Lads, Star Wars just hit Kino. And it's all thanks to F

>>67763865
>cartoons
>kino

Pick one

>>67763891
>JJ IS AWESOME XD

>>67763865
>JJ is a hack, he made a typical blockbuster to appease the masses

That is such a filthy Hipster statement I am literally puking my guts out.

>>67763865
Have to say, that's a pretty chilling ending to a great finale.

>>67763865
So, uh... what's happening there?

>it's another Star Wars cartoon thread

>>67763891
cartoons are the literal definition of kino

not /tv/'s meme definition

>>67763865
>Vader hobbling out of the ruins of a Sith temple

my feels.

>>67764059
>pigtail guy now is zatoichi
>maul still is a loser
>vader still is evil
>orange buttcheeks now is a ghost
>space aladdin now is falling to dark side
>space owl is the force god

I'll give you a TL;DR

>Ahsoka, Ezra and Kanan are sent to Malachor, an ancient Sith world, by Yoda
>They discover an exiled Darth Maul, who begins to manipulate Ezra
>Vader and three of his Imperial Inquisitors are sent to kill Maul
>Maul kills ALL THREE Inquisitors, and turns on Kanan, slashing his eyes and blinding him.
>Meanwhile Ahsoka challenges Vader, only to discover that he is Anakin Skywalker.
>Ahsoka refuses to leave him, like she did in The Clone Wars, and Ezra/Kanan make their escape, as does Maul in a stolen TIE Advanced ship that the dead Inquisitors left behind.
>The ending you see is the aftermath;
>Kanan and Ezra return to the Rebel Base, Rex realizing Ahsoka is not with them.
>Maul is escaped again
>You see the Sith Temple aaaaand.... Vader emerges, broken, and alone, the last shred of humanity left in him gone.
>Its heavily implied he killed Ahsoka, or at the VERY LEAST believes he has.
>Ahsoka is seen fading into shadows, mirroring her exit from the Jedi Temple in The Clone Wars, but it is ambiguous as to whether she is actually alive in that last shot
>Episode ends with Ezra opening a Sith Holocron that Maul said only the dark side could do.

It was a fucking phenomenal episode, who fucking cares if it was a cartoon. Absolutely beautiful, and that last shot of Vader walking out the Temple is too fucking good.

Here is the big Ahsoka vs Vader fight by the way;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UVJSJOiLk4

>>67764059
Ahsoka Tano is leaving the Jedi order in the top.

Ahsoka Tano is walking into a Sith Temple in the bottom.

>>67764221
> forced kino shit again.

Didn't you get told hard enough the first time?

>its a "high schooler who still watches cartoon network" episode

this music is terrible dude

>>67764264
dude it's like totally terrible senpai! xD haha john williams 4 lyfe! episode 5 is the best episode!! *tips fedora

t. kino-master patrician

Filoni has hinted hes thinking already of what he can do with Ahsokas future and where she can go, if anywhere

>>67764250
>its a "guy on japanese image board thinking he's better than others" episode

>>67764534
You mean past. They're already releasing some books that detail what happened to her after The Clone Wars.

>>67764264
>this music is terrible dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oegeTZxsrQ4

listen to this and get back to me

>>67764683
that too. But he said in a spoilers interview that he was thinking of ways to get her to continue, get her out of that predicament she was in

>>67764722
holy fuck this is good

>>67764722
Some of the best music in the entire franchise.

Not the only time it's happened on this show either, listen to this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmp48_jLZrw

Ashoka > Rey

>>67764722
>>67764813

this is much better than TFA williams

>>67763865
>it's SW Rebels

Go kill yourself, you underage /co/ faggot.

>>67764821
No fucking shit.

Ahsoka is a character that had time to develop, grow, make mistakes, learn, and became compelling enough that the audience feared for her life when she stood up against Vader.

Can anybody say the same for Rey? She was pretty much perfect the moment we met her, and she BEATS Kylo, in her first movie. What in the actual fuck? That's not how a heroes journey works JJ.

You can argue that Ahsoka has had dozens of 20 minutes episodes to grow, whereas Rey has thus far had 1 movie, but still.

>>67764865
>/tv/ trying to take some kind of maturity high ground
You know this board is the laughing stock of the entire website, right?

>>67764893
>You know this board is the laughing stock of the entire website, right?
we're being raided by /co/mblrs

>>67764893

I thought that was /v/.

/tv/ literally manufactures memes while the other boards feed off of them like parasites.

>>67764893
So you admit you're from /co/? Fuck off.

>>67764927
yeah, /tv/ along with /pol/ are probably the biggest meme creators on this site

>>67764940
>>67764915

I'm not any board retards

>>67764927
/v/, /b/ and /tv/ are the trifecta of shit.

>>67764813
sounds like Clint Mansell's The Fountain
and even both of them have star clusters

>>67764959
Go back to /co/ and take your shit tier cartoons with you.

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>>67763865

Why even care about the cartoon side material, it's all incongruous to the actual canon.

>>67765178
>talking about shit you dont know about

>>67765162

http://s1.webmshare.com/1RdV0.webm

>>67763865
i hope you're right, jj's starwars was pure mediocrity

>>67765162
Ignoring the absolutely retarded 'using your lightsabers to fly like a helicopter' moment, what's with these faggot tier lightsabers?

>>67765273
They're to compensate for the Inquisitors lack of training.

Maul can do spinny shit on skill alone, but the Inquisitors dont have his training. They can't or they would try break the Rule of Two (in Sith lore, there can only be two)

So they have those Lightsabers to cheat.

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>>67765273
Basically a generic weapon used by Jedi Hunters as a way to catch stray and generally untrained Jedi off guard. It also lets them switch fighting styles, etc, and is a multipurpose tool. A lightsaber is basically a finely crafted sword for a fighter using their own specific and distinct style.

>>67765244
KEK

>>67765244
i don't get this meme. care to wax lyrical me on it?

>>67765318
Yeah I loved Maul just smashing them to pieces and schooling them without any electronic saber bullshit

Just highlgihted how mediocre they are

>>67765162
>>67765244

>It ain't Sheev starts playing

>>67765202
You expect me to believe, while watching the PT, that Ahsoka is a relevant character who actually exists?

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>/swr/ thread on /tv/

>>67765444
Yeah. Literally everybody working on Star Wars has to acknowledge her existence. Can't pretend she never happened.

There's already nods to the cartoons in the damn movies mate.

TFA has direct references to Hondo, Vizago, and Ziro the Hutt, three characters that debuted in the cartoons.

And the writer on Rogue One says he is very interested in bringing characters from The Clone Wars/Rebels into one of the upcoming spin off movies.

>>67765480
I hope not Rebels.

>>67765480
No there aren't any reference to any cartoon character in the movies

>>67765444
it actually makes anakin's fall to the dark side and distrust of the council more believable.

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Post yfw Ahsoka features in Rogue One

>>67765552
Sorry fám

http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2015/10/easter-eggs-from-prequels-boba-fett.html

Maz has memorabilia from Podracing, Hondo Onaka, Ziro the Hutt, Vizago, and other things from the cartoons and prequels.

>>67764927
Many boards see memes as cancer.

>>67764813
>>67764722
Genuinely great scores. Hopefully they get reused at some point.

