Opinions on this movie?

>>78949316
Visuals were nice, plot was all over the place.

>>78949316
Great fanservice

As a film, it's bad

>>78949316
>>78949429

even as fanservice, the movie was garbage
I saw it right after beating and feeling more than satisfied with FF7

the movie left a terrible aftertaste, avoid it OP.
Just play FF7, plays Crisis Core, watch Before Crisis if you really want to, and avoid this movie like the plague

>>78949546
I meant Last Order* not Before Crisis

It ruin Tifa

Dumber Bahamut than Neo.

>>78949586
7 blows 8 and 9 out the water
get the fuck out of here
especially 8, fuck that game
for a second I thought I was in /v/

>>78949316
The extended version is far superior to normal version. Personally I think it's not bad but a lot of FFVII fans hate it and I'm that 1% who thought that film is OK. But if you didn't play FFVII before don't bother with that movie. There is almost no backstory and Cloud character is really diffrent compared to video game. Also these Jenova 3 fags are shit.

>>78949586
Wtf time to play Tactics

>>78949647
No it doesn't. The only reason 7 gets rated so highly is because of Nostalgia goggles. When I played that game, it was the most graphically intensive RPG ever. It commercialized that genre. Going back and looking at the story, the gameplay. It's kind of shit.

>>78949685
I disagree I think you need to play Crisis Core before this because it's a companion peace for it especially if you watch the Complete version.

So this order imo for best experience
FF7 > Crisis Core > Complete Advent Children > And possibly Dirge of Cerberus

>>78949407
Like all Square's movies. I still have very little idea of what was going on in Kingsglaive, but it was fucking gorgeous.

Haven't played any Final Fantasies and don't plan on it either but this was some excellent sci-fi. I liked how there wasn't expositions to the max yet you were able to know what the fuck was going on and who most of the people were. It's kino.

>>78949790
"piece"

>>78949586
at least the last part is accurate.

>>78949316
All style, zero substance.

>>78949765

How can you claim that nostalgia is the only reason why people like 7 when 9 is loved mostly because it pandered to the older games in the series?

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>>78949647
I enjoy FF9 the most because of the music and callback to the older series

FF12 was kind of ass and tactics is great but probably shouldn't be categorized with 3d titles

>>78949851
Whole hating FFVII thing is a meme.

>>78949765
I beat the game last November, graphically the game looks obviously outdated as hell, but the materia mechanics, characters, and story were very good in my opinion.
I love the story behind Shinra, Midgar, injecting cells to create super soldiers, the black materia summoning the meteor, Sephiroth going mad after having his existential crisis, the music, the golden saucer and it even has its share of comedic moments. It was an engaging game and there was no point in the game where I felt like it was a drag.

I understand now why it's a playstation 1 classic.

>>78949866
>tactics is great but probably shouldn't be categorized with final fantasy
Fixed because it isn't fair to tactics to list it with the garbage.

>>78949546

This is bad advice. Don't play Crisis Core. Literally the entire Compilation of FFVII is shit. Dirge of Cerberus, Advent Children, Crisis Core all detract from the original game. Just play that and enjoy it for what it was.

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>>78949586

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>>78949316
The bit at the end with Cloud smiling at his dead gf is just a copy of my ending where I smile at my dead mother.

>>78949316
I might be in the minority but i loved this movie. Visuals were great, action was great, music was good and the story was passable.

>>78949647
7 is the best Final Fantasy, for years I avoided it since the only reference I had was that it is "overrated" so I tried every other FF before it to see how it compared.
It blew them out of the water with ease, its characters, introduction, gameplay and presentation are way better than everything Square did before or after it.

>>78949851
Throwbacks to the classics works though. The older games were some of the better ones.

Also 7 and 8 for some reason were about emo as fuck characters.

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>>78949918
tactics is more gameplay driven than story driven like the rest of those though

it's barely even the same genre

>>78949851
>when 9 is loved mostly because it pandered to the older games in the series?

I appreciate the classic combat system and comfyness of the whole game more than the easter eggs laying around

>>78949936
All the best bits of 4 were callbacks to the first 3 games mostly 3

>>78950031
>tactics is more gameplay driven than story driven
You didn't play it.
>genre
Series is what's being discussed here, welcome to the conversation.

