Arrival

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>>79049362
the aliens come back to Earth to see if humanity got an intergalactic job yet

the aliens get humanity to beat rhythm games for them.

ur mom lmbo

the force awakens

Just finished watching this. Holy fuck what a great movie. Bets I've seen in at least 5 years. Why, WHY can't Hollywood take more chances on great material like this. Why do fantastic movies like this get drowned out by superhero sequels and the latest reboot of a remake of a whatever?

You're happy and heartbroken at the end. Can;t wait to see what Villeneuve can do with Blade Runner.

"we told this bitch we needed her help in 3000 years and she actually did it! The madman!"

>>79049666

I like niche sci fi movies but this movie war garbage

>>79049773
madwoman*

>>79049666
Satan is an Arrivalfag confirmed

>>79049666
because movies like this only impress people who've never seen a science fiction movie before?

They keep trying this hyper-light sci-fi bullshit and they impress exactly no one. Except maybe retards. Like you.

>>79049915
>they impress exactly no one

That's why arrival is a best picture nominee right?

>>79050334
>best picture nominee
>nominee
wew

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>Villeneuve will be allowed to butcher Dune in 2-3 years

http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/1/14471312/dune-movie-adaptation-director-denis-villeneuve

I fucking hate this planet.

>>79049666

>Why do fantastic movies like this get drowned out by superhero sequels and the latest reboot of a remake of a whatever?

>Can;t wait to see what Villeneuve can do with Blade Runner.

>>79050363

you get called out on your retarded statement and all you can do is go into full meme speak, sad!

>>79049666
This movie was dogshit. I am completely baffled. In fact I think I'm gonna leave /tv/ for good.

>>79049362
We'll since the aliens in this movie was based on coffee stains and people playing "spiders" with their hands on a table. The invader evil aliens will be butts smacking against whoopee cushions. With the cushions being their means of communication.

>>79049915
You know what, my bad. I should have known posting a positive opinion of anything on this board would immediately be met with the cynicism of a kissless 15 year old basement dweller.

Admit it, you shed a tear at the end, so now you trash the movie because you think you might, just might, be a fag. And you are.

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tfw I didn't realize the girl hadn't been born yet and wondered why amy adams and renner had forgotten they married each other until i read about it after the movie ended

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Everything Alex Jones said on JRE comes true

>>79051733
Isn't it explicitly told like 2 or 3 times toward the end? Did you not just pay attention at all?

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It's trying to communicate with us.

>>79051733
This is literally the type of person who will critize the movie endlessly in an autistic manner. Someone too fucking stupid to understand even the simplest of things.

>>79051891
i got confused... i don't remember anything about 3000 years though. what scene was that?

>>79052049
it's a difficult to understand movie okay!!

>>79052080

The 3000 years thing was mentioned multiple times. Basically, the entire reason the aliens came to earth was to give humans their language as because they would need our help in the future.

We never find out what exactly they need help with because the movie was not about that.

>>79052080
The "3000 years from now" scene is when Adams is brought onto the ship near the end of the movie. If you didn't have the right subs you missed it, since it's the ayy lmaos dialogue subtitled.

>>79052226
well fuck I watched a rip that had no subs
how much of it was subtitled?

>>79051733
Jesus Christ why do you even watch movies like this? Stick to video games you fucking subhuman

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>>79052294
to intelligant for video games

This movie made me realize Amy Adams shouldn't be the main character in movies

>>79052262

>Never get to experience the first viewing of a movie ever again

Ruin the experience by watching a camrip, top kek!

>>79049362
>NOTHING HAPPENS: the movie

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Let me tell you what's shit about this movie

>woah girl you're so smart, come with us to talk with aliens,
>uhhg no?
>we came in helicopters, what about now?
>okay take me there

>no space left for mystery or wonder, the film left no question other than "what happens in 3000 years latter?", which by the way it does not matter anyway, because the focus of the movies is not aliens it's about UGH CANCER IT'S SUCH A BITCH RIGHT?

