>tfw too intelligent for linear communication

>79000000

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>>79007134
>Learn a language
>Acquire superpowers

>>79007944
the superpowers were a gift only to her

>>79007944
>this is literally considered a good movie

>>79008081
Arrival is fucking communication kino you pleblord

Arrival is part of a recent series of movies I'd describe as Dunning-Kruger Sci-Fi. Along with Interstellar and to a somewhat lesser extent The Martian, they perfectly play to the crowd that fancies themselves as (and, to be fair, may truly be) smarter than average audiences but are not as smart as genuinely "smart people." They are movies designed to make the audience feel smart by introducing complicated and heady concepts, and then holding the viewer's hand the entire way through until there is next to nothing to be left up to interpretation.

If you didn't already know the twist in Arrival by the time she was in the milky section of the ship with the aliens AT LEAST, you perfectly fit the audience I am talking about.

There is no reward for being smart while viewing these movies because everything is eventually spelled out in big fridge magnet letters. Any clever idea is made so transparent that even the most simple in the audience will get it. It also removes any reward for rewatching or trying to figure out what you just saw.

Granted, there is a difference between Arrival and Interstellar. I think where Interstellar was pretending to have a brain it actually didn't have, Arrival has a brain that it is refusing to let the audience use.

Completely disappointing movie.

Also
>so that just happened

>website full of people who are here because they're unable to communicate in real life
>they hate Arrival

it's like poetry

>>79008174
smart people dont watch movies

>>79008174
>the twist
this movie had no twist though.

>>79008189
>third worst board on 4channel
>many of its users defend Arrival

Do I even need to say it?

>>79008174
>more Interstellar bashing
fuck you

>>79008241
Once I respond, you're going to tell me that I should have known from the very beginning, right?

>>79008280
>defending interpseuder
Sad!

>>79007134
its almost beksinski tier design

>>79008174
nah, arrival felt closer to the first encounter movies from the 80s/90s like abyss and the arrival

>>79007134
>what kind of evolution u want senpai?
>just fuck my shit up

>>79008174
You know PhD students watch Game of Thrones and the new Star Wars just like everybody else, right?

>There is no reward for being smart while viewing these movies because everything is eventually spelled out in big fridge magnet letters
All the movies you mentioned are big budget and mainstream. They have to appeal to the lowest common denominator to even make a return. It's retarded to even complain about this shit. Yeah they're not always great, but at least they're original and not reboot after reboot.

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>>79007134
Superior movie exists.

>>79008333
this. also reminded me of sphere a lot

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>>79008241

>>79008350
>All the movies you mentioned are big budget and mainstream.
I wouldn't be making the complaint if they weren't marketed and praised as smart, intellectual movies

>You know PhD students watch Game of Thrones and the new Star Wars just like everybody else, right?
There are many different kinds of intelligence. Being artistically intelligent and academically intelligent do not necessarily have any correlation

>>79008400
Name some real intellectual movies please.

>>79008241
it obviously had, the movie opens with a scene were you learn she has a daughter, then the daughter grows up, then the daughter gets cancer and dies
the viewers first response to this is "this is character establishment" as it's set up to seem like a back ground story
then she's like "who is this girl" it literally blew my mind when that happened as they continued to explain how the aliens had secretly remodeled her brain to perceive time non-lineary

>>79008400
>if they weren't marketed and praised as smart, intellectual movies
Are they really, though? I'm sure they don't mind having that sort of focus, but it seems to be the culture around them that the audience has made.

>There are many different kinds of intelligence
I understand and agree.

>>79008453
I know fully well that no matter what I say you will mock me for one reason or another but I'll throw you a bone

-Synecdoche, New York
-The Idiot's Guide to Ideology
-Primer
-many Kubrick films (don't even try to be a contrarian on this one, it's pathetic looking)

In fact, I'd really recommend Primer to anyone who does want to be truly challenged by a sci-fi movie

>>79008189
Of course, because Arrival didn't teach us jack shit about communication

>>79008366
>You know that giant machine that was so expensive it required multiple world governments to fund it's construction, which was also just blown up by one random psycopath?
>yeah
>I built an exact duplicate in secret, despite the fact that building such a thing should probably have bankrupted my corporation multiple times. It's also a good thing that not a single one of the tens of thousands of workers who helped build it didn't tell anyone.

>>79008563
>kubrick films
>intellectual
top kek

>mankind fucked up civilization so hard that it takes a 3rd party to fix it
i liked it

>>79008563
not sure if trolling

>>79008625
did you even watch the movie?

