Wow really makes you think.

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>Did you know?

In Godfather, the horse head that Jack Woltz finds in his bed when he wakes up is the head of his favorite horse that we see earlier in the film.

Now that's what I call filmmaking.

>poor czechs we dindu nuffins

LOL yeah except most foreign volunteers within the axis forces during WW2 came from eastern europe

Also the czechs got a great deal of autonomy as a Reich protectorate and only really started sperging out and committing massacres against the sudeten germans in 1945 when the pan-slavist Ehrenburg-esque propaganda riled them up

Of course SPielberg doesn't mention any of this though

>>78878976
Makes me think they should have been speaking English to the Americans rather than some gibberish they call a language.

>>78879146
It's a two hour flick, not a documentary

>>78878976
This is a load of horseshit though

Over 1 million slavs and eastern europeans volunteered to fight for the Nazis in the Russian Liberation Army in order to fight the Soviets which they perceived as the lesser of two evils. Many of these people were transferred to fight in the western front.

>>78879146
He didn't even go into a rudimentary analysis of the underlying factors that caused WW1 and eventually WW2, how can anyone say this movie was honest?

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>>78878976
Really made sink in for a moment.

>>78878976
>THAT is filmmaking

I want to punch whatever faggot redditor who wrote this in the throat

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>>78879199
>flick
fuck you nigger

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Did you know the name Titanic was actually a ship that sank after hitting an iceberg. This ship appears throughout the film!

THAT is filmmaking.

>mfw nazis trying to create polish ss battalions
>not a single volunteer

>mfw nazis trying to create police force in poland
>more than half of them belonged to the resistance

>mfw berlin 1945
>modern germans have more polish than german blood thanks to the BSC (big slav cock)

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>>78879429
fugg

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>>78879307
Here you go, fixed it for you.

>>78879470
>fixed it for you
>fixed that for you.png

What did he mean by this?

>>78879377
Did you know the Titanic had already been damaged swapped out for a different ship, the ship that sank was not actually the Titanic. All about insurance.

>>78879146
Are you fucking autistic? (Answer is yes)

>>78879470
You made a thing! :D

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>>78879429

>>78878976
>fighting for the Nazis

They deserved to die, wether they were forced or not. They still had a choice: the choice of dying instead of taking part in this evil.

inb4
>you would have done the same
Probably, and I still would have thought that I deserve death for doing so.

>>78878976

kino

>Shooting surrendering troops
The good guys everybody

>>78880008
>not killing as many Nazis as possible
this guy doesn't get it

>>78880452
what are you some little antifa fag?

>>78880501
I am an American.
I'm seeing lots of hate towards anti-fas, and I honestly don't get the reason behind this hate.
Is it because they're all leftists?
They are, but they are not promoting it when bashing fascists. They identify as anti-fascists, and wether you like it or not that belief is absolutely compatible with our tradition, history and culture.
If you're American you should oppose Fascism and Nazism, if you don't want to do so then you truly don't love Freedom.

>>78880806
I'm not american, I'm from an ex-fascist country and just want to let you know you guys are considered turbocucks around here

>>78880806
Actually freedom of speech is the core american value, nothing in our constitution or laws has anything to do with bashing fascism or nazism.

and sucker punching racists and flipping trash cans over isnt really that cool either. they arent even killing people. leftists are pussies

>>78880850
>said the guy who lost the war and know closely follow whatever indication we give to your leaders

But yeah, we're the cucks, right?
Given the importance you guys give to violence and ''might is right'', it is funny how you can't see how we're the superior ones in this relationship, even when evaluating ourselves with your own criteria.

>>78878976
Funny, i always tought they said they washed themselves for supper.

>>78880939
I meant you as people are very cuckish

>forced

>>78879429
Berlin was always a source of degeneracy and basically everything bad with the country, even before the world wars and desperately asks to get bombed and the left with its earth salted.

