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When did IASIP jump the shark?

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When did IASIP jump the shark?
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>>78886395
season 6
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>>78886395
When the fat little annoying man joined the cast.
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>>78886533
Mac getting fat really was the moment they jumped the shark, I agree wholeheartedly.
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>>78886395
It lost the energy and freshness after a few seasons, but its still mostly good with a some clunker episodes.
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Season 2.

Devito was a mistake.

It's been complete trash since season 4. I don't know how your retards still enjoy it.
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>>78886695
>show the first season to friends
>they don't pay attention, dislike it and call it boring
>they watch Nightman Cometh
>they love it and quote it all day
Who's wrong? Me or everyone else?
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>>78886533
This is actually true. Season 1 is legitimately the best season of the show. Seasons 2-7 are pretty great as well but it never reached the heights of The Gang Buys a Gun or Charlie Wants an Abortion.
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It's been a gradual decline since season 7.
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I actually like all of the seasons on It's Always Sunny and dont think the show has jumped the shark. The last few seasons have been a bit inconsistent though.
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>>78886395
Season 2
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>>78887319
This season has been absolutely horrible. The latest episode was barely even an episode, just a bunch of unrelated scenes strung together.
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>Every season but 1 is bad

You guys are reaching /v/ levels of contrarianism
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>>78886395

They haven't. The fags here have just come to gradually hate everything with greater intensity over the years due to their rampant porn addictions, which have been making them ever-more anhedonic in daily life, causing them to fap to increasingly extreme porn, making them more anhedonic, and so forth. I'm not even memeing or being ironic, you've literally all fucked up your brains so much that you can't enjoy anything at all except for sissy-hypno-trap porn anymore.
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>>78887351

The opening episode was pretty shitty, musicals aren't their thing at all, but the water park episode was on par with their best.
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The gang finds a dead guy is the best epusode.

Fite me
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>>78886579
yeah that's fair

there have been good episodes since
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>>78886395
I don't know the exact season, but they definitely survived waaay past season 2. I would think 6 or so, but I'm not sure.

Last season was definitely horrible though. And whatever season "spies like US" was a part of, was the worst.
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>>78886395
Could have been the therapy episode
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>Being Frank best episode
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S1-2: Early/Proto Sunny
S3-5: Peak Classic Sunny
S6-8: Transitional Sunny
S9-10: Flanderized/devolved Sunny begins
S11-12: Downfall of flanderized Sunny

This objectively correct.
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>>78887470
>And whatever season "spies like US" was a part of, was the worst.
Season 10. At least it had
>The Gang Group Dates
>Charlie Work
>The Gang Misses the Boat
The rest was meh, but 11 and (so far) 12 are worse imo.
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>>78887088
everyone else
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9 was the last season I rewatched. Have no desire to watch 10 and 11 again. I don't even really wanna keep watching 12. It's over.
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charlie work episode

and it blows my mind people think it was funny or good because muh continuous shot

fuck you
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Idk.

Season 11 stood out as pretty bad to me. I hate when they do callbacks to old jokes, it's family guy-tier and season 11 did that a lot.
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>>78887636
I'd put S2 in with peak classic Sunny, but I completely agree with the rest.
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>>78887636
Patrician taste.
Going from season 8 to 9 was jarring.
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>GOAT tier
S2, 3, 5, 7
>Great tier
S1, 4, 6
>Good tier
S8, 9
>Ok tier
S10
>Bad tier
S11, S12 (so far)
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>>78886395
>when they made mac an obvious faggot
>when they made dennis a total loser
>whenever charlie is a genius and not a worthless nigger janitor
>whenever charlie is the moral center
>whenever charlie is the group's superman
>whenever charlie fucks
charlie day has huge ego problems

hasn't been very funny for a while, but still better than most shit

they're basically just experimenting at this point

>>78887163
i disagree on s1, it's one of the BETTER seasons. devito i think really adds to the show

s7 is a fucking classic
>pretty woman
>jersey shore
>sweet dee gets audited
>storm of the century
>chardee macdennis
>the gang gets trapped
>hs reunion