>when you learn their language you learn how to see the future
>still, she was the only one with the visions

>that disgusting depression inducing filter, I dont give a fuck if you're actually payed for being a colorist, your job is as stupid as a millennial bitch using Instagram filter into a photo to make it look more deep or interesting, it's fucking horrible, I'm so fucking tired of this trend in photography, design and film

>that bullshit stupid climax, oh kill this bitch she's a traitor, typical american way of writing conflict

>HURRR DURRR HUMANS ARE EVIL, WE'RE SO FUKING ARROGANT WHITE GUILT WHITE GUILT etc.

the movie had great aesthetics and alien/spaceship design and conceptualization, to be honest the whole communication segment was pretty interesting and well executed, visuals and effects were okay, kinda glad they didn't went full capeshit with morbid senseless action

slightly better than that movie where keanu reeves is and ayylium/10, mediocre pretentious sci-fi

>>79052348
Aliens don't have subtitles in real life.

Arrival is good, but watch it a second and third time. It kind of starts to fall apart and you realize how clunky the third act becomes, both story wise, sci-fi wise and effects wise. Seems like they spent a lot of time on the first and second acts and then just shit out the last 30 minutes because they couldn't think of anything better.

>>79049362
Can someone explain to me how they translated the circles? I feel like they went from seeing a couple of them straight into figuring them out in one too easy montage that didn't give me enough technical information. Or did I just miss something?

>>79052365
>Aliens don't have subtitles in real life.

Aliens don't exist in real life either.

>>79052358

>HURRR DURRR HUMANS ARE EVIL, WE'RE SO FUKING ARROGANT WHITE GUILT WHITE GUILT etc.

I missed the part about white guilt, which scene was it again?

The sequence where the protags are going into the ship for the first time is perfect in all aspects imo

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Why was an alien in her bedroom? Did the aliens live among the humans in the future, and was she fucking one of them? Reminded me of that scene from the spider invasion movie Dennis made.

>>79052397
>write "human" while gesturing that they are human
>assume what the aliens wrote was the word for what they call their race
>write each persons name and gesture to show the difference between human race and specific names
>assume they are writing their names
>do this for basic words and concepts until you notice patterns in their language

>>79052417
I'm just meming you anon, it's the guilt complex that hollywood keep pulling on film about anthropocentrism, it's a annoying cliché by now to be honest

Why didn't she teller Renner about the cancer baby before they fugged?

>>79052507
Maybe I'm just not very good at languages, but that still seems far too under explained. I mean fuck, with every circle they had a pretty wide range of what that shit meant. I wanted more explanation rather than just a montage.

>>79052417
>Aliens don't exist in real life either.
Haha... yeah, you would have to be an idiot to think we exist.

>>79049362
fucking nothing?

>>79052472
Enemy. I wanted to like that movie, Jake Gyllenhaal does some fantastic work, but damn that movie just gave me fucking nothing but a "figure that shit out for yourself" ending, and I am not really a fan of those.

All she had to do was shift her pelvis when banging Hawkeye and the entire future would be different. How does she have no control over the future? Just have a kid knowing she will have cancer and die as a child.

>>79052557
because she was living a deterministic life

>>79052472
It was fingering her

>>79052581
what kind of bothered me was that the asshole aliens didnt bother to learn how to write in english. they are clearly the more intelligent beings

>>79052641
>>79052557
In source material, her daughter died in her 20's in a car accident or some shit, she knew and didn't stop it. That's fucking worse than maybe making Clint Barton pull out.

Original script where we got the instructions to build the enterprise was better than this stupid 2deep4u ending

>>79052739
It was mostly the fact that within days they could somewhat narrow down words when there have to be so many fucking variations on words and I just don't get it. Considering so many other countries heard something other than "weapon" maybe all they learned was bullshit.

>>79052745
>she knew and didn't stop it.

the movie is saying that we dont have free will, is it not?

>>79052749
Yeah, I read that and was a little bummed. I much preferred the idea that every country gets some certain gift and everyone has to share their shit. Unless you're the country that got infinite food or whatever the fuck then forget it.

