>tfw too intelligent for linear communication

This movie's plot is death process

>>79126735
I kekked anon

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What did they mean by that?

>>79128892
a scorpion eats its tail

>>79128892
Time is a le flat circle.
Rust is death process.

>>79128892
dude ouroboros lmao

>>79128892
>stop watching this shit film and do something productive

>>79128892
Would be cool if humans could communicate by ejaculating on glass

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>>79126735
you're a big heptapod

>>79129088
>>79129088
>>79129088
>>79129088

>>79128892
Ryzen imminent

Inb4 back to /g/

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>>79129181
>ryzencucks

>>79128892
>half life 3 confirmed

>>79130037

>post ends in 7
>there are 4 Half-Life games (HL1, HL2, 2 episodes)
>4 - 7 = 3

HALF-LIFE 3 FUCKING CONFIRMED

>>79130037
>>79130093
>>>/reddit/
>>>/pol/

>>79130115
>Half-Life 3 is /pol/ now

wew lad

>>79130202
Are you retarded ? I'm implying /pol/ is reddit

>>79130278

Well you did a poor job of conveying that. /pol/ still has nothing to do with HL3 memes.

>>79130356
How can someone be this fucking dumb, I will never understand

>>79130202
/v/ """""""humor""""" is reddit around here friendo, you need to go back.

>>79130582

Everything is reddit around here. Reddit is to /tv/ what Jews are to /pol/.

>>79126735
What the fuck is this?

>We're still friends, right?
What did he mean by this?

what movie?

>>79132530
nigga seriously?

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>>79132530
Debarkation

>>79132530
I want to know too

>>79129081
I'd be a fucking poet.

can someone who has seen it spoil me the plot?

>>79132724
Mommy Adams is sex.

Temba, his arms open wide.

>>79132669
looks pretentious as fuck

>>79126735
Anyone else thought that Costello and Abbott would just be the hands of a single Alien?

>>79132796
Thought the same, bro.

I blame war of the worlds

>>79132715
No because you can type on a computer and yet you waste all your time shitposting on an alien glass inking board.

>>79132796
I also did think that yes.

>>79132817
Speaking of
The sounds they made were eerily similar to tripod roars

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>>79128892

Prequel to the ring

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>Denis Villeneuve

>>79128892
Nothing. They left a coffee cup on the glass.

>tfw no sex process

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>>79132845

>>79129081
>implying we can't

>>79132724
There's a huge explosion and everybody fucking dies, the end

>>79133100
>>79129081

t.b.h. the most efficient method of transfering information by far is ejaculating inside a vagina

>>79133160
I guess I'm fucking illiterate.

>>79133160
Woah, dude

>>79129088
kek process

>>79132724
The beggining of the movie is actually the ending

That's all you need to know

Arrival is part of a recent series of movies I'd describe as Dunning-Kruger Sci-Fi. Along with Interstellar and to a somewhat lesser extent The Martian, they perfectly play to the crowd that fancies themselves as (and, to be fair, may truly be) smarter than average audiences but are not as smart as genuinely "smart people." They are movies designed to make the audience feel smart by introducing complicated and heady concepts, and then holding the viewer's hand the entire way through until there is next to nothing to be left up to interpretation.

If you didn't already know the twist in Arrival by the time she was in the milky section of the ship with the aliens AT LEAST, you perfectly fit the audience I am talking about.

There is no reward for being smart while viewing these movies because everything is eventually spelled out in big fridge magnet letters. Any clever idea is made so transparent that even the most simple in the audience will get it. It also removes any reward for rewatching or trying to figure out what you just saw.

Granted, there is a difference between Arrival and Interstellar. I think where Interstellar was pretending to have a brain it actually didn't have, Arrival has a brain that it is refusing to let the audience use.

Completely disappointing movie.

Also
>so that just happened

>>79133160
>vagina

>>79128892
That's my anal brush lol

>>79133868
Are you sure about your concept of beginning and ending, anon?

