Why did they cast this like a softcore porn?

SERIOUSLY

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>>79278728
That's how Verhoeven casts every movie.

Also, Diz best girl.

>>79278728
Verhoeven thinks this kind of shit is hillarious (and I think he's right).

>tfw in the future, true gender equality is established by the iron fist of the military rulers

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>>79278728
RIP Denise Richards' face.

WELL I'M FROM BUENOS AIRES, AND I SAY BLOW EM ALL!

>>79279821
THE ONLY DEAD BUG IS A SQUASHED BUG!

>>79279770
this guy gets it

>>79278728

Because Verhoeven is an absolute master of satire.

>>79279820
P R O J E C T M O N A R C H

ITT: People who just watched Starship Troopers because Jayfu said he's doing to re:View it

>>79279820

Lol is that a metal plate

>>79279703
The Denise Richards scenes could have been good, but she has zero personality, literally just a sex object.

Also, Rico was such a pretty boy it was impossible to buy him as a hardened soldier. When he takes charge in the end it is like a joke.

>>79279909
I don't know who that is. I watched it because my ex girlfriend is dating someone else and I watching Rico would cheer me up. But I forgot what a pussy that actor is.

Thank god this movie had Michael Ironside in it, the only thing that saves it.

>>79279927
Everyone knows the real hero of the story is Zim and to an extent Rasczak

>>79278728
Why were they all white if they were from Buenos Aires? Did we win the race war?

>>79280000
Argentina is white, don't you know?

>>79280000
buenos aires is on argentina, argentina is white.
joke aside, certain parts of buenos aires where there's rich people are very white, and on some other provinces there was lots of german immigration and you have milky white sexy blondes

>>79280000
Argentina is like 80% white, more than the USA.

Don't tell the Jews, it's a secret

>>79280000
johnny rico was supposedly filipino in the books too magical quads man

>tfw this movie would have been much better with 20 minutes of CGI pew pew cut out

>>79280105
Shut the fuck up.

>>79280105
what would you have cut?

>>79280123
Just shaving a few seconds from every pew pew shot

He just Made Showgirls so like..... you know...

Zander is patricians favorite character
This is indisputable

>>79280000
Verhoeven predicted Tump

>>79280000
It was supposed to be a fascist oppressive society, they always portray those as very white. Sort of a rule.

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>Casper Van Dien

>>79278728

They're comically good looking to drive home how pointless the bug war is, wasting the lives of these beautiful people who had so much to live for.

It's all part of a larger commentary on fascism, mainly the Ayran ideal + war mongering paradox (create a race of perfect people just to throw them into a meat grinder).

>>79280211
Loses the football game, gets Rico's sloppy seconds, his boss is a woman, then he dies like a bitch. The perfect cuck, no wonder tv identifies with him.

>>79279703
So apparently Diz was a no homo best male friend of Rico in the book?

I like how overt and almost ham-fisted the satire is. Its overtness is what makes the movies message relevant throughout the ages, I think.

>>79280258
wow that "johnny all-american" look gets really creepy with age

>>79280258
dude's gotta eat. don't hate

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>>79280258
How much better would this movie have been with Johnny Ringo as Johnny Rico. Michael Biehn can actually play a tough guy.

>>79280357
Judging by that cover I'm pretty certain he fucks that dog in that movie.

>>79280385
Hi Casper.

>>79278728
Why not?

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>>79280000
Argentina = white

>>79280267
>pointless

The bugs were trying to genocide the humans as much as the humans were the bugs.

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>>79279703
>Also, Diz best girl
except for her tits. How can tits that small even be that saggy?

>>79280321

I honestly think subtlety is overrated. If a piece of art has something to say then it's all the better when it says it loud and clear.

A lot of subtly is just pretentious or a sign of intellectual insecurity, and I think there is this misconception that obvious = dumb, which is only true when the subject matter is dumb, and that generally simple concepts are easier to convey.

Starship Troopers is so obvious in what it is trying to say, and part of the message is the dumb presentation, but the fact that it manages to clearly communicate a lot of really complex ideas in a fun "mindless" action movie is a huge achievement.

>>79280495
>childhood faps

>>79280514
I think Robocop, Showgirls, and Starship Troopers are very underrated, and will get their dues (especially Showgirls) in coming years.

