Nobody cares that I hurt your feelings.

>>79338892
youre a faggot and you stink

have fun spending another saturday night at home KEK

seriously you are insufferable
im going to go out and have fun with my friends
youre going to stay here all night

>>79337760
>>79337846
It's a metaphor you pleb

>>79339011
>pls give me attention
I'm not your babysitter.

>>79339056
A metaphor for what, you spastic douche?

>tfw living in the Matrix
>only way out is to kill yourself

>>79339106
you know this stop being about the matrix the moment you started posting
you couldve just tried to correct me and you wouldve been taken more seriously if you were just such a humongous faggot by being so needlessly confrontational, which says a lot about what kind of nigger you are

you will never be happy, just kill yourself now

>>79338430
>wachowski human beings
keke

>>79339132
use your fucking brain for one second you imbecile

Or maybe you're just too retarded to realize the shitty world Zion exists in another imperfect level to the Matrix. Hence why Neo can use his powers and Smith can transfer himself to the "real world"

>>79339132
The matrix is sucking out energy from humans. Why does it need the energy? I think the proper way to ask that question is to turn it around: Why does the energy need the matrix? That is to say, since I think that the energy we are talking about is libido, is our pleasure, why does our libido need the virtual matrix of fantasies? Why can't we simply enjoy it directly? Why do we need this virtual supplement?
Our libido needs this virtual element to sustain itself. Our fundamental delusion today is not to believe in the fiction, to take matrix as reality. It's on the contrary - it's not to take it too seriously. Perhaps this virtual identity is a persons true self, because in real life we are unable to enact it due to fears and social constraints. Perhaps that virtual reality is actually more real than reality.

>>79338703
They nuked 01, the city itself, but it didn´t matter cause machines were "superior to the weak flesh bla bla"

Bullshit, detonate a single large nuclear device at 400 km (or 250 miles more or less) over earth and the MP would affect continent sizes, they imply humans launched various nukes, so there is no way in hell the machines could have survived.

Why were the sequels so terrible compared to the first one? What changed?

>>79339336
>The matrix is sucking out energy from humans. Why does it need the energy?
To operate. You're not the sharpest pencil in the case, are you?

>>79340102
The assumed the first one was popular because of all the philosophical bullshit it pushed and not the action scenes and the interesting characters. They also made their main character do the full arc in the first movie, leaving no room for development in the later two. Neil didn't grow or change during those two movies.

>>79338318
I think it would work better if the machines were trying to gain humanity by observing humans but that might be too much like dark city.

>>79340102
The first one was writen and directed by 2 men.
The sequels was writen and directed by a man and a woman.

>>79338742
You didn't even read the article you linked did you?

>>79338430
>The Wachowski Human Beings
that's speciesist. why would you assume their species?

This obese pseudo intellectual loser ruined what could have been an interesting thread.

Nice job, fatty.

>>79340218
I think they only became trannies afterwards. It was probably the sequels that caused it.

>>79338318
sci fi super machines could probably work out how to use the human brains as a network of neural nets and some excuse about keeping us conscious like the human brain creates more connections and can invent novel solutions to problems if its allowed to grow naturally.

Also the best explanation is that the humans are fucking retarded and were driving themselves to extinction and the machines have just been trying to be good stewards of the earth and keep humans in the best conditions they possibly can. In fact they tried to give humans a paradise but the brains rejected it. The machines just keep us alive because they are nice

>>79340174
> sharpest pencil in the case

Says the man who doesn't understand cinema beyond the plot.

>To operate.

If that were the only reason, there would be no need to bring it up. With the current state of technology, they could have easily used nuclear reactors. Such a thing would not be relevant to even waste time to explain it.

>>79340242
Apparently, you're the one who didn't.

>>79339132
Capitalism, obviously. The machines feeds us lies to keep us docile while they feed and enrich themselves off of the power of our bodies and minds i.e. our labour power.

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>this thread

>>79340303
>>79340218
They were born women, if that's their gender identity. Nothing changed except their outward appearance more matches how they feel inside now.

>>79340615
I don't think you even understand what Capitalism is. The more correct way to say it would be "The Man", "Elites" or more broadly "Ideology". The parable would work equally well for a socialist, or a totalitarian system - which coincidentally would be the exact same as in the Matrix.

Anyway that is the lowest-hanging fruit tier answer

>>79340525
>Says the man who doesn't understand cinema beyond the plot.
What you're describing is still the plot, though, even if you think you're analyzing the subtext of it. I think you're imploding into your own stupidity, shouldn't have dropped out of high school.

>>79340820
Hehe, what a brainlet. Plot is a series of events which drive the story forward. It's the reality of the story, without the philosophy. And plot is what a pleb like you will focus on, as only natural for someone who has only ever been exposed to genre fiction drivel.

>>79340749
>or more broadly "Ideology"
Ideology can be emancipatory though, not just a tool used to enslave. A dearth of emancipatory ideology is a big cause of the problems in the world, the ideology of the elites goes unchallenged in the guise of pragmatism.

>>79338430
That would have been better

>>79340706
>Born women
Damn they musta been some big ass babies

>>79337849
It has nothing to do with amount of energy; it's about the form of energy.

If you want to argue that there could have been a more efficient way, fine, but there's nothing wrong with how it was.

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>>79340933
>not just a tool used to enslave

All ideology enslaves. A man cannot escape it without great turmoil, you must force yourself to do it. It is not simply imposed on ourselves, it is our spontaneous relationship to our material, social world, how we perceive it's meaning.

Would anybody else here have taken the blue pill? Cypher had the right idea in mind, although I don't agree with him betraying his team.

>>79341122
hey double digits man
can i give you some fucking fruit juice?

>>79341122
Zizek is a CIA psyop designed to intellectually impoverish any nascent revolutionaries.

>>79337760
movie was written by script kiddos

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>>79338430
>The Wachowski Human Beings

>>79341173
Give me some fucking ice tea with artificial sugar

>>79341178
I didn't think it would be possible to impoverish your typical revolutionary any more, they would stop breathing or something
Commies are plenty stupid already

>>79341139
That rare steak looked pretty fucking good

>>79338318
So it's like what Alex Jones was talking about on JRE?

Did the Wachowskis try to woke us in 1999?!!

>>79340917
It's irrelevant, your query was about the reason why the machines needed it. Your compulsive need to call other people name's is merely a reflection of your inadequacies.
At no point did you stop to think if what you were arguing about had any relation to subtext, you just forgot the main discussion and assumed you did.
What a mongoloid.

>>79341379
I don't remember there being a water filter in the original film.

>>79341450
It was a metaphorical question, but I assume that just went totally above your head just like the rest of my post. Don't even bother replying to me again, you're too intellectually inferior for a conversation of even this merge caliber.