So, I'm sold. What's the name of this cartoon? do I need to start from the beginning of it or is there a better season to start on?

>There's always a bit of truth in legends
So they're just going to rip a lot of shit from old EU?

Fuck off /co/mblr

>>67765829
Star Wars Rebels.

Starts out weak as fuck. You're gonna have to plow through one and a half season of filler and waifu/husbando killing before shit starts to happen.

I'd like to say you can skip first half of season 1. But not really in terms of character development.

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>>67765829
Watch The Clone Wars

This show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06S3f_dGPdY

Then watch Star Wars: Rebels after.

Both shows have some rough, meh episodes, but they also have some of the absolute greatest moments in the entire franchise, no bullshit.

>>67766003
Both shows are garbage and have some "okay" episodes when they're at their best.

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>>67765829
Star Wars Rebels

First season is lackluster, but necessary as it establishes the premise and all the characters.
Second season is better, but still not brilliant. The season 2 finale, however, was very good, and a big step up from everything prior.

Before getting in Rebels you should watch some of The Clone Wars, which was the animated Star Wars show preceding this one.
Clone Wars started out really bad, even worse than season one of Rebels, but it got better as it went on. By the end it had produced some great arcs.
The show also provides some much needed character building for Anakin, making him more likable and his decent into the dark side more understandable.

See pic for a loose guide for The Clone Wars. The first 2-3 seasons can't compare to the latter ones, so don't be put off too much if they don't impress you.

>>67764215

It was one of the better episodes in this series, I'm really excited to see the direction they take it from here.

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The one qualm I have with the series is the animation style. I'm glad they went with something a bit more cartoony and not hyper realistic but I think they went too much one way. You do very quickly get used to it, and space battles/droids are completely acceptable.

>>67763865
What's with Artichoke?

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>>67763865
I get that Kino is supposed to refer to some kind of ground-breaking film or whatever, but all I think of is this

>>67764927
>/tv/ literally manufactures memes
That's not a good thing, /tv/ is one of the worst boards with crossboarders constantly shitposting on /a/ and /v/.

>>67766994
tell that to kanjiklub

>>67764927
See I spend a lot of time on /co/ and the level of actual discussion outweighs the /tv/ memes, nobody outside this board cares about them as much as you think.

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>>67765552

>>67766970
FETCH ME THEIR SOULS!

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>>67767567
WHEN I FIND YOUR MASTER, I'M KICKIN HIS ASS!

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>>67767987
BRAVA FILONI
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>>67767252
>See I spend a lot of time on /co/

Fuck off

>>67764927
>/tv/ literally manufactures memes
That's a funny way of saying /sp/

>>67763865
The ending was the biggest copout put on small screen.

Fuck you Filoni.

>>67768349
When was the last time a /sp/ meme was relevant?

>>67768411
it's not a cop out if it's pure art.
Only plebs need shock value.

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>>67763865

That was the first episode of that show that gives me hope that it'll get as good as Clone Wars.

Holy shit it was good.

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>>67768446
When it's being used by /tv/

>>67766024
>Both shows are garbage and have some "okay" episodes when they're at their best.

Kill yourself immediately

Actually I thought the same thing when I tried to watch Clone Wars. Turns out it's utter shit until midway through the second season, and then it becomes the best Star Wars ever made

>>67768463
I don`t need shock value - I wanted to see Ahsoka either die on screen or fight until she forces Vader to flee.

They put all the important characters in one place, one location hyping it up in to stratosphere only to let that hype deflate.
Everyone walked away...

And the fuckign saber-copters? Fuck off, LSG should be executed for it - shit is now canon for fuck sakes.

Best SW theme ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o--bLEobBFY

>>67768618
>And the fuckign saber-copters? Fuck off, LSG should be executed for it - shit is now canon for fuck sakes.
It's not like the idea of it will extend past Rebels. The Inquisitor program has to be removed from existence by the time Rebels catches up to ANH, which is why Filoni had three inquisitors die in the finale. Once they are done, their lightsabers won't be manufactured and no one will be able to loot them and carry on using them. Out of the 4 inquisitors we've seen in Rebels so far, only one of their lightsabers didn't get destroyed somehow, but it got left on Malachor.

>>67768446
costanza's place in the pantheon will be relevant beyond the lifespan of this site.

>>67764215
>Vader and Ahsoka had survived the temple’s destruction, with Vader limping away from the rubble of the Temple, and Ahsoka stumbling into the remains of the Sith Temple.

I only watched The Clone Wars (2008) kino few years ago, but damn this was pretty good.

>>67768796
The movie, or the full series?

The Movie was Cinemá, and some of the earlier Seasons were Flicks, but Season 4-6 was absolute fucking Kino, the pinnacle of the entire franchise, and it's good to see Rebels finally had such an episode.

>>67768844
Haven't watched TV series yet.

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>>67768870
WATCH IT

I can't recommend this shit enough

>>67763865
Well, that's dumb
OP, go back to your gay orgy at /co/

>>67765552
CIA?

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>it's a "retards think their ''''''''''canon'''''''''' cartoon is as good as the movies" episode

>>67769210
Stupid frog poster, I don't think you have enough quotation marks.

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>>67769274
>he thinks his shitty cartoon with no feasible way of being a believable part of the movie universe is "canon"
back to >>>/co/

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/co/ is making fun of us again >>81364080

>>67769376
Rogue One is joining the movie universe in December. Rebels is having elements of Rogue One appear in the show, so it's entirely possible that the reverse happens as well.

>>67769429
>b-buh Rogue One will have the cartoon characters in it!
keep dreaming

>>67765829
This show is not worth watching. The finale was one of the only decent episodes so you'll have to watch 2 full seasons of shit just to have background on it

>>67769463
Rogue One is literally in the same "year" as Rebels season 3, based on the way people behind the show are talking about it. Both the show and the movie have the same premise: rebel cells screwing with the Empire.

>>67769429
Even if Rogue One has the cartoon garbage in it, it doesn't change the absolute lack of continuity between I-VI and the SHIT cartoons

>non japanese cartoon
>kino

pick one

>>67769517
>SHIT cartoons

you're high

>>67769583
Stop responding to such transparent bait

>>67769583
>>67769631
There is no continuity between the originals and the prequels and the cartoon. Retconning everything won't make it any more believable

>>67764215
>Vader's fucking terrible voice
>le Ezra QUIPS!!!!! LE QUIPS!!!
>thin lightsaber blades

Fucking hell, this is shit.

>>67764215
>Anakin Skywalker was weak, so I destroyed him

That is literally Kylo Ren's dialogue on the bridge in TFA but they changed the name

God this is just shit.

>>67769763
>Vader's fucking terrible voice
It's 100% JEJ and Matt Lanter who voiced Anakin in TCW.

>thin lightsaber blades
Original concept art and also to be more in line with how the blades were in ANH

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>>67769787
>what is pottery

>>67769883
he's right about the sabers tho

Clone focused episodes were the best episodes from the Clone Wars.

Umbara was fucking Vietnam, star wars edition

>>67769583
>>67769631
so I'm supposed to pretend that all the stupid shit in TCW and Rebels is part of the movies because Disney said it's "canon"? Fuck off to co

>>67768923
which episode was this?

i only watched the filtered episodes on /co/'s TCW guide and i don't think i've encountered this

>>67763865
>Kanan is now literally Rahm Kota, he even uses Starkiller's reverse grip, and Rebels Recon confirmed him gaining Starkiller-like Force powers
so Force Unleashed is semi-canon. How does it feel, KOTOR fags?

