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Making Black Sails Great Again

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>Skipping through all their scenes

Why aren't you watching Black Sails the right way?
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>>78916784
Their constant plotting and scheming makes me want to headbutt a moving train.

Why can't they just go back to eating each others assholes?
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>>78916969
>69

Relevant get
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>>78916969
>Why can't they just go back to eating each others assholes?

Because that's also shitty television. It's only virtue is that it eats up less time. Go watch your porn alone.
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>>78917551
If they absolutely must have them on the show for several 5 minute scenes, then the eating of shit would be far more preferable than the spewing of it.
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>>78916784
Is this the official Black Sails thread for tonight's episode?
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>>78918918
Yes.
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>>78916784
le smug whore is now a master technician of mind games and warfare

Everyone knows that black prostitutes were the real pirates
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I stopped midway through season 3. What did I miss?
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>>78918918
>Is this the official Black Sails thread for tonight's episode?

You mean the one that already has a torrent up? Step it up man. You could have watched it hours ago.
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someone make a stream so we can all can shitpost in sinc
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>>78916784

already watched it and Flint is a fucking fool, I thought he was supposed to be some kind of tactical genius but even Vane could have unfucked that fight, he sailed up to south carolina, stole your flag ship and then put their capitol under the sword while this idiot got blindsided by another guy from his past.

Why is he treated like the MC when dead people fight better than he does.

Seriously he sailed his entire flotilla into the bay without scouting it. They're 12 year olds playing blizzard games that are better tacticians than this.

And the gutherie bitch is still not fucking dead. If Teach doesn't put that whore under the sword I swear by that is all right in universe..

She needs to fucking die.
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Is there a better intro on television?
>https://youtu.be/XFTcA4QLHw0
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>>78921803
>Eleanor Guthrie dying at the first episode

Give it 8 more.
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>>78920823
Charles Vane, Blackbeard and the best island fight thus far.
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>>78900258

Premiere thread
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>THE TRUE PIRATE KING
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>>78921868
underrated as fuck. Thirty-Nine episodes and I never get tired of it.
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>>78916784
what's this show? never heard of it
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>>78916784
Because its just gay propaganda
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>>78921868
Yes actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPjW75fIbUo
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>>78922992
Black Sails. Treasure Island prequel series. Pretty great writing.

>>78923010
>literally only one season of gay subplots
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>>78923055
Oh shit that reminds me, gotta watch this.
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So, Israel Hands or soon to be Pew?
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>>78922485

I know but every time I see her, I imagine tying a rope around her neck and slowly dragging her into the air.
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So are there a lot of tits and sex in this show? If so, I might watch it. Bonus if it has good writing.
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>>78923671

The early seasons have plenty of sex. Season 3 had probably the fewest scenes so far and the first episode had 1.
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>>78923284
k cute
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>>78923671
S1-S2 mostly. S3 focused more on the plot but still tits and ass to be found.

S1's slow but it picks up the pace. Pretty humorous too with some of the scenes of the protitutes.
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>>78923710
>>78923819
cheers m8s
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>tfw no traffic in BS threads
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>>78924077

>acting like a faggot won't scare off the majority

and fags wonder why they're ostracized.
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So who is the man with the red beard?
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>>78923284
Having any main character be gay at all is itself gay propaganda. It normalizes faggotry. You don't need it dirwctly in the plots, just knowing they are is enough.
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>>78924158
Probably a treasure island character
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>>78924203
Nigga the bisexual shit IS part of the plot that made their lover be committed to the insane asylum. It's one of the reasons Flint's old life would've been a shitty one if he continued to go on the run with his old name.
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>>78924203
It took awhile to find out that Flint is a banana swindler. But really black sails major fault is focusing too much on plot and scheming and isn't really funny or amusing anymore.
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>>78924203
Look man, I'm not one for gay guys but at least they dropped referencing it directly after the sacking of the town. The loss of his not-wife struck him harder to the point where the old lover is practically forgotten.
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>>78924252
>>78924302
>>78924310
>itt gay homosexuals liberal sjw's

Stop sucking dicks faggots
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>tfw can't torrent on Uni campus
Won't be able to watch until I go home for spring break.
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>>78924389

Pirates are famous buggers.
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>implying not everyone who comes from london isnt bi
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>>78924302
Still is with all the tactical shit and character development. Just different things that hooked us altogether
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>>78924457

Goat scene was about the only amusing scene
Watching silver try and fuck the monkey without the peg leg was a missed opportunity.
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>>78923413
I literally tell you went with the shitty x265 meme. Why do you faggots do this?
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>>78924389
>getting assblasted this much
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I'm glad Samurai Jack is still on the crew, but I wish the black guy with the fake razor teeth hadn't died. Those two were a perfect tandem.
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Rank season finales in order of best to least-best.

3 > 2 > 1
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>>78924631
3<1<2
>everything thats standing not being your best
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>>78924631
3>2>1 as well.
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I thought the first season had the best audio/visual direction. I remember feeling near sea-sick after the first episode in the first season.
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>>78924573
Didn't even notice he died. Asian guy on a ship was more noticeable.