>>78881005
they were only shooting Allied troops ironically

>>78880915
Of course it hasn't been codified through law, yet history proves my point in this case.
Regardless, there is much literature on the uselessness of debating with Nazis, even Hitler held this same opinion. It's not a ideology based on reason, and it is completely free from any sort of debate, since all of its premises are purely arbitrary.
I accept the fact that punching fascists is illegal, yet it is still an inherently american action and I will partake in it everytime I can.

>and sucker punching racists
That actually worked, considering that Spencer refused to attend the Women's March out of fear. Wether you supported the march or not, you still can't deny that it worked.
>flipping trash cans
This is why I haven't identified with antifas. I approve their repulsion for fascism, but there is a whole bucket of leftist ideology directly linked to the movement wich I don't approve.

>>78880939
Your military is overwhelming conservative. I'd love to see you leftists fight anyone.

>>78881036
I disagree with your post and want to make that known on the internet.

>>78881091
man the liberal fantasy of punching fascists is kind of pathetic. we all know you have never been in a fight in your life. and explain to me how its an 'inherent american' action to assault people you disagree with, when thats in violation of the First amendment. nazis havent even been around for a hundred years you fuckin stupid millenial

>>78880452
>All soldiers in the Axis side were Nazies
>All soldiers under the German Reich were Nazies
Nice meme

>>78881091
>punching fascists
>inherently american
American politics are thoroughly right-wing. The democrats are a right wing party, the republicans are a far-right party. Sanders, who is a social-democrat (ie. the political option that is dominant in most of Europe since WWII) has been laughed out in the US as being a hippy loon.

>>78879283
Explaining that USA was largely responsible for WW2 (and the fact that this was all an Anglo Jew plot to destroy the French Empire) was never going to be pointed out by a Anglo Jew.

>>78881129
Have you read anything I've written? I'm not a leftist.
Regardless, there is nothing in bashing fascists that goes against conservative ideology.

>>78881146
>we all know you have never been in a fight in your life.
I've served in the Navy for 8 years of my life. Unless said nazi is an actual UFC fighter I will be able to punch him and at least come out of it as even.

>action to assault people you disagree with
You're just an intellectual coward. You're not able to pick any exception to this rule, not even for nazism. This doesn't show tolerance, this just show stupidity and the inability to respond to a ideology wich can be dealt only with violence.
The history of every fascist country proves my point. If you think that you can debate with mister Spencer, you're just delusional. The only reason for wich we shouldn't shot him yet is because he doesn't have enough followers to be percieved as a threat.

Well, both my grandpas weren't as coward as you and actually went down to Europe to gun some of those freedom-haters down.

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>>78881091
How can you punch fascists? Do you have a lot nazis hiding in your basement? Or do you consider your mom a fascist when she buys you store brand tendies instead of name brand?

>>78881386
>You're just an intellectual coward. You're not able to pick any exception to this rule, not even for nazism

Free speech is all speech, not just speech you like.

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>it's a dumb americunt politics thread

>>78881386
How are you this stupid?
>I've served in the Navy for 8 years of my life.
Oh, carry on then

>>78881386
>navy
Lmao. Literally the faggots of the sea. Great work, sailor.

>>78881454

Free speech is a limitation to government, not to the individual. It's not the job of our police to stop fascism, that could give them a precedent that could be exploited.
Yet, I have the right to punch nazis. I may end up in jail, but I possess this right as a human being, and there are strong ethical reasons for applying it.
You may paint me as naive, but Nazism is not just ideology. It is a very precise ideology with very precise consequences based on very precise premises. When you look into all of this factors you will quickly realize that there is no legal way to deal with the thread of fascism.

>>78881493
>>78881512
Your true colors are showing guys.
Are you sure that you're not the leftists here?

It's sad, but even in the good guys armies are bullies. Geneva agreements were signed to avoid stuff like this

>>78878976
dude we had to kill all those allies trying to stop the Nazis we didn't have a choice lmao

>>78879377
>>78879062
Hola Clickhole

>>78881624
>call out a literal faggot for saying stupid shit makes me a leftist
I don't think so hot stuff

>>78880452
>Everyone who is my enemy is a nazi
You're doing this thing called generalization, again, not every soldier who was under the German Reich flag was a nazi

>>78881703
Saying that Richard Spencer is not a Nazi is intellectually dishonest.