Why did they treat linguistics as if it wasn't science in the dialogues?

That was pretty stupid.

>>79134090
because americans think that science = man wearing a labcoat and doing things with big machines and chemicals or something

>>79133160
That's actually true.

>>79132724
dude time lmao


its shit

>>79134194
Also
>hey linguistics professor mom, what's a more "scientific" term for a "win-win situation"?
>uhh I don't know ask your dad he's the science guy

>>79130093
4-7=-3 you autist

>>79128892
laser guided rockets

>>79134090
Erm, it's not that empirical yknow

There is a massive split in considering whether it's an 'art' or a 'science'....

Movie should have been called Autism. This guy is going to shit all over Dune.

>>79133959
>until there is next to nothing to be left up to interpretation.
A ton of the themes of Arrival is left up to viewer interpretation. They explain the bare minimum and then let the viewer try and devise an explanation themselves.

This is why so many people either hated it or didn't "get" it.

Intersteller is just fucking retarded, and The Martian is the definition of dumb people's sci-fi.

>humans meet aliens by accident
>"oh no it's humans."
>"HI ALIENS! WE NEVER SAW ALIENS BEFORE!"
>alien puts its tentacle onto its forehead
>"Why is it here? These things don't even use base 12"
>"HEY ALIENS CAN WE ASK YOU ABOUT YOU AND STUFF?!"
>"These 3-Dimensional beings are the fucking worst."

>>79134090
But that's the whole idea of Ian's character anon.

>I'll have a kid knowing she will die early and never have a chance at a full life, just cuz my feels.
What a bitch.

>>79134768
>dude opposites attract lmao

This movie was boring. 2/5

So the whole plot about her daughter was from the future and she knew her child was going to get a horrible disease and die in agony even before she was conceived but she did it anyway?

>>79135019
No. It was never her choice. She just sees what's going to happen; time is not linear to her, but she cannot change her future. Knowing is not enough.

>>79135105
Are you saying it implies there's no free will? The fact that she can't change things is never established.
I took it as the whole point was accepting the shitty things in life with the good. Only in this case she is creating a human life so she can have good memories, for a few years before it expires, that's fucked up.

>>79135105
So she couldn't not fuck Hawkeye?

>>79135319
>>79135260
She couldn't because of how she was wired. The visions wouldn't be the same if she were capable of wanting to change her future.

>>79135260
You realise everyone dies, right? At least for our generation presumably. Why not have the kid and enjoy her existence?

>>79126764
fpbp

>>79135371
That's the same problem that comes up with most time bs plots tho, it messes with causality. She could just be seeing one version of possible events based on her actions and pick that one. I think you are giving it too much benefit of the doubt.

>>79135260
>The fact that she can't change things is never established.

The movie has a couple big moments that imply there is no free will

>>79134282
>>79133160
DNA contains 135000 terabytes of data

>>79135677
which moments

>>79126735
>not to

>>79135826
>bomb puts alien into death process
>chinaman telling Amy Adams his phone number and wife's dying words
>Renner leaving her because she "made the wrong choice" about having a cancer kid as if she had a choice

Here's the scriptwriter's take on free will:
>The message in [the original short] story was more about Louise embracing the inevitable. It was a very kind of deterministic realization that likely everything is predestined and you just gotta find a way to make peace with that. I was a bit rebellious about that. I'm like "Ted, I don't like that. I don't like that at all." And I said I think it's more profound for me if she has a choice. If she has free will and can change her future and yet she chooses to have Hanna. That to me is more affecting. That gets me, and that's really where I wanted to land on it.

Seems like a dumb move to me 2bh.

>>79135721
Yeah? Well I just uploaded 135000 terabytes into your mom last night

>>79135943
The first one can just be because the allien saw it as her natural end and accepted it like Amy Adams accepted her daughters inevitable death.
The last 2 are just her seeing the future, doesn't relate with her not being able to choose to go for a different path.

