Strategy, maps, coordinated battles

I think Oliver Stones Alexander did show overhead shots of the battlefield with the units marked out

Seven Samurai did have the Samurai making a map of the village and the surroundings and discussing how they will fortify it and flood the patties, so that gives the audience an idea of whats going on

Most people aren't autistic and don't need maps and in-depth formation shit.

>>79158585
Movies rarely bother. What you need is some Ken Burns Civil War.

>>79158635
Came here to post this.

>>79158619
>autistic
There's that word again.

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>>79158608
>Seven Samurai did have the Samurai making a map
Yeah, but it was pretty much just a rough layout of the village and not informative enough.

>>79158619
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like your average Joe opinion was welcome here.

>>79158682
>Yeah, but it was pretty much just a rough layout of the village and not informative enough.
what else do you need? its a peasant farm village

>>79158585
Because show, don't tell. It doesn't work narratively to stop for a lesson on tactics in the middle of a story; you show it happening onscreen in the actual battle.

>>79158682
>Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like your average Joe opinion was welcome here.

kek'd

I think that's mainly a documentary thing. Most films won't show an info graphic because let's face it, it's too much detail and stylistically poor. What they do is have them explain the strategy or show it during the battle.
Seven samurai does explain it, in detail since for the most part it isn't a conventional battle. I think last samurai gets into somewhat detail too, or at least it shows.

>>79158585
The Expanse. It's gonna have a lot of that on season 2 and onwards as the Rocinante crew will become space police

>>79158585
Not a traditional war movie but Ender's game showed something like that. Battles were all about strategy.

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>>79158720
>what else do you need? its a peasant farm village
https://youtu.be/y34-F_KX0ic?t=4534
The map thing lasts 11 minutes between normal scenes, is pretty unclear and its orientation changes all the time.
Blue = flood, Red = break, Pink = one is where the enemy comes from, the other is the "dangerous place" they mention.

It just gives a vague notion of what's going on.
I agree it would be asking too much for a detailed blueprint or tactics explained in such an old movie, though. But modern ones could easily do it, specially with 3D effects.

Most people here are arguing about form, but I think a well-presented cross-section of a castle (for instance) could make for an interesting way to narrate a planning phase.

>>79158794
>Because meme, meme meme.
Aw, man, fuck you. Are you seriously going down that road?
There are hundreds of movies based on preparing a plan for almost the entirety of the screentime, making the waiting part of the experience. You won't convince me with that shitty rule of thumb for wannabe writers.

>>79158852
Yeah, documentaries are somewhat more detailed, probably because they don't have actual footage and have to explain in those terms. Too bad it's more of a last resort than anything.

>last samurai
Really? Might give it a try.

>>79158997
>make a proper response
>lol meme fuckoff
You deserve whatever shitposting you get

>>79159024
Look past the meanie words and focus on the argument, you're (hopefully) no longer under 18.
But I mean, you ARE pushing a babby's first screenwriting technique here.

>>79158997
>Really? Might give it a try.
Nah, don't if you think 7 samurai didn't do a good job. I mean it's a good movie, and as far as I remember it does show how the battle progresses (clashing, artillery, infantry, cavalry positions) but it's not that detailed. I might also be wrong about that.

Man, now you got me worked up over imagining a scene where some young guy asks <insert famous general here> about how they won a specific battle.

And it is shown through flashbacks, and physical props, and overhead shots, and all sorts of shit. That would be tight as hell.

Just read a book nigger.

>>79158585
Your examples are pretty bad. All of those have really clear geography, except for Black Hawk Down but that one constantly zooms out to show the map and relative positions of the groups.

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We just need a few top down shots, why is it so hard?

>>79159429
>what is budget

>>79159429
It's excusable when there are technology limits. Kurosawa is really good, Yojimbo climbing a tower to see the fight was great

>>79158585
Battle Of Britain

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>>79158585
You can come with far better examples, some of those are god tier in that regard.
pic of shit battle scene

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What did Jackson mean by this?

>>79159622
Sauron didn't read sun tzu
>To a surrounded enemy, you must leave a way of escape.

>>79159227
Now imagine dozens of corridors being filled up by computer-generated soldiers, World War Z style.

Sounds fun as hell.