>Sauron got his hand chopped off with the ring on it by some

It took like a bazillion humans and Elves to get through all those Orcs to get to Sauron.

There aren't a bazillion humans and elves anymore, but there's still a bazillion Orcs.

>>78885618
>yeah dude let's totally let middle earth go to shit just because at some point we might be able to incapacitate Sauron again

Plus he'd never make the same mistake twice. He'd wear it on his cock next time.

>>78885618
Why did Sauron put his power in the ring?

Couldn't he just keep the power for himself?

>>78885684
He needed a really strong ring.

>>78885618
He should have worn an enchanted necklace and kept it under all that fucking armor.
He put it on what has to be the single most vulnerable part of himself.

>>78885649

I always thought this.

Sauron isn't indestructible, but he's a brilliant ruler and administratior.

>>78885684
He has a flair for theatrics.

He also knew that the best way to create a lasting peace among the races of Middle-Earth was to give them a common enemy to rally against. Everything he did, he did for the good of Middle-Earth. He died for their sins. He was a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.

>>78885769
He wore the ring out in the open because a) it would intimidate his enemies and b) he was proud and considered himself indestructible, so he wanted everyone to see that he doesn't give a fuck.

>>78885842
Sounds like a pretty big guy.

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>>78885842
God fucking damn it anon

>>78885618
Tell me about Sauron, why does he wear the ring?

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>>78885618
>If I pull that off, will you die?

So the ring is supposed to enhance the wearers inherent ability

When Hobbits wear it they turn invisible because of their stealthy abilities

What exactly did the Elves, Dwarves, and Men get from it?

>>78885618
why didn't he just swallow the ring to absorb it's power through his stomach? even if he shit it out every other day he could just clean it and re eat it. No one can cut his stomach off

Why didn't Sauron just call Morgoth or Eru to help him?

>>78886114
Men get more power, physical and psychological. It's easier for them to subjugate others.

Elves' magical abilities are colossally strengthened.

Don't fucking know about dwarves.

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>Isildur? I'm Istari

>>78886247
Morgoth is chilling in the void nigga.

>>78886306
>dwarves

straight cash homie

Can anyone who read the books please tell us what Sauron is actually described as? I've heard a lot of people say Jackson's adaptation of an eye on top of the tower was retarded but they're never able to explain what Sauron is like in the books. Is he just a spirit people talk about but don't actually see?

>>78886409
He takes multiple different forms so it's very hard to describe what Sauron looks like.

His original and preferred form is an immensely beautiful young man. Then he fucked shit up in Numenor and wasn't able to take his fair form anymore. At the time of LOTR he was metaphorically described as "the all-seeing eye", he wasn't literally an eye. Fact remains nobody knows what he looked like exactly at that point, your guess of him being a spirit is probably accurate.

He also turned into various monsters like a wolf and a bat in The Silmarillion iirc.

>>78886114
>the ring is supposed to enhance the wearers inherent ability
Then what's Tom Bombadil's inherent ability, since the ring had no effect on him?

>>78885618

That was a crown prince with a broken but still immensely powerful sword who through a literal act of God managed to barely cut the ring off of Sauron at the height of his hubris.


Ain't gonna be that easy again

>>78886572
being a motherfucking gangster

>>78886572
Tom Bombadil is overpowered to the point where he breaks the universe, and at the same time utterly useless. He's quite literally Tolkein's OC donut steel.

>>78885618
It took a massive army just to get anywhere near Sauron. The men and elves didn't have the numbers for that sort of army or the power/organization to put it together. But Sauron still had an army just as massive as his old one.

>>78886572
>Then what's Tom Bombadil's inherent ability

Being Morgoth

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>>78886644
>8886644

>>78886659
you mean the Witch King

>>78886114
but the old men king turned invisible as well

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>Friendly reminder

>make ring by pouring all your powers into it
>flail it around like a dork for everyone to see
>get killed by not using those """"enhanced"""" powers at all

Sauron is clinically retarded.

>>78886712
The Witch-King is the leader of the Nazgul, Bombadil obviously isn't one of the 9 otherwise he would have killed the hobbits on the spot

>>78885618
happened differently in the book

it took the combined might of gil galad and elendil to defeat sauron (arguably the strongest elf/man duo in the world at the time). isildur just took the ring after the three were all dead.