>>79135943
How beta do you have to be to accept your death process like that when you knew it would happen in advance?

Abott confirmed for omega tier heptapod.

>>79135260
The idea is time doesn't actually have a direction. Forwards is the same as backwards. Can you change the past?

>>79132724
Alien language lets Amy Adams spoiler alert her own life

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>>79136050
The guy sounds like a fuckin' child.
he took a genuinely thought provoking philosophical quandary and turned it into "lol so brave! Much love for strong womyn!" which we've already heard a gorillion times.

>>79135260
>He thinks free will exists

lmao

>>79136075
The chinaman told her that info for no reason other than he felt like he had to. It was the first and only time he met her in person. He had a determined path like everyone else in the movie

>>79136213
>he can't discern between real life and fiction with non-linear time perception

>>79136068
Wouldn't it be more like 3.3x(10^13) terabytes, because every spermcell contains a DNA each?

>>79136050
The screenwriter can say what he wants but his movie doesn't reflect that she has any choice in the matter

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>>79128892
What did they mean by this?

>>79136206
Seems like he's only written one original script and that was some run-of-the-mill hurricane katrina drama.

>>79136270
>implying there is free will in real life

Some post the

>tfw Abbott is death process

pic

>>79136323
i didn't do that.

you have to be very retarded to read that in my post. i actually implied the opposite.

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>>79136356

Didn't say that? We are discussing what the movie tries to say, m8. But enjoy your false sense of superiority over a philosophical matter.

>>79136397
denks

>>79128892
"Your mother sucks my non-linear dick"

oh wow, those are just their limbs! we can't even see their heads! wonder what it looks like.
>tfw they were just knobs

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>>79133160
that's crazy when you think about it

>>79136449
Oh yeah? Well I had sex with you wife!

>>79126735
Why were they black? Did they evolve to withstand high UV radiation? Have you ever seen a black octopus? Pretty unrealistic desu.

>>79136449
you forgot to reply, anon

>>79136297
she changed the future by using her future-sight to call shang's phone number though

we are all aliens until we get to know eachother/love eachother

>>79136297
Not only does it reflect it, it literally says so outright.

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>>79133160
holy christ

>>79136068
kek

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>>79136397
Rip in rip Abbot

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>>79136638
really made me think

>>79136634
That didn't change the future

>>79136397
>tfw abbot will, was and forever is death process

>>79137210
fuck off cunt

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Let me tell you what's shit about this movie

>woah girl you're so smart, come with us to talk with aliens,
>uhhg no?
>we came in helicopters, what about now?
>okay take me there

>no space left for mystery or wonder, the film left no question other than "what happens in 3000 years latter?", which by the way it does not matter anyway, because the focus of the movies is not aliens it's about UGH CANCER IT'S SUCH A BITCH RIGHT?

>when you learn their language you learn how to see the future
>still, she was the only one with the visions

>that disgusting depression inducing filter, I dont give a fuck if you're actually payed for being a colorist, your job is as stupid as a millennial bitch using Instagram filter into a photo to make it look more deep or interesting, it's fucking horrible, I'm so fucking tired of this trend in photography, design and film

>that bullshit stupid climax, oh kill this bitch she's a traitor, typical american way of writing conflict

>HURRR DURRR HUMANS ARE EVIL, WE'RE SO FUKING ARROGANT WHITE GUILT WHITE GUILT etc.

the movie had great aesthetics and alien/spaceship design and conceptualization, to be honest the whole communication segment was pretty interesting and well executed, visuals and effects were okay, kinda glad they didn't went full capeshit with morbid senseless action

slightly better than that movie where keanu reeves is an ayylium/10, mediocre pretentious sci-fi

>>79126735

Dumb phimosis cock alien

>>79137297
>>HURRR DURRR HUMANS ARE EVIL, WE'RE SO FUKING ARROGANT WHITE GUILT WHITE GUILT etc.

