A good friend

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>>78933259

>>78933304
The part with Yoda and the Whills is

Implying Dark Empire is not the best post ROTJ EU ever produced and doesn't contradict any of the six movies

>>78933304
Why? Cause Disney bought it? Or cause Lucas didn't write it?
Cause he didn't wrote ESB or ROTJ either

>>78933581
It's trash

>>78933591
C'mon explain every point you don't like and I'll tell you why you are wrong

>>78933602
>your opinion on science fantasy fanfiction
>is wrong
Right...

>>78933589
Disney's approved canon is the only material that is canon. Dark Empire is not canon

>>78933614
>Star Wars
>Any science whatsoever
kill yourself

>>78933642
Calm down, the genre is literally called science fantasy...

>>78933627
Why? Cause they bought it?

>>78933691
No it's fucking space opera.

>>78933614
Tell me what you didn't like

>>78933259
that costume looks horrible

>>78933259
>>78933742
He legitimately looks like a hobo.

>>78933699
Yes?

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Luke, did I ever tell you about "Squid Lake"?. It was a Mon Calamari ballet. Shortly after the Battle of Coruscant, the play was performed at the Galaxies Opera House on Coruscant. It was during this play that Supreme Chancellor Sheev Palpatine told Anakin Skywalker the story of Darth Plagueis and how the Dark Lord of the Sith was able to save those he loved from death. It was a good show.

>>78933707
It is a multi-genre thing: space fantasy/space opera/space western

>>78933712
The premise of Emperor Strikes Back 2: Clone Boogaloo is fucking tired to me and unoriginal.
>Luke fights the Emperor...AGAIN!
>Luke is tempted by the Dark Side...AGAIN!
It is like a child wrote it, even his son and Han's son are Cursed Child-tier memes

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>>78933877
You mean the story of Darth Plagueis, tje Wise?

>>78933707
>The genre of Star Wars was explicitly stated by Lucas to be space fantasy

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScienceFantasy?from=Main.ScienceFictionVersusFantasy

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>>78933877
Isn't calling it Squid Lake kinda racist towards the Mon Calamari? It would be like if they made an opera with an all-black cast and called it Monkey Jungle or something

>>78933259
>Did I ever tell you about Luuke and Luuuke Skywalker? They were my clones created by the Empire from my severed hand, Luuuke would eventually invent a timemachine and go back in time to the Clone Wars

Jettisoning that EU shit was the smartest thing Disney ever did.

>>78934352
Mon Calamari are fish not squid

>>78933905
>Luke is tempted by the Dark Side...AGAIN!
He
Luke was never tempted by the DS in ROTJ

>Luke fights the Emperor...AGAIN!
He didn't fight him in ROTJ

>even his son and Han's son are Cursed Child-tier memes
not like kylo right?
and he didn't poses them

>>78934491
I always thought their eyes and headshapes looked more squid-like

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>>78934531
>Luke was never tempted by the DS in ROTJ
Are you dumb?
>He didn't fight him in ROTJ
Semantics faggot. Sheev was the final boss
>not like kylo right?
Kylo is by far more interesting than any fanfiction-tier offspring in the EU, keep clinging to this fedora meme that the EU is some masterpiece
>and he didn't poses them
Literally don't understand what this means

What an aspie you must be

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>>78934531
>Luke was never tempted by the Dark Side
This is clearly bait, right?

>>78934689
>Are you dumb?
No really, he was never tempted, he only got angry and fight vader
He never show any intention to join, he didn't have a reason to
Join me
No
that was about it
>Kylo is by far more interesting than any fanfiction-tier offspring in the EU,
Lol you work at disney no? Kylo is a school shooter emo

>keep clinging to this fedora meme that the EU is some masterpiece
Eu hate is far more fedora
I didn't said it was a masterpiece, it's a comic like the movie, is fantasy, entertainment

>Literally don't understand what this means
You said the son of Solo was cursed wich doesn't appear in Dark Empire
The emperor tries to posses the body but fails so it's not cursed

>>78934762
No show me where he was
See the movie again
See the fight again
He fought vader and then said no
"I'll never join you"
Now if dark side only means getting angry when you fight then oh yes he totally was, what a powerful sith Luke was saying "NEVER" and such

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>>78934838
>>78934823

You have to be retarded, fighting and facing Vader, that WHOLE setup, was an attempt to temp him and it almost worked. Luke was seeing a taste of his power through anger, like if he followed his father. But he controlled the rage and won against the pull of the Dark Side.

For shits sake, Yoda talks about this twice, once before he dies and firstly in Empire before Luke runs off to save Han

How can you miss the fucking mark in such a blatant way? Holy cow, you must be exceptionally dumb

>>78934491
FISHES !!!! WITH FEET!!!!! IN SPAAAAAAACE!!!!!

