What are /tv/'s honest thoughs in this movie?

>>79049786
shitty movie
as bad as tfa and the pequels.

everyone has already forgotten this movie desu

If I may put in my opinion...
I absolutely adored Rogue One. It is my (current) favourite Star Wars film. For me it had the right amount of everything, it had cool new characters, it made the Empire seem like a genuine threat with a massive presence where ever you go, it portrayed the Rebellion in a darker light to show what they have to resort to to fight such a hopeless fight. It was grittier than previous films which I feel is it's strongest point (hear me out here.) In the OT and PT, even the ST, I rarely got the feeling there is a galaxy wide war raging, guerrilla or not. For example in Episode 3, there is only 2 moments for me, which is the opening scene and when Order 66 is given and you see all the different locations. But they were more of a reminder, like "oh yeah, there's that whole Clone War thing going on." Then in the OT I only really got the feeling when the Empire invaded Hoth, and when they boarded the Tantive IV. The Empire rarely felt like a serious threat to me.
But in Rogue One, you see it everywhere. Imperial banners, Stormtroopers patrolling streets, Star Destroyers over cities, giant gate shields with fleets guarding it, Research facilities, and of course the Death Star coming in and saying "fuck everything in that general direction." Twice. And not to mention the Vader scenes.
The Empire feels like a constant and looming threat to me in Rogue One, you get the sense they could burst in at any time and do terrible things. We see them being ruthless to their own people and other people.
It might be my age (19) but I love Rogue One to bits (along with all the other films,) and I feel it really puts the "War" in "Star Wars." It is a very welcome addition to the saga for me.

It was a film that I spent money to see, several moments of the film were enjoyable to me and distracted me from certain aspects of my life.

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>>79050058
relatable

>>79049786
PRETTY FUCKING BORING DESU SENPAI

Felicity has a nice ass tho

The best parts of the movie are the very beginning and the very end. Jedha and the Kyber refinery were messy plot-wise and Scarif dragged on.

I saw it twice, enjoyed it a lot more the first time than the second time.

>>79049786
It has the Mad Max 1 effect where the more you cut off of the beginning of the movie the better it is

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-I didn't like that the thermal port was this masterfully planned weakness, instead of just the rebelion clutching at straws like it seemed in ANH
-while not prequel bad, the dialogue was pretty awful
-having the showdown with the big-bad-director-guy on top of the satellite dish (that could thankfully send messages at the very, very top) was stupid
-blind asian dude was an awful character, and completely awful writing
-I miss Kyle Katarn

+laser-gun shootouts are cool
+vader (apart from the arnold-ish line to the director-guy) was menacing, and terrifying again
+morally grey characters generally are more interesting, and while the ones in this movie aren't going to be on anybody's "top 10 anti-heroes", it's still better than the alternative


Solid B-

Why did they completely computer generate a dead person, is that creative storytelling?
Why do I spend more time thinking about entertainment than anything that is actually important in my life?
Why don't I prioritize things like family and friends over escapism.
Why don't I even care for my self when I know poor nutrition, lack of mental and physical exercise is deleterious to my health.
Why are the characters in Rogue One so poorly written?

>>79049786
Why'd they kill the robot? The robot was the only good thing

Better in literally every way than TFA. It actually felt like part of a massive, organic universe with all of the references to the prequels, the OT, the clone wars, and rebels. The characters weren't especially gripping but I felt like they were serviceable. The only rebel I cared about was the droid. The plot was kind of meandering and unfocused in the first half but honestly I would take MORE planets and locations in a Star Wars film over fewer every single time.

Vader scenes were incredible (I disliked but don't hate his pun). I honestly would have preferred it be even darker and I really wish the Stormtroopers were more dangerous. The main villain was kind of weak.