>Just found out his name was Joji after rewatching S1
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>>78924689
S3 finale just had so much imo.

>massive scope of that island battle
>Hornigold getting his shit slapped for being a traitorous cunt
>battle scenes and quiet dialogue scenes play off each other excellently
>that palpable tension between Flint and Silver
>the culmination of Billy and co.'s schemes on Nassau
>that name drop at the end
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>just fuck my ship up
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>>78924837
I only wish Silver VS Dufrene wasn't just a one sided bar match.
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>>78924800
I remember some of the actors, Flint specifically, having trouble getting their groove on for some of the more complicated dialogue delivery scenes.
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>>78924837
For the finales, I just can't choose which one was the better between ESCAPE FROM CHARLESTOWN or DEFEND THE ISLAND.

I did honestly think Vane and Flint would be at each other's end for Silver selling the Urca info.
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>>78924502
That's literally a youtube snip.
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>>78924954

That's why you had vane chewing entire scenes brah.
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>>78924919
I agree. Was disappointing to see Dufrene's development since the end of S1 undermined like that.
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>>78925003
>Betrayed by the woman he loved
>More than twice

>Best bro and his girl betrayed your crew once
>made up, became best bros once more until his death which even then had a meaning

Never trust bitches. I'm even surprised Jack managed to lose his girl to a mattress seductress, and then get her back while going on a daily threesome. Alpha in the sack not much fighting with the pack.
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>>78925183

I was surprised anne said she loved Vane too, she seemed perpetually pissed off with him most of the time. Strangely he saved both of them but that didn't enter into her diatribe.

Jack has the right idea and Teach is right, getting jack to be what he was supposed to be all along is best outcome so far over that traitorous bitches actions.
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>>78924919
>>78925044
I honestly expected Dufrane to sport a hook hand just to be Silver's visual nemesis.
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>>78925183

Calico jack is the best of the leading actors with the most depth and character development. Watching him come to terms with having money and unable to do anything with it was amusing.
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>>78925258
They were brothers in arms, and hated the same thing more than they hated what they did to each other. I'd say it was a strong bond of partnership seeing how those three were almost always closely associated with each other. People knew Anne was Jack's girl, and knew that Jack was Vane's guy.
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>>78921868

That clas between outcasts, Civilization and the ever presence of Death.

Truly opening-kino
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>>78925279
>>78925258
>Go to S2 threadsthinking /tv/ will keep calling Jack a cuck, etc.
>Finish S2, people now have Jack as best guy

Feels gud.
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>>78925316

and yet Jack is the only one that strangely remembers that.

Though really I only started liking Anne by end of season 3.
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>>78925406

Its okay if you are getting cucked by another girl.
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I want to protect that mole.
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>>78925406
>SENPAI HAS TO NOTICE ME TODAY
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>>78925498
>See Idelle in the first season
>Oh wow what a cutie, too bad she'll just be a minor character

>Ends up being one of the more important supporting characters

PROGRESS.
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>>78925467
Really? I thought she was cute in S1's earlier episodes when she was jealous and kept saying "fuck you jack" very affectionately like a tsundere.

S3's latter parts though, it really made her stand out as the perfect Bonnie to a Clyde.
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>>78925003

I need to know how did nigga pulls off that accent and tone

IRL he sounds like some cartoon California surfer dude. In the show, however
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>>78925585

I would assume a voice coach worked with him to get it right.
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>>78925498
I'd like to believe she was in love with Vane if not just infatuated with him given that she was one of the few who talked to him more of a concerned character, and then being used to make Eleanor angry.
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>>78925585
great, now I'm imagining Charles Vane in Baywatch.
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>>78925582

Her earliest season one appearance made her too one note and wooden, and doing the whole emo tsundere thing can be very annoying in a scene. Being stoic would have gotten tough as nails thing across more than a perpetual snarl, and she loses it more as series goes on. Not to mention her worst season has to be 2, but season 3 fixed a lot of that and so far I'm not sure how I feel about her tirade against Jack for trying to live up to Vane's memory. In one way she is right but in other she comes off as an ungrateful bitch. They'd have nothing without vane. Many times over.
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>>78925550
I hope we get one more glimpse of those tits before it's all over.
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>>78925626

>who knew baywatch could be so violent
>life guards spring in to action as Vane walks out of the ocean covered in sand and seaweed, punching them out with a cigar in his mouth.