What the fuck are you talking about

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>>79137276
Having a bad day, compadre?

>>79137297

>oh kill this bitch she's a traitor, typical american way of writing conflict

That's standard military procedure, if you're accused of being a spy in a tight situation such the film's climax, you can expect getting shot regardless of where the story is taking place.

>HURRR DURRR HUMANS ARE EVIL, WE'RE SO FUKING ARROGANT WHITE GUILT WHITE GUILT etc.

It's not about humanity being evil, it's simply about humans being unable to communicate and trust each other.

>>79136651
'no'

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>>79133160

>>79136289
Yes but only one is ever used.

Its so strange that a bunch of hyper advanced aliens couldn't figure out how to show humans they want to help.


One of the ayys just had to do something incredible simple as a basic pictogram.
http://sketchtoy.com/67867160
There I just established first contact with humans.

>the best linguist in the world is a woman
>evil china and russkeis are more trigger happy than 'murrica
>and here's the fucking cancer baby that doesn't have anything to do with anything, fuck you
Can we lynch hollywood screenwriters already? I can't handle this any longer.

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>>79137515
what about twins?

>>79126764
Woah lol that's harsh!

>>79137597
anon is autism process

>>79137937
>anon is autism state*

>>79133160
no it isn't. the (haploid) human genome is approximately 3 billion basepairs. if we assume one basepair = one bit, then it would be equivalent to 375 megabyte for one sperm cell. the fastest a sperm can reach an egg is like one hour. keeping it simple, the transfer speed would be 375 mb/hour, which is 104 kbps. WHICH IS SLOW AS FUCK, FAGFACE.

> having kids after your 40s

First world people are crazy

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>>79128892
they meant to cram in symbolism at the price of introducing a really illogical written language.

>>79133979
so the left picture is how it's in the film and the right, what your spergraged mind sees, am I getting it right?

>>79137597

>slavs and chinks
>not savages

>Da humans have to do all the language decoding shit, we iz a bunch of super evolved lazy cunts

>>79137297
>woah girl you're so smart, come with us to talk with aliens,
>uhhg no?

ehh, what are you talking about?

> because the focus of the movies is not aliens it's about UGH CANCER IT'S SUCH A BITCH RIGHT?
no it's not, it's about how a life is more than just the bad parts. It's hard to put in words, so maybe that's why you failed

>still, she was the only one with the visions
we don't know that, she is just the one who understood it the best of the team, then afterwards, who knows?

>that disgusting depression inducing filter, I dont give a fuck if you're actually payed for being a colorist, your job is as stupid as a millennial bitch using Instagram filter into a photo to make it look more deep or interesting, it's fucking horrible, I'm so fucking tired of this trend in photography, design and film
autism

>that bullshit stupid climax, oh kill this bitch she's a traitor, typical american way of writing conflict
they didn't, no said "kill the bitch", they just didn't know what she was doing. I think the movie even presents them in a better light, because the russians that did this were shot. but hey I don't wanna destroy your retarded narrative

>HURRR DURRR HUMANS ARE EVIL, WE'RE SO FUKING ARROGANT WHITE GUILT WHITE GUILT etc.
ok now you're just REEEing
So all in all 0/10 shitpost. Well done anon

>>79137529
but they did, the aliens accomplished everything they wanted. what are you talking about?

>>79128892
>"It ain't gonna suck itself"

>>79132913
a fucking leaf

>>79138778
this was annoying. why would the humans have the initiative in the face of this hyper-evolved space-faring species?

>>79135721
So you're saying I should fuck my computer?

>>79128892
>tfw no gf

>making a baby even if she knew her daughter was going to get cancerdead
is this a non-zero-sum game?

>>79139967
no its a compromise

>>79140021

The better compromise would have been finding out exactly when the worst symptoms of her cancer would start and then killing her to spare the pain you know she'll be forced to suffer through.