>>78881634
And USA, Russia, UK, Japan and Germany also signed agreements not to use Flamethrowers in war, but still did, under the guise of "terrain clearance and minefield clearance". Didn't stop them torching each other.

100+ countries have also signed agreements not to produce, distribute, store, use or sell clusterbombs. The USA still does because "we make them smart lol" but then go "Yeah everybody in NATO should nerf their grenade killing range because muh civilians".

Agreements are for peace time, mate. When push comes to shove, nothing is off limits, as the winner writes the history and ends up justifying it.

>>78880008
Yeah, that was the point, they weren't trying to represent anyone as the good guys.

>>78881703
so what, they're still the enemy

>>78881741
Is he a National Socialist or does he just agree with some of their ideology?

I mean, thinking eugenics is a good thing doesn't make me a Nazi. If it does, the USSR and American governments are Nazi's, as they believed it was a thing.

Then again, for all intents and purposes, the USA Government believes that psychic powers are real, just like the Germans did. So fuck knows.

>>78881624
Go suck off your boyfriend while the marines and army make themselves useful.

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>>78878976
Did you know Jared Leto lived as the Joker for an entire year and made everyone on the set of Suicide Squad address him as "Mr J" or "Mr Joker"?

THAT is acting

>>78881772
You don't shoot surrendered enemies down, anon. If not for the Geneva agreements, for proving we're better than them first you give them a weapon and then you shoot them down

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>>78881036
>1945 Germany wasn't Nazi enough

>>78881750
>Mom, they started!
The point every American reaches after a deconstruction on the America is the good guy argument.

Muh validation!

>>78881807
There is nothing in his line of thinking that goes against the Nazi ideology, and he extensively uses ideas directly taken from Nazi and KKK propaganda.
It may sound new to people in their teenagehood and first adulthood on /pol/, but the terms, concepts and philosophical ideas the alt-right is using are extremely old and predictable.
If nothing you believes in goes against Nazism and your entire lexicon is based on Nazi propagando you're either a nazi or a surrogate of nazism.

I fucking hate Americans.

>>78881907
t. American

>>78881741
what kind of goal post moving is this? I'm completely lost

>>78880850
kek
and your country isn't important enough to be named?
right, because it's irrelevant

>>78881911
nice dubs yuropoor

>>78881955
As a glorious American, I'd like to congratulate you on your dubs.
Checked.

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>>78881907
Are you mad that your semen rations are late again? We're making them as fast as possible.

>>78881988
holy shit it keeps happening

>>78882035
You ruined it yuropoor.

>>78881877
What part of that is 'they started it'? I just said that in times of war, countries will willingly drop the shit that they, in public, deemed "immoral". Because, as I said, the winners decide if it was immoral or not.

Gunning down soldiers like this is a sad thing to happen, but some people were dicks. In terms of the film, it's to establish the fact that Americans were capable of doing bad things and to establish the two characters as dubious moral code.

Again, laws and writing and shit mean nout in such a situation. Americans tortured fuck loads of Iraqi PoW's in the War on Terror. That's not a 'started' thing. That was a thing that happened and a thing people do.

The best you can do is not let the public find out. In the case of WW2, it was very possible that a failed invasion of Western Europe would spell the end of any chance of France being free, if not extending the length of the war in Europe by a decade. You go all out or you risk more shit.

The British heavily bombed German cities, killing civilians. While in turn the Americans bomb factories. Many argue the Brits should have concentrated on repeated bombing follow ups on American targets to end the war. Ball Bearing factories especially. Only once was a city raid ever close to achieving moral collapse, but the Allies pussied out.

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>>78881903
>But anon, they can't possibly be Nazis because they're so respectful and peaceful unlike those NASTY liberals who want nothing but violence, all the altright wants is to kill all minorities.

>Mfw /pol/tards unironically advocate the extermination of other races but are having a collective freakout because one of them got punched

>>78881912
My bad, I ignored the last part of the post (I'm arguing with a Spencer defender too).
>not every soldier who was under the German Reich flag was a nazi

Much literature have been written on this topic. The Banality of Evil by Hannah Arendt is a cornerstone of this logic.
Nazism didn't need fanatism from literally every citizen to work, but it still needed his support in a way or another. Being neutral towards nazism, or working for them regardless of your real intentions should not be excused in this particular case.

As Sartre brilliantly explained in Being and Nothingness we are always free, no matter how much the outside world is trying to condition us. Even when a rifle is pointed at our head we still have the freedom to rebel and accept death instead of taking part in this evil.
If you don't see the evil in Nazism you have some sereious reading to do.

Also I hope that with
>ot every soldier who was under the German Reich flag was a nazi
you weren't quoting the ''clean wermacth'' propaganda.

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>>78879470
fixed

>>78882099
So, NotAllMuslims = Legitimate thing to say
NotAllAltRight = Not a legitimate thing to say

Not all 'altright' (a shitty and purposely nebulous term to cover everybody from centre to extreme-right) want that. Some people find punching a guy, twice, with a sucker punch while he's being interviewed a bad thing.

Assault isn't justifiable regardless of who it is. Be it a 'liberal' or 'sjw' or 'altright'.

>>78878976
But the Czechs were one of the few groups that were never armed but the Germans, either forced or volunteers. Hitler expressly forbid this to prevent a repeat of the "Czech Legion" of WWI.

>>78881750
>And USA, Russia, UK, Japan and Germany also signed agreements not to use Flamethrowers in war
No they didn't.

>100+ countries have also signed agreements not to produce, distribute, store, use or sell clusterbombs. The USA still does
Because the USA has not signed that agreement.

>>78882189
>Assault isn't justifiable regardless of who it is. Be it a 'liberal' or 'sjw' or 'altright'.

Too bad that that's literally the only way to deal with nazis. What's your plan? Are you going to debate to a great extent with all the guys who are organizing politically in a crypto-nazist movement? Will you use reason™ and logic™ to change their mind?
Give me a break and stop being so naive. There is no neutrality when it comes to nazism. You're either with them or against them. Thinking otherwise is childish and just reveal historical ignorance on your part.

>>78879146
schoolkids were executed because they made a stupid joke about germans and people were killed on the spot just because they looked at the soldiers wrong

fucking kill you are self you fucking bellend

>>78882189
>Generalizing a group based on place of birth is okay, but don't dare assume someone who advocates the extermination of other races advocates the extermination of other races

>>78882189
The guy that was punched was an actual Nazi who openly advocates for the extermination of all black people because humanity doesn't need them apparently. Seems pretty fair that he was punched twice.

>>78882206
1. Protocol III of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. This clause prohibits the use of incendiary weapons on people. You can, however, use them to clear foliage.

2. Read the rest of my sentence next-time, champ. My point was that USA finds the idea of banning the use of clusterbombs stupid because they can make them 'smart' and that means they're not a risk to civilians, but then goes on to say that NATO members should reduce the killing radius of their hand grenades because "they are a risk to civilians".

The USA finding one a stupid thing to ban (clusterbombs) and the other one a rightful thing to reduce the effectiveness of (grenades) shows how the idea of morality depends on who is calling for something to be banned or not be banned.

>>78882284
I never said it was OK, who are you quoting?

>>78882312
>>78882262
So, the extermination of people who I disagree with based on their political beliefs is the way forward? Okay.

>>78882312
>openly advocates for the extermination of all black people
Dumb faggot believes everything he sees on twitter

>>78882071
Kek

>>78882262
>>78882284
>>78882312
>it's OK to assault and kill people who I disagree with as they have views that I disagree with
>VIOLENCE BREEDS VIOLENCE... UNLESS IT'S ME DOING THE VIOLENCE BACKED UP BY THE MAJORITY AND WE'RE THE STRONGER ONE AND I'LL ONLY BE PRAISED FOR BEING SO BRAVE.
>#LoveTrumpsHate

LOOOOK I WASHED FOR SUPPER!

>>78879146
What about when they killed Heydrich and got reprisals?

>>78882381
>So, the extermination of people who I disagree with based on their political beliefs is the way forward? Okay.

Yeah, because the disagreement I have with Nazism is a minor one. Extermination of ''lesser races'' are a 50/50 problem, right?
Are you really unable to see a clear difference between Nazism and, let's say, conservative republics? Do you think that the leap between punching a Nazi in the face and punching a democrat in the face is so short?

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>mfw I'm playing both sides of this argument
>mfw I'm arguing with myself to get other people to argue with me

I operate on a completely different level

>>78879257
>Over 1 million slavs and eastern europeans volunteered to fight for the Nazis

oy vey goyim! only the hollywood kike version of history is true!

>>78879505
Source?

>>78882488
I want to do it, too, but then the mods would see my faggotry and this makes me uneasy for some reason 2bh

>>78882439
It's okay to assault people that advocate for the extermination/genocide of an entire race. These people choose to be Nazis, you can't choose your race.

>>78882471
Not at all. I don't think the solution to your Nazi problem is to physically assault or kill them because you disagree with them. After all, they disagree with blacks being a positive side of the human race and wish them all dead, right?

So one is OK because you're assuming you have moral superiority; which is, it's OK to kill all Nazi's because they want to kill all black people? Even though Nazi's NEVER wanted to kill all black people and had black soldiers in their armies?

Utterly baffling. I couldn't give a toss about Nazi's, they are a non-threat to the stability of the world. What is a threat to this world is people thinking they have objective moral superiority to inflict things on people because those people wish to inflict the very same things on other people.

Baffling. Utterly baffling. We're done here. I'm starting to think you're just shitposting. Nobody can have views like this and not be batshit insane. That includes Nazi's.

>>78882488
wew la >>78830239

>>78882601
That's me, la. I am the Puppet Master!

>>78882381
"We should kill all blacks and jews!" Is not a political belief.

>>78882669

What is it then?

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>"Your race is inferior you're all retarded and dragging society down I'd kill you all if I could
>Get punched in the face
>Whoa who could have seen that coming

>>78882669
>We should eat Pizza and Ice Cream for every meal!
>HOLY SHIT HE'S FUCKING EVIL KILL HIM KILL HIM KILL HIM REEE IT'S OK TO PUNCH HIM BECAUSE HE SAID SOMETHING!!!!

WEW LADDIE BOYYYYYY!

>>78882669
Yes it is dumbo

>>78882713
Come on lad, liberals don't deserve to be punched for calling white men retarded.

>>78882779
>lad
is there a bigger red flag for a post being utter shit?

>>78882765
>>78882707
An exclamation of ignorance.

>>78882779
>Implying a world where all vocal racists get punched in the face regardless of their own race or who they're persecuting wouldn't be the optimal situation to end racism forever

>>78882846
>implying implications

not an argument, bro

>>78882591
>After all, they disagree with blacks being a positive side of the human race and wish them all dead, right?

Do you think that it is a minor disagreement? That's the baffling part.
Also as I've never said that people such as Richard Spencer ought to be killed. In fact I precisely stated that he should not be killed only because he is not a threat yet.
Still, he's not a public intellectual, he's an actual political activist. He's not saying the shit he does for free speach's sake, he's actually doing so in order to build a movement wich, as we already know, is completely immune from debate and reason.
Therefore the only way to truly oppose a Nazi party is to eradicate it from the beginning.
And fyi, Hitler literally said this.

> "Only one thing could have stopped our movement - if our adversaries had understood its principle and from the first day smashed with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement."

>I couldn't give a toss about Nazi's, they are a non-threat to the stability of the world.
That only means that you're a dumb motherfucker who is completely oblivious about what is happening in the US and many European countries as we speak. You're not above it, you're just ignoring it.