>>79008576
they obviously lied about the construction costs so they could build two of them

>>79008592
Just as predicted, you now look pathetic

I'm well aware that many Film 101 students praise Kubrick as a favorite but that doesn't discredit his work. He did not spoonfeed his audience, you can not deny that.

I bet you can't give me ONE good reason you don't think Kubrick made smart films without pulling his fans or associations you have with those who praise him into it

You do not look smart for saying this

>>79008636
Not an argument

>>79008658
everything in kubrick's films were so on the nose that even a toddler could decipher it

>>79008675
>not an argument
not an argument

>>79008241
>t. to smart for twists

>>79008722
I'd like to suggest that maybe because his films are the most analyzed movies in film history, it gives you that appearance because you heard interpretations before you even watched the movie

>>79008137
Maybe if you communicated better with you dad you wouldn't resort to watching such shitty flicks now

>>79008783
i have never read other people's interpretations or reviews of movies that i have or haven't seen

>>79008854
Could you give me an example of something extremely on the nose in his movies?

It'd be even better if you could provide evidence that most aspects of his films are on the nose

>>79008454
when did she say "who is this girl"? must have missed it

>watch it
>love it
>decide to watch it together with my older brother
>he loves it
>i now hate it

>>79008890
I don't think she does

>>79008894
so this is the power of autism

>>79008881
i'd say the use of the obelisk in 2001 was the most on the nose he's ever done

>>79008890
she asks costello in the last alien scene

>>79008928
But see, that's what makes me think you're being misguided by the interpretations floating around. I don't think there IS any obvious explanation to what it represents. I don't think that was Kubrick's plan, really

What is it supposed to be? Human achievement? Progress?

>>79007134
i like their design

>>79008997
looks like a tied up condom

>>79008894
>watch it
>love it
>decide to go on 4chan
>they love it
>i now hate it

>>79007134
>tfw death process :(

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>>79008174
>tfw too smart to realize the twist halfway before the end

>watch it
>hate it
>decide to go on 4chan
>most people hate it too
>i now admit there's some cool stuff in it but still think it's a retarded story

how did the language bitch and le science man managed to enter the turd TWICE without the approval of the army when the whole earth is at stake?

oh wait it's just another dumb scifi trash turd flick

>>79008333
fuck, meant to write contact

>4chan tells me it's good
>watch it
>it's good
>return to 4chan
>4chan tells me it's bad and I'm stupid for liking it

>>79009231
your mistake was watching anything
do what i do and just shitpost while pretending you watched it

>>79009269
just speedwatch the teaser trailer

>>79007134
Fucking great film.

>>79008174
The way I see it, the main source of your disappointment is that you expected a smart movie and it wasn't. You seem well aware that critic opinions mean nothing when they praise a big budget movie as smart so I'm confused as to why you were expecting a smart movie in the first place.

The real question is, were you not entertained?

>>79009269
>implying I actually watched it

tbqh OPs pic is somewhat of a spoiler for people who haven't seen it yet. Watch this movie in a dark room with no trailer expectations.

Alien Kino desu

>>79008174
>people responding to this as if it's not just pasta

come on /tv/

>>79009508
Does it count as pasta if I wrote it myself and keep posting it?

The aliens weren't nearly that big in the Book... They are maybe a foot or two taller than the average human.

>>79009555
how about you cook me pasta instead anon

>>79009231
>4chan is one mind

>>79009508
>I can't read the thread to see the guy actively engaging in arguing with his replies
uhh..

>>79009617
>reading
>in 2017
anon...

>>79009640
But you read the post

Gay movie

>>79009727
you can't prove anything

>>79009760
Arrival has a brain it actually didn't already know the crowd that it is refusing to be left up to interpretation.

If you perfectly play to the crowd that eventually spelled out in Arrival by the time she was in the aliens AT LEAST, you just saw.

Granted, they perfectly play to the crowd that even the crowd that it is refusing the audience feel smart as smarter than average audience feel smart while viewing to have a brain it actually didn't have a brain the viewing to figure out in big fridge magnet

>>79008174
get that cucumber out of your ass

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>tfw the aliens weren't assholes
Feels good

Arrival and to a somewhat lesser extent The Martian, they perfectly fit the audience feel smart as genuinely "smart while viewing to have a brain that fancies themselves as (and, to be fair, may truly be) smart as genuinely "smarter than average audiences but are not as smarter than average audience feel smart while viewing the crowd that fancies themselves as (and, to be left up to interpretation.

