What was Junior's biggest mistake in Sopranos?

>>78882961

Eating carpet

Not having a wife and kids thus dying a lonely old man with nothing but a shitty old house

>>78882979
This is the only answer.

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>>78882979
theres literally nothing wrong with pleasing your woman

DOWN MEXICO WAY

pride

He knew Tony was the boss, yet when tony suspiciously offered him Boss, with only very minor strings attached he's not suspicious in the least.

>>78882961
Shooting tony

¶SOUTH OF THE BORDER¶

>>78883189
While this specific statement is true, you are not accounting for their personal attitude towards it within these old mobsters.

>>78882989
Pretty much this. He was the Boss but let the legacy pass on to his nephew like a cuck.

>not having a male heir

WHERE THE TUNA FISH PLAY

>>78882961
licking pussies
that's fucking gay

>>78882961
was that a real old man or someone in old makeup?

He suppressed his urge to fuck little girls and then he want crazy because of it.

>>78882989

this actually. a huge part of The Sopranos is the way people make their own beds and lie in them. it tried to do this without being moralistic about it and suggesting that evil will be punished or crime doesn't pay, which extends all the way to the series' ending. just that if you choose to lead a miserable, selfish life like junior, you'll probably die alone, if you chain smoke you'll end up like johnny sack, if you choose to stay in the mafia despite sensing how deeply wrong something in your life is, you'll end up like tony

>>78882961

listen to MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

What's that smell? Did you guys go to a sushi bar?

Getting alzheimers

>>78883689
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>78883689

He was faking it

>>78883506
>if you choose to stay in the mafia despite sensing how deeply wrong something in your life is, you'll end up like tony
You don't choose to stay in the mafia. A major side plot or two revolves around characters wishing to leave the mafia. Remember the fat faggot and how most of the crew wanted Tony to hunt him down and kill him, despite Tony wanting to show mercy and just leave him be? Do you remember when Chrissy became a made man? That whole blood ceremony shit? The only way to leave the mafia after you take that oath is in a coffin. Or more likely just disappearing.

>>78884071
...And the plot where guy literally kills himself because he isn't allowed to leave.

>>78884009
Please don't tell me you're that stupid

>>78884071
Some guys like uncle pat were able to retire

>>78884839
damn what a great show

>>78882961
Not having children or a wife.

>>78885251
wasnt a made man

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>>78883444
What are you gonna do? I don't make the rules.

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you know Quasimodo predicted all of this

>>78882961
>What was Junior's biggest mistake in Sopranos?

He shoulda got peppers and eggs.

>>78885644
NOSTRAHDAHMUS

>>78885489
Yes he was, what make you say that?

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>>78885690
gaba gaba gool

>>78883408
true anon, when considering this i realized that it probably played a role in Tony taking over. Imagine losing your power in the mafia because everyone knows you eat pussy

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Did you feel bad for him or not?

>>78886007
No.

Tony tried to protect him. Even Richie, of all people, gave him a warning.

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>>78885992
>Imagine losing your power in the mafia because everyone knows you eat pussy

>>78886007
no, Tony gave him every chance

>>78886007
No, he was given plenty of warnings.

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>>78884839

Bloody onion rings why?

The Members Only jacket guy in the final episode was clearly a relative of Eugene Pontecorvo. He obviously kills Tony Soprano in the diner in order to avenge Pontecorvo's suicide.

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>>78886261
Fuck that

>>78886261
that's what we in the biz call a stretch anon

>>78884071
All you have to do to leave the mafia is leave New Jersey/NYC but they're all a bunch of retarded wops who are too dumb to consider moving to another part of the country.

>>78886333
i call ur mums pussy streched after what i did last night

>>78886428
I just can't see it working out for him if he was mob connected or not. The only explanation that makes logical sense is that he's sent by one of the New York crews.

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>>78886333

It makes perfect sense. Soprano is so worried about being killed by real gangsters from NY, or traitors from his own ranks, but a non-connected relative of one of his lower minions? He never saw that coming.

>>78886007
He deserved it for trying to kill the Connors, the metal bastard

>>78886428
OHHHH, the mouth on this prick!