>>78886746
It's a really old meme.

>>78886729
>ywn see a beautifully made Children of Hurin movie with a magic talking iguana

>>78886724
you ready for this?

Since he lacked the will to destroy the ring and for losing his honour he was a coward.
What does cowards do best? They hide.
Thats why the ring turned him invisible.
this only applies to the movies

>>78886114
>What exactly did the Elves, Dwarves, and Men get from it?

Dwarves: Tons of tons of money, something about their rings made it easier to get gold/jewels (whether that means better look while mining or a literal alchemist-type thing is never said)

Men: Some type of limited version of Sauron's power to warp the minds of others, allowing them to gain power easily. Look at Angmar.

Elves: No clue. Some sort of magic, maybe?

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>>78885618

Who /Tulkas/ here?

>>78886729
That's retarded. He'd have to do nothing but eat 90000000000000 cows a day to sustain himself. Couldn't even move.

>>78886572
Pounding that sweet water nymph pussy.

>>78886833
>give The Silmarillion to little brother
>little brother becomes obsessed with Tulkas
>constantly quotes the scene where Tulkas "cast [Melkor] down upon his face"

Felt good man.

>>78886844
It's magic, anon. You might as well ask how Sauron's huge army sustains itself in Mordor, or how structures like Isengard, Barad-Dur, the Black Gate, and Minas Tirith are physically possible with medieval technology.

>>78886334

Needs to have the guards be the other wizards

>>78886825
headcanon

I doubt anyone but elves get any powers from the ring besides turning invisible

>>78886882
>Saruman is Masketta Man

>>78886534

Gollum described him as mising a finger so he's obviously humanoid.

>>78886862
>all of Middle-Earth in danger
>the Fellowship desperately needs your help
>you'd rather bang your sexy wife 24/7

Based Tommy B

>>78886844
>>78886880
It's also fake, so there's that.

>>78886900
That's retarded, why would the elves be different and how did we get the witch king of Angmar then?

Also Isildur becoming invisible from the ring was PJ's invention.

>>78886900
Well, the Nazgul are basically immortal, can sense the ring, and strike fear into everyone around them just by proximity....they're getting some powers from those rings.

And I can't remember the exact passage, but the rings helped the dwarves become extremely rich.

>>78885618
It's symbolic you dip.

The big deal is not that the sword chopped his finger, it's that a king had the courage to strike back when he was faced with something much, much bigger tham himself.

>>78886950
The 9 rings that man received did make them invisible but they hardly wore them, it just made them live longer like Bilbo and after having it for so long they were totally consumed by it and became a part of the spectral realm as wraiths and were later made servants of the one ring and were given the cloaks and amour that allows them to interact with the physical world

>>78886114
>When Hobbits wear it they turn invisible because of their stealthy abilities
Who the FUCK came up with this bullshit?

The ring turns hobbits (AND MEN) invisible because it pushes them into the unseen world.

>>78887169
The 9 kings of men are powerful even as consumed wraiths. At the height of their powers, they were op as fuck.

>>78886409
>Sauron should be thought of as very terrible. The form that he took was that of a man of more than human stature, but not gigantic.

>>78887156
Lol

>>78885618
Pride is a motherfucker. It's just like how everyone in MMO's never glamours their badass weapons to low level sticks. You want people to see that you got some shit that can fuck people up.

If you just barely got through an entire army, and you see Sauron over there looking like a badass, with the ability to fucking crush you before you even consider the fact he's rocking that 4 strength 4 stam God Ring and that end game armor. His intimidation factor is huge.

If only they knew that even if they killed him, he wouldn't go away. What the fuck do you do?

>>78886880
Mordor has massive human slave farms south of the mountain with extremely fertile land due to the volcanic soil.

>>78886880

Mordor was not all ashen wasteland

There were literally miles of farmland round the sea of Nurn with hot bikini slaves working it while being whipped by orcs

And Bara Dur is clearly stated to be somewhat magically created

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>>78886729
>friendly reminder

>>78885618
Wasn't the sword that actually cut his fingers off a special sword, and didn't it require someone from a specific blood line wielding that sword to do it? And wasn't it only because Sauron was basically playing with him when he swung in desperation, surprising him?

