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Okay, finally got done with ep 1.

Holy shit man, that was like a fever dream. Reminds me of times when I was a kid and there'd be stuff on PBS but I couldn't really process it, so now it's just a glitchy mess of images.

I'm digging the characters (Dan "Real Nigga" Stevens plays an excellent twitchy mentally unstable guy) and the cinematography/editing is fucking superb at disorienting you and making you question what's supposed to be real. I'm interested in seeing where all this goes but if all the episodes have this strange level of quality I'm all the way in.
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I really hope they have to budget to maintain the look the pilot had.

Because it could be the best looking tv capeshit yet if it's funded.
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>>79254240
Aside from the ending where they're going through the battlefield I have to agree (something about that high frame rate look combined with the flinging niggas into the sun looked real fake and weird).

Also it's kind of a shame that they killed off Aubrey Plaza so damn early but since supposedly she's embedded in his subconscious now we'll probably see more of her.
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idk why people had problems with the battlefields episode.. they had a mutant that could move objects so he was shielding bullets
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I checked this out even though I thought Noah Hawley's last show Fargo was overrated as hell. Not impressed. Its cinematic evocation of madness is pretty cliche, fisheye lens, blurring the edge of the frame, kooky french music. Yeah ok I get it already, he's crazy. Also the writing was cringe inducing "What if what society calls madness is actually our strength?" romanticizing of mental illness. Doubt I'll tune in next week,
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>cool poster and title
Yay
>Capeshit
Nay
>9.8
Yay
>Less than 200 votes
Nay
>Only one episode
Fuck it let's go
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>>79254395
>Also the writing was cringe inducing "What if what society calls madness is actually our strength?" romanticizing of mental illness.
Yeah, that kinda stung a little. Like are you really gonna try and go there with that shit

Though to be fair she could have been alluding to the fact that she knew David was a FILTHY MUTIE.
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>>79254395
The girl is either a split personality of David's who wants him to cut loose or she's a real person who's trying to recruit him for her mutant terrorist cell.
Either way, she'd really want him to reject the mental hospital and break out.
Also if this show is pondering mental issues then the old notion of "We're all the way we are supposed to be, just embrace the madness"-idea needed to pop up at some point.
Then you add in the fact that David is literrally not just imagining everything and it's doubly important for this sentiment to come up.

tl;dr: there is purpose to her stating this idea and it's not just the director climbing on his soapbox and saying "let's all be quirky together xD"
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So Whatsup with the lil fat nigga? Is he a real demon?
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>>79254589
I know some fans think it's Mojo due to the look of him but if they're going with the history of the character, then it's most likely Shadow King's human form.
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So at what point is he going to cause Age of Apocalypse?
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>>79254183

Im on the same level as you OP, they used so many slightly off tint elements in the show that I couldn't stop watching.

I nearly wet my pants when they pan the camera in and change aspect ratio for one of the memory sequence. A lot of the people might find faults with the writing and other directions, but the cinematography was on point.
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Really liked it, a lot. I liked Dan Stevens a lot from The Guest so it was great to see him in this, he was good. The effects were great as well, a lot of good practical stuff.

I hope the plot is as strong as the aesthetic, it certainly has potential and I enjoy a show that pushes me to think and that one that doesn't give away everything easily.

It was also well filmed and edited and a very good looking show in terms of sets and props.
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>those techies with the beanies were basically Sentinels
my sides
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>>79254333

It did look odd frame rate wise, and the flinging while awesome did look very obviously fake but I still really enjoyed that ending and everything else about it was great. The flinging was still good and while not perfect, for TV is was good and didn't ruin it for me.
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>>79254784
Holy shit anon, nice catch, thats fucking hilarious
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I watched it. It's literally Plebbit incarnate and made me miss Hannibal.
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>>79254395

Which season of Fargo you didn't like? I thought 1 was great all around, Billy Bob in Fargo is one of the best characters in anything. I loved the ending of the first season.

The second season had great shoot outs and every scene involving a gun or a fire fight was awesome and great to see but the plot ran wild and unhinged at the end.

I'm hoping season 3 brings it back a little more, I don't mind a complete copy of the Fargo movie formula if you give me great characters and actors. I didn't think anyone particularly stood out in Fargo S2.
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>>79254832
Bear was based.
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>>79254818
>literally Plebbit incarnate
Yeah but what did you think of the show
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>>79254666
May just be one of his more evil personalities that stalks his mind.
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I'm just really fucking confused cause I know nothing about his story in the comics. The show was very pretty though. Can't wait for next week.
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>Reminds me of times when I was a kid and there'd be stuff on PBS

Shit, good memories of COME AND ZOOM, that stupid fucking laughing baby sun, the Noo Noo, time for tubby bye bye, and so forth. Good times. Having a fever, being severely dehydrated, and feeling high as fuck made it all the better.
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>>79254892
He's Charles Xavier's son hence why he's an Omega-level Mutant
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>>79254784
What?
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quick.
give me a short /tv/ approved synopsis of this show.
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>>79254959
audrey plaza plays a man in this
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>>79254982
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so if i get this right
-mutant is in mental hospital -meets girl who is also mutant -she's supposed to get out with -he kisses her by mistake and body switch shenanigans happens -he gets out instead in her body -she freaks out cuz she's in a body of a dude with crazy power and causes a major incident (giving a bazooka to a baby line) in the mental hospital -it wears off, they switch back -he gets captured and interrogated about the incident -they come and rescue him

?? Right?
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>>79254832
I only watched the 1st season, I thought it was pretty good to start with but ultimately had kind of a shrug of an ending. It felt like it was trying to say something critical about masculinity, with Martin Freeman's character being seduced by Billy Bob's devilish "Don't take any shit" lifestyle guide which eventually leads him to ruin. It kept contrasting predatory law of the jungle types with Molly the cop, and Colin Hanks who were good people, but in the end Colin Hanks shoots unarmed Billy Bob in cold blood for no good reason except for revenge/pride (he wanted to protect his family but he could have just had Billy Bob arrested at that point) and I'm left wondering what the point was.
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>>79254751
>I nearly wet my pants when they pan the camera in and change aspect ratio for one of the memory sequence
lol i loved that
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>>79255067
Yup, you got it
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>>79254892
>I know nothing about his story in the comics
He was mostly a villain/obstacle/plot device for almost his entire existence in comics. He's only had one single 20 issue story about 5 years ago that did something more with him and ended up being pure kinocomic.
They're not really adpating that though. They're not directly adapting anything he was involved with, by the looks of it.
Outside of taking cues for his character traits and taking the spirit and the mood of a few things, this show is gonna be its own thing.
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>>79255067
Nope. The girl is also one of his personalities.
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>>79254892
The basics.

He has multiple personalities. David is the main personality and is a Mutant with Telekenetic abilities. His real mutant ability is that he can make any other mutant ability. His personalities generally have different mutant abilities.
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>>79255167
i'm starting to wonder if it's going to be a twist reveal about ptonomy, Carrie, and Syd since

some of the personalities he's absorbed are, a telekinetic, a pyrokinetic, and a telepath
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>>79255167
This is up for debate.
She may literally be a mutant who has the - circumstancially highly fucking confusing - ability to swap personalities on skin contact.
She may also just be a split personality though. It's impossible to tell at this point.
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>>79254995
When did Aubrey Plaza become Benicio Del Toro
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What the fuck happened at the war scene? The show looked really nice up that point. It was pretty bad. Looked like some kind of demo reel that a guy using Adobe after effects would upload to Youtube in 2010. Felt extremely lazy
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>>79255269
it might purposefully looked strange because none of those other characters are physically there, just manifestations of his personalities/powers
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>>79255231
Syd is a multiple personality. At least that girl with the same ability is listed as one of his personalities on the wiki. As is the one who was throwing people into the air with his mind
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>>79255317
yeah i'm kinda leaning towards this happening, i think it'd be kind of a cool reveal for non-comic readers
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>>79255292
My brain is fucked. I really hope the break this down in the show for people who don't know anything about his character. That's actually a cool idea.
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>>79254183
anon is leejun
we do not forgive
we do not foget
aspect us
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>>79255231
The whole last scene at the beach looked to me a lot like "now we truly are Legion"
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>>79255269
It's hard to say if it was done purposefully or not. If you notice the music starting and carrying on into different scenes and then suddenly stopping, or the music getting louder and louder. And the various color filters and aspect ratios... all this was done to jar the senses. So here's hoping that scene was also that way, because if not it was terrible in an otherwise great show.
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Is there someone who isn't into capeshit in this thread? If yes, how is it? People are saying it's great but I've been burned with daredevil and jessica jones before
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>>79255549
It's more on par with Fargo and Hannibal than it is with capeshit. The last few minutes is pure capeshit though.
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>>79255578
That being said, he is pretty much the most powerful mutant in existence.
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>>79255549
Check it out. Most of the episode is nothing like the other shit.
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>>79254892
Xavier's son with some Jew nurse.
Split personality each personality has different ability.
Little girl personality was pyrotechnic I think
Eventually he makes himself better and no longer schizo. All powers combined, more powerful than his dad.

Blames magneto for getting in the way of his dream of mutant co-exist. + why his dad never tried to help him.

Travels back in time to kill magneto, ends up killing Xavier his dad. Age of apocalypse timeline starts
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>>79255733
>pyrotechnic
Chuckled.
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>>79255578
>>79255678
Okay thanks will do
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Just tried it out, I am pretty mixed about it. As a note I didn't even realize this is part of the X-Men universe or even capeshit in general until I read this thread afterwards, also I never watch capeshit TV shows because they all look terrible.

I really like the main character and I'm very interested to see how his story unfolds, he steals every scene he's in due in no small part to the actor. Also I know this isn't everyone's cup of tea but slow-mo awakening of powers are my guilty pleasure in any piece of media and it happens in this episode like 3 times.

On the other hand, I felt like the episode as a whole dragged on for too long, not because it was boring, but because for one full hour, not a lot of stuff happened. For the first 5 minutes I was very impressed to have seen his childhood and life events up until present day and I was hoping the show would keep that same fast pace of information, but then we get the sloooow introduction of the blonde chick (which also came with what that other anon pointed out, terrible writing - mental issues being what makes you unique really triggered me). I know it's not what the word actually means but for now I don't know how else to say it other than 'filler': felt like you could easily make it a half-hour episode and no information would be missed, if the show was better executed. But I dunno, maybe that's just me. Oh, and the battlefield ending was terrible.

I'm gonna give it two more episodes before I make the decision of keeping it or dropping it, but for now I'm leaning towards dropping it. Lead character being interesting is not enough to carry a show for me.
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Anybody got a link?
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>>79254183

I'm 100% serious right now, I came in my pants while watching this episode. I didn't even notice cumming, I just went to go pee after the episode was over, and my dick was covered in dried semen.

Does that mean that this show is good?
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>>79258000
Sometimes when you fap too much you get an extra discharge whenever, you don't even have to be erect for it

Bodies are weird man
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>>79258128
>mfw came while asleep

i thought that was a myth or something
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>>79258165
You thought wet dreams were a myth?
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>>79254183
>making you question what's supposed to be real
these guys in the front look like Dan and the QT
lso these were who played pingpong , init
and Plaza is with them
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>>79254333
this.
yeah the thrown away dudes looked silly, but that it was shot as longshot, it gave some artsy feel back to it
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>>79255413
Don't worry. People who are familiar with his character have no idea what's real either. Like other people have said, the main takeaway is that he has all sorts of mental problems and struggles to know what's real and to maintain control. He also has over a thousand different personalities and each one carries a different mutant powers (he's one of the most OP characters in the marvel universe) but he has little control over them and is more often than not his own worst enemy.

None of the other stuff from the comics seems to matter (eg. him being Xavier's estranged son).

My guess is the show will keep the viewer disoriented for a good chunk of the series.
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>>79258235
Well, I didn't exactly have anything to go on. Seemed kind of strange that yer brain and balls would get together while a piece of your brain sleeps, and then jerk off.
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>>79258679
Wait so he actually has brain issues and it wasn't just him (and everyone else) misunderstanding his power?
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>>79254183
Am I the only person bothered that he had switched to her body, and we never get to see him with her body fondle her naked lady bits?
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>>79259009
This has got to be the most patrician fetish
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>>79259072
Surr, but the show had the most relevant opportunity, and purposely avoided it. Aubrey Plaza's character even says it as a joke, and still it was avoided.

Is this show going to avoid every opportunity to visualize any sexual fantasies just to fill the pc quota?
That means this will be less art for the sake of art, but more pc bs like everything else.
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what's up with the walmart guy?
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>>79255242
You literally see his room door opening and closing without her getting in
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cute
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was there any nudity?

this will determine if i watch it
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>>79259281
PG-13â„¢ safe
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>>79259337
are you 12? there is porn ecerywhere on the net, why would a fucking show need it?
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>>79257322
>mental issues being what makes you unique
That wasn't what that was about, though.
She was specifically talking about David and his condition, she just couldn't go "You're a mutant, Harry" in the middle of a psych ward.
She's either already a personality of David's or she was sent to the hospital to get David out of there.
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Who else can't wait that after going "Tee hee this isn't connected to the movies" for months, in the finale McAvoy/Stewart will appear in David's visions.
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>>79259337
zero nudity
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>>79258905
Yea, he's bonkers
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>>79254666
>Mojo
Looks about right
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>>79259379
I am not 12, and as a heterosexual male whose proud to embrace what I am, I welcome nudity. It is human to enjoy seeing fit naked people. Stop denying your humanity, and I promise you'll be happier with life instead of pretending it is beneath you.
Such denial is a foolish facade.
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>>79254183
So is this series about glorifying mental illness? The show looks nice and all but I find it hard to continue watching after that Einstein comparison. It being capeshit doesn't help much either.
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>>79260025
>this is coming from a guy who literally said the presence of nudity determines whether he watches a show or not
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>>79260086
First of all I am not the same person, and again your self inflicted shame of seeing nudity or prejudice against others is exactly the kind of dehumanization that has gone on for far too long.
I'm tired of people ashamed of being human, and shaming nudity.
This same arrogance is exactly what leads to people calling people sluts, whores, etc.
To dehumanize, to distance us from being human, to carry on this idea that being human is bad, evil, wrong I'll never accept.
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>>79260025
>show runtime per episode is already limited as it is so every minute should count to make a show great
>but I'm supposed to boringly watch some sex scenes that have nothing to do with anything except pleasing the 2mature4u crowd of underage who think seeing tits on screen is a big deal
Rectify is the biggest transgressor of this and that's why whoever tells me that show is good is a peasant with shit taste in my eyes.
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>>79254183
>mentioning cinematography

dropped. I fucking hate pretentious jackasses.
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>>79260071
>glorify mental illness
considering his mental illness causes the death of many people and destroys lives, you have an odd definition of glorify.
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>>79260546
Debating too much over adequate story will always be a problem to discuss, but if the game is to be honest, or dehumanize I rather honesty even if it is a bit salacious.

There should be a level from which we're able to see what is acceptable, as opposed to the truly deviant fetishes with children. A child is not mature enough to have sex of their own experienced reasoning.
One of the biggest problems is by demonizing all sex or nudity the more deviant fetishes all become grouped as one, even though there is clearly a difference.
The dehumanizing, and demonizing of all makes the truly deviant acts indistinguishable.
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What hapened to the swat guy in pic? we hear bones crushing, as the camera moves to the gang, but can't see if the gang would've saved David. Did David freed himself?

>>79260707
unlike snyder or refn, this guy proved with 2 season of Fargo that his works are not ONLY about cinematography but overall great movie experience.
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>>79261318
>memorizing directors names

dumb fanboyposter. I come here to watch movies, not read about tabloid nonsense. only pathetic celebrity worshippers care about who made whatever
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>>79254183
Is this worth watching ir not?
Convince me either way, please.
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Can't pass up on Dan Stevens.
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>>79261373
It's a film and television board. Why wouldn't you know directors' names?

>>79261421
It's one episode. Check it out.
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>>79261373
lol okay. if you'll grow up a bit you'll realize not your favourite celeb stars, or the number of sexy scenes give the quality of the movie, but who made it.
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>>79261490
because it's totally irreverent trivia? Do you know the name of the sound designer or the stagehands too?
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>>79261490
>hate capeshit
>but always thought x-men was okay
>loved fargo
>hate fx
TELL ME WHAT TO DO, /TV/
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>>79261535
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>>79261541
if you like the trailer, watch it
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anyone have torrent link?
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>>79261541
it's so disconnected from X-Men, with the exception of the Us vs Them mutant war, there's zero references so far to anything comic outside of the main character.

at least until Sweeps Week/Logan release than I'm pretty sure we'll get the BIG something.

It's probably better for non X-Men fans, since we already know for the most whose who among the cast.
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>>79261651
yeah the torrent sites

>>79261725
i was x fan as a kid but never came across Legion arcs, so i don't know any of them.

Syd "Don't touch my skin!"-thing gave me the thought she could be Rogue ... and the throwing man's power resembles Magneto .. but probably they're not them
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>syd is the grill that got ded'ed in fargo s2
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>>79262220
yeah she was dumb cunt there... but she's a QT here .. so far
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>>79254395
I think this director doesn't believe in mental illness per se'. Maybe that there are curable conditions but we are living in the post-crazy era. People know what I am talking about so won't derail but it feels like almost everything non-violent has already become normalized.
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Legion had a great start story/character wise, but I hope to god the director fucks off after the pilot, it was horribly directed - tried way too fucking hard to be artsy
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Started watching because of noah and because it was compared to pushing daises.

don't like capeshit, but this is pretty great. will keep watching.
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>>79254395
Well.. you know his madness literally is his strength right? Hes a mutant. Did you not know this is mutants from Marvel?
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>>79254818
I wouldn't go that far - I think plebbit will act like its the greastest thing since sliced bread maybe but I agree that artistically it was shit and I kept thinking of how truly special Hannibal is for pulling off its artistic direction. It has a good story/cast so far hopefully it pans out.
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>>79255125
Great run that was. Hopefully the show can utilize such a complex char.
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pls post webm of dance scene, it was true kino
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>>79254333
honestly it felt like they were training in the Danger Room.
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>>79254818
Everything makes me miss Hannibal lately.
This was so blunt and unsophisticated in its' approach to the overall theme as well as the state of the main character. Just sequences of chaotic scenes to make up for the lack of build-up. The one-two romance, even if Syd turns out to be just a fragment of his imagination, made cheap teen rom-dram shows look like intricate love stories. None of the characters felt like actual people - David being a wobbly exception. Not to mention the cheap and derivative portrayal of people with mental health problems. It had some neat shots and interesting sets but that's about it.
I'm not even disappointed, this experience just allowed me to put things into perspective.
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>>79263469
Why are people praising Hannibal? I have seen few episodes but i dropped it because of the killer of the week bullshit.
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>>79263640
It's the ultimate style over substance show and /tv/ people really love style for some reason

Also because of homolust
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>>79263786
I can't tell if you're talking about Hannibal or Legion
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>>79263786
Well i enjoyed the style of the show but that murders of the week were really weak. Are really majority of people on /tv/ faggots?
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>>79263786
Substance and style are well balanced but it's not a show that offers instant gratification in terms of resolution, that's why the visual aspect is highly accentuated and made to please. You need more patience for following thinner threads that eventually lead to a plot culmination. There's nothing wrong with that, I'm not criticizing your taste, we all have different preferences.

>>79263640
>>79264188
Only the first season of Hannibal has the killer of the week for some of the episodes, but they dropped it pretty much for the rest of the show.
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>Implying you wouldn't go home and masturbate the second you found yourself in Rachel Keller's body, at least play with her tits / ass

D R O P P E D

This show is so unrealistic.
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>>79264382
>>79264188
>>79263786
>>79263640
>>79263469
Hannibal fags gtfo
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>>79254832
That's Fargo in a nutshell. Flashy (but not uniquely so) empty shit that passes itself off as if it has actual substance. Legion is the same.
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>>79265107
Meant for
>>79255088
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>>79264633
Hey now. It's just comparisons and discussions of preferences, no reason to be so dismissive. I'll keep watching Legion despite subjectively enjoying Hannibal more. There isn't too much going on in here at the moment anyway.
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Just finished it. It was ok until the full on super hero shit started, then I lost all interest with the low-budget CGI shitfest battle as they escaped the pool place.

The only reason I even watched it was due to Noah Hawley, but it's pretty clear this will just turn into another capeshit tv show.
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>>79254183
It was underwhelming.
I am seriously concerned about the way the show will go since they made few key mistakes and I want to see more of what we saw today.

For one they cleared whats real whats not way too soon,I expected at least 4 episodes that will be the uplift to his powers and the world he is in,instead we got good introduction with questionable scenes and effort put in not to mention a bit too stylized.
That style will turn off normies for sure,I am willing to bet that more than half of the people will drop the show after this first episode because they find the pictures confusing.
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>>79265199
nah. journalists got to see the first 3 episodes, they wrote it stays like the 90% of the ep1, skizo shit, and not that actiony part.

Also, i think it was neat they made that scene (look) a longshot, without (visible) cuts.
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>>79265344
my friend who isn't a comic lover was really confused but said he enjoyed the hell out of it, the nice thing about it was he was so interested in any theories and backstories that he kept asking questions about the comics and there was this spark of delight in his eye. But I do agree, I've been seeing a lot of comments in other places of people saying they had to do a multiple watch to really understand what was going on, but I'm seeing more positives than negative reactions.
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>>79265344
>confusing
you underestimate people don't you think
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>>79254183
Enjoy season 1 while it lasts.

Its all downhill from here. Its always all downhill from season 1. You know im right...

This show is gonna get taken over by reddit so fast
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>>79265515
>>79265344
that scene there, where he changes from Syd to David is confusing a bit, but i guess it will be explained somehow later
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>>79265549
>gonna get taken over by reddit
a show made by fucking MARVELâ„¢? get the fuck out no way
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>>79265515
Not that guy but I popped into the /co/ thread for this last night just to see what people were saying as the thread here was moving slow a first and quite a few people were complaining about how there was no fighting and no characters from the X-Men that they know and love. Maybe they were trolling, idk how they do it over there.
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>>79265459
>I'm seeing more positives than negative reactions.
That goes without saying there are a lot of teens that are getting into superheroes,hell my younger bother is 17 and besides the x-men and marvel movies he hasnt touched a comic in his life,yet he declares as a huge fan of comic-book stories.

This episode went too fast,introduced way too many things at once,it was way to stylized,and skipped on a good chink of the introduction story meaning this is headed for just another superhero movie like that garbage Arrow or flash or dare?? whatever was called.

>>79265515
Dude please I dont underestimate anyone,people just dont like anything that is not clear as day.
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Does this share universe with X-men movies?
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>>79265699
Like it matters.
Just enjoy it for what it is,not like the X-Men story is any god in the first place.
There are 10 different writers for 10 different issues so whatever.
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20 mins in rn, really like the set design and wardrobes
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>>79265737
I haven't seen it yet. Just wondering.
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>>79265737
>is any good*
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>>79265770
Alright then,give it a try and keep us posted.
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>>79262426
Still BLACKED so dropped
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>Aubrey Plaza
>in anything good
Dropped. She is literally the worst
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>>79265913
implied blaceding counts too?
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>>79265699
Not yet. Think it's just some alternate universe.
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>>79261318
The dude is in the ground in the next shot so I'm assuming he took care of it himself.
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>>79265943
some spoilers here

i was happy as hell that she got a really gruesome death, but then being a comic fan, i forgot he pretty much gets "haunted" by personalities who die near him.
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>>79265992
>alternate universe
As always resorting to the shitiest excuse for not being able to provide coherent script.
I hate this so much.
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>greedy fat dwarf jew terrorizing the main protagonist

is this a tv show or the real world?
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The characters that helped him escape are all imaginary/his personalities
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>>79265943
I literally wanted to punch her face
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>>79266194
So is this everything in his head?
Is he still in a hospital?

Or he escaped but totally alone?
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watched the first episode while sick

got really dizzy from the first half of it and had to pause it like 20 times to recover
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>>79266232
he escaped it's just he absorbs dead mutants as his personalities so these people were real before but most likely dead.

it gets confusing since in the comics, some of the personalities he absorbed turned out to be alive.
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>>79266339
Have you tried not being sick?
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Okay so please tell me this I rewatched that scene but I still can't understand nothing.

He switched a body with the grill, and he left the hospital, during the next scene he goes to his sister and he has his body again. I didn't understand this.
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>>79266433
her power wore off on him, they eventually switched back properly during the scene of him having lunch outside.
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>>79266433
It's not a permanent switch. It's like when Rogue absorbs powers in the comics and lasts for a few hours then wears off.
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