>>67769404
what was that a link to

>>67770149
Yes. That's how fiction worlds work. Why do you find this so hard? The shows are way better than any of the flicks

>>67770168
taking inspiration from KoTOR and EU =/ canonizing it again

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/co/ here

You guys are weird. But we like your sheev memes

>>67770224
what`s so weird about us?

we are looking at TFA and SW in general from /tv/ perspective

Wow it's fucking nothing
Pathetic underage faggots

>>67770196
>The shows are way better than any of the flicks
that's going a bit too far, but it's definitely still better than TFA.

filoni's the true successor to lucas

>>67770196
>Watch Maul die in Phantom Menace
>Oh that's right he survives, teams up with his brother Savage Oppress (totally not the dumbest name in Star wars), and is still alive in fucking Imperial times

>Watching ROTS
>Oops better remember that Ahsoka exists!

>Clones execute Order 66
>Whoops that's right, the fucking brain chips made them do it

It's stupid shit like this that I can't stand

>>67770224
does /co/ actually like TFA? what do you disagree with?

>>67770224
You guys had a gay 34 thread the other day that was up for days and your cocksucking faggit janitors didn't care

>>67763865
literally nothing in that episode happened as I expected or as I wanted but it was still fucking great
Filoni is GOAT, just make him direct a movie

>>67770300
Probably. Personally though, the movies are my least favourite thing about Star Wars.

>>67770340
>Filoni is GOAT, just make him direct a movie
He was in charge of that CW feature animation.

And it was absolute fucking trash even by /co/ standards.

>>67770334
/co/ shits on TFA just as much as /tv/, though for completely different reasons.

>>67765178
I want this meme to end
Filoni already confirmed that all of the new pre-New Hope canon will tie together. Comics, anthology movies, cartoons.

>>67770549
You can't change contradictions in movies that were made 40 years ago

>>67770638
Yes you can. Computers are beautiful things.

>>67769763
>>le Ezra QUIPS!!!!! LE QUIPS!!!

I don't understand this.

>>67763865

The new Star Wars was OK but It didn't feel like Star Wars. Lucas had this knack for setting the Star Wars mood. There's some campiness and stupidity involved in Lucas' production and I actually miss that.

JJ Abrams made Star Wars feel like a regular sci action flick.

Lucas' over reaching approach made it oddly memorable.

>>67770710
He's a memer speaking in his native tongue of meme-anese. Ignore him

>>67770727
Don`t worry famalamadingalong, Rian Johnson likes prequels and if his previous work is any indication, we`ll get the best Star Wars movie since ESB.

May the Force be with him.

The Force Awakens was a piece of anti-art anti-intellectual shit.

No amount of shilling or name calling will change my opinion.

>>67770727
>some campiness
There is loads of that in TFA... Oscar Issac's scenes early on.

>>67770842
Nobody is disagreeing with you......

>>67770727
people dont make campy movies anymore, and TFA was far better than any shit lucas could push out

>>67770922
Which is weird because I'm pretty sure I said the same thing in another Star Wars thread and got like 20 (You)s of people calling me a contrarian faggot.
I guess the kids are still asleep.

>>67770899
the murlocks were campy as fuck

>>67771017
Oddly enough, I find kids don't really come into animated SW threads.

>>67771017
I dont agree with you, but you are entitled to that opinion, I just get annoyed when people pretend the prequels are better than TFA.

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>>67771101
>you are entitled to that opinion
>I just get annoyed when people pretend the prequels

>opinion
>people pretend
>opinion

>>67771262
Its not an opinion to think the prequels are better than TFA you are just objectively wrong sorry pal

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>>67771262
>implying that people don't pretended to be retards/contrarians on 4chan

>>67771316
5 >>> 4 >> 6 = 7 > 3 >>>> 1 >>>>>>>> 2

The only moment that made me remember I`m a human being in PT was the ''You were my brother, Anakin'' line. I got choked up, a little.
TFA had three of those moments, for me anyway.

TPM and AoTC felt like new canon Chewbacca comics - frames passing by with a score in the background whailing all over movie, trying hard to compensate for flat visuals, dialogue and everything for that matter.

But that is, you know - my opinion.

>>67768541
>Turns out it's utter shit until midway through the second season
I don't know, Clone Wars had a handful of episodes that were pretty good prior to that but for the most part you're right. Hopefully Rebels follows a similar trend but I can honestly say there's only been like 4-5 episodes at best including the most recent finale that I thought were actually pretty good. Also Clone Wars had a bunch of good characters but I think there's only 2 or 3 characters in Rebels that I don't actively loathe.

What if Snoke is Darth Vader's old apprentice Ashoka?

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>>67771568
He`s a male but they did consider the idea of Snoke being a female.

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>>67771615

>>67771615

How did Will Smith get HIV?

>>67771568
Snoke is Maul.

>>67772158
>he thinks Maul will survive S3 of Rebels

phampalam, I`ve got bad news for you...

>>67772242
We all thought he was done for in the Phantom Menace and in the clone wars too.
He's too much resilient to get rekt.

>>67772242
The guy's like space Herpes at this point

>>67772324
I don`t he`ll die.

But I bet he`ll be exiled for good or somehow banished in one way or another.
Besides, he`s nearing the end of his biological lifetime anyway. So he might as well deal a big blow to Empire before dying.

>>67772530

>Rey is really Maul's apprentice which is why she uses the staff
>Maul is pretty much Sith Obi-wan at this point
>Luke mindwiped Rey to make her forget she's Maul's apprentice and wants to use her for his own ends
>Rey is going back to the darkside in episode VIII

>>67772530
Isn't he about 50?

>>67772683
No idea since new canon but while he kicked ass in Rebels, he`s just getting older...

>>67772683
>>67772764
Age doesn't matter when you have robot legs.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the finale and I loved Maul in this but I still can't get over the fact he's not dead. If you think about it, it's fucking ridiculous. It's nearly ANH and the pantomime villain maul hasn't kicked the bucket yet.

>>67773190
Being near ANH doesn't mean every single non OT character needs to suddenly die.

>>67773295
They have to serve some purpose.

I see no use for Maul beyond OT as both Vader and Sheev die in RoTJ.
Same with Ahsoka - her master is dead and when he ''returns'' before dying, she`s not there anyway.

Rex and the rest of the Ghost crew can be retired easily.

>>67764915
>we
Kil yourself, cancer

I just want to see ashokas orange booty cheeks, tbqh senpai.

>>67773295
>>67773190
I have this stuck in my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCQCKsTQkMY

im kinda glad ahsoka died ashley eckjews voice didnt make for convincing matured ahsoka

>>67773190
he becomes insidious 3

>>67773190
Well, Boba Fett refuses to die also......Forget that.
It's all retconed by Disney.

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>>67763865
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEETTTTT.

>having to go thru dozens of episodes just to get to a decent one

No thanks. This fan-fiction tier shit can go fuck itself.

The only things that can be classified as Star Wars are A New Hope, Empire , Return, and The Force Awakens.

>>67763962
>>67764090
>literally watches children's cartoons every saturday

>>67769763

If you're talking about the voice-editing, then yeah that's different from movie Vader so of course it won't sound as good.

If you're talking shit about James Earl Jones though then fuck you

>>67774210

You had me until the last one.

>>67774210

>The only things that can be classified as Star Wars are A New Hope, Empire , Return

This anon gets i-

>and The Force Awakens.

I've been rused.

I watched all of the first season a while back. Calling a cartoon better than TFA is fucking joke. You have to reach and cherrypick two spread out shitty looking episodes or so to even begin saying that shit. And then the red dotted Indian quipmaster who never stops still shits on dramatic moments. It's shit. Just because it has potential doesn't mean it is better. No, it's a kids cartoon and it shows. Stellar looking movie made to appeal to all ages >>>> infantile bad graphics cartoon. Speaking of all ages I hope Rouge One is as dark as they're saying. They themselves announced it by comparing it to Black Hawk Down.

>>67774210
you just like star wars for nostalgia.

>>67765273
Maul already did the two bladed saber so it's the best they could come up with after that.

>>67765162
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>>67763865
What the fuck is going on here? How are Darth Vader and Darth Maul alive at the same time? Or is it a split timeline? Even beyond the fact that Maul died (right?) before Vader existed, it also breaks the rule of two.

>>67771785
Non of this was even remotely transported into the movie.

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>>67774601
It's a long story but basically Maul survived, cucks Obi-Wan (literally kills his waifu) but gets rekt by Sheev, and goes into hiding.

Vader is hunting him in the show, to kill him.

Pretty cool stuff, honestly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg

>>67774601
Darth Maul survived by pure hate and built spider-legs out of garbage and wept in a garbage pit for 12 years before being rescued.

>>67765162
>watch star wars rebels they said
>it's better than the prequels they said
>it's like a cartoon of a new hope they said

>>67774601
He survived, got rescued by his bro, led a crime syndicate, took over Mandalore, killed Obi-Wan girlfriend, was captured by Sidious and used in a plot to destroy a group of Force Witches.

>>67774815
Don't believe /co/'s lies.

>>67774601
maul rejected sith. Maul got robot legs. He uses dark side. If you want to watch the finale, all you need to know is that the sexualized orange alien was a close apprentice of Anakin and she betrayed him by leaving the jedi.

The other episodes of Rebels aren't worth watching, but the finale is pretty good.

>>67774601
Anon you have some catching up to do. Maul doesn't die in TPM because of his anger, Sith training and Nightsister witch mother all saving him. Maul is also not a Sith once TPM ends, since to BE a Sith you have to be under the training of a Master (Sidious). Sidious moves on to Dooku, thus abandoning Maul once and for all. That downgrades Maul from Sith to average Dark Side user; these titles are not synonymous. Thus, the Rule of Two is not broken.

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/tv/ hates TFA because they're memeing unwashed rabble rousers. /co/mbler hates TFA because they're disgusting bronies that read shitty picture books for kids and watch shitty cartoons for kids while feeling smug about it. And then there's the EU autistics. You niggers are all disgusting. I bet you'd shill swtor here if the mods wouldn't delete the thread.

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So Rey is going to use one of these nifty double lightsabers, right? don't tell me they're going to just give her another shitty generic single one and use the blue color.

Like what the fuck

Star wars makes no sense
Luckily, it's fiction which means it's not real

The only sensible headcanon is such
>The Phantom Menace
>Attack of The Clones
>Clone Wars (Gendy Tartatakovsky's stylised awesome cartoon one - not the plothole ridden cgi crap)
>Revenge of the sith
>A New Hope
>Empire Strikes Back
>Return of the Jedi
>The Force Awakens (as much as I hate it, it has ford, hammil and fischer - let's hope 8 and 9 redeem it. Afterall, I hate TPM as well but hey)

>>67775123
She will keep using Anakin's

>>67775205
but that's fucking gayyyyyyyyy
I thought she was giving it back to him at the end.

>>67775123
She will either get a lightsaber extension for her staff, or one similar to Maul's but with a longer grip, or just stay using the Skywalker Lightsaber.

>>67775179
>not the plothole ridden cgi
Do explain, anon.

>>67775123
Well they'll have to work out using a saber staff without it looking terrible like in TPM. Hopefully there's no 2 on 1 unless the 1 is really really really tricky.

>>67764215
I'm not a fan of the animation in this or The Clone Wars, but that McQuarrie-esque Vader redesign is just too good.

>>67775123
There's gonna be an epic flashback where we learn that Ezra was one of Luke's apprentices and is the only survivor because he became more powerful than even luke who's a weak old man now

Rey's gonna set out to find him, where he'll teach her to make a lightsabre like his
But then Kylo will arrive and kill him
Luckily Rey will have learnt enough to repel Kylo again and swear vengeance on Ezra's death

Screencap this
;)

>>67775278
>Ezra

Literally who. Keep your fanfiction trash out of the canon movies.

>>67775278
If anything, Ezra should be the one teaching Luke's Academy, since he started training his force powers much earlier than Luke did.

>>67775179
>Clone Wars (Gendy Tartatakovsky's stylised awesome cartoon one - not the plothole ridden cgi crap)
This is the easiest way to tell when someone is a fucking braindead pretentious cunt, who doesn't know what they're talking about and hasn't actually cared about Star Wars since they were 10.

The 2003 "series" was fucking 2 hours long, and was absolute garbage, yet fucktards like this guy will swear blind by it, while shitting on the 100+ episode show they hadn't seen. And the only reason is that you grew out of Star Wars before the newer show came out.

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>>67763865
>mfw I don't have to watch this kid's cartoon because none of it will ever be mentioned in any movie

Nice try /co/

>>67775399
>What is Rogue One

>>67775327
>was fucking 2 hours long, and was absolute garbage
in these 2 hours it managed to do what TCW couldn't in 6 seasons - being a sensible prequel to ROTS. And fuck you, it was great.

>>67775399
>It's not in the movies so its not true star wars ;____;

Also, >>67765631

>>67775399
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>>67775446
2003 was ok. It was brainless action for 2 hours with very little plot.

TCW was a character driven anthology of stories designed to expand the universe and characters, showing the shift in character and the Galaxy itself, from Episode 2 to 3, and it did it fantastically.

>>67775237
>Do explain, anon.

>hey remember how there are all those witches knocking about in space?
>so, like, isn't it funny how random bounty hunters frequently fought anakin and obi wan together and survived? guess they're not so powerful
>you know how at the start of ep3, anakin's all like I'm much stronger than last time as a reference to when he got btfo in ep2? yeah, no. turns out him and obi wan frequently fought tyrannus and sidious like every other week in circumstances that mysteriously always ended in draw
>you know how anakin's mad in ep3 cause they won't make him a master and he feels like the council don't trust him? well, it turns out that between ep2 and 3 he actually was given an apprentice who he had hilarious adventures with in a warzone! but then he disillusioned her and made her quit. woops!
>you know that c3po also frequently fought in the war along with jar jar binks?! oh, what fun they had together
>in fact, the good guys and villains so frequently fought and quipped without hurting each other, you'd think they were friends or something

>>67775446
The only reason Genndy Wars "works" as a prequel to ROTS is because it literally goes right up to the start of the movie. TCW does better with characterization and making you retroactively feel even worse seeing Jedi cut down in Order 66.

TCW had plans to keep going until 8 or more seasons, with episodes planned for plots concurrent to and beyond ROTS and Order 66. Then George sold out and Disney cancelled TCW.

>>67763865
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTFNwROFWaA

In the final bit Ezra's shown to open the holocron. Does that mean he's finally succumbed to the dark side since maul mentioned that you had to think like a sith to use it? I do hope they're going along that line.

>>67775327
>muh cartoons!
Yeah, for people who don't want to waste 30+ hours of their life watching jar jar and some padawans laugh at outsmarting some droids while anakin tries to look serious and not laugh along, there's this awesome cartoon that fleshes out all the characters, provides a decent account of the war and provides a backstory that leads directly into episode 3

But it's a free planet, so do what you like

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When are the movies going to get as brutal as the show?

>>67775521
>>hey remember how there are all those witches knocking about in space?
Dathomirian witches yes, they were concepts created by Lucas, and existed within the EU for a long time.

>>so, like, isn't it funny how random bounty hunters frequently fought anakin and obi wan together and survived? guess they're not so powerful
This never happened. Cad Bane is the only Bounty Hunter I can think of that took on Jedi, and he never won once.

>>you know how at the start of ep3, anakin's all like I'm much stronger than last time as a reference to when he got btfo in ep2? yeah, no.
Retroactively, this quote is referring to the last time they faced, which we know was in TCW Season 6. Use your head.

>>you know how anakin's mad in ep3 cause they won't make him a master and he feels like the council don't trust him? well, it turns out that between ep2 and 3 he actually was given an apprentice who he had hilarious adventures with in a warzone! but then he disillusioned her and made her quit. woops!
How is that a plot hole? If you knew anything about what you were talking about, it was the Council who disillusioned her, thus adding to Anakin's own distrust in the council

>>you know that c3po also frequently fought in the war along with jar jar binks?! oh, what fun they had together
You mean the one episode in Season 1 where they were with Padmé on a diplomatic mission, and there was no war in the episode whatsoever?

You're talking out your fucking asshole with this bullcrap.

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>>67765162
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>grown men watch this shit

>>67775521
>Nightsisters
Remember how there's millions of planets in Star Wars with characters that don't have to be mentioned or take part in every single event?
Remember how literally all the witches were murdered by the CIS by the end of TCW?

>Bounty Hunters
You seem to hold bounty hunters to a higher regard than they actually deserve. The only one we ever saw do anything useful was Boba easily taking carbonite Han to Jabba. He didn't even do any of that himself; it was all Vader's trap and Cloud City's tech.

>Anakin's line to Dooku
I will give you this one. Though, they never actually fight Sidious outside of force visions.

>Ahsoka
Everything about her is just characterization for Anakin. The Jedi are shown to have to change their ways as the war drags on, and giving a non-Master an apprentice to train is one of those things. The Council itself is what made Ahsoka quit, since Mace pulled the whole "Lol this big mistake on our part was actually your Trial, I see that now with the Force!" bullshit. Anyone in their right mind should have refused to return to the Order then and there.

>Threepio
As if it matters since his mind got wiped at the end of ROTS.

>>67775521
none of those are plot holes, anon.

>>67775758
>They have Spinsabers
>Darth Vader has stated, on record, that spinning is a good trick
>Sheev kills jedi via spinning
Can't you see the poetry at work?

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>>67775943
( ._.) ( ;_;)

>>67764722
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIaUx84HWs

This "kino" meme is awful.

>>67775536

> making you retroactively feel even worse seeing Jedi cut down in Order 66

What? They were trying to do exactly the opposite.
After TCW you get the Jedi actually deserved the genocide.

>>67776132
aaaaand someone else already linked it

good song tho

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>>67775943
Pls :(

>>67776132
JOHN WILLIAMS BTFO

>>67775635
burn....

>>67776192
Yes, they did deserve it based on their idiocy. However, they made Plo Koon much more of a character we are supposed to like, and made all the clones have personality. We were supposed to piece together how the clones feel about their Jedi Generals and then suddenly killing them without warning or reason, making it all much sadder.

>all these manchildren trying to defend this shitty children's show that has never pretended to be anything other than a way to sell more toys to children
wew lad

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>>67775521
>witches
They were pretty irrelevant in a galactic sense, and were all massacred by the separatists anyway

>bounty hunters
Cad Bane, who was literally the most prolific bounty hunter in the galaxy at the time, encountered two of the most prolific Jedi of the time? Wow, what are the odds.

>Anakin boasting against Dooku
Yeah that's stupid, but honestly it's more Episode 3's fault than the show's. It makes sense that they would have encountered him at least a few times before (for that matter, they only fought Dooku a handful of times in the show, no where near as frequently as you make it out to be.)

>because they won't make him a master and won't trust him
The council never made Anakin a master in the show. They gave him an apprentice, that's different. And it went pretty fucking bad. She went from being a good, responsible, rule following jedi, to a reckless and dangerous soldier, similar to Anakin. The council didn't trust her or Anakin, further cementing the rift between them.
>hilarious adventures within a warzone
You're talking out of your ass. The stuff with Ahsoka was no more lighthearted than anything in the movies.

>c3po fought along with jar jar
this happened literally once. Threepio was personal aide to a senator highly active and instrumental in the war, and Jar Jar was a representative working under the same senator. It makes sense they would be involved in stuff.

>>67775443
A movie that will have 0 ties with rebels.

>>67776471
Funny, since it's been confirmed that Rogue One elements are showing up in the next season of Rebels.

>>67776427
I mean, it's what the entire franchise is based on.

So, if you value the animated SW series in that contest, they do really good. Surely better than most of the movies.

>>67775521
I agree with you, and the cartoons are terrible, but that's bad writing cluttering the universe.

These aren't really plot holes, it's just bad writing that weakens the rest of canon, just like old EU did lel.

>>67776514
I'll believe it when I see, but I won't see it, so I'm good.

>>67776558
>I'll believe it when I see, but I won't see it, so I'm good.

literally /tv/: the post

I love seeing how butthurt /tv/ gets at the cartoons.

Anybody else share this feeling? Its why I lurk these threads.

>>67776627
An obscure one line reference that mentions no names is the best one can hope for here.

I can't wait for the movie to come out and see all of you disappointed how "Disney missed an opportunity here." The same way you fags were butthurt about Snoke not being Palgueis, and how you guys will be butthurt again after 8 when he still isn't Plageuis.

Fuck, it's a good time to be a purist Star Wars fan. After every movie I get to see you BTFO Disney.

Remember, there is no canon but movie canon.

>>67776697
>actually believing the shit that you type

>>67776662
I`m just amused how some people jump on TFA and Rebels, as if they are going to sway those who love either one one of those or both.

I posted in this thread and I like TFA quite a lot but I don`t care about Rebels.
And I also voice this opinion in /co/ - they barely care, it`s these Armond Whitefags and /tv/-autists who can`t help themselves but sperg out with daily Mary Sue memes or Emo Ren shitposting.

How insecure one has to be...

>>67776856
lol, the butthurt is real

Remember how nothing form the nucanon played a role in TFA? Same will happen with ever Star Wars movies. No comic, book, video game, or cartoon, will ever be acknowledge by any movie.

And it's hilarious how mad you autists get at this fact.

>>67776697
>Snoke not being Palgueis

No EU-fag wanted snoke to be Plagueis. The Plagueis story has been cleanly done and dusted. It was only those pseudo-nerd ROTS fans that speculated about that.

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>>67776961
THE GREATEST GLADIATOR FIGHT IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD

>>67776926
Be as it may, you'll find tons of people everywhere still trying to argue that Snoke is Plagueis. I can't wait for the aftermath of 8. Instead of accepting it, they just heightened and moved their expectations to the next movie.

>>67776914
Finn's entire backstory is in the book "Before the Awakening", also explaining the bloody Trooper at the start of the movie, and "TR-8R".

Maz's castle holds many flags from different iconic star wars characters, notably Ziro the Hutt, Hondo Onaka, and Vizago, all of whom were introduced in the cartoons.

The Star Destroyer at the start of the movie is from the book "Lost Stars", known as the Inflictor.

The Super Star Destroyer is from "Aftermath".

Poe Dameron's origin is told in "Shattered Empire" and his upcoming solo comic, explaining how he manages to be such a good pilot without force sensitivity.

All of these things were released prior to the movie coming out, orchestrated by the Lucasfilm Story Group, run by Kathleen Kennedy, who Lucas sold the franchise too. The LSG's job, what they were hired and paid for, was to unify the Canon so that going forward, from 2014 onwards, everything is on an equal level of canon. No tiers.

Because of this, we had countless things from TFA explored long before the movie was even out. Pablo Hidalgo of the Lucasfilm Story Group, confirmed just this wednesday, that there would be crossover between Rogue One, and Star Wars: Rebels.

So please, I know this board isn't known for having smart people, but shut the fuck up about shit you don't know about.

>>67763865
what's kino?

>highest /co/ % in a /tv/ thread
>most non-meme, genuine, detailed discussion % in a /tv/ thread

coincidence? i think not.

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>>67775399
So if Kanan pops up in Rouge One you're going to go back and watch hundreds of hours of a children's poorly animated cartoon?

>>67776697
>purist Star Wars fan
>acknowledging anything funded by Disney
try again

>>67777134
A dumb meme you should ignore

>>67776697
>wanting everything connected
>want every event in the Star Wars universe referenced for muh quips

That shits stupid. The Star Wars universe shouldn't revolve around what impacts the Galaxy. Not everything has to be a nostalgia reference.

>>67777105
Out of all the post-RoTJ canon stuff, I cannot wait to see young Ben Solo comics/books.

Honestly, the only story that is important - how soon he began manifesting Dark Side potency, what was his initial relationship with Luke, at what point did Snoke enter his life, how he actually managed to fuck Lukes plans over, how he got this costume and lightsaber...

>>67777195
Rogue One is trying to be the first "no Jedi or force shit" movie, to see if SW can actually survive without it. At the most, we'll see Vader appear to fuck the rebel cell up. Adding Kanan would go against the biggest point of the movie in Disney's eyes.

>>67777105
You just mentioned a bunch of shit that has 0 impact on the movie, completely proving my point.

Finn's backstory is irrelevant, because it's a one line in the movie exposition.
I don't care what name a Star Destroyer has.
I don't care what Poe did before the movie, because it has no weight on this movie.

None of this matters, or has anything to do with the movie. It's pointless filler. I don't know why you are jacking off over it. It makes no difference if all of those things happened/existed or not, because they have nothing to do with the movie.

No rebels characters will ever be a character in the movie. Ashoka will never show up in the movie.

So please, I know this board is known for having lots of autistic people, but shut the fuck up about shit you don't understand.

>>67777301
>to see if SW can actually survive without it

Why are they doing that though?

>>67777195
Nope, but I know he won't show up so I'm not worried.

>>67777324
How are they going to milk this franchise forever if they have to relay on jedi in every movie?

>>67777324
money

>>67777288
For spoiler reasons, there probably wont be Ben Solo backstory stuff until after Episode 8 comes out, but yeah, I agree.

We may get teases of it in the upcoming book "Bloodline". The author says it focuses more on Leia and her politics (which JJ retardedly cut from TFA) but naturally I imagine there will be some allusions to Kylo in the book, seeing as it's about his mother.

>>67777324
To go back to the roots established in the OT where we saw more normalfag rebels than force users.

>>67777313
>Finn's backstory is irrelevant, because it's a one line in the movie exposition.
Nigga what? He is a protagonist, and his entire character of being an outcasted Stormtrooper is explained in a book. Without it, he just seems to uppity quit like it was a part time job.

>No rebels characters will ever be a character in the movie. Ashoka will never show up in the movie.
One of the Rogue One writers has already talked about bringing the cartoon characters to live action.

Stop being a retard.

>>67777324
Bring back the war feeling in Star Wars. Expand to the universe.

>>67777354
What's wrong with relying on Jedi? There're a lot of stories to tell. They can go back to the Old Republic if they run out./

>>67777473
>Nigga what? He is a protagonist, and his entire character of being an outcasted Stormtrooper is explained in a book.
It's all in the movie already, and none of it is mentioned in the film.

>One of the Rogue One writers has already talked about bringing the cartoon characters to live action.

Nice source.

>>67777301
Wait what

I assumed Rogue One would be TFA's timeline ? It's set during the original trilogy ?

JJ Abrams is a RAGING homo.

>>67777587
Rogue one is how they steal the death star plans for the FIRST Death Star. No bothans.Its supposed to be a suicide mission.

>>67777587
It's immediately before ANH. It's about the rebel cell that steals the first Death Star's plans and gets them to Leia.

>>67777666
Execute order

>>67763962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRxKHC7AlHc

>>67777587
Rogue One is set days/weeks before ANH.

>>67777324
Why not? You're not one of those "if it isn't a generic whimsical heroes journey then it isn't star wars!" fags are ya?

>>67777777

>>67777777

>>67777527
>What's wrong with relying on Jedi? There're a lot of stories to tell. They can go back to the Old Republic if they run out./
I'm glad you asked, because this is one of the things that many EU fans don't get.

Nobody, but a small number of people, give a fuck about the Old Republic, and other EU shit.

Disney is going where the money is. Boba Fett, Vader, Han Solo, probably Yoda soon enough, and there are only so many Jedi they have to milk. These iconic characters have appeal across generations and cultures.

Revan does not. The only people who want to see Revan are going to pay for anything with "Star Wars" in the title. Disney has no reason to pander to them. They want to milk popular characters as much as possible, because that is where the money is when it comes to worldwide gross and mass appeal, iconic characters that have been popular in the public perception for decades.

Old Republic is like plan Z, if they run out of worthwhile shit. And even then, making an Old Republic movie will just have the normies go "Wait, why is Disney remaking Star Wars? Everything in this movie is a rip off the OT/PT but with a slightly different name? This is dumb as fuck."

>>67777587
Nope, it's a ANH prequel. Vader is the number 1 selling image/character of Star Wars. The first spin off Star Wars movie is literally relaying on the most popular Star Wars character to sell it. Not that I blame them.

>>67777105
This is a mistake from Disney

different tiers of canon is much better than everything being canon. Being required to read a book or play a video game about some side character is basically the cinematic death of star wars

they should just keep it to a lesser tier of canon so it's non-essential filler simply for those who specifically want to know more about some aspect of the universe

>>67777301
Unless we're being memed Donnie Yen's character looks to be Daredevil with the force. It will be interesting if he's not over the top. Maybe they just use him has a living radar until 1 scene.

>>67777955
>Being required to read a book or play a video game about some side character is basically the cinematic death of star wars
Exactly. Which is why the canon thing is a marketing lie. You don't need anything outside the movies to watch the movies, and never will.

Just like old EU, non movie canon is just optional, but irrelevant, filler.

>>67777564
You going to ignore the one Trooper Finn cared for at the start? That meant nothing? Didn't stand out like there may be an explanation there?

>Nice source.
Rogue One panel, TFA Launch Interview with the RO writers, and the recent Rebels Recon where Pablo Hidalgo mentions crossover between Rebels Season 3, and Rogue One.

>>67777105
>"No comic, book, video game, or cartoon, will ever be acknowledge by any movie."
>Maz's castle holds many flags from different iconic star wars characters, notably Ziro the Hutt, Hondo Onaka, and Vizago, all of whom were introduced in the cartoons.
You gonna' ignore that too?

>>67777955
The movies are still going to make sure everything is explained if need be. Lucasfilm knows not everyone is going to read a comic to understand.

But this guy >>67778025 is still a retard though.

>>67777965
Rumors say there are no force users. That may mean Donnie yen could be force sensitive. It'd be cool to have the second blind character in Star Wars. Hopefully he won't die like a bitch.

Hell, I hope the new squad all don't die like little bitches. Also, please no Mary Sue female lead.

>>67777965
Considering the news of "no force users in Rogue One" is almost a year old now, I wouldn't be surprised if they changed their minds since then.

>>67778084
Donnie yen might be force sensitive. But he won't use the force skills like Jedi. Just a rumor though.

>>67778084
Well from the reveal of the cast in costume Donnie has milky white eyes and a staff. Maybe he'll need protecting most of the time but that nigger has some sort of special force ability. I guess he could be kung fu without the force, but again, milky white eyes.

>>67777134
It is all things. Like energy, it can change and become whatever you want. Kino is dreams. Kino... is life.

>>67778046
>That meant nothing?
The meaning is already in the film. The filler canon was written after someone was told to do a Finn backstory novel after they were shown the script.

> Didn't stand out like there may be an explanation there?
Finn so his friend die and is sad and question his resolve. I don't need fan fiction to understand that, and neither does the audience.

>Rogue One panel, TFA Launch Interview with the RO writers, and the recent Rebels Recon where Pablo Hidalgo mentions crossover between Rebels Season 3, and Rogue One.
Link me, I ain't googling that shit.

>You gonna' ignore that too?
If you want to play semantics, it's an irrelevant reference, that still has no impact what so ever on the film. Ziro the Hutt, Hondo Onaka, and Vizago and whatever else, are not part of the film's story (and never will be, whoever this shitty fan fiction characters are).

>>67778084
Vader is confirmed. They said no Jedi.

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>>67778164
Maybe he's like 100 eyes in Marco Polo. Just a kick ass blind man. Maybe he's not force sensitive but a believer of that religion like Max Von Sydow's character in VII. That's a helluva lot more interesting than him actually being force sensitive. Everyone else will laugh and think the force is hokey until Vader shows up. Then again they should know Jedi's are real, right?

HOW IN THE LIVING FUCK IS DARTH MAUL STILL FUCKING ALIVE

>>67778233
You are beyond reasoning with.

>The writer was shown a script first, so it doesn't count!
>Spoonfeed me, I can't be bothered to find it myself!
>It's just a reference! That doesn't count either!
>Everything that isn't muh movie is fanfiction!

Predictions/things you want for Rogue One?

>all the main cast die
>not too much sacrifice BS
>all characters die because of a dislike/character or skill flaw throughout the movie
>Vader kills the most likable part of the squad
>Regular storm troopers are shown to be competent
>tantive IV ending shot or after-credits scene

>>67778333
Lucas realized he made a mistake.

>>67778342
You can straw-man as much as you want. I'll repeat myself on last time, and hopefully after you watch Rogue One you will realize how wrong you were:

Movies only care about the continuity in relation to other movies. Nothing of significance will ever happen in non-movie canon because it's filler, and an irrelevant reference is all you can hope for at best.

After all there is no practical difference between a comic book, vidya, cook or cartoon that is canon, and is ignored by the movies, and a comick book, vidya, book or cartoon that is canon, but still ignored by the movie.

Enjoy no Rebels in Rogue One, I know I will.

>>67778333
Character development and toys.

>>67778413
>most of the cast die but some survive but decide to retire after the event due to PTSD
>Vader wrecks their shit
>some family/kin relationship
>Special Ops Stormtroopers confirmed

>>67778333
money

>>67778342
>Everything that isn't muh movie is fanfiction!
It literally is though

nothing wrong with some fan fiction, but that's what it is

>>67778506
>rebels character meets Vader
>Rebels character adds more anger to Vader, thus influencing vader's character
>Vader gets more hate-filled and cold just like he was in ANH

ITS CANON.

>>67778506
>you watch Rogue One you will realize how wrong you were:
Pablo Hidalgo has literally already proven you wrong.

>Movies only care about the continuity in relation to other movies
This is true, obviously.

>Nothing of significance will ever happen in non-movie canon because it's filler
This is not. Nothing important can ever happen outside of the movies? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? Everything about how the Galaxy shifted and changed between 6 and 7 will be in books. Vader having an apprentice that he eventually kills in his last ever on-screen Lightsaber fight, didn't happen in a movie.

Do you think movies are some magical medium that only important stuff can happen in?

>>67778619
That's just working backwards and retroactively applying shit that already existed prior. Vader's characters has been established in the OT, if someone wants to right fan fiction, they have to do it in such a way it conforms to the OT. No changes have been made and the filler can be safely ignored.

>>67778680
>Pablo Hidalgo has literally already proven you wrong.
Cool source.

>Nothing important can ever happen outside of the movies? d? Everything about how the Galaxy shifted and changed between 6 and 7 will be in books. Vader having an apprentice that he eventually kills in his last ever on-screen Lightsaber fight, didn't happen in a movie.
Yep, irrelevant filler, that will never be acknowledged by any of the movies. It doesn't matter if all that happened or not, because the movie will continue to work under the assumptions they have not.

>Do you think movies are some magical medium that only important stuff can happen in?
Obviously, anything else would be bad business, and Disney has shown they know how to make money. No one there is stupid enough to attempt to tell a single continuous story across multiple mediums. That's why non movie canon has, and always will be, filler.

>>67774750
If that idiot hadn't been a pacifist she could have avoided that fate by having people that could kick ass at her side.

>>67778810
>Cool source.
https://youtu.be/P-bJu__WXmY?t=9m57s
Watch for ten seconds at this time stamp to be proven wrong.

>>67778810
>Vader having an apprentice that he eventually kills in his last ever on-screen Lightsaber fight
>Filler

>Obviously

Ok, nobody is this stupid.

Someone wake me up.

They could have Vader return from the dead and blow up Coruscant in a cartoon, and have episode 8 be a 2 hour long chess match between Leia and Chewie, and you would still insist that the cartoon was filler.

>>67778924
He stated that elements of ANH and Rouge one will be in Rebels, not the other way around.

Good try though.

>>67775179
You're forgetting Shadows of the Empire.

>>67778696
But it didn't contradict anything, did it? It provides evidence doesn't it? If anything, Luke being Vader's son should be stupid because there's nothing referencing that Vader was a former Jedi knight, the "best" pilot, or a "cunning" warrior.

No, I don't find Luke's son being stupid, but your way of thinking is very limited and I think it's too unmovable that it may be based on nostalgia.

>>67779032
Do you honestly think it won't work the other way around as well?

>>67778935
In the movies, Vader does not have an apprentice. No movie will ever acknowledge that he had one in some cartoon. Ashoka's name will never be uttered in a movie.

It's not complicated.

>lThey could have Vader return from the dead and blow up Coruscant in a cartoon
No, they couldn't. They don't get to do what they want to do, they have to work around established movie canon, and you know that. They can only do filler.

I'm tired, and it's late. Get back to me after Rogue One and 8, after you see I was right, and we can have this conversation again.

>>67779082
Yes, and you will see it after Rogue One too.

>>67779073
>But it didn't contradict anything, did it? It provides evidence doesn't it?
Of course not, they are not allowed to contradict anything. That's how filler works.

I don't care that Disney is making all this filler canon. I just understand it's irrelevant when ti comes to the movies and will never be mentioned. People can enjoy cartoons all they want, I'm just happy that it's optional.

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Reminder that the Story Group is actually attempting to make cohesion across every piece of media in Star Wars.

They told JJ what he could and could not do when he asked them questions about story elements.
Pic related, the LSG cohesively found a way to make a character from TCW show up in both a book and Rebels that takes place after TCW. All that despite both works being done by two completely different groups of people that had no connection to each other other than "doing something for SW."

>>67779082
It hasn't with Marvel, and they've got shows that people actually watch. so why would it with Star Wars?

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Will Donnie Yen's character be the best staff-wielding and non-mary sue acting in Star Wars?

>>67779179
Whats on his wrist? A flamethrower?

>>67779032
Motherfucker Kathleen Kennedy was asked at Star Wars Celebration 2015 specifically in the Rogue One panel, about bringing cartoon characters into Live Action, and she said yes, they were looking at such opportunities.

Shut the fuck up with your bullshit already.

>>67779154
Considering Ahsoka is canonically been one of the founders of the Rebel Alliance along with Bail Organa and Mon Mothma, I would actually put money on a name drop in Rogue One.

>>67779154
>I dont care

Your thinking is okay, but you just can't claim nothing is canon. The only thing the cartoon is doing that may offend some people is expanding the capabilities of what can be done or what can't be done by characters in star wars.

>>67779246
They might mention her as Fulcrum.

>>67779158
You're wasting your time anon. The dude sperging out in this thread is just going to scream "FILLER FILLER, NON CANON, FILLER" until you leave.

>>67779178
The Story Group was hired for the express reason of making all the SW stories match up and work together going forward. They are not split up into only concerning themselves with one type of media for SW; they are working to show all of them together.

Marvel is split between it's comic teams, live action show teams and the movie teams. There have been recent-ish articles showing that part of the movie team absolutely hates the live action tv show team, thus refuses to allow cohesion for the better of the universe.

>>67779294
Yeah, I was thinking that.

>>67766003

This is true. The Clone Wars, (and also Clone wars, for the art) made me feel more for the troopers than anything else, and Yoda isn't a prick in it. It makes you like Yoda again, something I hadn't felt since 1983.

>>67779246
>>67779207
> looking at such opportunities.
>looking
top kek

I think I stated my view well enough. We'll see after Rogue One who was right.
>>67779266
I didn't claim it's not canon, just that canon doesn't matter as far as the movies are concerned.

>>>/co/

>>67779179
>non-mary sue acting in Star Wars?
blind swordsmen (staffmen) are all mary sues.

>>67779351
>I didn't claim it's not canon, just that canon doesn't matter as far as the movies are concerned.
That's literally your headcanon, which has already been proven to be wrong by the simple existence of the Lucas Story Group. It's fine to have a headcanon, but it is not fine to spout it at people as if it's fact.

>>67779351
>Remember, there is no canon but movie canon.

Unless the rest of those aren't (You), you seem to be arguing that all of the other "filler" is not canon/impact interpretations of the movies in star wars.

>>67774855
More like don't believe Rebels general. They will defend the prequels to the death and other stupid shit.
Rest of /co/ has a pretty level headed view on Rebels.

>>67779384
>blind CHINESE swordsmen (staffmen) are all mary sues
ftfy.

>>67774043
I love Vader in almost all his incarnations.

>>67779395
This is just semantics.

It's not "head-canon" to state that non-movie canon won't play a role in the movies. I mean, it's demonstrably true, and will become clear to even you after the next movie or two.

Headcanon would be extrapolating or denying lore elements based on other elements. I have not done so nor do I care too. I'm just telling you that the elements that originate in non-movie canon will never be acknowledged by the movies, and I do not care if those elements are canonical or not. It makes no difference to me, or the filmmakers that will ignore them.

If you want to prove me wrong show me where Asoka is mentioned in a movie as Vader's apprentice. Or show me someone stating that Darth Maul is still alive. It ain't happening. Show me where something that comes from non-movies has an impact on the story shown in the movies. No of course, this isn't fair since all we have is TFA so far, but with every new Star Wars movie you will die a bit inside as you understand what I'm trying to tell you.

>>67779538
It's just more semantics. Yes, that stuff is canon on paper, but no, they do not impact the movies. Or it's canon in theory but not in practice if you want to get fancy.

>>67779761
You're putting the movies on a pedastal and acting like everything else is unimportant filler.

You think people are reading entire books, and watching The Clone Wars, for filler?

No, because there are great stories being told, and some of it is pretty big stuff too, like the recent events with Vader on Rebels.

You can choose to believe the movies are somehow more important. You can choose to believe that there will be no connection to other things in the movies, even though there already is some smaller things in TFA, and motive from Lucasfilm to have bigger stuff in future movies (especially the spin offs).

Just go your way, and be happy. You can be happy in your bubble of ignoring all the non-movie stuff. Hell, you wont even ever KNOW if there has been a connection to the other stuff, because you dont watch or read any of it.

So please, just go and be happy. Just stop talking about shit you don't know and acting like you somehow know the future.

>>67777301
>literally confirmed that the whole movie is about Vader cleaving his way through Rebel scum
>no force or force users
>the plot leak lacks ending, basically confirming that Felicity Jones character will be saved by someone (and apparently only two people in pre-New Hope era who could go toe to toe with Vader are Ahsoka and Kanan, who is about to become Starkiller)

>>67779947
You can try to disingenuously rephrase what I'm saying as many times as you want and justify your habits as much as you want to. I don't care why you watch cartoons. There is no reason to get so defensive and emotional over this.

After Rogue One, we'll see who was right.

>this one absolutely hilariously pathetic manchild literally shitting his pants that a live action movie might mention something from EU
holy shit

>>67779179
Could very easily just be cybernetic eyes, like Captain Wolffe from SWTCW

>>67780538
I do love how defensive EUfags get over their fan fiction.