>possibly to beach boys music.
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>>78925636
She comes off a bit as trying to be independent but her emotional state makes her even more dependent on Jack. Like Teach said
>It's no wonder you're the quiet one.
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>>78925662
apparently he enjoyed the role so much he kept the sword Vane used and hung it on his fireplace
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I quit after watching the third episode of season 1 because I was bored and didn't care for the pointless sex scenes

how do i make this work? I can't get interested at all but I want a show about pirates
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>>78925595

I wonder how much of it is coaching and how much comes naturally though. I mean he must've impressed them enough during auditions to land the role. Either way it's pretty incredible.
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>>78925605
>one of the few who talked to him more of a concerned character
I only remember that happening once, right before Vane left to meet with the lumber people.
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>>78925656
>inb4 she's revealed to have escaped Nassau in the finale, changed her name to Mrs. Hawkins
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>>78925713
Thinks pick up considerably around the middle of the first season.
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>>78925713
I skipped the sex scenes so yeah you can watch it without the sex. S2 though had a sexual sideplot but you can pretty much skip ahead to anytime they're dry humping save for that threesome.
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>>78925656
show me a webm nerd
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>>78925675

>teach bringing the bantz as jack wants to rally the troops.

He just so badly wants to be the real deal that even Teach is kinda giving him benefit of doubt, I wonder if it has to do with Vane's death.

>>78925711

That is badass. And he will always have that.

>>78925714

Well unless they release the auditions as a bluray extra down the line, no way to know but most period shows employ a voice coach to help actors tune their accents.
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How anyone can find that bug eyed, jawless mulatto attractive is beyond me
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>>78925848
She has the cutest smile.

Though it bugs me that her teeth and Eleanor's are way too white.
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>>78925898
I just remembered thinking that she had insane plot armor because she's the nigress Silver marries in the future, and then S3 happened and now her plot armor just went down significantly.
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>>78925843
Link to a place where I can make webm's then. I haven't made one in a while.
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>>78925845
I had a sheer moment of panic in the boarding scene. I thought it was going to be Teach's infamous defeat part already.
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>>78925945

Well this show has a tendency to throw in anticlimatic shit so honestly it wouldn't surprise me.
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>>78925843
>>78925925
I'll make one if I can remember what episode it was.
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>having sex with used goods left on the beach
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>>78925985
Sex is sex.

Marrying one is a different matter.
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>>78925975
First scene from the last episode of season 1.
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>>78926034
Season 2 actually. I'm pretty sure S1 finale is him taking over the fort.
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Can't wait for next week. Wonder if Silver's going to have a baby by the end of it all.
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>>78916784
I stopped watching halfway through season one. Does it get any better? Do you not like seeing two sexy women fuck each other?
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>>78926063
>pretty sure S1 finale is him taking over the fort
You're right, but that's still the correct episode.

>>78925656 is literally the first thing you see after the opening theme, right before Jack tell's the madam to fuck off because she was stealing from the brothel and threatened him.
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>>78925975
>>78925843
done
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>>78926129
It does. Skip the sex and focus on Silver trying to gain rank while Billy ponders on betraying Flint.
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>>78926129
It picks up immensely from season 2 onward and reaches pure tv kino status in season 3.
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>>78926175
Thanks m8.

Can you make a webm for this scene too? >>78925656
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>>78926269
>>78926157
I can see why I got confused. Didn't know it was Idelle.
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>>78926175
God above...........those are some great proportions!
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>>78926175
>>78926382
I can see why she got promoted.
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>>78926368
I was only able to tell because the thing in her hair.
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>>78921803
He had word from one of Billy Bones' informants that it would be OK to sail into the harbor. He had no reason to think otherwise. Billy's informant lied, Billy tried to send word, but it didn't get to him in time, thus the clusterfuck.
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>>78926496

>trusting scout reports without due diligence

still inexcusable to not scout the harbor. He is an idiot.

Literally nothing would change if he had scouted the harbor, they couldn't suddenly get new ships or put on a better defense.

It was a terrible command decision. With everything on the line, you always fucking put out scouts. This is Etruscan era shit.
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>>78924158
Israel Hands

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Hands
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>>78926496
Wait, was Featherstone Idelle's "lover"?

Shit.
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Post more of her.
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>>78926571
I would but not my favorite girl anymore.
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>>78926540
>search actor's name
>search comes up with a historical person

kek
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>>78925585
He went to the school of parroting Christian Bale's Batman. By far the most grating thing about his character
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>>78926633
At least it wasn't garble like Batman.
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>>78926633

>trying to cuckpost about vane

anon pls
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>>78925656
She had a full frontal scene where she was fucking Vane before Guthrie bitch showed up
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>>78926658
it was posted in the thread.
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>>78926571
why does she have to be covered? ;_; I want to see her nice pussy
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>>78926702
She shows them pubes in one of the sex scenes but can't remember which episode out of all the scenes.
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>>78926702
Post the gif or WebM where she lefts the covers and points to come over.
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>>78926669
...and deleted before I got here, obviously.
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>>78926731
>>78926737
Bush is nice but I mean I want to see the actual thing. I have a feeling she has a really nice looking one for some reason.
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>>78926751
Oh. Didn't notice. Hold on, lemme post at mixtape
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>>78926175
>>78926368
my.mixtape.moe/hrtvdl.webm
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>>78921868

Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VNsjjYRgjc
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>>78926997
Ah the look of innocent love in that early part.