>>79280495
tfw I used to masturbate to that scene a lot

>>79280495
Maybe she used to be obese, or she had 5 kids

>>79280492

>He fell for the propaganda

I thought the movie made it obvious that everything the human government was saying was total bullshit. There was no evidence the asteroid was sent by the bugs, nor that the bugs gave a shit about invading the humans. We clearly invaded them first, they probably would leave us the fuck alone if we did.

>>79280572
After Verhoeven dies there will be Facebook movie buffs reciting these deep insights they recognized.

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>>79278728
Because your mom was too old.

>>79279820
what happened
she was literally a 10/10 in the 90's

>>79278728
When Denise Richards looked like that I don't know why they didn't cast everything like softcore porn.

>>79280000
It's the future. Anything could happen.

>>79280080
Argentinian girls have such cute accents. I fell in love with a youtuber from there (pre-ASMR/streamer era) who would just post herself smoking a pipe and reading poetry.

>In an article for Salon, comedian and writer Aasif Mandvi criticized Casper Van Dien's casting as whitewashing

WE

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Can we just make this a young Denise Richards thread?

>>79279703
>That's how Verhoeven casts every movie.

This. This is the director that made such classics as Showgirls, Basic Instinct and Hollow Man which were all borderline softcore porn.

>>79280386
Anything is better with Michael Biehn. After seeing Planet Terror a few years back, It honestly felt like seeing a cool uncle after a decade or so.

>>79280628
The bugs launched the asteroid. But, the federation was agitating them with blockades and stuff before that. Just like people accuse Japan of starting WW2 when in reality the US was already fighting them via blockades all over the pacific that were vital to Japan

>>79280000

I don't know if you're joking or not but that is actually what the movie is implying. Notice how they all speak in American accents too. There's a reason that they all look and act like American caricatures but they didn't go with future NYC or something like that. It's the endgame of American globalisation, and that endgame is a fascist "utopia".

>>79280660
25 years happened nigga.

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>>79280818

>>79280309
she was also bald in the book

>>79280495
Adult here. She must have exercised or dieted her YA fat stores away. When she gets titfat again, they will sag harder because the structural integrity is fucked.

>>79280628

This. The first bit of the movie that's the news report about the attack on the planet that starts with K, they boast about how "The federation has this new lunar satellite defense area, no more asteroids on our watch!"

But then later on in the movie when Carmen is leaving the moon to do her first training flight, you can clearly see the same lunar defense system that they have like a year when that broadcast was taking place. They could have stopped the meteor if they wanted.

That's just one of many examples of how it was an obvious false flag

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>>79280904
So this is why they say you should go into STEM

>>79278728
Because it was the 90s and only the beautiful people were allowed in Hollywood.

>>79279988
The guy did his own stunts.

>>79280936
Jesus, you Buenos Aires truthers are pathetic.

>>79280873
As much as Verhoeven hates white people, that is the future anyway. We are already using gene therapy, once things are mapped better you will literally be able to pick your race, eye color, IQ, etc, and pass those genes on to your kids as if they were yours. 99% of non-whites will immediately get every procedure required to become white. So ironically, the more non-whites multiply now, the more whites there will be in the future.

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>>79280934
>Adult here

>>79280867

They're just bugs though. Obviously there was a bit of intelligence from the brain bugs but they don't have some end goal of total domination. They were lightyears away from the Federation, do you really think there was ever a real threat of them destroying it?

Even if we had them in a blockade it was because they were dangerous animals that overran planets and tried to spread their spore. I doubt the bugs cared that much.

There's a reason the movie ends with Neil Patrick reading the brain bugs mind and going "he's afraid". The bugs were just some dumb animals that wanted to hang about and have bug sex, might have been a bit frustrated they couldn't spread the spores like they used to, and next thing you know all these apes are invading their planets

>>79279820
Joker Toxin?

>>79280873
The great thing is the fascist utopia actually worked and the people are all strong, beautiful, intelligent, and united.

>>79280572
You are allowed to dislike a film anon. A lot of the Lynch fans claim that Inland Empire is kino, when its a slog to the nth degree. Making it through is only to say you seen it.