>>78949994
>Listening to others.
>EVER

I bet you thought bvs was bad too

>>78950006
>Cloud
>emo

Just in the part where he goes through mako poisoning and Sephiroth trying to take over his actions, and that was just a small part in the middle of the game.

>>78949936
This, but unironically

>>78950060

My first thought was that he hadn't played it, too. Tactics is super heavy on story.

>>78950050
4 had an entire chapter dedicated to calling back to the first game. It wasn't "mostly 3" at all.

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>>78949936
I don't care if I'm a pleb I teared up at this ending dammit.

>Boss the world only needs one Snake?.......No the world would be better off....without Snakes.

:____:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Pu92St5O0

>>78950073
I didn't like it but it wasn't poorly made

>>78950129
It's at least as heavy on story as any other FF title, there's no way he played it.

>>78950131
Literally every stupid thing in the story was from 3.

>>78950144
>l i t t l e m o n e y

>>78950144
>>78950060
I haven't played it since 1999 and remember spending 90% of the game doing combat shit and the story was just kind of tacked on

>>78949316
I understand why people hate it, but I thought it was wonderful corny fun.

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>>78949586
ff 6 is the only one were i feel like the story is compelling and interesting the whole way through all the others kinda drop off for me at certain points

>>78950214
I look back fondly on that retarded bug.

>>78950229
Do you also remember your mother drinking and smoking while pregnant with you?

>>78949866
I actually like the combat of 12 but the story is what kills it for me

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>>78950136
>This is good... Isn't it?

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>>78950231
get that shitty fanart out of here

>>78950258
What was wrong with the story? Its no different to the 10 that predate it

>>78950247
>Do you also remember your mother drinking and smoking while pregnant with you?

unfortunately yes,but tactics still doesn't belong in the same category as 7-12

Fuck off back to /v/ you cancerous faggots

So what did everyone think of 15?

I thought it was good. Disappointing summon system though

It's a sequel to a game with a confusing plot and rushed nonsensical ending... that proceeds to explain nothing about the original story and continues with its own confusing nonsensical (and above all uninteresting) story.
Worth a watch just to see.

>>78950415
I'll be honest, as cool as the cutscenes are, the summoning system is why I haven't played it yet. And there's only 4 of them? What the fuck is that?

>>78950415
Not really worth full price unless you love mindless side quests.

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>>78949316
I've been replaying 10 and it's still so fucking good.
All the complaints I've ever seen seem to be the most stupid inane shit like how the laughing scene was intentionally awkward which upset people for some reason.

>>78950430
Only idiots find FF7 confusing.

>>78950502
voice acting kind of fucks with part of the imagination aspect

I'm actually worried about the ff7 remake because of VAs

>>78949924
this.
Crisis core sucks. Leave FF7 alone, stop ruining it with faggotry

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>>78949316
I want to rewatch Spirits Within should I?
I remember liking it.

>>78949586
FUCK YOU XII IS KINO!

>>78950478
Its a game... what did you expect. Nearly all sidequests in all games is filler

>>78950321
Thats kinda the problem its really same same and the characters are extremely boring and forgettable with the exception of balthier

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>>78950285
Sorry

>>78950031
you're fucking retarded, tactics is all about the story while other entries were a lot more

>SHIT HAPPENS IN X BIG CITY
>wander around doing mini sidequests
>VILLAIN APPEARS
>wander around knowing shit will hit the fan soon
>BEAT FINAL BOSS

if you just pressed X and didnt read, of course you'd be stuck in long tactical battles and didn't figure out what was going on

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>>78950644
The sky pirates balthier and fran were goat and the relationship between them was great. They should have been the main characters desu, i liked ashe to.

The main protagonist was perhaps the worst character next to quina and cait sith in all of final fantasy

>>78950718
tactics is an actual game though and the other entries are interactive visual novels

>>78950833
According to you all JRPGs must be visual novels because they're the same as any other.

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>>78950864
you're right, enjoy

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>>78950820
Definitely agree also fran is a really underated ff girl

If SE made Basch or Balthier the main character, XII would've been GOAT but no they had to make the twink the MC

XII is still my favourite

>>78950920
???????

Just kill yourself idiot.