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>>79139902

>>79130409
not him but you did do a pretty bad job

>>79140313
truly the only language that transcends space and time

why did people hype this movie so much?

I just watched it and while it was a very well made movie and while it made probably the best out of its source material (the short story) I don't see how it's supposed to be so brilliant.

Is it because I had already read the story beforehand? I wasn't btfo back then, but yeah it's still an interesting story.

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>>79126735
I literally walked out of the theater the moment I realized that it was a nonlinear meme concept movie.

>>79137597
>the best linguist in the world is a woman
Does Noam Chomsky not exist in this universe?

>>79140444
It's not, though.

>>79140479
dont worry pal, memes aren't far down the list either

>>79140605

No, she's the best linguist in the country among a list of people who happen to already have the appropriate security clearance because it's an urgent matter and they don't have time to file new paperwork.

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>>79126735

>>79140710
I guess Noam Chomsky wouldn't have the required clearence either way, the traitorous commie rascal

>>79126735
So these aliens are humans 3,000 years in the future.

>implying alien language can rewire alien brains

Their brains had to be similar in order for the rewiring to work.

>>79140800
>in 3,000 years we evolve into 50 foot tall squid creatures

I don't think you understand just how slowly evolution really is.

>>79140800
They probably died and the humans were clever enough to change their decisions, which saved the alien bros

>>79140846
Maybe something accelerated evolution somehow. Like the Fukushima fallout? Work with us here!

Don't you understand? She altered the future!

>>79137297
http://droppdf.com/v/CtgRV
read this and you'll understand the movie better

Why are aliens so fucking stupid in these movies? When we can't communicate with animals we observe them then figure out how. It takes a few years, at most.

Aliens showing up to a foreign planet and not having the faintest idea how the dominant species communicates is asinine. If they have the intelligence to traverse the galaxyand bother with another planet, they'd spend a few years figuring us out first.

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>>79126735
could someone make that but all brainy

>>79140644
It is, though.

>>79140962
>read a book
Hmmmm

>>79140996
they already knew how we communicated and how we'd react they just needed us to come up to speed and understand their non-linear way of perceiving things and to get us to get along and be friends so we could help them in the future

>>79141113
it's literally just 39 pages long i can read that in like 30 minutes

>>79140996
Would it even be difficult. If they have functioning space travel they have to have an advanced understanding of physics, which requires(?) at the very least a basic knowledge of mathematics. Basic symbols for equality and the like could then be developed by doing easy math, like taking 2 piles of 2 stones and 1 pile of 4 stones and drawing something inbetween to show equality.

>>79140996
Kek, no matter how well they understand our language, they obviously cannot speak or write it, so what does it matter if they understand with pure fluency, if the people you are speaking with still have no fuckig idea what you are saying?

>people who have literally never learnt a language act as if they are expert linguistics

No, your first language which you picked up when you were a child and you cannot even remember does not count.

Acquiring language is very, very, very fucking easy, assuming both parties are on the same page (half of the movie) and both parties are consistent in them learning the language. Because it's alien literally has no bearing on how hard it is to learn.

>>79136302
>in 3000 years you betta smash that mothafuckin like button

>>79138495
You understand how symbolism works right?

The Ouroboros represents infinity as it's a snake eating itself. It's joined, the picture you are linking is explicitly not joined, are you a literal retard?

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Concidentally just finished watching it half an hour ago.
While it was intriguing, I think they could have upped the science aspect some more.

That Louise just somehow learned to have memories from understanding their writing is quite unbelievable.

I also didn't like that the ships just disappeared. At least take the fuck off.

>>79141526
its because in real life you kind of associate ideas differently if you learn another language that's very different from your main language.

they stretched that and came up with the plot that by learning the alien language their brain would get rewired in such a way that time wouldnt work the same for them anymore, and they could see the future

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>>79141208
This is why we would use something like math to communicate.

Why didn't she remember the phone call with the general? It literally saved the world, and she didn't remember even making it?