Showgirls is shit and your blind like for every piece of work an artist does is childish and fanboyish.

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>>79279820
>thumbnail
>jesus christ you faggots she's just a little older still looking great for her age-
>open thumbnail
>mfw

>>79281063
except they have to constantly have a war to justify the military society they have in place, and will go so far as to false flag Buenos Aires into dust to have another war.

To be honest, life as a non-civilian might not be that bad. Sure you don't get to vote, but when half the planet is off at war you can stay behind and fuck all the supermodel tier hippies, while enjoying the hi-tech future you live in

>>79280904
I feel old now. I recall when she was the new hot Bond girl. I literally unzipped my dick for the last Bond film with her and the long haired French babe.

>>79279820
She doesn't look too bad for 45, she's just too skinny. Her wrinkles and veins wouldn't show as much if she had a little body fat.

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>>79280258

>>79279820
BOGPILED

>>79281076
Not him, but I love Showgirls, it's just the right amount of cheese and sleeze that it's fun. It came out around the same time as Striptease which took itself too seriously and tried to be some family lifetime network special outside of the nude scenes.

>>79280936

I love how that on first viewing you take that "no asteriods on our watch" and then the destruction of BA as a joke at the overwhelming incompetence of the human military but on analysis it's much more sinister. Then of course you have the /tv/ trumptards who take the movie at face value and think it's a movie about the good humans vs the evil bugs. I wonder what it's like to be that stupid.

>>79281255
Gina Gershon is absoultely amazing in that movie.

>You're a whore, darling
>I like nice tits. I always have, how about you?
>Aren't you gonna come here and give me a big kiss?

>>79279820
She seems to be incredibly angry

>>79280764
Link plz

>>79281291
but anon... you are that stupid

>>79281291
Maybe they just read more books than you, since that's how Heinlein intend it.

>>79281413
Verhoeven's interpretation is rather different from Heinlein's own words about what he intended when writing the book.

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>>79281208

>Air Bud Force

>>79281204
>too skinny
get effay cuntlicker

>>79280853
>Hollow Man
>softcore porn
I thought the rape scene was tastefully done too.

>>79279927
The thing about Rico that bugged me so much was, like you said, his complete lack of authority. He can't yell to intimidate at all. He comes off to wrll spoken and pampered to play the role of a hardened, experienced soldier. He would make a good officer, though.

>>79281729
The turnover is constant and pretty soon a pretty boy with underdeveloped skills is going to be running shit.

Rico has experience and that's what counted. They just don't go get a grandpa to order people around.

>>79278728

In the future they've been actively eliminating inferior genes..

its a world that works

>>79281729

he was an officer by the end of the film..

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>you will never be the recipient of this look

What are some other nietzschean scifi movies with fascist undertones? Hard mode no warhammer or inhabited island

>>79282116
No he wasn't. He was still enlisted, just ranked.

>>79278728
>tfw the hottest chick in the movie is Amy Smart and she barely gets screentime
>tfw nf

>>79282569
>inhabited island
this was pretty cool movie eh has heavy filters and gayboy lead and doesn't afraid of anything

more russki-fi?

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>>79278728
>tfw main character gets cucked in the beginning
>yeah yeah okay i already know hes gonna get the girl
>tfw main character gets cucked in the middle
>okay the girl is with a chad right now but he will die or something and the main character will get with her this shit is so predictable
>tfw main character gets cucked at the end
>WoAH

Was anyone else actually caught off guard when he didn't get the girl?

>>79280867
>Just like people accuse Japan of starting WW2

Fucking common core, no wonder you guys have memes for presidents.

>>79283043
he obviously meant to say "forced america to join ww2" you raging autist

>>79283090
Oh I'm sorry, I shouldn't have berated him for his lacking knowledge of history but his inability to communicate effectively then, you analphabetic trollop.

>>79278728

for the coed shower scene

also, maybe verhoeven likes watching beautiful people die

>>79281413
It's the most a director ever disdained and satirized his source material in the end work.

>>79281076

Inland Empire is kino. And Showgirls is a great sleaze movie, it's not to be taken seriously.

>>79280000
Movie takes place in an alternate history where the Nazis won WWII

>>79278728
Verhoeven's movies often have that sleazy Lifetime Channel movie or softcore porn quality. It can seem kind of cheap at first but then you get the sneaking suspicion he's using it for effect.