>>78951007
>dat ass in groundbreaking for it's day graphics
penelo was fine too

>>78951035
>>>/vr/

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>>78951028
I mean is it cliche to say ff 7 is you favorite yeah but it does have a great party, cool setting, and some of the best music in the series

>>78951028
is it too hard to understand that playing the twink and seeing shit happen right next to you is not a bad approach to storytelling?

as far as i remember the blonde dude carried the story along with the princess, the twink is just sticking around

>>78951028
I dont even get his appeal nor do i understand why penelo liked him.

Annoying vouce actor, shitty design, shitty character arc/ story. He was all round shit.

Basch would have made a great protag

>>78951182
>best music

That belongs to 9 my senpai followed by 8. 7 is my favourite game though

>>78950631
I'm saying that's what the game has going for it. The narrative is broken.

Love the Rufus scene.

>>78951328
I said some of the best and i would say 6 has the best overall soundtrack

>>78951367
I think the monster hunting and fishing were pretty fun but all the other ones were just boring fetch quests

The best final fantasy is final fantasy 7. I have declared it.

>you fucks don;'t even know who i ma

I dare you to

>>78951959
Nomura?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3sBZ5Nr4hc

This is the last hope Square has to restore itself to its former glory

>>78949586
>twelve and eight
>better than nine

You're not funny in the slightest.

>>78949316

What the fuck was the point?

>>78949586
Those are some good symbols to help the uninitiated from other board learn our memespells. Although flick shouldn't be negative, there can be some good flicks. Need something better than dung.

>>78952088
>That FPS during battle
vomits internally

>>78952088
The battle system has me worried desu fampai

>>78952088
I thought the new final fantasy 15 did good?

>>78950820

Can't wait till it's out for PC.

Been getting all my old FF games as they release on Steam.

Still need FF1, FF2, FF12, FF Tactics and a long as wait for FF15.

>>78952088
Is it going to have ff 15s battle system?

>>78952693
It did... what are you talking about?

>>78952845
>This is the last hope Square has to restore itself to its former glory
What did he mean by this if FFXV did fine? Also will it come to PC?

>>78952693
- Biggest open world game ever... with barely anything in it.

- 15 years in the making, and the shortest campaign out of any FF game.

- Need to watch Kingsglaive, the Botherhood Anime, and still don't really know what's going on.

It's a good game, but it's not a great game.

>>78949316
I liked it for what it was. I loved the game, and figured that it was essential to enjoying the movie, but my roomie who had never played a FF at all liked it a lot as well. The action was great, the music was fantastic, and I felt like it neatly capped off most of the unanswered questions from the half-assed ending to the game. The power of friendship scene vs Bahamut was stupid, but other than that nothing really bothered me. The extended edition is the way to go.

>>78952989
Me... and I know you fags are going to mention Daggerfall for biggest open world.

>>78952989
Is the combat fun though?

>>78953032

Not really. You just hold one button and spam pots. There is no real nuance.

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>>78952878
Sales wise it hit its targets reception wise it was mixed. I dont think anyone hated it but its no where near the golden age of final fantasy (7,8,9)

>pc pleb
>mfw

>>78952878
The PC release date is Q1 or Q2 2018. They're focusing on all the DLC first.

>>78952787
no, Nomura's in charge of it. If anything it will be closer to Kingdom Hearts
well here's hoping to that

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Movie was dull, but we finally got to see Yuffie in HD.

>>78953451
Of course /tv/ would go for the one that looks like a child.

>>78953487

She's 18 in the movie.

>>78953510
yet still looks like a child. That's the part you're not getting.

>>78953542

She's Asian. You can't tell if they're 12 or 32.

>>78953223
Eh thats alright i guess what about all this talk about it being episodic?

>>78953487
I played FFVII 5 or 6 times, and most of those I took Yuffie on the Gold Saucer date. Best girl is best.

>>78953580
Once, more you're focusing on age, and not the "childlike looks"

>>78953691

She doesn't look like a child at all. She looks like a teenager, which is what she is.

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>>78953542
looks adult 4me

>>78953592
Cyberconnect2 is co-developing it, which is fine on its own, except that they are known for the dot Hack franchise, which is an episodic series of games,
But even before the reveal of the co-developer, Square said that it will be episodic to avoid having to cut down content in one full game when it comes to remaking the whole game from the ground up.