>>78933691
>>78933885
If it's space FANTASY, why are there no elves? CHECK MATE

>>78934923
It's clearly a kid / spic trying to fit in

>>78935149
>>78934923
In ANH Obi Wan mentions clones
Vader say the force is more powerful than destroying a planet
Sheev in ROTJ say Plagueis could stop people from dying and that the dark side is the path to unnatural things
Now what power could luke got from joining the emperor?
What reasons did he have to fall to the dark side?
Geting angry?
He said no before the lighting strikes
He never saw any power of the dark side other than lol I'm getting angry
Dark Empire show us the true power of Palpatine and how Luke tries to become his apprentice to learn of him and help the rebellion
If they would've made movies about it you'd love it

>>78935200
I'm not entertaining your autism anymore

>>78935317
What autism?
That a company merging doesn't decide what i like?
That's autism?

>>78935325
Stop posting senpai

>>78935337
great argument

>>78935200
Why would Palpatine wanna take Luke on as his apprentice? Is he really that dumb? It would make for an interesting "what if" but I don't think it would work if Luke is trying to learn more for the sake of the rebellion. If he was smart, Palpatine would make Luke do some fucked up shit after what already happened between them before he would teach him anything worthwhile.

>>78933699
are you dense, motherfucker? "WHY, CAUSE THEY BOUGHT IT?"

>>78935666
why would he on ROTJ

>>78935666
Oh and thanks to that Palpatine knew the location of the rebel base and he destroyed it

>>78935763
Yeah this sounds really dumb and out of character just for the sake of "wouldn't it be cool if Luke joined the Dark Side undercover?" The thing he learned was choosing to not embrace the Dark Side because it gives no benefits even if you're doing it to help others. Having him do this completely goes against what he had learn, making his journey a failure.

>>78933699
Yeah disney bought it mother fucker. You can still enjoy non-canon stories and games. It's just not part of the main saga.

>>78934491
Calamari literally means Squid.

>>78935849
the galaxy was doomed if he didn't wich was an interesting point

>>78933589
Actually Lucas did write the story to ESB you casual

>>78934838
>"I'll never join you"
>"Only a sith deals in absolutes"

What did obi-wan mean by etc etc

>>78935916
George wrote maybe 60-70 percent
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Empire_Strikes_Back
>Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan wrote the screenplay, with George Lucas writing the film's story and serving as executive producer

>>78933589
Because all the EU got nuked when Disney bought Star Wars.

The only legacy canon are the movies, The Clobe Wars cartoon, Star Wars: Rebels cartoon, and the Star Wars Holiday Special. Only Nu-EU books and comics produced under Disney are canon, all the old stuff is gone.

>>78936692
so if sony buys disney in 10 years all the stuff they've done would be non canon too?

>>78936781
You understand that rights holders are allowed to determine that kind of shit right? This should be a super simple concept.

>>78936781
If they wish it. It's just a product to them.

>>78936781
Do you just not understand how "canon" works?

>>78934352
Considering the same people then went on to enslave them pretty much right afterwards, that sounds about right.

>>78933259
>Emperor's Clone

What was his name? Sheeev?

>>78936904
Steev

>>78936904
Shhhhheeeeeeeeeev

>>78936817
why should this guide what I like or follow?

>>78936904
the sould was the same

>>78936983
You/anon asked what was canon or not.

I feel like in order to avoid fucking with the canon but still make stuff with the same characters/in the same universe creators shouldn't take someone in the middle of their journey in one canon and put it into another, rather a whole new origin story with some notable differences that make the story stand out can do good. It's not even that an origin story has to be shown, it simply needs to be implied.

For example i love all the depictions of alice in wonderland and i don't care if something is canon or not there (admittedly it may be a weak and incomparable example and i would have appreciated if someone would pinpoint why that is so).

>>78937014
I just liked some part of the EU and some sperglord said NOT CANON like the fact that's no longer canon means i can't like it or bought it in star wars discussion

>>78933877
So what did Sheev do in his spare time? That scene implies he likes opera and is therefore patrician, but what else? Was he into womanising?

>>78937179
Big Star Trek fan

>>78937179
planing his clones

>>78933602
emperor clone
/thread
/life

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>>78934352
Darth Bane?