>>78887314
agree

>>78887351
the gang turns black is one of their best episodes in my opinion

i read somewhere this season is supposed to have a "significant" ending, i'll be pissed if frank dies or some bullshit because of that tumor from being frank

i watch this show to laugh, not feel
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Ill be surprised if they dont go 20 seasons or until Devito croaks. They were pretty much at FX when the doors opened and there's been zero sign of cancellation.
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>/tv/ now almost unanimously hates always sunny and says it's been shit for years

Someone needs to study this board's herd instinct, it's like how starlings just know to all switch direction at once
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>>78887397
Counterpoint: /tv/ has always been contrarian to the point of retardation and will always find some excuse to shit on anything that is popular.
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>>78887432
No. The Gang Dances Their Asses Off is better.
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>>78887813
>7
>GOAT
>4
>Great

switch those and you're good
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>>78887686
Charlie Work wasnt even a continuous shot you retard. There are several clearly identifiable cuts. Kill yourself wannabe elitist.
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>>78886395
Childhood is when you think season 1 is the best. Adulthood is when you realize Danny Devito is the best part of the show.
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>>78887827
>the gang turns black is one of their best episodes in my opinion
That episode was terrible and absolutely set the tone for the rest of what we've seen so far.
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>>78887846
As >>78887391 pointed out contrarianism has been a staple of 4chan since the early days.
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>>78887827
the show felt off after S5, but the reunion episode was when I stopped watching new ones and entered into a constant re-watching of seasons 1-5. That was the one where they turned the characters into caricatures of themselves. Any previous subtlety was lost, it was like it was being written by reddit fans of the show.
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>>78887904

Oh I know, just uncanny how everyone flips simultaneously on these things
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>>78887872
Your parents must have raised you wrong.
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Post your Top 5s
>The gang hits the road
>The world series defense
>The D.E.N.N.I.S system
>Thundergun Express
>The gang dines out
The gang dines out is liable to change though, probably gonna have to do a complete rewatch soon
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the last good season was fat mac season
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>>78887791
this

>>78887813
9 was a shitty season imo, 10 was better but i agree with 10's placement

11 was shit, but being frank is one of their best episodes

12 is good tier so far imo
>gang turns black
classic, relevant, funny
>gang goes to a waterpark
i thought it was pretty funny
>old lady house
reasonably funny, i liked it
>wolf cola
still liked it

I'd put it up with 8, i think perceptions of it so far are colored by the generally shitty seasons of 9-10-11
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season 7 is my favorite , fat mac
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Country Mac is a severely underrated episode.
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do you think they killed him?
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Still the best show on television, fucking fight me
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>>78887863

it was framed as one, you dull fucking shit stain. and faggots like you jerked themselves off over it because muh network TV doing stuff

you pig fucking son of a bitch
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>>78888087
yes
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>>78887987
in no particular order
>storm of the century
>dennis system
>world series defense
>gang gets trapped
>gang goes jihad

>>78888055
mac day was a shitty episode, but country mac was hilarious

>>78887877
disagree, it's current and politically relevant. also i'm a huge quantum leap fan

>>78887919
i agree on the reunion episode

it's a funny episode, but it and its ramifications signal the absolute downfall of the show if exactly how you've describe the caricaturization of all of the characters
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>>78887686
anything charlie takes the lead in is unfunny because charlie day is too much of an ego-driven faggot to live in his character, who i fucking hate anyway

i've seen his interviews
>yes, sometimes i don't like to play someone who isn't intelligent
so you overcompensate by unfunnily making your illiterate character a genius and the only competent one of the whole gang?
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>>78887987
The Gang Gets Invincible
Mac Is A Serial Killer
The Gang Hits The Road
The Gang Makes Lethal Weapon 7
Franks Brother
>>78888120
I never even said I liked it you dunce. Kill yourself wannabe cocksucker.
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>>78887427
people say the same thing about suburbs though and that isn't true at all
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This season has had 1 decent episode. Season 6 is when the decline started
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>>78888234
Lethal Weapon 6*
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>making Dennis progressively more psychopathic
>making charlie smarter
>less subtle about Mac's sexuality
>the redditman cometh
>rum ham
>bringing in that bitch that's progressively turning into a cat
>the family feud episode
>abandoning the low budget look after actually getting a higher budget
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>>78888375
you're only listing good things right now
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Whenever Mac suddenly became gay
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>>78886395
Is doing ok. I like it and I don't get triggered because I am not a faggot neigher trumpfag or tumblr-tier.
Also, The mick is gettig better.
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>>78888234

one more time, im giving you one more fucking chance before you catch my hands motherfucker. i'm right and you're fucking wrong, you miserable piece of fucking shit. CUNT. fuck you
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>>78887987
>Sweet Dee's Dating A Retarded Person
>Dennis Reynolds: An Erotic Life
>The Nightman Cometh
>The Gang Gives Frank An Intervention
>The Gang Reignites The Rivalry

>>78888375
Nightman is a meme but it's also genuinely a hilarious episode unlike the other meme episodes (Charlie Work)
Also Dennis's progression into insane psychopath is actually funny unlike the rest of the gang
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>>78888510
Leave this thread you fake elitist troglodyte.
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>>78888375
Nightman Cometh is great because Normies all love it for the surface shit when its a play about Charlies mom prostituting him to his pedophile Uncle as a child.
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>>78887957
>season 1 is the best
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Its never stopped being good. Mid tier sunny is still better than most sitcoms. The seasons just have their obvious ups and downs. For some reason each new season has to have a specific number of gimmick episodes to meet a quota.

Of the new season, Waterpark episode and Old Lady House episode have been the best
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>>78888410
Agreed. It was great when Mac was banging the tranny or doing things that came across as gay but wasn't actually gay. He did gay or seemingly gay things but didn't want his friends to find out because they would inevitably rag on him for it. It was funny watching him jump through hoops to prove that he wasn't gay, but in his efforts to affirm him heterosexuality, he would just do more gay shit. A perfect example is project bad-ass: Mac tries way too hard to look cool in front of Dennis and Charlie, and at the end, it comes across as Mac trying to impress them and appeal to them in a sexual way.

Now Mac is just a closet gay. He's actually become the weakest character because of it, mainly because that is his whole character now. Every single episode is now Mac doing gay shit because he's gay but pretending he's not gay. There's nothing else to his character, he's no longer as versatile as he once was. It's a shame because he used to be pretty solid.
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>>78888739
I don't think season 1 is the best, but if you honestly think Danny 'dude, drugs and toeknives LMAO' Devito is the best part of the show, than you have shit taste.
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>>78887636
this.
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honestly even though the current season sucks compared to previous sunny, it's still better than all the other trash on tv.
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>The Gang Dines Out
>The Great Recession
>Dennis and Dee go on Wellfare
>Frank Reynolds Little Beauties
>Mac and Charlie: White Trash

My absolute top 5
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>>78886395
I only really liked the fat mac episodes. Other than that his character is the least funny
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>>78889210
Seasons 1 and 2 Mac >>> any other character in any other season
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>>78889007

The worst thing is he how he's now disgusted by women. They could have made him bi, because he showed interest in girls right up until season 8, but no they decided to go full homo
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>>78889007
I agree but honestly it was pretty funny when mac finally told them he might be gay on the cruise ship and they didnt even care. Their reaction was gold

But since then his character has lost a lot of his charm. Same with Charlie. They dont really do anything in the show anymore. Dennis is carrying the show now.

Glenn Howerton might be the real genius behind the show
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>>78889496
I said show too many times in this post
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>>78889516

You show did.
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>>78889474
>They could have made him bi
But he clearly is bisexual. He had sex with multiple women. If you had sex with multiple men you wouldn't go around calling yourself straight. Neither would anyone else.
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>>78889820
In realistic terms, you're right. However, this is a fictional show, and if you pay attention, Mac is now utterly disgusted by women. They basically flipped a switch on his character and made him fully gay, which doesn't happen to real people in the real world. It's one of the many pieces of evidence that indicate that the writing has mostly gone to shit.
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>>78889820
It was established in "The Gang Misses the Boat" that he can't get it up with women anymore when he gave that chick angel dust to pretend they were banging.
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>>78890179
Mac has been always a shit with women, and now he is a gay guy who hates women. I don't see how is bad writing, is part of Mac's shitty personality.
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The vase!
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>>78887813
yeah
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>>78887636
S3-7 Peak classic Sunny, 8 transitional
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The dialogue between characters is suffering above all else, kind of like what happened with Arrested Development on Netflix. Natural chemistry that fed into scenarios is what makes these sitcoms, but now the characters feel too separate and the scenarios take up so much of the episode through exposition alone.

Take the recent Old Lady House episode for example. It forced the characters to constantly move between locations without covering any new ground in the plot, the laugh track wasted a whole scene of back and forth explaining for an obvious joke they've made before. All the characters were crammed into one plot and it barely went anywhere with its short runtime. The episode would be so much better if the guys were in the house with the mothers, Dennis could have a real soundboard and piss off Mac and Charlie as they try to help their moms.

I know flanderization is the most obvious problem people point to with a long running sitcom, but it's really only one symptom of raising the stakes overall. The show wants to top itself every season, and the dialogue and premises are as exaggerated as the characters at this point.
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>>78886395
Hasn't really done anything to jump the shark yet but it's clear they started to really run out of ideas at around season 8 or 9 because it's been almost nothing but callbacks to fan favorite episodes since then.
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>>78887163
he's right you know
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>The Gang Solves the Gas Crisis
>The Gang gets Extreme: Home Makeover Edition
Are these the two best episodes of any television show?
YES
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>>78889007
>banging a tranny
>not actually gay

No.
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>>78888249
I think it is.
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>>78886395
10, I think. They still put out great episodes though, but just 1 or 2 per season.
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>>78887391
This isn't even a contrarian opinion. Season 1 is the best. It is subtle and slow, but that's the brilliance. They aren't ruining people's lives and blowing shit up, they are all just narcissistic shitty human beings who pretend they have cancer or use someone's death to get laid. There are plenty of great episodes after season 1, but season 1 is the only season that has absolutely no bad episodes.
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>>78887163
Charlie Wants an Abortion.
>the people against abortion throw eggs
>their literally aborting baby chickens
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>>78887432
Charlie Has Cancer is better. I'm actually just now realizing that 3/7 episodes of season 1 are Charlie episodes.
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>>78893587
>throw eggs
>literally aborting baby chickens
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I've watched every season, except the last three, at least 10 times. I'm also the tastemaker around here, so what I say goes.

Season 1-4 are the OBJECTIVELY best seasons. They quit writing their own episodes after that, only doing one or two per season, and it really shows.
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>People saying S2 because muh original gang without Devito

Never change, /tv/.
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>>78886695
I love frank. I agree his character is sometimes irrelevant, but he has given me a few good likes. Mac on the other hand is the most unfunny character on the show. Dee comes right after him.
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>>78894002
Nice try, but season 5 is objectively the best season
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>>78893556
>season 1 best

It's good but not the best
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Am I the only person who thinks that seasons 1-11 are great but something about season 12 just feels off? I've been watching the show since it premiered, I'm afraid the gang actually peaked.
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>>78895397
Neo-Mac might be the worst character (although that's still wrong because Dee's only purpose is for other characters to make fun of), but S1-7 Mac is amazing.
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>>78887163
you're a retard if you really believe season 1 is the best.
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>>78887904

True, but I think it's particularly bad on /tv/. It's to the point that the board is essentially useless as everyone just hates or pretends to hate literally everything.
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>>78886395
Season 8 started the downfall. There hasn't been a single funny episode since season 9, though.
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>>78886395
The episode The Gang Makes Lethal Weapon 6 was a good indicator for things to come. They always recycled their jokes, but that episode was the point of no return. It's been non-stop, and the self-awareness isn't helping.
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>>78887088
Nightman Cometh is a GOAT tier episode but if you dislike season 1 and love the rest you're a pleb of the highest order.
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For me the show took a nose dive after the Christmas special, so the dip in quality begins around season 7. Sure there are some really good episodes scattered from there on, but it will never have the consistency of seasons 1-6.
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