It's the big thing that everyone is skeptical and worried about, how it's going to affect the game.

>"Whereas with Final Fantasy VII Remake, we already have a preexisting story, so it wouldn't really make sense if that isn't encompassed in a multi-part series... So if we're just looking at each of these parts, one part should be on par with the scale of one Final Fantasy XIII game."

>Continuing, the cover feature reiterates previous statements that Square Enix is taking some liberties with the story to modernise it.

>"I, along with [Tetsuya] Nomura-san and [Kazushige] Nojima-san--who are involved with the remake--were also involved with the original Final Fantasy," Kitase said. "We were the people who created it, so in that sense, we don't think anything is untouchable. That isn't to say we're changing everything!"

>>78949793
>plot translates well into games
>goes horribly wrong on the big screen

>>78954198
So what FF game topped FFVII?

I remember a few years back saying there were never going to remake FFVII unless another game topped it's story, characters, sales and innovation.

>>78954198
One thing they should really change is the romance macanic since no matter who you try to pursue in the orginal you basically end up falling for aerith

>>78954429
I can see people flip the fuck out if they finally put in a way to bring Aerith back.

I remember back in the day all the BS ways people said "worked 100% to bring her back"

>>78954785
They should, to be honest. The only reason that sideline wasn't finished in the original release was time and money running out.

Multiple possible endings would it make it worth playing, IMO.

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>>78949316
Cool visuals ,but I stil don't get shit about 50% of the movie since I never played any of the games.

>>78954785
>>78955083
Aerith's death was the first time I ever experienced anything like a sense of loss from a video game. To this day I can't think of anything in vidya that has ever evoked that much emotion from me. I wouldn't be pleased if they took that away by making a "right way" to play that let's her live.

>>78955420
It would have had more impact had I not played Phantasy Star IV before.

>>78949316
I remember hating this movie, but I found Advent Children Complete to be pretty fantastic.

>actually shows the Turks confronting the bad guys at the northern crater
>actually shows Cloud's inner struggle with accepting himself and just pretending to be Zach
Pretty entertaining overall. I'd say its an acceptable film but definitely more fan service than anything. Certainly watchable though, which is more than I would give to the original.

>>78951182
do you think they will use Mandy Moore for Aerith again?

>>78957316
>actually shows the Turks confronting the bad guys at the northern crater
you mean see them get their asses kicked, almost die, and then have two other Turks goons become part of a slapstick comedy duo fighting against the three Jenovafags
>actually shows Cloud's inner struggle with accepting himself and just pretending to be Zach
You mean what the game already did, explicitly?

>>78957462
>you mean see them get their asses kicked, almost die, and then have two other Turks goons become part of a slapstick comedy duo fighting against the three Jenovafags
First off, fuck off for implying that the Turks weren't slapstick comedy in FFVII. Secondly, that scene wasnt really played for laughs and was more them getting their shit handed and setting up their motivation for being involved.

>You mean what the game already did, explicitly?
Yeah, and? Did you think Cloud magically got over that at the end of the game? He felt responsible for giving everyone Space AIDS, that can fuck up even a normal person.

Why don't you actually point out the flaws in the movie, such as the lack of focus on the side party characters?

>>78957540
so the Turks always had comedic charm, you got me there. That aside there is no reason to regress Cloud's character.
if you are going to make him mourn for his past then do a better job instead of making him babysit a bunch of brats
the time that was used on the stupid children could have gone towards developing Cloud better and given more screentime to the rest of the cast making it a better fan service movie

>>78957847
> That aside there is no reason to regress Cloud's character.
There was no regression, you're just an idiot who assumed DURRRR THE GAME IS DONE THAT MEANS CLOUD IS FIXED when there is zero indication ingame that is the case.

You really find it to be some sort of character regression that a man tortured for years has anxiety issues over a disease that is killing people horribly that he may have contributed to?

>if you are going to make him mourn for his past then do a better job instead of making him babysit a bunch of brats
Nah, you're dumb. "Mourning his past"? What the fuck are you talking about? He was mourning those who were gone and those he had failed, but his method of "mourning" was distancing himself from others. I can't believe how thick you are.