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>>79052472
she's a slut

>>79051733
Wait what
I thought that was before the movie
Didn't know the dude was the father lel

>>79049362
>What happens in 3000 years?

The humans get slaughtered fighting a proxy war for the (((Heptapods))).

>>79052799
Is it actually, though? Or is that just the slapped in rationale for why the movie ends as such downer?

>>79050418
Be more mad faggot. Go watch Lynch's dune while the rest of us enjoy kino

It's sad that the only movie to ever feature "linguistics" propagates already widespread misconceptions about the field.

>>79052836
ARRIVAL is about aliums and ink. It has nothing to do with Jewish control of the world, which is slander and a lie.

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>>79052895
>watching inferior lynch's dune instead of Alejandro "the absolute madman" Jodoroski never filmed version

>>79052845
I assumed that the bomb the soldier put into the ship somehow put that alien into death process. the alien would have known that was happening since they dont experience time linearly but alien didnt do anything to stop it from happening.

chinese general showing her his personal number in the future and saying "for some reason I feel like I have to show you this."

the way she delivered the line "he said i made the wrong choice" when she explains why renner left her came off like he thought there was free will but she knew they didnt. idk there isnt any 100% evidence I suppose

>>79052745
>>79052641
The whole point of the movie is the deterministic nature of time. Like the past and future will always be the same and cannot be changed
>Except when the aliens need help in 3000 years so they prep earth, or when she needs to learn Chinese magically

>>79051733
wait what? I thought her previous kid died before the events of the movie and then she had another kid with hawkeye?

>>79053294
you absolute RETARD


seriously you're so fucking dumb if there was a nobel price for dumbness you'd still be too dumb to get it

>>79053487
I'm not that guy but I missed that too. Because the thing seemed suched a closed case. Divorced husband, dead child, and then the movie starts.

Also she says something like "I'm a linguist but bad at communication" which I thought was referring to the divorce

>>79053487
it was ambiguous

>>79053567
I agree, it could be before or after the main story and both would fit.

Also she gets like flashbacks during the movie, but that are flashforwards then? It seemed more like reliving a memory than seeing the future

>>79053591
I just hope you're pretending to be retarded

>>79053639
No I think it is indeed ambiguous. Especially because the opening scene is so irrelevant to the rest of the movie. "OK this woman is divorced and lost a child so she has some deep going grief. Movie starts." She even talks about it in past tense, and it all happens long before we are introduced to the non linear time concepts

>>79053723
(you)

>>79053875
Thank but what was the "obvious" giveaway that this definitely happened in the future?

>>79053922
the movie

>>79053922
the scene where she tells her daughter why they divorced.

>>79049666
r. Eddit

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>>79049362
The oldest hectapod dies. This is objectively the only correct answer.

>>79051733
Kek

>>79053922
the daughter making a hectapod out of playdough

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Was literally the dumbest shit I've seen in a long time.

She doomed her daughter when she could have easily avoided the disease. She could have waited a few months to try for a baby, she could have had that baby with literally any other person on the planet, she could have adopted, she could have chosen not to have a kid that is destined to die at 15. What kind of monster knowingly dooms their children like this character, like literally what the fuck.

Also the aliens were probably a bunch of teenagers that stole moms car and knew in 3000 years they have a homework assignment that had to do with humans so they laid the groundwork early so they could get A's.

>>79052358
Of course you're a fucking /pol/tard

>>79054063
>she could have had that baby with literally any other person

No, she could not. Had she had a baby with any other person or at another time it would not have been Hannah.

>she could have chosen not to have a kid that is destined to die at 15. What kind of monster knowingly dooms their children like this character, like literally what the fuck.

Louise over the course of the movie got connected to her unborn child and figured 15 years of existence is better than no existence at all.

Just because a character did not act exactly like you would does not make it bad.

>>79053124
Why do you guys insist in being stupid?
The aliens did not CAME BACK BECAUSE, they ALWAYS were on the Earth in their "past".
It's exactly the same thing of when Adams averted an international crisis

>>79054174
this time fuckery just doesn't work. What if she did decide not to have a baby or changed something enough that she didn't have hannah. Welp, future just got bamboozled because it gave her everything she needed.