Then she goes full revengeance after Anne saves her.
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>>78926997
DAMN, thanks anon.
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>>78926997
10/10
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Stopped watching this show when I realized it was basically highschool-tier melodrama in a pirate setting, with something interesting happening only in the finale most of the time.
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Where are all the nude webms at
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>>78927081

Yep. It's shit. Sometimes it has redeeming beautiful scenes. Most times not.
Why can't pirates get done right?
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>>78925662
>>78925626
I would watch the fuck out of this.
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>>78926571

>Nigger prostitute

LOL
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>>78927081
>implying

It's a heist series turned city redemption setting. It was literally a treasure hunt when it started and if that's not what drives pirates to do what they do then you might as well add mystical shit in it and call it Curse of the Black Pearl
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>>78928172
She's half french as a character so it makes her an exotic in a beach brothel.
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>>78927189
deleted
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ayyye
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>>78921803
>>78926533
t. captain/v/
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>>78924150
>scraching your own hand is faggotry
you went full retard, guy
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>>78924631
2(ep9&10) >1 >3
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>>78924919
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>>78930337
>A man walks into a tavern out of the dead of night, threatens the entirety of the island, and then proceeds to remove a man's head with a metal shoe.

I loved as I hated that scene. I did wish he lived to be a vegetable which would make him even less than an invalid.
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>>78926669
she was in the s1e1 "Blackbeard"-orgy scene too, no?

Also... she was credited in s4e1, but i haven't seen her. did you??
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>>78930555
I am definitely sure she was just in the background at the fort underground but my copy had the scene in a really dark lighting so I can't tell.
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>>78920842
what site is that anon?
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Easily my favorite show of the best few years. God-tier acting, great characterization, twisty little plot, awesome setting. Never known a show to improve in quality so exponentially over time. I am going to miss the fuck out of it when it finishes, but at least it won't run on and turn crap like everything else these days.
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is season 1 just...kinda bad? I'm on ep3 and I'm really not feeling it.
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>>78929916

He lost equivalent of a battleship and two cruisers because he didn't scout the bay against 4 frigates. you would be shot in anyones navy for those kind of losses.

And not just any battleship but a spanish galleon, largest ship of its era.

It isn't /v/ nonsense, I made that so you could understand the colossal nature of his fuckup.

Sloops and caravels are tiny against frigate galleons with 4 rows of side guns.

His blunder and Teach's prognosticating saved this from being a complete loss when they had a massive advantage.

govenor guy not only lost his back home connects but the spanish want to roast this guy, so he is a debtors outlaw now, so no new fleet support and his marines are also traitors for disobeying orders, so no new troops except those coming to arrest him.

So no new troops or fleet, and has a handful of tiny ships against a massive armada and because he didn't scout the bay, they won.

Fuck you.
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>>78931366
It's slow paced with a focus on development the relationships and character. They filmed S1 and S2 back-to-back so that led to a much more sedate pacing. What till you get to the finale though, it'll redeem your effort.
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>>78931318
It gets better.
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>>78931318
It's weird that they changed the last two shots for S2 but didn't change it for S3 and S4
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>>78931366
the fuck is with you guys?
>starts with ship assault
>border house
>scheming then sword and cannonball fight for captaincy
>scheming and backstabbing for treasuremap
>thunder
>insight to sailor life by repairing the ship after thunder and whore-tent
>2 on 1 shipfight finale

what's there' not to love on season 1??
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>>78931374
Flint's ship wasn't even sailing in front as i saw, Theach could also be blamed for what happened. Also they told Featherstone fucked them over, didn't warned them about how many ship should they look out for
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I loved Spartacus, and I loved Banshee. Is this similarly machoistic and will get me pumped up with casual tits and glorious violence?
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>>78931642
>Featherstone fucked them over, didn't warned them about how many ship should they look out for
This, it was kind of a crucial plot point some people seemed to have missed
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>>78931654
Jack's quartermaster too. Why would he have withheld the information I wonder. Woodes already said that no one was willing to help the English.
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>>78931654

Why the fuck do you think I said he didn't scout it for himself. Trusting scouting reports instead of confirming intel losses you battles. That is exactly what I said, this "crucial" plot point doesn't assuage him of his stupidity.

>>78931642

Teach was behind the main three ships, that is how he got away, so how could he be blamed for that? The defiant hit the ship barrier first, then flint and then the third ship.

Teach was in the back, which is why they turned out to sea to lead the sloops away.

Go rewatch the scene. It was his fuckup the whole way. Not confirming the enemies position and tactics for yourself is on his head and no one elses. Plot armor be damned so they can stretch this fight out the entire season.
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>>78931703

loses*
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>>78931652
Well there's not really a great deal of decapitation, mutilation but there's enough action, blood and full body nudity on the prostitutes.
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>>78931703
Damn you're mad about this, I want to stick around and prod you for a while. You're wrong and your opinions are wrong!
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>>78931716
So is the action more like bloodless PG-13 Marvel shit than proper action movie bloodiness and bruises?