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>>78937179
He fucked alien bitches regularly in his giant bed. And when he wasn't doing that he shitposted on message boards on the computer in the room next to his bedroom

>>78937453
it's a clone of his body
the soul is the same that in ROTJ
he can transfer itself
like a force ghosts, like yoda and obi wan
The dark side is the path to unnatural things
There's nothing more unnatural than inmortality

Name one thing Sheev did wrong. He brought stability and peace to the galaxy and stopped a tiny group of zealous warrior monks from having any influence on politics.
Plus, everything he did was completely legal.

>>78937510
funny thing those murals are from the sith war so naga sadow should be canon

>>78937510
fuck the thought of emperor sheev palpatine standing in there having a shower is hilarious

>>78937114
Nobody said that. People explained what canon was. Nobody oppressed your personal taste. Stop being a sperg.

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>>78937635
I imagine him making this face as he takes a hot shower

>>78937579
That's not how that works. New canon can draw on elements of the tossed out EU, but that doesn't mean all the elements are the same as before. Just because you see one thing doesn't mean other things connected to it are canon.

Stop being so obtuse about how canon works just because you liked the old EU.

>>78937706
or as a twilek sucks his dick

>>78937778
in hot shower

>>78937737
so the only reason to decanonize it is to copy it freely

>>78937510
Holy shit that is comfy as fuck.
Is sheev officially /ourguy/?

>>78933259
You make fun, but I think that was legitimately better than the shit we got in Ep. VII.

>>78937579
So Sheev had a mural of sith history? Are the Jedi fine with just an interest in the sith then, like a guy who owns nazi memorabilia?

>>78937808
The canon is being consolidated and reworked under Disney. It uses elements of the EU Disney likes but may significantly rework them. Just because you see a thing in the new canon doesn't mean it has the same meaning as in the EU.

You can't possibly be this dense can you?

>>78933259
Why didn't he just like tell everyone about the impending Vong invasion? And what purpose did killing Jedi serve? It doesn't make sense to kill Jedi just because the Vong were immune to them.

>>78937907
it would be like a d day photo
it was a sith was against the republic

>>78937937
stop sucking disney cock

>>78937971
he didn't know about the vong op is memeing

>>78937562
Genocide is usually frowned upon

>>78938138
Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette

Gotta squeeze a few oranges to make juice

>>78938138
Yeah I know, the Jedi attempting to genocide the religious minority known as the sith (by arresting and then attempting to murder it's last member) is pretty horrible.

>>78937905
Literally the globe disagrees

>>78938076
He literally did though. Before Disney, that was canon...his "Vong defense master plan" was canon, friendo

>>78938160
>sith are literally space Nazis trying to purge the galaxy through emo tryhard sperg fits and are connected to an objectively evil source of magic
>not the bad guys
WEW

>>78938196
where did he mentioned?
What book?

>>78938225
>purge the galaxy
more like control it
not purged it
they never purged allied planets or races

>>78938227
It was in mentioned in both books and comics, all of which were approved by the Lucasarts team before the Disney buyout.

>>78938247
>they never purged allied planets or races
Yes...they did. Numerous times.

>>78938271
yeah but wich ones

>>78938292
really?
examples?

>>78938247
>what was the Death Star?

>>78938346
a device to destroy rebel planets like alderaan

>>78938400
>Implying an entire planet can be "rebel"
Anon...

>>78938343
>wiped out planets during the time of the Old Republic
>sun crusher bullshit
>have used sith artifacts to wipe out races
>sith war, wiped out races that disobeyed them
>Sherv as Sideous genocided disagreeing or rebelling Separatist planets during Clone Wars
>wiped out the Jedi
>wiped out Mandalorians during Rebels as the Empire
>wiped out Aldeeran with Death Star
>a handful of planets with Starkiller
Are you new to this?

>>78938400
...controlled by a Sith Lord

Why didn't the Empire just attack the rebels? If they didn't kill countless civilians they would probably inspire less revolution. There are limits to collateral damage.

>>78938458
Watch Rebels.

>>78938158
We're making the mother of all omelettes here Obi Wan

>>78938539
Good

I'm hungry

Hungry for galactic justice and unity

>>78938419
they voted for a rebel senator
always
alderaan was the sweden of sw
fagot central

>wiped out planets during the time of the Old Republic
>sun crusher bullshit
>have used sith artifacts to wipe out races
>sith war, wiped out races that disobeyed them
>Sherv as Sideous genocided disagreeing or rebelling Separatist planets during Clone Wars
their fault for disagreeing
>wiped out the Jedi
the jedis wiped out the sith when they could
>wiped out Mandalorians during Rebels as the Empire
mandalorians were a threat even for the republic
>wiped out Aldeeran with Death Star
rebel planet
>a handful of planets with Starkiller
not sith

>>78938498
>watch a cartoon made for children

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>>78938498
>watch rebels

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>>78938568
>>78938590
Oh go fuck yourselves.
"Waahhhh I wont watch something because it is le cartoon waaahh" is the most autistic thing to say. Rebels is a pretty solid show post S1 and it does a decent job filling in the gaps between 3 and 4

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>>78938776
Go to bed, Jonathan.