>>79141656
I very well understood that...

>>79141731

most americans probably didnt as they're mostly monolingual

>>79126735
Is this movie worth watching?

I just downloaded it

>>79126735

>tfw death sequence

>>79141772
yeah well in my case it kind of let me down but downloading movies is free so its ok. its enjoyable despite the bs, like interstellar

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>>79141657
Maths cannot communicate complex ideas such as love and hate, yet.

It's why this is being created.

Download (OR BUY, BUY IT) The Tyranny of Words, expresses the idea of General Semantics.

>Non-Aristotelianism: While Aristotle wrote that a true definition gives the essence of the thing defined (in Greek to ti ên einai, literally "the what it was to be"), general semantics denies the existence of such an 'essence'.[43] In this, general semantics purports to represent an evolution in human evaluative orientation. In general semantics, it is always possible to give a description of empirical facts, but such descriptions remain just that—descriptions—which necessarily leave out many aspects of the objective, microscopic, and submicroscopic events they describe. According to general semantics, language, natural or otherwise (including the language called 'mathematics') can be used to describe the taste of an orange, but one cannot give the taste of the orange using language alone. According to general semantics, the content of all knowledge is structure, so that language (in general) and science and mathematics (in particular) can provide people with a structural 'map' of empirical facts, but there can be no 'identity', only structural similarity, between the language (map) and the empirical facts as lived through and observed by people as humans-in-environments (including doctrinal and linguistic environments).

>>79126735
Why did evolution ever think that was the best shape

>>79141757
I've never been to any of the Americas and speak 4 languages.

It's just that it's really unbelievable that the concept of time itself for a human can change AND that you can actually remember things from the future.

>>79141822
I was much more disappointed with Interestellar.

>there are a dozen possible plants
Holy shit, this sounds like a great planet-hopping adventure!

>can't reach most of them
>here, try these three
>a huge wave generator
Well, that was an ok start

>next one's just an ice planet
>the last planet is barely even shown and it's just a fucking desert

But hey, "it's about the characters"!

How come her future self didn't remember the phone call to China?

>>79138582
>spergraged

>>79141940
Time is convoluted in Lordran.

>>79141940
She doesn't experience time linearly

>>79141940
Because the plot is completely retarded. I'd expect nonsensical time paradox shit in a comedy film like back to the future, or an action flick like looper, not in a movie with a serious tone like this.

>>79141772
It is worth for the music and cinematography.

The story is basically

>muh dead girl
>muh burden of choice

>>79142339
You should read the post above you.

>>79141940
Because the retards who adapted the movie thought "lol free will" would be more powerful but were to inept to put it into play properly and also too retarded to see it wouldn't work.
If you view this like it was originally written, with a deterministic universe, then it makes sense again because she would remember the call in the future.
TL;DR the makers are dumb and made equally dumb changes.

>>79140800
>So these aliens are humans 3,000 years in the future.
When did the film imply that?

>>79142507
>choice

>>79142668
So, you're saying from his point of view he thinks she shouldn't have told him?

I just watched this earlier and i dont get the big deal

It was good dont get me wrong, but thats it. its good nothing special

>>79142437
yes, that's just fancy wording for "being able to see the future". thanks for proving my point.

Wouldn't it be great if we could remove the capricious know-it-all children from this board? I mean, they seem to NEED to spread their stupidity all over the board. Do they realize they just haven't lived nor process enough information yet?

I like this site, but fuck it, man.

>>79142822
No, it isn't. Thanks for proving OUR point, dumbass

>>79142848
t. nolan fan

>>79142890
>can't refute my point
>gets mad

ayy lmao

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>>79128947
kek

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>>79133160
>tfw you will never transfer data this efficiently

>>79135721
So about half my porn collection

>>79129081

>>What's it say?
>>HHNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG

>>79142848
nice copypasta

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Thanks for the thread, I literally just finished this movie a few minutes ago. Thank god that we have a singles once a month night.