For a Star Wars movie: 8 out of 10

When the city they were escaping got nuked, why did the blind jedi ask the hawaiian machine gun guy if the city was destroyed? he was clearly shown to have insane perception and stuff. he couldn't tell that the nuke destroyed the city? like im pretty sure if i had my eyes closed and a nuke went off behind me i would tell you if the city was destroyed

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>>79050661
>not complaining about her sudden change of character when she spoke to the counsel

>>79051404
He wasn't a jedi and only had perception of things close to him

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X-WIIIINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!

boring first 2/3 with characters I didn't care about in the least
too many wink wink moments with the references
Tarkin looked like a video game character walking around the real world

the action at the end was decent, but I didn't really care about what was happening

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Still waiting for HD

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>>79052094
>>79049786
>>79049994

>PT ASSHURT PT ASSHURT!

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They had too many characters with not enough to develop them, so when they all go through their Super Tragic Deaths I didn't feel anything for almost any of them. The closest I came to caring was Samoa Joe after Mr. Miyagi died because losing a true friend like that is sad.

Also Vader was good.

>>79052229
You're heartless if you didn't feel anything after the beach scene.

>>79051967
She wasn't the only one. The imperial pilot who defected goes from "royally fucked" to "absolutely fine" in the space of 5 minutes after the city gets blown up.

>>79052276

Both of them were terrible people with no chemistry.

Uneven and clearly reworked to death in post but I enjoyed it because it was the live action version of me playing with Star Wars action figures when I was ten. It's the exact story a kid would come up with. They're trying to find the plans for the DEATH STAR and AT-ATs show up who get shot down by X-WINGS and then DARTH VADER wrecks some motherfuckers.

I hope future SW movies aim higher but as a movie going experience I was satisfied.

>>79052180
this seriously wtf

>>79052371
he had time to recover

We need more white women x Mexican male in films

>>79049786
Never saw it, TFA killed all my Star Wars hype.

>>79049786
First two-thirds are shit, last third is entertaining enough. I think the biggest problem was too much studio interference, too much re-shooting and re-editing. There wasn't really a coherent vision behind it.

>>79052276
Fuck off shill.

>>79049786
Probably the third worst blockbuster of the year behind BvS and Suicide Squad

>>79052391
this

>>79049786
The first two acts are terrible, the characters are really boring, CGI Tarkin was disturbing and unnecessary. The final battle had some good action but it went on for too long, not to mention that Jyn Erso and Cassian essentially play a giant version of a crane game during the sequence. If I'm being honest I don't see how this any different from attack of the clones, it's got light saber fan service, boring characters, a meandering plot that goes from planet to planet, and a giant special effects action set piece at the end.

>>79054944

It had le funny meme bot of jokes

Why should I give a shit about Jyn? Hmm? What do I care if this bitch and her gang of "misfit" bitches die? Waste of a movie. Show me something I'll care about.

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>>79049786
>Vader killing rebels
>Rebels escape and Pinto Princess ship
>Vader stands in front of space breathing
>In space breathing
>breathing
>space
>is
>a
>vacuum
I walked out after this shot

>seeing nuSW after TFA

What are you some kind of plebeian or sumtin?

>>79055587
good b8 m9

>>79049786
The first 2 acts are awful. The characters, I couldn't name a single one of them they were so unmemorable. The action in act 3 was decent, but it was essentially the same as the battle for Endor in Return of the Jedi. The battle was not really cool or emotional for me because I knew it would end with them getting the plans anyway. The whole plot for the movie was so dull that the characters really had no reason to be interesting.

If I compare it with The Force Awakens, it's not even close. I enjoyed The Force Awakens quite a bit. All of the characters were interesting to me. I want to know more about Rey, Kylo, Luke, and Snoke.

Rogue One: C+
The Force Awakens: A-

>>79055927
Your bait is so obvious. Rogue One absolutely dominates The Force Awakens in every aspects.

>>79049786
Totally and utterly forgettable

>>79055927
Haven;t met a single person who preferred TFA.

>>79056461
No, that's your opinion. TFA is actually liked by the majority of star wars fans, believe it or not. TFA is better received by most people.

>>79056549
The amount of people you know is a shit sample size.