>>78887004
He's got a lotta fuckin balls that one

>>78882961
>What was Junior's biggest mistake in Sopranos?

Relying on niggers to whack Tony.

>>78882979
fpbp

>>78887069
this

>>78886007
>feeling sorry for a degenerate gambler

No. Gambling is literally worse than being a drug addict.

>>78886261
>reddit.com

>>78887069
I still don't understand why he would think this was a good idea. I get that he obviously wouldn't send out his own men to do it but why not some other white guys? he would have been even less trusting of blacks than Tony if anything.

>>78887210
to put distance between them and deflect attention away from the family

>>78887185
>retard.com

Nope. 4chan oldfag, you moron.

>>78882989
The way he was, he would have been a terrible husband and even worse father. It's a damn good thing there were no Junior Jrs.

>>78887272
But Tony figured it out right away

>>78887281
Then why are you using literal reddit-tier le theories that don't make sense?

>>78887324
Not just attention from the family, but from the feds too.

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she really isnt very good at her job

>>78887401
it's all bullshit anyway

>>78887382
Makes sense, thanks anon

>>78887401
That was no secret. Who ever heard of going to an Italian therapist?

>>78887401
well it was supposed to show that Tony would only take advice from someone in her position in such a way that it would make him a better criminal. I don't think we can really judge since we didn't really see how she treated other patients

>>78887401
Which is actually a pretty realistic depiction.

>>78887534
im only at season 4 and 2 of her other patients have killed themselves

>pretends to have dementia
>gets dementia

>>78884071
Vito successfully ran away from the mafia despite being wanted dead and even got an idyllic homo boyfriend and everything

his only failure was the inability to do more than two hours worth of honest labor without subsequently committing several felonies and going back to get killed

>>78885489
old mob guys can retire. The point is that it's rare because most of them either end up in jail or killed long before that.

>>78887599
Depends on how many people she treats, some suicidal people can't be helped because they don't accept the advice theyre given in therapy. Plus one of those was because Tony made her have to leave town and the patient couldn't contact her when she needed her/

>>78887401
her voice is so fucking sexy

>>78887668

Because every reason someone gives you not to kill yourself is bullshit. The only legitimate reasons you can have for not killing yourself come from yourself.

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anybody wanna watch goodfellas? just started..we can do sopranos, casino, etc dealers choice niggers

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>>78882961
I thought that episode where he teaches a little girl how to use a tampon was fairly inappropriate social behavior

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>>78887354

I guess the fact that I've been telling numbskulls like you this for nearly a decade now only demonstrates how clueless the average Sopranos/tv fan is.

Very telling that the guy, who never uttered a word, was actually listed in the credits as "Man in Member's Only Jacket".

Actor's names don't usually appear in the credits, unless they either have a speaking role, or their appearance carries with it some kind of special significance.

Livia reminds me of my grandma

>>78887401
>>78887579
"therapy" is a scam. do you seriously think paying $200/hr to TALK can treat mental illness? it's a racket. ask grandma soprano.

CHRISTOPHA's line about wanting to make The Grinch with Jim Carrey is probably the single most dated line in the show

>>78882961

Getting old =/

>>78886007

I'd always like to think that there should have been a subplot after season 2 when Tony travels to Vegas and finds him.

>>78887706
He just happened to be there. The MO jacket he's wearing and frog-tier face are visual devices that tell us he's either connected or made. He knows about Tony, hence the interest.

Storytelling-wise, why is he at Holsten's during the last scene of the show? Well, for the same reason kangz, truck drivers, boy scouts, young couple, regular Joes etc. are at Holsten's: Made in America, they represent Tony's life, both easy and uneasy. The 3 o'clock Godfather meme is just that - a meme. Because if MO guy wanted to ice Tone, he'd do that right away, without leaving his fingerprints all over the coffee mug and dozens of eye-witnesses.

DON'T STOP!

>>78884839
... the guy who got made at the same time as Christopher, and who always wore a Members Only jacket

I've got one gripe about the show. Rewatching some clips i noticed that some of the background music in scenes at the bing are Metallica songs that were never popular enough to be played at a strip club. I mean really when are you ever going to hear their cover of the small hours in a club. Really makes you think

>>78887185
Reddit doesn't give a flying fuck about The Sopranos. They're too busy claiming The Wire is the best show ever made.