Do any of the female characters who aren't prostitutes (if there are any) show tits etc?
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>>78931732

I'm mad they either can't or won't write and make him not stupid in his decisions yet hoist him up as a paragon of naval skill.

Either it's bad writing for dramatic purposes or bad writing for other reasons or they just want him to be an idiot. I can't tell which at this point. Prod all you like facts won't change.
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>>78931733
>Action
Lots of blood but sword action doesn't have a lot. The cannon explosions, the personal table fights, the mutilation of some spoiler characters are indeed bloody enough to be R13.

>Female characters
Tits and ass. See >>78926854
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>>78931761
Thanks senpai it sounds good. But is the show itself actually good? Or is it only good coz pirates and memes and shit?
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>>78931750
Nah, you're mad because for once Flint was undermined. He's not a tactical god, he's simply tactically smart. The mistake lied at Billy's end and Flint is as human as any. Besides, if you think that in in the first episode of the final season they could storm the beach flawlessly, then they might as well have adopted Treasure Island in three episodes within the same season.
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>>78931782
For me it's really good. It starts off slow and the tits and asses overstays its welcome. When it comes to the finale of S1, it becomes one hell of a ride up until S2 due to the finale cliffhanger. It becomes half and half, one part is a pirate adventure, the other one is politics in pirate island. About three of the main characters are IRL pirates.
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>>78931806
That's great, I'll check it out, thanks heaps for your help.
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>>78931788

I never said it had to be flawlessly, but putting out a ship ahead of your fleet wouldn't have changed a thing in his plan and it is the kind of thing naval commanders do to make sure they're not running into a trap.

I get plot armor is so they can pad out a season but it isn't any less annoying and you're wrong..I don't even really like flint actually, all the homo stuff started to grate on me but he had his skill at least to make him palatable as a character and this is just..

it just makes him and everyone that follows him inept, regardless of treachery.

Every famous commander in existence starting with Gaius shits on scouting reports.

The entire point of war is deception. If enemy thinks you're strong, show them you're weak. If you're weak, make them think you're strong.

Just rolling into the bay like that its..I have no words for how dumb that seemed to me so maybe it does make me look autistic but come on.
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>>78931829
Well the reliance of information from a plant in the same island was much needed. Teach had his back and they expected an army guarding the island and instead they had a trap so low key that Billy only knew of it at the last minute. Given the chaos of politics in the island because of the uprisings, I'd say they underestimated Woodes laying down a trap and literally waiting for them to come from weeks on end.

Someone must have informed that they were coming and I'm betting on Featherstone.
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>>78926943
Holy shit that's amazing.
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>>78922627
hail long goat silver !
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>>78931829
sending a boat before the three ships would've look more stupid. They wanted to stop anyway, out of canon range, but just wasn't prepared to stop earlier... so.. yeah it's funny they rammed in there with almost full speed
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>>78930337

i like how he instinctly knows what needs to be done in situations like these and acts on it even if it's against his nature
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>>78922627
>>78931957
>I was no one
>Until you came and my frigate fell and I became something else
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>>78931960

it would have tested what they were up against and saved their fleet.

Stupid as it may seem, now they're down to 1 or 2 ships instead of 5.
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>>78916784
me and a bunch of people stopped when it was revealed that captain MC was a faggot, am i the only one who had the immersion broken by this?
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>>78931997
Not really. They stop mentioning it directly and everyone treated it like he just stole someone's wife.
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>>78931997

Unfortunately, historically a lot of them were male booty lovers so its unavoidable. They used to go on adventures to have an excuse to raid eachothers bums.
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>>78932057
i think thats only lgbt fake history
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>>78932154

They have journals of sailors, that's how a lot of historians built their views of various naval histories.
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>>78931997
Flint's bisexual storyline is about as tasteful in television as you can make it without leaving it out completely

stop complaining
it added dept to his character and made his lust for raging revenge way more explainable without branding him an absolute madman
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>>78931993
>I have watched her follow mad men
>I have watched her follow rich men
>i have watched her bow before tyrants
>but now it's time she had a king
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>>78918918
BACK SAILS IS BACK?

HOW MANY EPS HAVE I MISSED?
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>>78932230

one and torrents are up
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>>78932174
secret diary of 1 or 2 closetfaggots , who were beaten or mocked to death by the other sailors, like when the goatfucker in black sails was?
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>>78932154
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>>78932230
S04E01 aired yesterday

you haven't missed anything else

maybe besides the information that S4 will be the final season
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>>78932246
Yep. Historically they were even put to death. Flint kept his history a secret. I'm not sure if he revealed it all to Silver. I know he has told him about Miranda and Thomas but not the extent of what they had been, just what they were before they went to Nassau
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>>78932246

anon it might be hard to hear but their views on sexuality were very different from what they are now and while certain things were outside of societally correct actions, rich families would send their sons away on these voyages because nobody would say shit that way.