>That includes Nazi's.
Of course opposing Nazis means that you're a nazi. Just so you know, what you're saying is nothing new, you sound like any liberal in the Germany of 1932. You're literally parroting the same rethoric that bought Nazism to power, legally.
If you can't see that political movements based on genocide should be opposed with any possible mean there's nothing I can do for you.

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>>78882946
Just to chime in with my agreement.

>>78882946
>hurr durr if you're not literally taking up arms and shooting white people you're a nazi
nice argument bro
oh wait
it isn't one

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>>78882846
>tfw Kant's Categorical Imperative justifies punching nazis

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>>78879758
>Nazis
>evil

>>78882328
>1. Protocol III of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. This clause prohibits the use of incendiary weapons on people. Y
As you have chosen to lie to my face, this will be my last response to you.
http://disarmament.un.org/treaties/t/ccwc_p3/text
As can be seen by anyone, the Protocol does not " prohibits the use of incendiary weapons on people." It prohibits certain use during cases of civilian presence.

>My point was that USA finds the idea of banning the use of clusterbombs stupid because they can make them 'smart' and that means they're not a risk to civilians

That is not at all true. The US is not only dismantling the majority of its cluster munitions, but even in the case of smart munitions, restricts their use in urban environments. Such a restriction cannot be imposed on the use hand grenades given their need in urban combat, hence the desire for smaller radius grenades.

Last post you get troll.

>>78883004
Too bad that I have not advocated for either shooting up people or directing hate towards random white right wing people.
I'm saying that we should punch the people who are trying to organize themselves politically in order to push a genocide-based ideology.
Stop conflating my opinions to the SJW realm, there is nothing leftist in what I'm saying.

>>78883043
>smug froggy image and some green words

no es un argumento, senor.

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>In Saving Private Ryan, a cowardly gentile lets a Nazi stab a Jew to death, even though he could easily shoot him with his rifle.

THAT is filmmaking.

>>78883072
you're like, the opposite of calling the kettle black right now. you're calling the teapot white, and then posting about how much you hate teapots an anonymous image board. seriously, listen to yourself.

>>78879758
>they didn't choose to die, so they deserve to die

>>78882523

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic_alternative_theories#Gardiner.27s_Ship_That_Never_Sank

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>>78882946
Okay? Then let him, or keep fighting him, or whatever. As for me not giving a toss, why not? They're not a threat, they don't control the media, the world is more connected than it ever was in 1932. You're comparing a world where at best you've got government run newspapers and radio stations, maybe film and TV, but nothing on the scale of what we have now. The media can literally decide what you should think and what you should do. You say something that triggers a watch word (like it already does) on the internet? Here comes the party van! You say something in the street or to a friend? Here comes the party van! In 1932, things could grow because the means of expanding were the same to everybody; public meetings and newspapers. Now? Now there are entire agencies set up to making sure you don't do or say something bad. You go online and say you're going to blow up a landmark or something on Twitter or Facebook, time how long it takes before somebody is knocking on your door. Or how about going on terrorist websites? How many times can you do it before you get a knock at the door?

Nazism will be nothing more than a fringe group for faggots who are literal Naziboos, who were Romanboos. Nazism will never rise against specifically because the media will point it out and control it. As for Trump? Trump isn't a Nazi and even if he was, the USA has powers in place to prevent him doing anything the Nazi's did. There is no special order which gives him complete and total power over everything. Even if there was and even if he did enact it, you think the American people will take it?

No. They won't. Again, you're retarded if you think Nazism can ever rise again in the West. You are a tinfoiler, you are trying to find a fight so you can pretend you're 'rising up against the evil in the world' when you're just a faggot fighting other faggots on the fucking internet.

Sort your fucking life out.

>>78883121
I haven't called the teapot white, you did.
Read again the posts I've written, I've never in my life played that narrative (I personally find it ridicolous).
Sure, all the white supremacists are white, but not all white people are white supermacists.