>the time that was used on the stupid children could have gone towards developing Cloud better and given more screentime to the rest of the cast making it a better fan service movie
Cloud got plenty of screentime, you were just whining through all of it that it wasn't your Cloud. I agree that the rest of the cast should have appeared more (or rather, you agree with me on that point, since I was the one who brought it up).

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>>78950229
>I haven't played it since 1999 and remember spending 90% of the game doing combat shit and the story was just kind of tacked on
Probably because of the shit original translation. Re-translated FFT is kino and I wish there was an animated series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jhr9kikuNQ

Stop engaging compilationfags and talk about kino. They cannot be taught or reasoned with.

>>78955321
>Cool visuals ,but I stil don't get shit about 50% of the movie since I never played any of the games.
You wouldn't have got it if you played FF7 either. There's nothing to get. Plot is shit and jut an excuse for flying animu fights + fanservice.

>>78957982
the geostigma was a retarded disease that got cured by what, Aerith's will through the lifestream?
What was preventing her from doing it before? why did Cloud have to defeat "Sephiroth" again.
If Sephiroth was fucking with Aerith preventing her from healing people from the Geostigma thtrough the lifestream, then wont killing "him" with the remains of Jenova just send him back to the fucking lifestream?

The movie was fucking contrived. I don't mind Cloud having a depressing character arc to overcome n the movie. It was just uninteresting to watch because the movie was unengaging. It's just flash, fluff. You don't get the same effect of seeing Cloud relive the Nibelheim incident.

>>78958121
This. It's a retread with none of the pathos of the original and a flanderized MC.

>>78949316
Absolute dogshit that is barely coherent.

Could you please fuck off /v/

>>78949316
Bad. Clouds a boring character who "unzips katana teleport behind you". Maybe he was in the games too I don't think so but who fucking knows it doesn't matter anyways. No other memorable characters in the movie either.

I think they just expected you to shitbrix and weeb tears of joy just for seeing familiar characters but eh didn't do it for me. And I was a huge ff7 fan too I 100%'ed that game.

The movie has fucking terrible structure really. It doesn't get a pass just because you should have played the whole game either, and what if you did play it but didn't really understand it for whatever reason. Boring/10

>>78958458
>Maybe he was in the games too I don't think so but who fucking knows it doesn't matter anyways.
He wasn't. It's a combination of terrible writing in the movie and everything interesting about his character being resolved in the game.

>I think they just expected you to shitbrix and weeb tears of joy just for seeing familiar characters but eh didn't do it for me. And I was a huge ff7 fan too I 100%'ed that game.
Pretty much.

>>78949316
I don't even like the game but the movie is pretty good

>>78958121
>the geostigma was a retarded disease that got cured by what, Aerith's will through the lifestream?
Nigga go back and play Final Fantasy VII, it doesnt seem like you remember it.

>What was preventing her from doing it before? why did Cloud have to defeat "Sephiroth" again.
Fanservice.

Actually, what was preventing her from doing it was JENOVA poisoning the lifestream. This is kinda inexcusable not to know, its one of the plot points the movie hammers into your bran.

>If Sephiroth was fucking with Aerith preventing her from healing people from the Geostigma thtrough the lifestream, then wont killing "him" with the remains of Jenova just send him back to the fucking lifestream?
Nigga you are dumb as shit.

CLOUD THREW SEPHIROTH INTO THE LIFESTREAM

Sephiroth wasn't even physically present in AC, that was him using Kadaj like a puppet. He got his ass purified.

>The movie was fucking contrived.
No shit.
>I don't mind Cloud having a depressing character arc to overcome n the movie. It was just uninteresting to watch because the movie was unengaging. It's just flash, fluff. You don't get the same effect of seeing Cloud relive the Nibelheim incident.
What effect was that? You barely seem to remember the game and I think your understanding of Cloud's personality stems from him saying "Lets mosey". All of your problems with AC seem to be that it exists. Your complaints don't stem from how things were handled, but that they were just handled at all. I don't know what sort of FFVII sequel movie you would have found engaging, and I doubt you do either.

>>78958370
>Flanderized MC
Nah, if that was the case Cloud would go snowboarding.

>>78958424
this is the big kids table

>>78958424
Sorry dawg, didn't want to keep you from your /pol/ threads and BRAAAP posting.