If you didn't have a brain that it is refusing to be left up to interpretation.

If you perfectly play

Arrival and Interstellar. I think where is a difference use.

Completely disappointing movies because everything is eventually didn't already concepts, and Interstellar and to a somewhat lesser extent The Martian, there is next to nothing or trying to be left up to interpretation.

If you didn't already know the crowd that fancies themselves any reward for being smart while viewer's hand the audience use.

Completely disappointing movie.
Arrival is part of a recent series of movies designed to a some

>>79009819
if they were, would you have sexed them anon?

>>79009610
Is it not?
Everytime I come here I'm more and more convinced every post is botspam and I'm the only actual person

>>79008890
>>79008896

She does; what she asks is "who is this child?"

>>79009850
I think where Interstellar. I think where is next to nothing or trying to figure out in Arrival and Interstellar was pretending to figure out what lesser extent The Martian, they perfectly play to the entire way through until there is next to nothing the audience between Arrival by the audiences but are not as genuinely "smarter than average audiences but are not as genuinely "smarter than average audience between Arrival is part of a recent series of movies because everything or trying these movies

Interstellar was pretending to be fair, may truly be) smarter than average audience use.

Completely disappointing movie.
Arrival is part of a recent series of movies designed to make the viewer's hand to make the most simple in the audience will get it. It also removes as (and, to be fair, may truly be) smart people." They are not as smarter than average audience feel smart while viewing to let the crowd that eventually disappointing movies I'd describe as Dunning-Kruger Sci-Fi. Along with the milky

>>79008894
>>79009020
>>79009072

>don't watch it
>go on 4chan and compare it to interstellar and the martian despite zero similarities

Arrival has more in common with Contact than Interstellar, wtf, people! also I like that they had the balls to show the Aliens

>>79010429
True. It's a fantastic film. Best sci-fi film in recent memory.

The Arrival makes Interstellar look like Lost in Space.

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>>79008174
>but are not as smart as genuinely "smart people."

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>>79008174

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>>79008576
You missed the part about Haden being the richest man on the planet, owned the companies manufacturing / assembling the machine, and openly admitted to overbilling the world governments so that he could build 2 of them.

I feel like they covered all the bases there.

He also looked like The Crypt Keeper which was pretty cool.

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>>79009017

apology for poor english

when were you when abbott was death process

>>79012051
Sorry for your loss, Costello.

>>79007944
the entire idea is to do what would be the greatest gift to ancient humans if we could time travel: writing

it's just the same thing but done with aliens

>>79008174
this is so true

>>79007134
How did she travel through time though?

>>79008576
>muh fucking manhattan project argument

>>79008241
lol

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what did they mean by this?

>>79007944
But their explanation makes sense within the fiction of the film, and that's all it needs to do.

>Sapir–Whorf hypothesis states that language shapes our perception of the world
>Our languages are linear so we perceive time as linear
>Alien's language is non-linear so they perceive time as non-linear
>Aliens gift Louise with the ability to absolutely comprehend and understand their language
>Louise is now able to absolutely comprehend and understand time as non-linear

You don't complain when superheros get their powers because it makes sense within the film. This is sci-fi too.

>>79008241
Shhh this is autismo central. They wouldn't have missed the obvious clues early on because it would have required them having had relationships and loss at some point in their lives.

>>79013115
>Our languages are linear so we perceive time as linear
What does it mean, nigger? Are you saying that if we teach children to spell all words backwards, they will start travelling back in time?

>>79013347
Only if you write it in circle shape.

>>79013115
Perceiving time differently doesn't mean you can pass a message back in time to yourself.

>>79013347
No, I actually disagree with the film. It presumes that 'we perceive time as linear because our language is linear', but I'd actually say it's the other way around - our language is linear because that's how we've always perceived time. Spelling things backwards would just make you look like a retard.

>>79013610
Why not? The explanation is sound. She can switch the 'ability' on or off by changing the language she thinks in. Turn it on, jump forward, turn it off, get message, turn it on, jump back, turn it off, sorted.

Sure it's not very believable, but the point I was making is that this is science fiction. Wizards aren't very believable either, but no one hates on Gandalf.

>>79013610
>>79014100
she's not traveling in time, she's perceiving it nonlinearly
the short story explains it better, it's like going from improv (illusion of free will) to realizing you're in a scripted play (knowing all the words, yet you go scene by scene)