Showgirls aside, I don't think I'd call his work Camp, exactly, though. I think of Verhoeven as one of the first to locate that next step beyond irony. Lynch too. Lynch took an ironic approach with Wild at Heart but by Lost Highway and Mulholland Dr. it was something else.

>>79283590
>>79281474

Reminder Verhoeven admitted to reading one chapter then throwing the book away.

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>>79278728
Age was not a good friend.

>>79279821
I'M FROM THE TOILET AND I SAY FLUSH EM ALL

>>79287362
What are you talking about? She's 45 and still looks hot.

Verhoeven's patented strong jawlines.

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>>79282285
Wild Things is better than porn.

>>79287538
porn sux

>>79287362

Charlie Sheen ruined her. I wonder if she has AIDS now too.

>>79279820
F

>>79287538
how do male actors hide their boners during scenes like these?

>>79287764
They probably don't right?

>>79287777
What makes them stay calm if they have a 10/10 literally twerking her butt on your fully erected penis?

id rape her on set

>>79287764

Male actors usually have some kind of covering over their genitals.

Also, a lot of male actors are gay.

>>79287804
Oh, I'm sure they have boners but don't orgasm. Most male actors get a lot of sex whether from men or women.

>>79287804

Because the male actor's aren't 19 anymore.

>>79287820
>>79287826
Doesn't make sense apart from them being gay.

if you are a guy and get a boner, its to late.

the male instinct is to fucc pussi.

>>79287764
They tuck it up into a rubber belt or some shit that wraps around their stomach

>>79287764
It's not as hot when there's 10 ugly guys standing around you in cargo shorts and a mic right on top of you, it's also kinda awkward even though the chick is hot. but it happens, ofc it happens.

>>79287764
If they get boners they won't "hide" it. I think female and male actors are mature enough to know that this shit happens if you rub your dick against a nice ass. So they just let it happen and carry on with their work.

>>79287843

Protip: Boners peak in your late teens. Enjoy aging.

>>79287893
>honestly believing both the actors films sex scenes nude in hollywood movies with simulated sex

>>79287910
The scene they are referring to doesn't show nudity

>>79287910
Please read my post again.

so many virgins on here.

kill yourselfs

>>79280890
No excuse, my mom aged 25 years and she still looks fuckable.

>>79287894
You should talk to your doctor about ED, Anon.

>>79288040
post pics

>>79287923

Notice how that scene is filmed from the waist up. They're not naked below the frame. Actors wear shit like pads and covers over their genitals so there won't be genital to genital contact. Unless the film has unsimulated sex.

>>79287955

Any boners are "hidden" under like fabric taped to the actor.

>>79288052

If you think a 19-year-old dick is going to last forever, you're mistaken.

>>79284940
>it's not to be taken seriously.
Neither is Starship Troopers.

>>79279820
Can someone give me a quick rundown on what happened here?

>>79288171
She left sheen and suddenly the work dried up which made her stress and now she's a fugly mugly.

>>79288171

She just has bulging veins in her forehead. Maybe it's Botox related.

>>79287538
holy fuck I better try this next time in a brothel

>>79288171
her bogdabots became sterile when she bowed to the rothchilds.

>>79279820
Which planet did the creature wearing her face hail from?

>>79288213
bogdagrad

>>79287538
I disagree.
Porn is to make you masturbate and most porn isn't erotic. It cuts out the build up and just dives straight into fucking.

WT is all about the ero. It teases you in every way but never delivers and you want more.

It's perfect in that regard but not better for jerking it.

>not posting the brown cow tits from the shower scene

>>79280904
Good Lara Croft

>>79280000
Falklands 2 Electric Boogaloo m8

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>>79281156

you keep your dick in some kind of pouch?

>>79282924
The girl gets to be a starship pilot. The "main" guy signs up just for her and gets foot soldier. It was obvious he'd never get her. I expected them not to even bump into each other again.

>>79287843
>if you are a guy and get a boner, its to late
nice misandry

>>79288197
kys

>>79279820
Jesus Christ....
I'm so afraid that the woman I marry will turn out like this. How the fuck are you supposed to get in bed with THAT every night?