>>78958798
Cloud defeated Sephiroth in the life stream! That was supposed to be the end of it. Having "traces" remaining is just retarded and was done to create a controved plot for a fanservice movie.
With Sephiroth gone, we could have had Shinra become a more antagonizing figure not having learned from their mistakes, and abuse mako energy once again, now that Jenova and Sephiroth are gone.

>Sephiroth wasn't even physically present in AC, that was him using Kadaj like a puppet. He got his ass purified.
get the fuck out of here, he completely materialized himself using Kadaj's Jenova cells because why the fuck not. He even materialized his clothe and masamune because again, why the fuck not?

>>78958950
Don't bother, man. He's literally incapable of seeing what you're describing.

>>78958798
>Your complaints don't stem from how things were handled, but that they were just handled at all.

What does that even mean, I was displeased from what I got.

I did not like what was presented to me, I didn't like Advent Children because the antagonists felt shallow, and before you even dare to say that Sephiroth is a shallow villain, we were exposed to him so much. Being a prodigy, experimented by his mother and father to be the next super soldier, seeing him break down once he found out and mistook Jenova for his actual mother. Sephiroth was interesting because we see him grow as an antagonizing figure throughout the game. Same with Rufus to a lesser extent and he would have made a better antagonist for the new movie.

That and other reasons I said before that you somehow deem as not actual reasons for disliking the movie.

>Nigga go back and play Final Fantasy VII, it doesnt seem like you remember it.
If you can't even correct me and explain how the geostigma was cured without making the plot sound retarded then you shouldn't talk shit.

>>78959000
You should listen to this poster, I just gave up on this. There's nothing to be gained by talking to you when you have no idea about FFVII or AC.

>>78949994
How do hell do you get all those rare materia on Gold Saucer?

Bad film, not even good fan service.

>Cid Gets like 3 lines in the original release of the film
>in the Super Mega Ultimate Cut™ his three lines get cut down to like 1
>meanwhile more screentime for OC child character nobody gives a fuck about.

>>78950502
FFX was my first (as long as we're not counting Kingdom Hearts), and was a great experience.

>>78951007
I remember playing FF12 in a room with my family watching, and literally going speechless mid-sentence from a view of Fran's rear.

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>>78949586
"Ramza, what did you get? I..."
Kino indeed.

>>78949316

too advance for white "people"

>>78949936
Swap 5 & 3 and I'd agree.

>>78960980
>dat Engrish
Life is short! Bury, steady sword!

>>78960980
>no gorgeous animated version of this in the re-release
ONE JOB

>>78949316

Dilly dally shilly shally!

>>78949765
We can ignore all the 8 bit FFs because they're painfully primitive. FF4 is borderline tolerable but the characters are all boring cliches so it wouldn't win in any case.

FF5 had a great battle system for its time with a lot of flexibility. Like all FFs it's horribly broken, but it's good for challenge runs. The story and characters aren't the focus.

FF6 is the earliest serious candidate for being best. But it lacks focus with too many characters and a story that loses all direction at the World of Ruin. Great soundtrack ruined by the shitty SNES sound chip.

FF7 is still the most ambitious from a storytelling point of view. It features unreliable narration and the plot isn't spelled out for you. It's possible to have no idea what's going on if you don't pay attention (the bad translation doesn't help). Great and memorable characters (Cloud's buster sword is still the iconic JRPG sword), great soundtrack with better sound hardware this time. Battle system is nothing special and disk based systems bring load times, but still a serious candidate for best FF.

FF8 is highly ambitious from a character point of view. Nobody is a pure JRPG cliche. The battle system tries something new too. Sadly all the attempts at innovation were failures, but at least they tried, which is more than can be said for FF9.

FF9 is shit. Imagine FF4 except slower paced. It's a reaction to the complaints about FF8, which is stupid because FF8 sold better.

FFX will always be remembered for the laughing scene. It's hard to give it a fair review because of this, but it's really a good FF game. It really benefits from the stronger hardware. It's a candidate for being best.

Post-FFX I was too old to unironically enjoy JRPGs.

So basically it's FF6, FF7 or FFX, and FF7 has Tifa so FF7 wins.

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>>78950078
Original Cloud was best.