It's not that they wouldn't fuck women but honestly these guys were away from mixed company for years at a time unless they found natives somewhere.

Not to excuse it but between romantic companionship being largely a eighteenth century idea, a lot of relationships were built out of women being a trade good and traded from one family to the other for goods..and that was a custom for..I'd say at least a thousand years, probably longer.

Every society went through different phases of change but British had ways of dealing with impolite societal behavior and a lot of it was getting rid of said embarrassing family member on long sea voyages. That much we know. How much of it happened, how often, obviously its hard to ferret out details in a lot of situations but we know it happened.
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>>78926943
Holy shit this is amazing
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>>78932321

>Not knowing about pure 90s kino

youngyins.
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>>78932307
Some of them were even sent to asylums or for worse, lobotomized in the later years.
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>>78932329
>implying I lived in the west to witness this
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>>78925406
Still sort of a cuck, creators said that Anne Bonny is gay.
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>>78932337

Exactly look at Marquis de sade.
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>>78932373

that doesn't make any sense, she was shown riding his dick. a lot.

Lesbians tend to avoid that thing and quite a few become man haters outright.
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>>78932373
Bisexual. The semen demon just seduced her with psychological insistence. I'd probably forgive it more if it were Mary Read and not an OC.
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>>78932382
Well De Sade was in the gayest country in the world. He publicly flaunted his dick to the point where every hole's a goal. When he was imprisoned for indecency, he wrote smutfiction/halffiction of such escapades.

Dare I say /ourguy/?
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>>78932373
Anne Bonny and Mary Read were both pirates with Jack Rackham

Mary Read was said to pass for a man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Read
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>>78932403
>>78932393
They literally said that she's gay and that her relationship with Jack is like they're twins. She didn't know better because she went with him at 12.
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>>78932373
Nah she was till getting dick from Jack. It's just some college-aged bicuriousity. Plus Max really wanted some V's after losing trust in Eleanor
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>>78932416

Justine or another story was written on his toliet paper or something wasn't it?
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>>78932423
That information might as well have been outdated or forced. She loved Jack as a romantic partner.
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>>78932423

link?
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>>78932438
It's like from a month ago or less bro.
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>>78932437
Not Justine but it was a Bastille-written novel. Plus it's not farfetched to write on toilet paper but that was 150+ pages
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>>78932447
From literally who?
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>>78932473
John Steinberg, Black Sails' creator.

>>78932445
>"In terms of Rackham and Bonny, I think that was another thing that I assumed for a long time could never go away. That they were essentially, you know, that they were married. You know not legally, but they were functionally married. And then this story happened in Season 2 with Bonny, that I think with like with a gun to my head of things that I’m proud of with the show, probably at the top is this story of this woman coming out and understanding that she’s gay. Especially given the life she’s led, that was something we had to fight for. I think it was something that people were really weirded out by like “wait a minute, she kicks ass and she’s awesome why is she in a dress?” And so when we got to a point where it was like… I think she’s gay? Like I don’t think this is something we want to be wishy-washy about. It required getting over that hump with Rackham of Well like what am I going to do with this relationship? I don’t want to split them up? And I think it became something way more interesting, it became I think what they probably…yeah they’re twins essentially. I mean I think they are in the mythological sense they’re the twins in the story who are essentially two halves of the same person."
http://commonroomradio.com/2017/01/09/interview-with-jonathan-e-steinberg-black-sails-co-creator-and-wrangler-of-pirates/
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>>78932530
Still pretty bisexual. Creator's shipping her too hard with Max but likes Jack and Anne's duo too much. They are lovers, and they are equals.

Also keywords "I THINK" and "PROBABLY". I bet you they still fuck in one future episode before Jack...well...spoilers.

Great...this just turned Max's plot armor to impenetrable.
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>>78932530

so he's just making up stupid shit for dramatic purposes.
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>>78932530
From that I can say that John has an OTP but he can't break up the historical OTP that had a great relationship in the series.
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>>78932561
Clara Paget (Anne Bonny) basically said that in this season Max and Anne fuck though.
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>>78932530
Well at least Silver and Billy isn't remotely gay. I would've dropped it hard if it turned out every main character would have a romance subplot that would be jarring to the Nassau plot.
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>>78932585
Yeah but could be with Jack in another, or the same episode as well. There's a high chance that she'll survive the series with a baby, pleading the belly.
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>>78932530
Also adding to my previous post, it doesn't make sense that if BS Anne was completely gay, she wouldn't have had that threesome which in retrospect was pretty funny when Max tried to finger Jack's mouth.
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>>78932605
They're strictly friendzoned now, they're not following history (see also Vane, Blackbeard).
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>>78932628
It looked to me that she had that threesome because she wanted to include Jack in some way. I mean, she's been with the guy since she was 12. Then she told Max that she felt obligated because he saved her from her rapist husband.