>>79055587
>breathing
>Inside the shield

Better than Jar Jars crappy tfa

>>79055587
Space explosions must drive you nuts

>>79049786
- Boring first half
- Blatant fanservice
- Forgettable characters
- Some terrible prequel-tier dialogues
- Some parts didn't make sense (there was literally no reason for Saw Gerrera to die)

+ Enjoyable fanservice (that Vader at the end)
+ Cameo appearances pleased the fanboy in me
+ X-wings and Battle-of-Endor-like space battle
+ Main characters dying rather than being magically rescued
+ Explained the major plot device in ANH (not that I give a shit about Disney's Star Wars)
+ Better than TFA

td;dr decent movie, but enjoyable because of (blatant) fanservice

>>79058142
I don't disagree with most your points, but how was there a plot hole in ANH? It never bothered me for 20 years that there was a weak point in the form of a power shaft that torpedoes could be fired into. It wasn't until the past 2 years I ever heard anyone complain about it.

>>79058214
>It wasn't until the past 2 years I ever heard anyone complain about it
Nice bait

>>79058223
Don't lie to yourself. You never gave a shit about it until a bunch of millennials started nit picking it for Rogue One.

>>79058142
Well, yeah, actually I've never been bothered by it either. Just parroting what some people said. I agree with this guy >>79050661 about the rebellion clutching at straws.

>>79058255
Derp, meant to quote >>79058214

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Waifu thread? Waifu thread!

>>79049786
didn't see it, don't plan to ever see it.

>>79058268
>Derp
These are the people I share the board with.

>>79058280
Just watch the end battle when it comes out on youtube after the bluray release. There is nothing else worth watching.

>>79052229
wow this scene is so embarrasin

the ending was the best 3 minutes I have seen from ANY star wars movie.

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So cute when she's shy

old lady waifu itt

I liked it. After TFA, I was a bit afraid of what was coming next, but I read some early reviews in /pol/ by some saying that it really was not a SJW movie, so I decided to give it a try.

I wish the characters would have gotten more development and that Jyn would have pondered about the Rebellion just recruiting her for being the-daughter-of, instead of because of her skills.

Krennic deserved more screentime for development too and, in my opinion, at the end he should have let Jyn upload the plans out of resentment. Such a missed opportunity.

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>>79058346
>>79058375
>>79058386
>>79058397
>>79058425

>>79049786
I thought it was quite bad. The first 3/4 of the film were unbelievably boring, awful dialogue, shitty acting etc. Only enjoyable part was the end battle and effects, but that isn't enough to save it

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Not a perfect film by any means, but by far the best Star Wars film since The Return of the Jedi.

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>>79058490

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>>79058541

>>79058586
ok I admit
she is kinda cute

Better than TFA by leaps and bounds

>>79058624
b8

>>79050661
The thermal port was not the weakness that was designed in, it was that the reactors would chain react and destroy the whole station if you could compromise them. The thermal port is still them clutching at straws

>>79058142
Forgot the biggest + over TFA and prequels:

Rogue One made lightsabers fucking cool again. The film wasn't over saturated with lightsaber fight or someone opening a can of bean with a lightsaber every ten minutes, like in prequens and TFA, then as a result when Vader appeared at the end and pulled out his co...I mean lightsaber it was fucking amazing.

>>79050047
I know you

>>79058658
TFA did use lightsabers properly. What are you talking about?

>>79049786
It totally validated my love for childrens' franchise.

>>79058680
They even had non jedis become a fucking masters of lightsabering in 5 minutes after picking one up, so I have to disagree with you.

>>79058641
Truth doesn't fear examination

>>79049786
Me personally, I loved this movie.

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>>79058707
>non jedis
>jedis
oh, you're one of (((them)))

>>79058723
I'd rate it 11/10. Better than Empire.

>>79055927
You're crazy if you think FA was that good.

>>79058658
The lightsaber fight vs Darth Maul in episode 1 was awesome though, despite being choreographed.

>>79058866
How awesome was it though, anon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw

Terrible movie. Worst Star wars flick since attack of the clones

It tried. It looked good, it had good action but it failed to be engaging. Needed more time to let the character breathe and give them characterization outside of the mission they're trying to accomplish. It was fun seeing allthe little pieces fall into place that would lead to Episode 4.