>>79288736

Besides her Barbie skin, she doesn't look that different. Most people in Hollywood get Botox so you can probably blame that for the vein bulges in her forehead.

>>79288873
Dude she looks like a witch.

>>79280000
Memes aside all rich people in Buenos Aires are white or jewish.

>>79287764
he hides his boner inside her vagina

>>79280495
Dizapointed

But I still would.

>>79280495
>pancakes

Starship Troopers is fucking kino. All the actors nailed it.

The civics classroom scene with Micharl Ironside gives me a boner too.

>>79287538
I downloaded the pool scene off kazaa back in the day and fapped many times to it.

>>79288932

Looks better than most 45 year old women.

>>79288961
fugg me dabs hou ids done

>>79278728
this movie is 20y old
>tfw old

>>79280495
>>79280934

Actual femanon

>Play active sports
>Anything above a B cup will sag, even with a sports bra

>>79289202
>Actual femanon
post raisin collection

>>79289202
keep them in the kitchen amirite

>>79289202
>above a B cup

Does that mean A or C+?

>>79280267
Wow really made me think

>>79278728
Could this be made today with such a white looking cast?

>>79289243

>Above as in volume

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>>79280000

>>79283090
>>79283182
Why are you assuming xirr gender?

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>>79289356
noo

>>79289431

Again, you'd do better to use a different word that "above." A comes before B. So A is "above" B on a size chart. C is bigger than B. So C is "above" B when it comes to size.

Volume is not measured in above and below.

>>79282842
underrated post

>>79290533
Hahaha autism. Try thinking critically about what a person has typed to infer meaning rather than processing what they've written literally. You're like a little robot boy.

>>79278728
IT WAS PART OF THE AESTHETIC

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>>79290822
>You're like a little robot boy.

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>>79281208
>Viet Cats

>>79287810
>boner hiding device

>>79280572
RoboCop is literally considered a classic that is featured heavily in film schools as a masterful satire that is also one of the best action movies of all time.

Starship Troopers is a cult classic.

Showgirls is just shit though. No way is it going to get its due ever.

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Is Wild Things noir?

>>79291001
Yes.

>>79281024
Yeah, I've thought about this. There's this leftist anti-white thing right now but truth be told once gene therapy and choosing the genes of your kids becomes a thing, you don't think everyone is going to choose the most golden-haired, white aesthetic?

Look at Beyonce, or nearly any black pop star. The fake white woman hair, the lightened skin tone. Look at what asian women do to themselves. Look at the way westernized arab women, and hispanic women, etc, bleach their hair. Look at how middle-class-aspiring hispanic girls start to attempt to look as white as they can.

If globalism continues, there will be some amount of mixing at first (although events are proving that heritage IS actually important to a lot of people, so races will probably remain), but then a lot of the mixed race and darker people who can afford it will start to choose whiter features for their kids.

As always, there will be a dark underclass and an Aryan-esque upper class. Look at pretty much any country anywhere where there is some difference, and look at how the castes are separated.

I have a lot of upper caste indian friends, and upper class hispanic friends. Basically white.

>>79279909
What kind of faggot didn't see starship troopers when they were 9-10 years old?

>>79279909
I rewatched it, yes. I think RLM make good content and I am happy with my patreon contributions I make to them.

>>79287764
Every actor/actress say there exists a certain "mood" when they make kissing scenes. With sex scenes might be not that different, some actors might stay with his dicks hard and film the scene this way.

>>79279909

>cult classic
>constant reruns on FX

Nigga what?

>>79291219
Huh?

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>>79278728
As a child watching this.
I thought Dizzy had amazing titties.

>>79279820

Is she in pain?

>>79279820
Charlie Sheen's Super-AIDS will do that to a person.

>>79287894


I plan on being able to fuck well into my seventies, and I'm almost halfway there

Sucks to be you

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>>79279820

https://www.microsoft.com/cognitive-services/en-us/emotion-api

>>79280495
Fuuuuck i didn't remember them being like that.

>>79280495
>another gay guy tries to assess female beauty post

Just stick to sucking cocks anon, no one will blame you for it

>>79278728
As I recall the communist that directed it deeply disliked the book.