Seriously the logic is stupid.

>>79054035
Oh I missed that

>>79054279
It is though. I like the deterministic concept of time they toy with, but then they crap all over it when the plot needs it.

YOU STUPID FUCKS THERE IS NO FREE WILL IN A NONDETERMINISTIC UNIVERSE
SHE COULDNT CHOOSE TO NOT HAVE HER DAUGHTER, THE FUTURE DOES NOT EXIST, IT'S JUST A CONCEPT, IT'S A CLOSE LOOP, EVERYTHING IT'S PREDETERMINED, ABBOTT COULDNT AVOID IS DEATH, THE ALIENS COULDNT NOT CHANGE THE FUTURE BY GOING BACK 3000 YRS TO EARTH, THEY ALWAYS SAVED THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEU WERE ALWAYS ON EARTH 3000 YRS PRIOR.

IT'S SO SIMPLE. FUCK
LITERALLY JUST STOP SUSOENDING YOUR DISBELIEF TO UNDERSTAND THE MOVIE. THE MOVIE , WHAT HAPPENA, IT'S A MOVIE AND THE CHARACHTERS ARE JUST CHARACHTERS.
STOP THINKING ABOUT THEM AS HUMANS, 4 DIMENSIONAL BEINGS LIKE US. THEY ARE LITERALLY JUST SHADOWS ON A SILVER SCREEN ACTING TROUGH A SCRIPT.

>>79054279
No free will

>>79054367
Calm down faggot

>>79054063

You know that there some parents that know before their child is born that their child will be retarded or they will have to look after their child for the rest of their lives, yet still go through with it.

Are they monsters as well?

>>79054432
They are selfish cunts

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>>79050334
>muh nomination
"Gay Niggers Eating Pudding" & "WE WUZ ROCKITS" also got nominated

Wait, where does it say that the heptapods would need help in the future? Or is that just theory crafting?

>>79054477

Pointing out that it was nominated for best picture was just to illustrate that people except just one guy cares about the movie.

Guess that shit flew over you head though.

>>79054063

This is what i yhought until i realized that in the movie free will doesnt exist so she didnt have a choice, even though they presented it as of she did

Thats my main criticism of the movie. They didnt make it clear whther free will existed or not

>>79054537

Do you fags even watch the fucking movie before you come on to shitpost about how terrible it was?

>>79054599
They probably watched a shitty webdl that didn't have subtitles during the alien convo

>>79054537
Unmute the damn movie, idiot

>>79049362

Humans probably developed some technology in 3000 years that the aliens needed or can't make.

>>79054537

thats the fucking reason they gave us woobly-doobly technology

>>79051733
kek

>>79054193
Yeah but the thing is, if there is only one timeline that is unchangeable, you still didn't avoid the grandfather paradox. Deterministic concept of time is even more restrictive in terms of time travel. It's a paradox but I guess they got away with it

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>>79052218
>The 3000 years thing was mentioned multiple times
it's mentioned once

>>79054735
>give us ability to perceive future
>is unable to change anything anyway because everything that has happened will happen and will always happen
t-thanks big ayy guys

>>79052557
She answers this at the end when she asks him "if you could see your whole life would you change anything " and ya know then decided it was all worth

This was stupid

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post yfw abbott is death process

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>why didn't they bring more oxygen with them to talk longer with the ayyliens ?
>why didn't the ayyliens at least try to write in english to prove that they were understanding what the fuck humans were saying ?
>future is deterministic
>ok
>except it's served by complete retarded future memories
>why the fuck would Shang show her his phone number and tell her what he knew she had told him when it had already happened and so she was supposed to already know those information, I'd be really puzzled if I were him
>all the work seems to be done by Ian and Louise, when they have huge teams and the work is just titanesque
>my child will die ? Ok lol I don't care even tho not spreading my legs to Ian would prevent that

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>>79057371

This whole thread is just people asking about literal plot points which are in no way ambiguous or "deep".