>and then posting about how much you hate teapots
I'm not off topic, all this debate spawn directly from the picture posted by OP.

>seriously, listen to yourself.
I'm bedridden, it's not like I can do anything else at the moment.

>>78882540
Not true, mods can't do that. At least not without autist levels of intuition.

>>78883202
>im bedridden
the only bed you should be ridding yourself of is the soft, cushy bed of liberal lies you're metaphorically laying on. seriously, stand up. smell the coffee. open a window, it's gotta be hot in there.

>>78883104
underrated

>>78883191
Nazism may rise again, but as we've seen in this thread people are not able to recognize it. There are people who have listened to what Richard Spencer had to say and haven't thought about Nazism.

Apparently with peole like you saying that you're not nazist, even if you're espousing all of the teachings of the ideology, is enough to be free from criticism.
Also stop thinking that I'm advocating for some sort of universal violence against everyone who identifies with right wing values. Richard Spencer wasn't a random guy, he is an actual crypto-nazi political organizer. You won't defeat him with debates and witty essays, you stop him this way.

Now, we can be cynics like you, and just think that it is impossible for Nazism to rise again (wich may be true, but is ultimately a speculation), or we can be pragmatist, look at the nature of the ideology and his historical implications, and crush every political manifestation of Nazism as a whole.

>>78883325
the only thing that's pragmatic about you is your ignorance

>>78883238
so you're saying they can't see the IPs?

>>78883069
>Incendiary weapon" means any weapon or munition which is primarily designed to set fire to objects or to cause burn injury to persons through the action of flame, heat, or a combination thereof, produced by a chemical reaction of a substance delivered on the target.

PERSONS, not civilians, dickhead.

As for your shitty second point, it's replacing them with 'smart' bomblets which auto explode after X amount of time. And no, restricting them because of 'urban environments' does not defeat the point. The point is that cluster bombs are seen as inhumane and 'dumb', dumb being the term for no specific target only. Furthermore, reducing grenade blast radius is pointless as there is still a chance of civilian deaths. An outright ban should be the case, with restrictions to non-lethal grenades only.

Utterly pathetic.

>>78883406
Screenshot this post kiddies, this is a textbook example of a nonargument.

>>78879146
Well, it was either to man some fortifications in Normandy, or die in a stalag/concentration camp.
Also if Czechs were such great collaborators, then why did they killed Heydrich ?

>>78883325
Yeah, you're shitposting. We're done here.

>>78883072
Chiming in for the first time here;
you're advocating vigilante 'justice' because you're a fucking retard who thinks that a bunch of individuals making decisions with no regard for the law of the land is okay because those individuals (read: you) are more intelligent than both the government; as well as the people who are in contrast with your values.

You're an idiot with delusions of enlightenment and the only way to make your case look anything but absolutely fucking retarded is if you concede that whoever punches a nazi solely for the 'crime' of being a nazi should then be brought up on assault charges and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

>>78883471
>>78883447
>>78883389

I came here to discuss the implication of OP's pic, I'm not here to proselytize and change your opinion as a whole.
That said, given the political turbulence of these times I can only give you an advice: read more.

What you guys are saying are not statements derived by strong historical arguments, you guys are just applying the most basic common sense to a situation that is anything but intuitive.

Now, I'm just another anon on the internet, and I'm sure that nothing I will say will change my mind, so I'll end up here.
Read more about it, do your research and look at how society changed under nazism, then reexamine your arguments, while considering what the real world is actually like.

Have a nice day.

>>78883007
>normiebook

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>>78883104
Did you know the events around that character is literally an alagory for America?
The Americans, covered in ammunition and weapons desperately needed sits by and let's a German kill the new, just as Americans refused to enter the war and allowed them to kill the new.

The character watches as his friends die, and only acts when it's shown that the allies actually have the upper hand, just like when America entered the war the Soviets were already well on their way to winning the war.

The character is shown shooting unarmed Germans because of his feels and acting a hero after the battle was already won. Just like America acts like they beat Germany when in reality they only kicked a man already beaten.

Now that's what I call film making.

>>78883763
US' late intervention should be critizised, but I don't think that Spielberg was actually trying to make that point, considering how pro-America are all the other characters.
There is a great deal of patriotism in that movie.

>>78883763
letting the soviets and germans throw human waves against each other until battered, then swoop in and take over half of the continent is a great strategy

>>78881146
>>78880915

Civil rights marchers were hosed down, beaten, arrested, and killed by law enforcement officers and if you're American your grandfathers saw this with their own eyes

To throw up the first amendment as "dA reAL" American principle is hilarious

>>78883899
more like civil wrongs marchers
heh

>>78883763
That's exactly what I implied.

(((Spielberg)))

>>78878976
Is Rob Ager the best /tv/ youtuber ever?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4FeyONCtfc

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>>78881829
>>78878976
Leto was a fucking bastard

>>78884716
what a fucking mad man

>>78883406
Are you illiterate? Do you realize you're quoting the definitions section? Let's quote the actual prohibitions:

>1. It is prohibited in all circumstances to make the civilian population as such, individual civilians or civilian objects the object of attack by incendiary weapons.

>2. It is prohibited in all circumstances to make any military objective located within a concentration of civilians the object of attack by air-delivered incendiary weapons.

>3. It is further prohibited to make any military objective located within a concentration of civilians the object of attack by means of incendiary weapons other than air-delivered incendiary weapons, except when such military objective is clearly separated from the concentration of civilians and all feasible precautions are taken with a view to limiting the incendiary effects to the military objective and to avoiding, and in any event to minimizing, incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians and damage to civilian objects.

>4. It is prohibited to make forests or other kinds of plant cover the object of attack by incendiary weapons except when such natural elements are used to cover, conceal or camouflage combatants or other military objectives, or are themselves military objectives.

In other words, they have not been banned. Their use against civilians or near civilian concentrations has been banned, as well as their use for indiscriminate defoliate. Their use on an military formation away from an urban area for example is still completely legal.

But congrats troll I'll give you one more post.

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>>78883406
>>78884907
>
As for your shitty second point, it's replacing them with 'smart' bomblets which auto explode after X amount of time. And no, restricting them because of 'urban environments' does not defeat the point. The point is that cluster bombs are seen as inhumane and 'dumb', dumb being the term for no specific target only.

Not true. You apparently think that because the USAF will only have guided submunitions in the form of SFW that applies to all other US cluster munitions. A completely false statement, the US Army is in the process right now of developing newer but still "dumb" submunitions.

> Furthermore, reducing grenade blast radius is pointless as there is still a chance of civilian deaths. An outright ban should be the case, with restrictions to non-lethal grenades only.
You've now gone completely off the rails. You first implied a hypocrisy for the US not completely banning cluster munitions while also seeking decreased lethality in hand grenades. Now you're decrying that the US has not banned both entirely, which of course is a completely internally consistent policy.

But again, congrats on your idiotic trolling getting this response out of me.

>>78885031
congrats on not having an argument.

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>>78879146
1.) Czech conscripts at Normandy weren't volunteers. It's why they're referred to as conscripts specifically. The Allies took large numbers of Czech, Polish, French, and even Korean conscripts prisoner at Normandy who had been forcibly pressed into service.

2.) Germany killed 250,000 non-Jewish czechs in just a few years

3.) The Germans were despised, which is why when the Reich was crumbling there were massive revolts by resistance fighters all over the country that had widespread popular support

4.) /pol/ is a low-IQ board

>>78885152
Forgot to mention how the Koreans got there. Basically they were forced to fight for the Japanese against the Soviets but immediately surrendered. The Soviets then forced them to fight against the Germans but they immediately surrendered. The Germans then forced them to fight against the Allies, and they again immediately surrendered.

>>78883134
Yep.

>>78885122
>J-j-jokes on you I was only pretending
Goodbye then, not checking for whatever new bullshit you post.

>>78885208
what?