The ending fucked my head a bit.

>>79128892
it's an old Abbott & Costello bit translated in circle-ese.

>>79143022
Just because it's a paradox doesn't mean it's shit.

There are paradoxes in our logic too, you know.

>>79128892
>"Nōlī turbāre circulōs meōs!"

Did Hannah die a virgin?

>>79143893
nah, she got fucked by cancer.

>>79143893
Nah. She got INKED by a BBT.

what if "the weapon" they gave her were tickle guns, and Amy accidentally killed her daughter with them???

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>>79143943
>>79143957

>>79143980
fockin' ell

>>79128892
Can someone please explain how they actually deciphered this language? How the fuck can you actually know, with any degree of certainty, what those fucking circles mean, since it's completely different from any human language that ever existed?

>>79144093
If you couldn't at least grasp some idea of how it was done by watching the movie then no one is going to spoonfeed you on here.

>>79144173
I watched the movie and the explanation was still bullshit. No actual explanation of how they could be sure anyrhing they were doing was accurate.

>>79144093
it's a little bit more clear of her thought process in the story. She plays a kind of game of mimicry where she does something and they write their word for it, then she figures out the differences in all their logograms in comparison to English.

>>79144318
is the book good by the way?

>>79144318
But that's exactly what happens in the movie too

>>79144340
It's fucking phenomenal at covering what it covers considering it's only like 40 pages. It's highly technical stuff treated with unbridled imagination. I can see why it won all the awards it won.

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>>79138223

>>79144385
I guess, but the learning process is more of a montage of her looking at diagrams and computer screens. The book gives you a few more sentences describing the real linguistics she was figuring out (how the nouns emerged, how they appear in relation to verbs, how changes in the logogram affect their intention, etc).

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It was a bad flick, a great movie, a good film and moderate kino for its genre.

Prove me wrong.

>>79144463
>how the nouns emerged, how they appear in relation to verbs, how changes in the logogram affect their intention, etc

Really doesn't need to be shown in the movie

>>79134090
>linguistics
>science

Do you mean applied science?

>>79144508
How far into the autism process are you?

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>>79144561
I'm studying at uni and have a gf and a job. I went out twice last week.

tbqh though 4chan is fucking great, I spend way too much time here and it's holding me back from becoming a full-time energetic-normie.

>>79144677
Sounds like you have almost completed the process

>>79144677
>Studying, job and gf
>Goes out as well
How do you even have time to post here?

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>>79144714
Thanks, you too
>>79144726
Part-time work obviously. I don't really have the time to post here but I'm addicted to shitposting. Desu if 4chan disappeared my day-to-day life would be way better.
I was a complete sperg two years ago so we're all gonna make it

Wonder what they needed help with in 3000 years?

>>79144508
It's a bad flick, good movie, moderate film, and meh kino. But I guess if you add the "for it's genre" stipulation then you're pretty much right. Sci-fi kino is so rare that even a mediocre attempt is moderate sci-fi kino

The most unbelievable part was where it was the americans who tried to suicide bomb them and not the arabs

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>>79144827
Creating a live multi-million year 3D reenactment of the plane scene using star systems and asteroids. The shape of their ships are step one, as trillions of them form together into the plane behind CIA

Or maybe some cool insterstellar submarine warfare
>>79144902
That's racist, friend.

>>79144975
Wow. That chart couldn't possibly have been any more reddit.

>>79145032
All he needed was a trip to make it the most Reddit post in the thread

>>79135260
The way i see it, either no free will. Everything is predetermined. She was always going to have the cancer kid and learn the language and eventually help the aliens.
OR
She's a bitch wanting the suffering of her kid
OR
From her non-linear point of view she feels like she can't try to change anything
OR
The non-linearity of time means that while there is free will, not for those with a global perspective. It's not that she knows the future, it's that her whole life already happened that way

>>79144975
thinking about that picture makes me uncomfortable

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>>79145153

>>79142786
Exactly. This is the problem with hype, especially surrounding these kind of movies. People start jerking each other off over meaning and how smart they are, that others react by being contrarian or thinking everyone else is retarded.
The end result is this idiotic fighting, people praising it as the best scifi movie ever while others saying its shit.