Aome of the cameos were unnecessary. I was fine with Leia, I think C3PO and R2D2 had absolutely no reason to be in this movie and Tarkin... man, if you can't make him look real next to actual actors, don't include him.

>>79056562
>TFA is actually liked by the majority of star wars fans, believe it or not.
>liked by the majority of
>star wars fans
You mean casuals that eat popular shit up?
Might as well call the Transformers movies masterpieces because they are actually better received by the public.

The movie didn't add anything to the overall story. It was completely unnecessary.

>>79049786
Rouge One was shit

>>79050047
This. Pretty much everything except fir the rushed first act was good.
ESB is the best one but rogue one definetly comes right after.

Overall V>R1>IV>III>VI = VII >>>>> I>>>>II

>>79049786
Well, it was relatively fun to watch, although it felt like a generic action flick. Completely forgettable and redundant.

>>79049786
once the next one will come out the entire "Nerd" community will shit on RO

>>79058586
dropped

>>79049786
Liked it a lot. Much more than all the other new ones.

>>79059654
It gave a subtle look at the Rebellion without retconning anything and ruining the franchise.

That kind of introspection is a good thing, it's a lot better than the 'good vs evil' gimmick the series had going.

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>>79049786
>Looks great.
>The space battle is fun. (Especially Vader ramming the Devastator right into the escaping Rebel fleet)
>The droid gets an emphasized exhalation out of me once or twice.
>I kinda like Donnie Yen.
>I don't give a crap about any of the other team members.
>Their deaths all felt meaningless and happened too quickly one after another
>Mon Mothma is cute, CUTE!
>unmemorable music
>distracting CGI humans
>aliens are only seen in the background with no purpose
>I am annoyed that the Death Star can just jump into orbit of its target
>I am further annoyed that Alderaan is no longer the first target (but it doesn't count, lel, they only did le single ignitions)
>Vader stooping to such a low pun was meh to the point of insult.

>>79050047
>of course the Death Star coming in and saying "fuck everything in that general direction."

kek'd

First 2 acts were boring and had nothing that made me want to continue watching. Third act was the best content I've seen in any Star Wars movie.

boring shite movie for manchildren saved from being one of the shittest movies of the year by the last third where stuff actually happened

Best Star Wars movie since ESB.

>>79055927
>implying the only redeemable part of TFA weren't the old characters + Kylo Ren
fuck off, at least this movie tried to add something new to the franchise, It wasn't great but it was alright

>>79055587
They also had wind in "space" in that scene. His cape was billowing in it. So they just went full "SW space is actually athmosphere" in this movie, where normally they only go "space has sound" in the others.

>>79060096
>implying the gas and particles from the explosions hitting the glass don't make sounds
top goy

>>79060079
Kylo and Rey were the main characters and were great

>>79059640
Well I guess that makes you a minority with all of the neck beard growing, kotor playing, prequel praising, nu-wars fanboys

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>>79060186
>being this delusional
Okay, shiteater.

>>79052180
>>79053018

good HD rips usually take at least 2-3 months after theatrical release

>>79060186
>Rey
>great
I like her but it's bullshit she can do Jedi mind tricks and generally abuse the Force with 0 training and practice.

>>79060136
>top goy
Funny you should mention that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_OSeRxhGOY

But also:
Vreeeoooow
Whooooaaaaaaa
Bwadd! Bwadd! PEW!

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>>79049786

ROGUE ONE is this generation's Empire Strikes Back...

>>79060288
You don't know that she has 0 training or practice though

>>79060496
>Kylo stumbles back to Snoke
>"SHE'S UNTRAINED, BUT STRONG WITH THE FORCE!"

Granted, Kylo is no authority because his training is also not complete, but making the fan theory canon that she has implanted memories and was indeed a highly skilled Force user is both the movie's only saving grace and lamest idea to fix this.
And yes, that includes the "Rey is Anakin reincarnated/Rey literally IS the light side of the Force" theories.

>>79060572
He was wounded by the bowcaster though

Most of the film was boring as shit.
The last 30 mins were okay.
Darth Vader new helmet looks fucking stupid and they should have not used JEJ since he's too old and doesn't even sound like Vader anymore

>>79060572
Yeh I can understand why he lost. He was wounded twice and didn't really want to kill her but that doesn't explain her powerlevel going up ten times.
Implanted/wiped memories are possible but that sounds dumb as fuck.