>>79280000
buenos aires is whiter than most western capitals tbffam, in my experience

>>79288961
10/10 post

>>79279801
>true gender equality is established by the iron fist of the military rulers
I was impressed by this as a kid, shower together, fight together, die together and seeing nudes in teh shower don't mean shit, get over it.

>>79278728
>like a softcore porn?
Because it half was. Man, have you watched the sequels?

If you had a brain, you could appreciate the ironic parody and if you didn't, you could appreciate the naked hot kids.

>>79280321
>I like how overt and almost ham-fisted the satire is. Its overtness is what makes the movies message relevant throughout the ages, I think.
When you're parodying propaganda and jingoism, subtlety would miss the point. Best to turn it up to 11, it's all you really need to do.

>>79293044

This.

Any subtlety parodying propaganda might be misconstrued as endorsement or just more propaganda.

>>79280572
>Showgirls
I never saw any satire in this, maybe I could rewatch it.

>>79291001
So how many times did you guys fap to this scene?

I'm pretty sure I saw Van Dien in a skinemax flick with Shannon Tweed.

>>79293111
It satirizes the whole American entertainment business, and how you backstab and whore yourself to become a star.

>>79282753
>No he wasn't. He was still enlisted, just ranked.
NCO, whatever.

>>79282924
>Was anyone else actually caught off guard when he didn't get the girl?
Did he even still want her at the end?

>>79283590
>It's the most a director ever disdained and satirized his source material in the end work.
This. A film faithful to the source would have been pretty one-dimensional and basically a /pol/tard wankfest. The film that was made was much better than it would/should have been.

>>79287538
>Wild Things is better than porn.
Ever watched the sequels? They don't get more plausible and none are anything more than an excuse to cash out a franchise with B movies but they're entertaining.

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>>79293260
I couldn't believe they literally just remake the original with shittier writing

>>79287843
>if you are a guy and get a boner, its to late.
>the male instinct is to fucc pussi.
What is self control?

>>79289047
>Starship Troopers is fucking kino. All the actors nailed it.
There is that. I don't think there is really any bad acting in it?

>>79289356
>Could this be made today with such a white looking cast?
You know there were black and asian people in that movie, right?

>>79293146
>So how many times did you guys fap to this scene?
I and a friend and his gf rented this from the video shop. At that exact scene, the tracking went to shit and lasted for about 10 seconds. It's what happens when a VHS has been paused for ages, it fucks the magnetic tape up in that spot.

>>79293301
>I couldn't believe they literally just remake the original with shittier writing
Yeah, each one was a bit less interesting than the one before but they were all kind of convoluted backstabbing and sex which is basically what I wanted to see.

>>79293156

I think Tweed was out of the game by then.

>>79291526
I'm not sure what you're trying to say but that seems to show happiness as the dominant emotion by an enormous margin (several orders of magnitude).

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>>79287538
I stole a copy of it from blockbuster when I was a teenager just to fap to. Literally the only thing I've ever stolen from a store.

>>79290859
lol

>>79280357

That cover shot isn't doing him any favors but look up some recent pictures of him and he doesn't look quite JUST yet

>>79287810
>Also, a lot of male actors are gay.
this

they're all gay and whores in hollywood

>>79282753

He was a second lieutenant in the end, that's commissioned. In the book he went to OCS

>>79281678
I prefer the titty fondle scene. Literally gallons of teen seed were spilt over it.

>>79291272
That's what I thought untill today. Way to ruin childhood memories, /tv/. Now I have to reexamine my every fetish and preference in women.

>>79288932

Better learn to love personalities and not appearances real quick, my man. Most women look like shit once they approach 50.

>>79280873
why did you put utopia in quotes

How do people still not understand this fucking film?

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>>79291052
yup

CRISPR will usher in the ultimate age of white supremacy

>>79278728
Because it's 90210 Space Nazis. I contributes to the satire.

>>79296383
I'd hit it.

>>79280628
This

Predicted 9/11

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>>79279820
Did she heard the call?

>>79280928
She wad also a he and dies in the first chapter.
Spoilers

>>79279770
>directors cast their own movies

Casting By
Elaine J. Huzzar
Johanna Ray

www.imdb.com/title/tt0120201/fullcredits/