>>78888062
maybe metallica was on warner bros and sopranos was produced by warner bros so they got the license at cost for lesser-value tracks?

>>78888062
Are strip clubs in America only allowed to play the most popular songs of popular bands?

>>78888018
Why would he do that?

>>78888128
Metallica was on Elektra at the time, i just looked it up and Elektra was owned by warner music group. Makes sense

He never had the makings of a varsity athlete

>>78888178
I guess not but it stood out to me because they were really obscure songs with the exception of fuel

>>78888062
I think one of the writers of sopranos was a metalhead, in earlier seasons AJ has posters of black metal bands in his room.

>>78888255
Apparently the company the particular band was signed to sent a bunch of their merch to different studios and it just happened to get used

>>78888018
its mentioned later he ended up in an institution

Livia is the most authentically written character in the show, as far as I'm concerned.

>I hope one day you have children of your own and they treat you like this.

That line is something my mother used to tell my brother and I, verbatim, when we were getting up to some shit as kids. Even her tone and delivery were identical.

The FACT is you can't prove Tony's dead because we never saw it on screen. You're just fan-fictioning instead of sticking to the facts.

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>>78888426
>oh i wish the lord would take me

>>78888498
>we never saw it on screen

yes we did, the black screen IS death

The first time I saw him shoot Tony it scared the shit out of me.

>>78888498
You have to be extremely pleb to think this.

Favorite schadenfreude moment of the show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGnfgTqlzo

>>78888721
how is that schadenfreude? The Dr Melfi rape scene was since I kind of got a weird boner from it

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>>78887705
Then there was that time he just started taking his clothes off in public. He really started deteriorating later on.

>>78888957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUdZhMsSZcA
since you brought up curb this needs to be posted

>>78889114
what, how the fuck do i not remember this scene. was it cut on the dvds?

>>78888541
No we did not and no it literally is not.

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>>78888046

So where are the names of the "kangz, truck drivers, boy scouts, young couple, regular Joes etc." in the final credits? Hmmm?

Why is it so hard for you to accept the obvious when it is staring you right in the face?

I'll lay you money that MOJ guy's even wearing the very same Members Only jacket out of wardrobe that Pontecorvo wore, and it was completely intentional.

I'm telling you that the Man in the Members Only Jacket is not only a close relative of Eugene Pontecorvo, but that it's Eugene's very own jacket that he's wearing as a tribute to Eugene, and that as smart as Soprano thinks he is, and that all the while Soprano was worried about being killed by Phil's crew, he never saw that one coming.

You can rationalize all you want, and shill your personal perception of the wonderful magic of the mob all you want, but most average people, including the waiter who picked up his coffee mug, wouldn't dare get involved in any investigation of a mob hit.

Also, you have no idea where this relative came from to do the hit. If he was from way out of town, and then left NJ immediately after, there's little chance he'd even be suspected, much less identified.

The mobsters (or even the cops) whom you seem to think are so brilliant would never suspect that it was anything other than a "mob" hit, so Pontecorvo's relative gets away clean... Especially if he never told anyone he was going to do it, and never told anyone that he did.

It's called poetic justice.

Why are you so dumb?

>>78889436
Stick to csi kiddo, it's explicitly clear it ends with him dying and why it was portrayed that way.

>>78889683
funny that in the past few years even chase has been baffled by the amount of idiots who still think he lived and dropped the sublety when asked about the ending in inteviews

>>78889587
Part of the point of the show is that the Soprano family has declined to the point of near irrelevance. I doubt they would be that afraid. Plus who's left to go after anyone who would testify? Paulie? doubtful he would be capable of doing anything about it. Maybe he wouldn't even want revenge.

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>>78890101

I don't think you understand "the point of the show" at all.

Go re-watch, "Members Only", "Soprano Home Movies", "The Blue Comet", and "Made in America" from season 6. As Chase said before... "It's all there."

Some of you idiots are just too blind, too stupid, or too naive, to see it.