Even Jack admitted that Anne gave up on her "great love" last season (ie Max).
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>>78932636
We'll see. In the mean time, Jack's fate is already set in stone from the trailers. It's only a matter of time before they hint at whether Anne feels pregnant or not.
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>>78932663
Yes, but doesn't mean that she's strictly one sided in her romantic interests. Her love for Jack may have decreased romantically in favor of Max but she still regards him as "could've been her husband" material from that talk they had on S3E9(?) or S3E10 about how they could never have had a normal life due to their debauchery.
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>>78932636

I'm glad they killed off vane now, after listening to this faggot talk, I'm surprised not every dude on show isn't gay.
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>>78932588
it was barely saved from the stamp being a show for fags after that s2e5 charactermurder, if they would do a """"""""twist"""""""""" like that again, nothing would save its honor, not even great finals. It would be just remembered as "that gay prequel of Treasure Island".


There wasn't anny faggotnes in TI, wasn't it? How could they wreck its writer's heritage so bad?
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>>78932669
>>78932690
Don't get me wrong, I've always thought Bonny was bisexual (Max is the dyke of the show). But I don't think a creator would say "gay" and that her and Rackham are siblings if he didn't have a reason.
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>>78932731
he wants an end game OTP so he decides to set rackham aside immediately without outright saying that they've broken up.
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>>78932731

Only reason he's doing any of it is to try and be as different as possible, that is literally only reason, he says so himself.
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>>78932730
>a show for fags
Literally what. There was only a gay kiss. Or do you count the dykes too?
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>>78932730
To be fair only three characters in TI are present in BS as of current, not counting Flint because he's a parrot by the book. I was so glad that Silver and Billy were mostly rivals for the control of the Walrus and that Flint wasn't looking for romance. Best bros are better than everyone looking for a buttfuck.
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>>78932770

Listening to this writer speak can make any straight dude go on edge. He treats writing like its his personal funhouse to fuck with.
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>>78932770
I think he's saying that it could've almost been a "gay fanfiction of a TI prequel" where Billy was Flint or Silver's lover, Silver was bisexual and Flint fucked Mr. Gates, Silver etc.
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>>78932770
just see what i replied to.
also in s3 when Flint and Silver had talks around the fire, felt the atmosphere somewhat gay.. Flint may had a coming out to Silver there, offscreen
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>>78932803
But it wasn't gay at all though.
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>>78932730
I love the show but it would've been disappointing if they had focused on the TI characters having forbidden love. Flint was at least well developed. Having love triangles would've been a fuckfest.
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>>78932809

He's seeing the scene through flint being gay, it is hard for guys to bro it up when they know so that is probably why he sees it that way.

I never really liked flint so I can feel more objective about it and scene could be seen that way if you felt that way but I didn't really see it either.
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>>78932803
Nah, he just feels different knowing that there's at least one person who he knows won't stab him in the back. Gates used to be his trusted confidante, and when he went behind his back despite he strangled him to death.

It's all uneasy friendships between the successor and his predecessor.
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>>78932827
Yep. Also Silver already found and is fucking his wife.
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>>78932859
>It could've been Max

dodged a bullet
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>>78932871
Well, the book describes in one line that Silver's wife is a nigress. Max is half black but not really a nigress. Madi is.
Besides the fact that Max is a turbodyke
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>>78932530
Despite that, I remember looking at tumblr fan art and was surprised that they enjoy JackxAnne as much as the JackxAnnexMax trio ship. They still make side jokes that Jack was and always is a third wheel.
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>>78932871

Not really, she could be taking Mary reads place even if they use baby defense to keep her from hanging.
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>>78932899
Well in S1 she was willing to leave with Silver to places unknown, and she has shown her talents of handling affairs and money to the point where one could ALMOST think that they'll be a pair in the future.

And then suddenly they just become acquaintances. Fantastic.
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>>78932905
I just meant in S1's first four episodes, and then Vane happened.
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>>78932900
Funny that you mention that because I used to follow for laughs a tranny/woman couple who cosplayed as Jack and Anne and they had a meltdown at Max and Anne.
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>>78932953

not like it matters, everyone he truly cares about ends up dead.
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>>78932953
>when shit's too gay for fags
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i only watch this show to see if the blonde bitch or the black slut die
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>>78932979
Max has an enormous plot armor. Eleanor's most likely gonna die.
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>>78932979

You're not the only one my friend.
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>>78932995

Isn't max an oc though as well and really only one that has true plot armor is bonny since they wouldn't hang pregnant women.
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>>78933112
>tfw based Jack will without a doubt die
>tfw Billy dies too early in the novel
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>>78933128
Despite what disney has told you about disney endings brah, in history and most fiction, being a pirate is a short stop, know what I mean?
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>>78933161
Yeah I know but with Jack's development and all, it's just disheartening to watch knowing that it might all be for nothing. Vane didn't go out like a lost cause getting marooned and all.
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>>78933190

