>we want the 'The Revenant' audience

>>79174519
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCKwtUXyU1k

Scorsese's most mediocre film ever

>>79174888

Name one film better than Silence and dont Say Taxi Driver/Goodfellas. Its not the late 80s anymore.

>>79174888
Trips confirm. I thought the ending was pretty good except for the very very last scene inside the jar.

>>79175025
Uhhh Casino? The Departed (lel)?

>>79174519
>we want the edgy christian audience

>>79175075

Casino is overrated and The Departed is decent.

Silence is a masterpiece.

>>79174519
Scorsese's been trying to make this for decades

>>79175025
>>79175075
Casino, Goodfellas, Departed are teen movies.

>>79175364
nah teens don't watch that stuff

>>79175681
yeah its for 10 year old boys

>>79174519
oh look, it's an edgy plebs can't into a great movie bc it portrays catholicism in a positive light episode

>>>>>/r/atheism

>>79174519
Except Silence and The Revenant couldn't be more different lol

>>79174888
Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore is Scorsese'a most mediocre film. Probably always will be.

>>79175926
Uh noone said anything about that in this thread until you brought that up...

>>79175965
That was prime scorsese you pleb

>>79176058
no it really isn't

>>79174519
I loved The Revenant and mediocred Silence.

>>79175988
Doesn't need to be said, it's obvious. This isn't the first thread about the movie either.

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>>79176562
>Doesn't need to be said
Person brought it up anyways... cmon man

>>79175039
Yeah, Scoursese could have made a cool statement on how religions are basically the same. Instead he had to ruin it with that shit.

>>79176788
Yeah I have to agree with you... but I can totally see why they did it. Was it in the book as well?

>>79176788
>>79176970
>durr all religions are basically the same

Except they aren't, and that's about as deep as a high schooler reading Nietszche quotes.

And the movie had absolutely nothing to do with that.

Holy shit get off this board.

>>79176482
That is because you have no taste and inarritu does literally nothing except pander to pleb sensibilities (dude ridiculously complicated long takes dude almost killing actors dude they eat raw animal parts for real)

I don't mind those things if in done in service to making the movie better, but those stunts and charades are basically the entire basis of revenant

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1/3

I thought Silence was rather poor.

Watching the first half-hour, I thought a little of Bresson, in particular, how Bresson in any given film - but let's specify Au Hasard Balthazar for the sake of argument - could convey sublime, complex emotions with simple shots of nature combined with simple sound effects and/or music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FED1zl5p-kA

By comparison, Silence, in equivalent such moments, felt utterly flat.

Second issue that comes to mind with the film, the lack of any felt cultural texture. Wolf of Wall Street comes to mind by comparison. The film gave us a deep dive into a variety of cultures and subcultures. And not just Wall Street. Also, for example, the brief sequence when Jordan sold stock from a very cheap shop after initially losing his glamour job. The sequence was not very long, but it vividly conveyed the culture of this relatively shitty boiler room sales outfit.

Likewise, think of the cultural texture in Seven Samurai, or even in the rather minimalist Au Hasard Balthazar.

By comparison, the feeling or expression of cultural texture in Silence was flat and uninspired.

Third point: the film was lacking in drama, the essence of which is conflict. The dramatic scenes that got into the heart of the film's thematic material were mostly confined to the last half-hour or so, mostly the scenes with Liam Neeson. These were probably the strongest scenes in the film, but they weren't great scenes, and a solid half-hour or so does not a good two-and-a-half-hour movie make.

Anywho, I did have a thought about the ending of the film: it is autobiographical.

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>>79178716

In the ending of Silence, Scorsese is expressing, as he nears the end of his life, his mixed, but somewhat tragic feeling about his relationship to Christianity and the Catholic Church.

Scorsese famously once thought he had a vocation to the priesthood. Instead he became a film director, and a very successful, world-famous one who was able to fully indulge himself in the pleasures of the flesh.

Silence ends with a long epilogue in which we see a dispirited Rodrigues going about his work as an apostasized priest, carefully checking for Christian contraband that Dutch traders attempt to smuggle into Japan. Then he dies and his body is burned, but it is revealed to us that he clutches a small crucifix in his hand, a possible sign that he has retained his faith despite his apparent apostasy.

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>>79178754

3/3

Thomas Merton once wrote:

Every one of us is shadowed by an illusory person: a false self.

This is the man that I want myself to be but who cannot exist, because God does not know anything about him. And to be unknown of God is altogether too much privacy.

My false and private self is the one who wants to exist outside the reach of God's will and God's love – outside of reality and outside of life. And such a self cannot help but be an illusion...

For most of the people in the world, there is no greater subjective reality than this false self of theirs, which cannot exist. A life devoted to the cult of this shadow is what is called a life of sin.

All sin starts from the assumption that my false self, the self that exists only in my own egocentric desires, is the fundamental reality of life to which everything else in the universe is ordered.

Thus I use up my life in the desire for pleasures and the thirst for experiences, for power, honour, knowledge and love, to clothe this false self and construct its nothingness into something objectively real.

**And I wind experiences around myself and cover myself with pleasures and glory like bandages sin order to make myself perceptible to myself and to the world, as if I were an invisible body that could only become visible when something visible covered its surface.**

End quote (New Seeds of Contemplation)

It is merely an intuition, but I sense that Scorsese feel like the man who has "wound experience around himself and covered himself with pleasure and glory to make himself" perceptible to himself and to the world.

But he carries still in his heart the Christ he encountered as a child and a young man, and holds fast the cross with humble faith as he approaches his final end.

Before the final credits, the film has a brief epitaph: "Ad majorem Dei gloriam". Often abbreviated AMDG, this the Latin motto of the Jesuits: For the greater glory of God.

>andrew gayfield
dropped
when will they stop with this shitty meme actor

>>79178933
dubs confirm. i couldn't stop laughing at how shit he acted at times during the movie.