>>78938799
Probably older than you are kiddo.

>>78933627
>>78935866
>>78935708
>>78933865
>it's fake-real b-because the jews at Disney say so!
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

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>>78938845
Holy shit are you this retarded? Saying Disney gets to decide what the canon is or isn't is by no means an appeal to authority you fucking idiot. This has to be poor bait, right?

>>78938845
It's fiction it's all fake

>>78938173
>a bunch of lemmings liked a retelling of epIV with more CGI and niggers this time
Neat point.

>>78938845
Yes, Disney gets to decide. I honestly cant understand why you struggle with this

>>78938911
Wrong board, Sam

>>78938905
Hence the term 'fake-real'

>>78938894
The point is what the jews at Disney say or don't say is 'real' in Starwars is utterly fucking irrelevant to anything. Large swaths of the EU were garbage, but so was Episode VII. It's a fucking glib rehash of Episode IV that completely shit all over the story arcs of the entire OT. It's complete fucking trash and the only thing that remains not trash in the entirety of Starwars is the OT.

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>>78938911
>NO CONSENSUS MATTERS AT ALL IF IT ISNT A FRINGE GROUP OF TEN AUTISTS WHO LIKE THE PREQUELS ON A PEDO MAY MAY BOARD REEEEEEE SAVE ME HUGBOX!!!

>>78938925
Nope. see >>78938975

>>78938568

All of Star Wars is a cartoon made for children

>>78938975
>what the jews at Disney say or don't say is 'real' in Starwars is utterly fucking irrelevant
No it isnt you absolute fucking aspie tardnugget waste of air. You are objectively wrong

>>78938987
Nice strawman fallacy you have there. Reminder that the plot of EpVII is retarded and is non-sensical to the trajectory of RotJ.

>>78938948
>he said nigger he must be from /pol/
Back to plebbit, newfag.

>>78938991
Nope, this is still wrong and you just make yourself look more and more retarded

>>78939007
>No it isnt
Of course it is. Their opinion on what 'counts' is entirely irrelevant and has no more validity because they shelled out 4bill to cash in on nostalgia feels from morons like you.

Episode VII is shit, the story is shit, and it makes no sense compared to the point Return left off from. It doesn't count.

Neither does Alien 3 or Terminator 3 for that matter.

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>>78939016
>STAR WARS IS RUN BY JEWS AND HAS A NIGGER!!!
>psh, what are you a newfag who thinks I am /pol/?

>>78939019
>still no argument

see >>78939037

>>78938975

>what the jews at Disney say or don't say is 'real' in Starwars is utterly fucking irrelevant to anything
>utterly irrelevant

They are LITERALLY the only ones that dictates what is and what is not canon. Are you retard?

>>78939063
>>STAR WARS IS RUN BY JEWS
Objectively true.
>AND HAS A NIGGER!!!
Objectively true.

Neither of those are central to the point of that post though, dummy. Learn to read?

>>78939037
I dont think I have ever had a more autistic debate in my life. This level or stupid is beyond /v/ levels or retard

>>78939082
Just calling a spade a spade /pol/. You faggots arent subtle

>>78939064
Please kill yourself

>>78939095
>he thinks the words jew and nigger are used everywhere on 4chan
You are new. Just calling a spade a spade and all. Also you fell for trigger words instead of addressing what was said. You're a joke.

>>78933259
not canon ;)

>>78939146
>Didn't read the thread

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>>78939111
>says entry level /pol/ autism
>"what are you new?"
I absolutely guarantee that I am at last ten years older than you. Lurk more you juvenile faggot. I know this must be your first day after /pol/ and you are ready with your """redpill"" folders about the Holohoax and you watched The Greatest Story Never Told, but trust me...we have all heard it before. We all get it, you think irs cool to say Nigger...woah, ao edgey

Run along now.

>>78939146
That part about yoda is tho

>>78939106
>>78939084
>>78939076
>>78939146
Hello morons, allow me to debunk and destroy your entire retarded fucking argument.

Again, by your argument, if Disney (or whatever billionaire bought the SW IP) came along and decided that everything past Return of the Jedi was no longer canon, that the day after the Battle of Endor time-traveling Muslims invade the Star Wars galaxy and began destroying every planet in site, killing Luke, Leia, Admiral Fishman etc, then that would be a PERFECTLY VALID ending to the Star Wars story, because some rich Saudi prince decided to fuck around and buy the Star Wars IP.

Your arguments are MORONIC. They are an Appeal to Authority fallacy. There are rules that exist (namely logic and reason) that dictate what makes sense within the framework of the story set up by the OT. Disney is shit and so are you.

>>78939193
>Again, by your argument, if Disney (or whatever billionaire bought the SW IP) came along and decided that everything past Return of the Jedi was no longer canon, that the day after the Battle of Endor time-traveling Muslims invade the Star Wars galaxy and began destroying every planet in site, killing Luke, Leia, Admiral Fishman etc, then that would be a PERFECTLY VALID ending to the Star Wars story, because some rich Saudi prince decided to fuck around and buy the Star Wars IP

Yes, it would be canon. Whether I like it or not is irrelevant. Since I'm not on the spectrum.

>>78939193

Not a argument

>>78939193
>They are an Appeal to Authority fallacy
You dont know what this means you Debate 101 dropout retard

>>78939187
>We all get it, you think irs cool to say Nigger
Again, you painfully stupid person, the use of the words 'nigger' and 'jew' were entirely irrelevant to what was being said. Using those words does not dictate that one is from /pol/.

The point of what was said in the original post was refuting the moronic point that Episode VII is good because 'the world says so' by pointing out that the majority people are retarded fucking lemmings.

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>>78939259
...which is contingent on the autistic concept that I should care about blacks being in Star Wars or be concerned with "Jews" running Disney. You can be in denial about being /pol/ all you want Spencer, no normal and chemically balanced person gets triggered over blacks in science fantasy about space wizards and autistic farm hands

You really should just kill yourself, you will not be welcome on this site, not even /pol/ wants you. You arent subtle enough

>>78939250
>>78939236
(Actually) Not an argument.

>>78939223
>Whether I like it or not is irrelevant
You're making something subjective that isn't subjective. Disney's nostalgia rehash is objectively a shit story, that does not make coherent sense to the preceding Star Wars lore. It is literally at odds with the preceding story, just as space-Muslims invading would be. It's not canon, because it doesn't follow the previous story. Disney's story is invalid fan-fiction, and nothing more. You simply place undue value on it because they also have billions of dollars.

>>78939329
>..which is contingent on the autistic concept that I should care about blacks being in Star Wars
No, it wasn't, you laughably stupid moron. It was actually irrelevant to the core point.

>or be concerned with "Jews" running Disney
See above. You just got plebbit-triggered by those words.

I'll restate the only core point of the previous comment since your reading comprehension is sub-grade school level:

The point of what was said in the original post was refuting the moronic point that Episode VII is good because 'the world says so' by pointing out that the majority people are retarded fucking lemmings.

>>78939330
>It's not canon.
It is. No matter how fucking assraped and butthurt you are, it is canon you braindead turboautist. Nobody cares about what your opinion is, it doesnt change anything

I know this is bait but come the fuck on

>>78939362
>calls others reddit
>despite using reddit spacing
?

>>78939371
>Nobody cares about what your opinion is
I never gave an opinion. It OBJECTIVELY does not follow form the previous lore and is therefore not canon. Dicksuck billionaire fan-fiction all you want, it's still shit.

>>78939362
And they are lemmings because they are okay with niggers in Star Wars, right? Just admit you believe this. It is very apparent you want to backtrack from admitting that you have an issue with Jews and blacks.

>>78939396
...it doesnt matter if it is shit. It is canon.

>>78939362
>idc about Jews and niggers
>BUT JEWS AND NIGGERS REEE YOU ARE A LEMMING!
What did he mean by this?

>canon is such an easy concept
>somehow this triggers idiots and people still struggle with it
It baffles me

One retard is writing paragraphs...

>>78939464
>still can't read
Sad! Just admit you're a moron who was wrong and we can move on.

Welcome to 4chan, btw.

>>78939529
>>78939433
>a Saudi prince buys the SW IP and makes the story end with Muslim space fleets invading and killing everyone
>this is now canon according to morons like these

>>78937778
>>78937784

thanks now i have to jerk off

>>78939962
Yes, that is how it works. Why are you so remarkably obtuse on this?

>>78939923
>still not an argument
Indulge me, what are your opinions on niggers and jews??

>>78939962
Why are you so focused on Muslims having spaceships?

>>78940554
weren't the yuzang vongs space muslims?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GSkCSeVsfk

>>78936904
big sheev

>>78939962
i'd watch that

>>78939923
>Sad!
/pol/eddit detected

>>78939962
>this is now canon according to morons like these
Yes.

>>78939962
Hey man what are your political views btw? :3

Do you listen to podcast, or youtubers like stefan monylex