Yeah but he got killed off years earlier but you're right, he chose his death in a way that would have meaning and last forever.
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>>78933190
Well, Calico Jack was a coward in real life.
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>>78933205
They somewhat took his historic cowardice and made it like he avoided physical conflict to the point where he's as bad a fighter as Mr. Dufresne. I liked that in the series. Must be why I liked the characterization.
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>>78933205
Would they have taken on a Man-O-War and won though? Seemed like Jack, despite his yellowbelly managed to be charming enough to lead fanatics to fight with him.
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>>78933205
>Calico Jack was a coward in real life.
That's bullshit.
>>
dumb show. pirates are obviously for en but the show is so women-centric it's crazy. and then they go and make the main character a fag. who would continue to watch after that?
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>>78916784
OH SHIT, HOW LONG UNTIL BLACK SAILS
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>>78922627
Fucking white phillip
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>>78933510
Episode 2? Next week.
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>>78916969
i can tell you that after episode 5 i wont miss them
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>>78933555
got a stream or something for the first ep? i cant find shit on vodlocker or coke and popcorn
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More like BLACKED sails am i right?
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>>78933727
do you think he shoved his stub up her cunt?
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>>78933727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL2txMU50CI
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>>78933751
Of course.
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>>78933714
https://eztv.ag/ep/188871/black-sails-s04e01-720p-hdtv-x264-fleet/
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>>78933727
>SILVERED
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>>78933902
STUMPED
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>>78933866
cheers Vane
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>>78934150

jesus christ that is perfect
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>>78933923
PEGGED
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>>78932307

"matey" is short for matelotage, which was a form of common law marriage between two sailors, for monetary security (say one gets hurt)

I'm sure there were "other" benefits


Lets not forget one of the main reasons people went into piracy was due to being labeled "undesirable" by the crown/ England/world in general, and Gay men fit the bill
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Captain Flint, I'm LJS
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>My name's john silver, and i have a long fucking dick

pretty lewd, Tbh
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>>78934844
>He works for the mutineer
>The black spot man

>BONES?

>aye
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>>78921803

>boats travel at the same speed at humvees

you're an idiot. You don't "scout" open water in front of a base you fucking fool.

>>78921868

there certainly isn't
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>>78935156
>boats travel at the same speed at humvees
that depends on how many blackies you have rowing
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>>78934150
>cheers Vane
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>>78933727

get your facts straight, when it's black female white male it's BLEACHED OR COLONIZED
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>>78917706
This post makes me want to go back and watch Spartacus. God damn.
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>>78935516
GINGERED
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>>78931652

I watched one episode of Spartacus and all of Banshee. It's better made/acted and not as gratuitous. It's more comparable to Vikings.
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>>78935516
>Literally a kiss on a forehead
DAUGHTERZONED
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>>78932530
(((steinberg))) as if there was any doubt
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>>78935516
Toby looks like Michael Fassbender.
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>>78924404
Use a VPN, retard.
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>>78924404
lol,
what shit uni is that? not engineering, right? here the unis are the places doing warez the most
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>>78926602
They are combibing the two into one, I think.
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>>78927189
/gif/ somewhere
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>>78931997
Flint was a faggot long before it was revealed that he loves cock. I mean. He's the villian of the show, that's the point. Having him be a dirt-digger is just another trait to show it.
Just like a generic bad guy killing an arms dealer after the deal in every 90s movie ever.
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>>78937095
but LJS is more of a dirty shitskin and scheming faggot.
Flint is a noble soldier who got seduced by Hamiltons and punished by the government/the crown.
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>>78937315
He's a spaniard, isn't he?
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>>78916784
That's exactly what I did, good taste op

they really should cut down on the pseudointellectual monologues as well
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>>78921868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPw-gIn6aj8
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>>78916784
b/c they're important parts of the plots and scheming. Even sex scenes aren't only there to get sexy points, but to set relations between characters and shit
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>>78934844
They work for the pirate, the hanged man...
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>>78937315
>>78937374
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_John_Silver

Although it doesnt mention it in TI, Silver is a jewish name and jews were commonly used on navigators on ships at that time as studying astronomy was considered a sin against the church (not believing the earth was the center of the universe).

LJS did have a black wife in TI and he was called LONG John Silver because he was tall
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>>78938004
VANE?
>>
is this bümping yet?
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>>78931366
I know that feel anon, I dropped it around episode 4-5, but then I tried again and the show gets insane around episode 6, and then never comes back down.
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>>78916784
Did anyone else notice they actually got a lot of the naval terminology right? I was pleasantly surprised.

Though I doubt a wooden wreck could tear a ships hull apart like it did and why did our long john silver sink, only some rope and a wooden block were stuck to his leg.
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>>78940350
>why did our long john silver sink, only some rope and a wooden block were stuck to his leg.
because those things are heavier than he is?
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>>78940350
> only some rope and a wooden block were stuck to his leg.
Didn't they show some canon at the beginning of the shot?
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>>78940704
Looked again; I missed that one.
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