Blame Hackson. In the books it's a 5v1 fight on Sauron, with 3 top tier Elves and 2 top 2 tier Men. These are the only 5 guys in the ENTIRE army of Elves and Men who are willing to take on Sauron. 2 of them die (the Elven and Human Kings) but they take Sauron out. THEN Isildur cuts off the ring, as payment for his dead family members.

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>>78885839
He IS more or less indestructible. If you have read the books, you will surely be aware that Sauron didn't just reach his hand out like a fool and let Isildur swipe at it; it literally took almost the entire strength of the eldar and their lesser cousins, along with the men of Numenor (a race of blessed men whose lives spanned centuries), and the death of the leaders of these two races, Gil-Galad and Elendil to overcome Sauron. The effort irreversibly weakened the races involved, and the realisation of their loyal children's frailty after the war led the Valar to send the 5 wizards to Middle Earth in order to cement the defeat of Sauron and keep other evils in check.

Jackson was probably right in simplifying the introduction, but I always felt that Sauron lost his presence as an overwhelming monstrous power by falling in this clumsy way in the movie.

>>78887870
>>78887870
The last alliance of men and eleves was certainly an analogy of WW1 especially in this regard.

>>78888172

Tolkien hated allegory

>>78888172
Why would you say that?

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>>78886409
Tolkien drew him.

>>78885649
>to get to Sauron
Sauron came to them, though.

>>78887870
>the realisation of their loyal children's frailty after the war led the Valar to send the 5 wizards to Middle Earth

>1 of the 5 joins Sauron
>1 of the 5 is basically an incompetent
>2 of the 5 wander into Arabia and forget about Elves and Numenorians completely, basically join civilizations that ally with Sauron
>Mithrandir does 95% of the work and it is a comes down to multiple strokes of wild luck in the end that he succeeds

Wow how fucking generous of them kek. Weren't there like 20 Valar? They could have sent any one of them and it would have been done.

>>78886874
You turned him into autismo, man

>>78888470
>>2 of the 5 wander into Arabia and forget about Elves and Numenorians completely, basically join civilizations that ally with Sauron

This is all speculation, Tolkien never said what happened to them.

>>78888470
>>78888528
Tolkien's last writing on them says in fact they did help defeat Sauron, and that Sauron only gained partial control of the East thanks to them.

Also he said they actually arrived in the Second Age, not the Third like the others.

>>78886833
That's some cool art. I like how his proportions are just a little bit inhuman in a peculiar way, while still emulating, through the lighting and form, the glamor of an ancient greek deity.

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>>78888227

>>78887870
Sauron in hand-to-hand combat with Elendil and Gil-galad would have been cool though

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>>78888364
>Sauron was a nigger this entire time

>>78889348
Not really, Tolkien just took the idea of "black and white morality" very literally. Sauron's old form was a glowing white pretty elf twink, Gondor has "the white city" and "the white tree", the leader of the Wizards was "Saruman the White" (later Gandalf the White)....meanwhile, on the other side, you have the Black Gate, the Black Speech, Ancalagon the Black, the Black Riders, the Land of Shadow, etc. .
So when Sauron was good, he was white. When he became evil, he became black (or at the very least put on black armor).

>>78885653
>>yeah dude let's totally let middle earth go to shit just because at some point we might be able to incapacitate Sauron again
>Plus he'd never make the same mistake twice. He'd wear it on his cock next time.
Why would he want his cock cut off?

>>78885618
He only got it chopped off because he let down his guard and tried to take the King's ring. That's why he reached in close enough to him. Did you not even watch the movie?

>>78885879
No he wore the ring because that's how he gets his power. Did you not miss Frodo using the ring the entire series when he put it on his finger?

>>78886114
The ring has an effect even if you don't put it on. I imagine anyone who puts it on goes invisible, but it has different passive effects depending on the user.

>>78888172
French = Gondor
English = Rohan
Welsh = Hobbits
Swiss = Dwarves
Germans = Isengard
Turks = Mordor
USA = Valar

>>78889716
>Saruman used to be white, was good
>Sauron tainted him
>Suddenly starts wearing multicolor rainbow robes, destroying Rohan from within, and breeding black monsters to replace the humans

truly redpilled

>>78889897
So the germans are crossbreeds of Turks and Americans.

oy vey

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>>78889897
>USA = Valar

Yep