Either all of you are baiting or the "I watch movies minimized on my 13 inch toshiba laptop with 20 tabs open in chrome" meme is actually real

>>79057885
I think you know which one is true.

it's a competent movie but nothing more, it's designed for pseudointellectual morons to masturbate over despite not actually being complicated or having and depth. it's just reliant on the tweest

>>79050516
see you tomorrow ;)

>>79049362
I really want to know what happens in 3000 years, because humans, the shittiest race to rely on, have the keep that language learnt for another 2999 years. Yeah good luck.

>>79052358
chinks are the bad guys though

>>79052358
>woah girl you're so smart, come with us to talk with aliens,
>uhhg no?
>we came in helicopters, what about now?
>okay take me there

They didn't want to take her at first you dumbfuck, she wanted to come from the beginning.

>>79049362
Aliens need help beating Super Mario Brothers 2

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>>79049362
Why 12 ships if only 2 were involved?

>>79049362
The aliens find a special extra-dimensional species that threatens to shatter the fabric of reality, they can only be stopped by one thing: Baneposting.

In 3000 years <spoiler> niggers will tongue my anus

>>79058963
>now is not the time to fear that comes later
mfw when bane knew how to speak ayylium

>>79059133
>mfw when

>>79057371
I mean, this hould be a meme

>>79052507
>>79052581
The aliens already had a non linear understanding of time, they knew how the humans would figure things out so they have them the right symbols at the right time. It's a stable time loop transfer of information. Same thing happens with Amy Adams calling the Chinese general with a number she pulled out of her ass (or so it seemed to the other characters).

Dumbest fucking movie ever. All stolen ideas. Twist was predictable. More holes than Swiss cheese. Total garbage.

Early in the film there's a sound recording of the russians executing one of their experts. With all the time travel shit going on I really thought it was going to be Amy Adams that gets killed by the CIA guy and that that first recording of the execution was actually her getting gunned down. Kinda disappointed that didn't happen tbqh

>>79058861
The meeting times are staggered. Same two aliens existing in different times and spaces.

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>>79054063
Friend of mine told me that she didn't perceive time as a linear sequence of facts but in a different alien way. From what I understood she didn't perceive future or the past or the present, everything was a mix of these to her.
She could not not have had the child because even with this change of perception she still is the same person she was before, so she would be doomed by causation to still have that child because the same person, put in the same situation would do the same thing. Now, I disagree with him but this is a rough explanation of why she had it. I disagreed with him because to me a change of perception so heavy would inevitably alter the relationship between the part of her that is her conscious self and the rest of her person, so in doing that it would alter the relationship she has with the outside world and thus she would be able to change and act in another way. Maybe she didn't believe she had a choice, or as some other anon pointed out "Some existence is better than no existence" is what she believed and decided to give her hypothetical future child 12 years of life. I guess.

tldr she had the baby because despite the fact that she could perceive time in a different way (seeing the future is a reductive way to put it)

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>>79057371

>>79059435
Didnt finish the tldr. Am dumb.

tldr she had the baby because despite the fact that she could perceive time in a different way (seeing the future is a reductive way to put it) she was still herself and the same person put in the same situation would be victim of causation and do the same exact thing

>>79049362
I just watched this today and really enjoyed it except for the last 20 or so minutes: suddenly she can time travel wtf? Also why not just wear a condom and have practically the same baby a month later but without whatever desease she had?
I hope they do a reboot soon.

>>79052472
Those are the most retarded aliens I have ever seen.
I would have rather some crappy cgi instead of an obviously upside down hand

>>79052218
In early script they need humans to get out of their "future is predetermined" trap. Aliens see end of their race and they don't like that future. But they can't change it. Humans can't see their future and have freedom of will here. Soldier kills one of aliens and their leave because aliens didn't see that coming and now they know that future can be changed.

>>79059787
>and they leave

>>79059492
there is no time travel in the movie friendo

>>79049666
Civil War > Arrival