>>79060595
This lame excuse again.

>>79060595
>Yes, and she used the lightsaber like she used her bo staff. I noticed. I'm a different anon than whom you replied to before, and I'm referring to her Force powers that just keep building.
Kylo is stopped by a female stormtrooper when he's running around Starkiller Base, who tells him they're getting weird readings in sector whatsit, and he responds that it's Rey becoming stronger by the minute.
And the "untrained" comment is from Kylo's own mouth.
https://youtu.be/qLhni8KxnJQ?t=1m55s

>>79060649
>roast armored stormtroopers in 1 shot

>>79049786
Haven't seen it, don't care for the setting. Or the franchise. Haven't really cared for star wars since I was 12.

>>79060649
It was explained throughout the entire movie that it's a deadly weapon. It's good writing.

I APPLAUDED IT FOR BEING DIFFERENT

>>79051328
are you serious? I was hoping they'd repair quipbot2000 just to shoot him again

>>79060767
I just realized him completely freezing Poe's shot in mid-air in the beginning was to prepare you that Chewie's bolt would not blow him off his feet as it did with all other stormtroopers, but the movie never makes it clear that he makes any attempt to stop it or slow it down.

>>79060833
Not slowing in you can kind of excuse it by him being triggered after killing his father and what not.
And about not falling idk he used the force to lodge himself in place and shieeet

>>79060867
You CAN excuse him not successfully deflecting OR freezing the bullet by the emotional turmoil he's going through.

You CAN'T as easily excuse the fact that the movie does not in any way show him try abything at the last second. Even the "anchoring himself with the Force" idea you just posited (and a good idea it is, too!) could've been made explicit by a quick close-up of his feet being dragged against the bridge and suddenly arresting themselves with the "WHOOF" sound effect they used for the Force before.

As the scene plays out, he doesn't flinch, he doesn't dig his heels in, he does nothing but get shot and the weapon fails to sweep him off his feet.

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>>79052094
DEATH STAAAAAAR

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star wars for Christmas every year until we are dead

>>79059227
For as much I already knew that the scene was full of dumb moves, now I will never look at that fight in the same way

it was terrible no redeeming features at all. hard to sit through.

I don't understand how my dads gfs son enjoyed it. He is 14 and knows a lot more of the minor details of the universe.

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>>79060782
IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!!

>>79050166
Were there any good ass shots in this movie

I didn't really notice any desu

>>79060261
>being this delusional

>Rey pulls the lightsaber
>Ameriblubbers clap
pottery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6vfEq-UkrY

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>>79049786
Nothing can convey me to watch it and waste 2 hours of my life on this SJW pile of shit.

>>79062545
ok now I completely understand why there are so many shootings and mass killings in america. how can you live with this?

>>79049786
The first half is 5/10. Second half is 9/10. Last 10 minutes is 11/10.

>>79049786
I had a few gripes that kept me from being able to say I loved it. In order of severity:

>Darth Vader makes a pun
It's a pretty minor thing in the context of the movie itself, but after years of brain bleach to undo the damage caused to Vader by the prequels, that moment stung a lot.

>Gimmick asian characters
The two asian guys from the jedi temple end up rolling with the protag team for no apparent reason at all. Just because they were there. They're silly trope characters; blind kung fu monk and big guy with special gun for big guy. I felt like they were only there to pander to the chinese market, and they detracted from the overall story.

>CGI Tarkin
He looked like a PS2 character. Pulled me out of the story every time he spoke.

Other than that, I really enjoyed it. The story was decent. The action was suspenseful. The comic relief droid was funny sometimes, and reminded me of HK from KOTOR 2. Vader in the hallway (airlock?) might be my favorite few seconds of Star Wars ever. I liked how gracefully it dovetails into A New Hope. Overall, I give Rogue One 6.5/10.

>>79060280
It's been 2 months though...

Hated this movie more than BvS and Suicide Squad combined. It was fucking awful.