>>79145237
Are there any non b8 posts that actually claim this was the best sci-fi movie ever?

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This movie is a prime example of a paradox.

She should not be able to influence the present using knowledge of the future if that future is dependent on her present self already having the knowledge.

Ignoring that, the only conclusions are A) There is no free will, time is determined. B) She has a cursed child for purely selfish reasons (backed up by the father leaving)

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>>79136397
best meme

>>79146554
>paradox

Nope.
Everything up until she learns to perceive time non-linearly is unaffected by her future actions. By the time she learns that she knows the asian dude's phone number, she'd entered the time-is-irrelevant stage. Sure, events in the future cause events in the past, but that's after her time perception is changed.

what was the weapon?
what happens in 3000 years?

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>>79146554
>This movie is a prime example of a paradox.
>the only conclusions are A) There is no free will, time is determined
not a paradox bruh. you just answered your own conundrum. She no longer sees time as being causal and linear. Everything has already happened. Hannah already died before she was born and she never wasn't born. time is a flat circle brah.

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>>79128892
[Spoiler]Bane?[/Spoiler]

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>>79126735
>tfw too autistic for linear communication

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>>79136397
kek process

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>>79149483
this thread inspired a future painting

>>79138495
>>79128892
>>79141310

ouroboros is too on the nose. every other retard has that tattoo on their forearm now. i doubt they'd be that explicit.

>>79133959

I could see your point with Interstaller. The Martian was pleb trash though.

Definitely understand your qualms with Arrival as well but I didn't think it was as overwrought as it could've been. There was a nice balance between hand holding and open ended interpretation. Without the prior, I don't think anyone would've liked the movie. Interstellar didn't get nearly the praise Arrival is getting.

>>79136161

hahahah perfect summation

>>79136486

holy fuck best new meme

So what was the fucking point of the movie? Why did the Aliens come, what did they want and what the fuck did they achieve?

>>79132530
arrividerci

>>79138223
But one bp is two bits, because there are four possibilities.

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>using a meme language

>>79133959
Shallow criticism. Assessing a films merit based on the the make up of its audience is not a good way to form an opinion

>>79151583
Watch it again

>>79151583
what is the point of any movie?
to give humans weapon
achieved alliance

>>79132724
Delusional woman comes up with some fake past for why her child has to die and why her husband left her.

>>79152368
yeah but he's obviously not doing that

he's assessing the merits and then saying something about the audience who would like a movie like this. The problem isn't that this or that audience will like the film, but that the film has been dumbed down, reducing its quality to anybody but the sort of audience that wouldn't understand it otherwise.

>Any clever idea is made so transparent that even the most simple in the audience will get it... Arrival has a brain that it is refusing to let the audience use

>>79133959
I want Amy Adams to be in the milky section of my ship, if you know what I mean.

Also, I do get what you are saying and you have a point, but I think you are putting way too much emphasis on the plot and tweessstt, but I absolutely adored the atmosphere and directing up until it starts to get pants on head retarded.

It had a bad ending, and it sure suffers from handholding, but I wouldn't call the entire movie shit or disappointing.

>>79152368
you fucked up nigga, thats exactly what he's not saying. He isnt insulting the fanbase and calling them tryhard pretentious faggots, like anyone does in any thread in /tv/ at any point in time. He actually has a valid criticism in temrs of the writting being cumbersome and hand-holdy.

>>79128892
BRRRRAAAAAPPPP

>>79129088
anon is in kek process

>>79126735

>phimosis alien

this movie was a whole propaganda to make uncut dicks look like aliens

i'm still waiting for the cut alien