>>78890847
as opposed to you, who have full knowledge of all the intricacies of the series , right?

>>78891029
nigga he's dead, just accept it

>>78891044
I never said he wasn't dead He's very clearly dead and the episodes you pointed out support that, i just don't believe that the person you say did it is responsible.

>>78889714
You're flat out lying. Chase will never reveal Tony's fate, and never has, he's just speaking various vague statements that can mean a lot of things, but you crembils keep forming far-fetched shit that fits your reddit narrative.

>>78889587
>It's called poetic justice.

Actually, it's called fan-fiction. Keep trying harder faggot.

>le lost bro of Gene out of nowhere xD :)

kys and save humanity

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>>78891201

I suppose you think it was Russian hackers.

>>78891368

Actually it's called, "Not being a simple-minded idiot who has to have everything spoon-fed to them."

>>78882961
desu >>78882979 this is true but really only because everyone found out about it.

>>78892236
I think it was someone from New York, not a deus ex machina relative never before mentioned

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>>78892417
>deus ex machina relative

>>78892550
So a relative of a guy who worked for Tony found him dining at a restaurant and killed him for his brother's suicide in front of his whole family with multiple witnesses,despite the fact that there was no mention of such a person at any point in the series? that's a huge ass pull and would be a complete cop out of an ending

>>78888062
From memory, Metallica's "King Nothing" was played twice, both times when Tony was going through stressful shit. The lyrics "where's your crown, King Nothing?" seemed to fit in well with the events that were going on

>>78885992
I guess that's why they aren't any Asian in the mafia

>>78892701
>never heard of stalking

>>78892807
Consider this: how would the hypothetical brother know enough to blame Tony for Eugene's suicide? He was an FBI informant but it's highly unlikely that he would run his mouth to family about Soprano family matters like him not being allowed to retire unless he was an idiot. If he did tell him about that kind of thing then he would probably spill his guts about the FBI thing as well, in which case the brother would Know Tony isn't solely to blame for his death and would have less reason to kill him. Also, why wouldn't he also take into account the family struggles that played a huge part in it? it doesn't add up

>>78892985
>doesn't know about Eugene's wife, or what she may have said, and to whom

>>78893059
She probably values her life more than to spill secrets to family members

>>78893271
>knows nothing about women
>poster sounds stupid enough to be a bernout

>>78882961

He should have let his nephew become a varsity athlete.

>>78893333
>when you spend so much time on /pol/ you literally can't keep it out of discussions with no relevance to politics.

>>78893376

Not an argument.

>>78893350

He never had the makings of a competent uncle.

>>78893468
i hope some commie flies a plane into molyneuxs house and wipes you out as you suck his cock

>>78884071
this>>78886406>>78887647
leaving the mafia is extremely easy as long as you keep quiet. The reason why they don't leave is because of stupidity, attachment to the culture they grew up in and the general greed for what the lifestyle gives (this is why Tony never quits it, and why Carmella stays married to him, the money is too good)

>>78893516
>loser who can't get over losing

>>78893609
Yeah i lost, i lost brain cells reading all the bullshit you wrote

>>78893675

TRY THE WINE....

>>78893704
>maybe I should have said, "WHINE"

kek

>>78893742
maybe you should have said "i'm sorry for wasting your time"

how often do you think Adriana cucked Christopher?

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>>78882961
He didn't get his ice cream.

>>78893806
I think she was actually loyal to him

>>78893780

Why? My name's not Obama.

>>78893957
I bet you're the type of person that watches this show because you agree with the Soprano families views on everything

>>78894004

No refunds.

>>78888512
She's like jurassic park, CGI still looks good today.

>>78889587
Why do you think calling people dumb makes your crackpot theories without any substance more valid in any way? Keep arguing like an angry child and people will continue not taking you seriously.

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>>78888512
>>78894048

Ever see her with Rod Steiger in that 1953 "Philco Television Playhouse" production of, "Marty"?

I think it would realy strike a chord with all the lonely hearts on 4chan.

https://archive.org/details/PhilcoPlayhouseMarty1953

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>>78894086

Crie moar.

YOU WERE SUCKING HIS COCK

EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT

EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT