>"You have no proof Snoke is Plagueis!" >Yfw

>>64568311
>Snoke is wise
checkmate atheists

>>64568311
i dont care as long as Luke fight him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bUu0o_KOpA

>>64568311

Disney is baiting you autistic retards.

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>JJ even had to steal pre-Palpatine

Why exactly is the new movie seen as better than the prequels again?

>>64568604
Because the prequels are hot garbage and it served as a reminder that Lucas cannot write dialogue to save his fat fucking face.

Natalie Portman was alright but it's painful to watch her deal with some of the material.

>>64568792
But TFA is hot garbage too.

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>>64568311
Nice catch OP, people usually don't pay much attention to music, yet it's often part of the storytelling as much as what's actually going on onscreen.

I definitely support the theory Snoke might be Plagueis, but it really comes down to whether the new films take the prequels into account or not.

Also, what if Snoke isn't actually a hologram, but a force ghost ? If Sidious really did kill him but he was also the first to find the path to immortality even before Yoda and Obiwan, it would make sense he's been a force ghost ever since.

>>64568837
*tips*

>>64568837
But its hot garbage with good dialogue, decent actors and good cgi and practical effects. Its the exact opposite of the prequels in exchange for having no story ;_;

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>>64568792
>prequels
>garbage

Get a load of this pleb

>>64570487
>but it really comes down to whether the new films take the prequels into account or not.
They definitely do, JJ brought McGregor back to record a few lines for Rey's vision.

>>64570487
I couldn't hear the music. He should've pushed williams to make better music. I dont know what happened, but it was extremely weak.

>the decent one

>>64571879

JJ said there was no way he was directing John Williams, so Williams just kind of did what he thought was best.

Lucas was always heavily involved with the sound side of his films. Even the sound effects in TFA sound kind of weak and muted

The way he pronounces "Skywalker" Is the same way palp says it

>>64570487
that scar could be from the assassination attempt. Alternatively he's a holocron consciousness

>>64571934

I must object. The sound design on this movie was fantastic.

>>64570487
Looks like Freddy from the Elm Street remake.

>>64571984
the sounds were fucking atrocious

whoever did the beeps for bb8 should be fucking shot in the face, it was so offbase from every other instance of droid beeps

>>64568311
Well that concludes it.

>>64571814
>79%
>not garbage

>>64571984

What sound design? BB-8 wasn't bad but everything else was just old Star Wars, mixed quietly, with a nonexistent score

Except for the Xwing blasters making some quiet "fweefweefweefweefwee" noise

>>64571814
The Force Awakens has a higher tomatometer than all of the prequels.

>>64571814
>a bit uneven

PREQUELS BTFO

>>64570487
Him being a ghost would honestly make sense since he doesn't at all look like the usual Star Wars hologram.

>>64572113

Yeah, but that's Disney hype money

What was the last MCU movie that was below 90

>>64572081

YOU'RE garbage

>>64572113
that's the thing. with the exception of episode 2, the prequels were good movies. they just weren't great. and that wasn't enough for the vast majority of people.

>>64568311
... it's taken you this fucking long to note the similarities between those pieces of music?
Jesus, dude.
It's obviously Plageuis, the leitmotif shows that. Why are people still acting like this is news?

Yeah, Serkis says it's not, but that'll be some "certain-point-of-view" nonsense stemming from Plageuis abandoning the ways of the Sith.

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>>64568311
http://whatculture.com/film/12-reasons-star-wars-the-force-awakens-is-a-disappointment.php

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/40-unforgivable-plot-holes-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens_b_8850324.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNAy7yCMyBw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8hQVlRgFlU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDjXJqdXD-I&feature=youtu.be&t=39m26s

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>>64572267
>tfw Plagueis figured out immortality after all and is now a Dark Side Force wraith
>when sheev struck him down, Plagueis became more powerful than sheev could possibly imagine

>>64571814

79 > 94?

>>64568311
John Williams loves to reuse themes. It's not like he has any fucking clue what going to happen in VIII. No one does yet.

>>64568311
>implying it's Plagueis
>when snokein fact is an ancient evil, who covertly turned one of Luke's closest apprentices to the dark side right under the noses of everyone

He's Exar Kun, stupid.

>>64572277
>What was the last MCU movie that was below 90
Ant-Man - 80%
Avengers: Age of Ultron - 74%

>>64572507
>Ultron at 74%
>ROTS confirmed better

Capeshit BTFO

>>64571814
>Backing up your opinion with other people opinions
Worthless fuck

>>64572299
>the prequels were good movies
They weren't, senpai. Episode 1 is full of childish humor, terrible dialogue, wooden performances and it's an unnecessary movie. You can watch Episode 2 without having seen 1 and you wouldn't have missed anything. Episode 3 is definitely a lot better than the other prequels but it's also marred by terrible dialogue and wooden performances. Plus the special effects in all of the prequels have aged like milk.

>>64568311
Holy shit this song is fantastic. Too bad I couldn't hear it over the loud fucking dialogue

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>>64572626
>i watched the plinkett video like 10 times

>>64572651
>Plus the special effects in all of the prequels have aged like milk.

True, but oh man, I just watched the LOTR trilogy again and holy shit the special effects in the first have aged even worse.

>prequel special editions when

Based on that Opera scene, is Sheev Anakin's "father"? Sheev used the midichlorians to impregnate Shmi and give birth to Anakin?

>>64572762
Wut?

>>64572299
I can understand liking Revenge of the Sith but The Phantom Menace is inexcusably bad. The pace is as slow as a snail, the political talks are extremely dull, some of the dialogue is so bad it's laughable, everyone delivers a terrible performance thanks to George's terrible script and direction, Darth Maul is a ridiculously overrated non-character, Jar Jar is one of the unfunniest characters of all time and Anakin is a flaming Mary Sue. The only redeeming part of the movie is the score.

>>64572794
Bullshit. LOTR has aged like a fine wine.

>>64572794
The CGI has aged badly but the vast majority of the practical effects still look amazing.

>>64572942
God fucking dammit. Anyone that uses the term "Mary Sue" is fucking dead to me. Your opinion doesn't mean shit to me if you use that term.

>>64573017
Sue Mary

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>>64572942

The editing in TPM is bad, but that's Lucas getting back in the chair after 15 years away from it. His rust was definitely showing.

And he couldn't recut it because everything had to fit into his ring composition

>>64573017
Well damn, how is he gonna get by in life now that his opinion is disregarded by some /tv/ sperg?

>>64573069
Holy shit. This explains why I don't like Return of the Jedi.

>>64573069
Image is a huge stretch

>>64570487
Considering how the thing that made Plagueis special was that he knew how to create life through the force, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to suppose his force ghost could reanimate his own body after being assassinated.

>>64570487

Force ghosts come with their own chairs now? And he says "bring him/her to me" multiple times, implying that he actually exists somewhere for them to be brought to.

>>64572046
>>64571934
your theater has shit sound confirmed

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>>64573152

How about the opening sequence from both movies

>Vader's shuttle flies right to left
>Jedi ship flies left to right
>spherical bad guy ship
>Vader's shuttle lands with a high-angle shot from the right
>Jedi ship lands with a low-angle shot from the left

Literal pottery

>>64573313
how does cherrypicking scenes make the prequels good

>>64573366
Lucas will tell you all about poetry if you are willing to listen. He did this on purpose, you dingus.

It's confirmed Snoke is NOT a Sith.

http://overmental.com/content/star-wars-the-force-awakens-is-supreme-leader-snoke-a-sith-39207
http://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/jj-abrams-spills-details-kylo-ren/

This obviously means he is NOT Darth Plagueis.

>>64568311
and they kept playing binary sunset for any time Rey queefs. ur point?

>>64573290
by me he could mean his corpse, like hes a lich or something

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>>64573366
>cherrypicking

It's stuff that happens literally at the same time in both movies, but flipped in the prequel

>>64573409
>it's confirmed John Harrison is NOT Khan.

Don't believe JJ's Jish lies

snoke is a plagueis fanboy just like how kylo is a vader fanboy

its like poetry

>>64568311
The song is called "Palpatine's teachings." At this point it's more or less "corruption theme." The same theme plays multiple times during the movie, including when Anakin is fucking up jedi.

I honestly feel bad for the Plagueis people. It takes a lot of autism to think that Disney is running at 3 year long conspiracy cover up of a character nobody knows and nobody would care about. It takes a lot of self delusion to think that Disney cares about a minor and irrelevant character like Plagueis, and takes even more to think they would hide him from the public.

Oh well, only 3 more years until people finally realize Snoke is an OC character.

Same song plays 10 other times in ep 3. Nice cherry picking though faggot

>>64573466
>Kahn, the most famous Star Trek villain from the most critically acclaimed Star Trek film that saved the Star Trek franchise in a quasi Wrath of Kahn remake
>is totally comparable to throwaway line about an obscure character, that the creator and director considered irrelevant to the plot of Star Wars, only known to the most autistic of neckbeards

How does this even happen? I don't even.

>>64573497

oh god

>Kylo is a Vader fanboy
>kills a lot of people and then gets rekt by the first untrained Force user who comes along
>Snoke is a Plagueis fanboy
>causes untold death until Luke Skywalker shows up and slaps Snoke's shit mercilessly

>>64573619

I'm just saying JJ lies about stuff because muh mystery

>>64573466
Good point. However, I still think it makes more sense that Snoke is a new guy. I mean, they have made no reference to the bad guys being Sith in this film.

>>64573771

He'll be Palpatine, just wait

If he wasn't supposed to be before, he will be now that The Reference Awakens is the #1 movie in the world

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>>64573870
Sheev does it again!

>>64573771

Technically, there shouldn't be any more sith, right? That whole deal about "there's always one master and one apprentice." The master and apprentice both died at the end of RoTJ, so where would a new sith have come from?

>>64573915
That's why I think it makes no sense for them to still be around. Also, the whole prophecy thing about Anakin being the chosen one that would defeat the Sith was supposedly confirmed when Vader killed Sheev.

>>64573915

Plagueis has transcended dogma and now is a living avatar of the Dark Side

>>64573915
Right, the Sith are gone. Anyone who wants Plagueis actually wants a huge retcon that shits all over the other six films.

But then Plagueis people don't seem to be very good at thinking rationally in the first place.

>>64574034
anakin would bring balance to the force. that doesnt mean defeat the sith.

>>64568311
Why does the dark side transform some users into creepy, demonic looking things and not others? And why doesn't the light side in turn give benefits like elongated youth?

>>64574464
That's exactly what it means.

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>>64573069
>There's one of these for every film
>Films in a series have similarities
>People think this is relevant

>>64574464
>>64574565

>pre Empire: hundreds of Jedi, handful of Sith
>Empire: handful of Jedi, handful of Sith

sounds balanced to me

>>64575326
Complain to Lucas if you don't like the semantics. He meant balanced as is healthy body maintaining homeostasis. The Sith are cancer, and Anakin brought balance to the galaxy by wiping out the cancer of the Sith from the force.

Either way, the Sith are gone form Star Wars.

>>64575597
Except dark side users are an unbalancing cancer on the force, whether they call themselves Sith or not. No matter what, the sequels have already trashed the whole prophecy, although the EU had already done that anyway. I suppose you could say Anakin fucked it all up too much to actually fulfil the prophecy properly.

tldr; calling them Sith doesn't ruin the prophecy, its already ruined

>>64570487
I was so disappointed to find out that this guy was only like seven feet tall rather than sixty.

>>64568508
Disney just don't care. The entire plot was used in children's books years prior, as were the names and roles of villains in toylines. Withholding storyline details from the soundtrack is too much care and effort for modern Disney.

>>64568311
Who is Plagueis? They didn't have this one in the Gameboy version

>>64570487
>f Sidious really did kill him but he was also the first to find the path to immortality even before Yoda and Obiwan, it would make sense he's been a force ghost ever since.

That would be kinda shit in my opinion, since it invalidates the notion that the light was the only true path to immortality.

>>64573431

It's amazing how shit like this goes by unnoticed and also does absolutely nothing to improve the shit story, writing and performances of the prequels.

Also, Lucas didn't edit any of these so don't give him credit there.

>SKYWALKER FIGHTING THE CREATOR OF HIS FATHER AND BY EXTENSION HIM

P
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>>64575785
>Except dark side users are an unbalancing cancer on the force, whether they call themselves Sith or not.

Not according to the creator of Star Wars. It's the Sith that are unbalancing themselves, not just any darksiders.

>No matter what, the sequels have already trashed the whole prophecy
Not until any Sith appears, which they won't, so it's fine.

>>64568508
you would probably use that same argument for Rey not being a Skywalker but admit it senpai its just lazy writing. This is Star Wars. If the entire series came out in order (the way Lucas apparently wanted to) everybody would have known Vader is Luke's father. You're reading into it too deep because as someone watching this new "reboot"-esque trilogy you assume everybody must be new. Like honestly, who the fuck else could Snoke be if not Plaguise or an entirely new character? And if he IS an entirely new character he better have an interesting as fuck back story otherwise he'll seem like just Sheev 2.0

>>64576505
The only one who talks about the Chosen One in terms of specifically destroying the sith is Obi-Wan, who was shown to be extremely caught up in Jedi philosophy, rarely seeing the bigger picture.

Regardless, it doesn't make any sense that dark side users only corrupt the force when they decide to call themselves a four letter galactic basic word, not when they use the force to massacre innocent.

>>64576671
I don't really care myself for the explanation, but for whatever reason, the Sith are unique in their perversion of the force according to Lucas. Regular Darkside users just don't know how to piss the force off it seems. Apparently no one triggers the Force like the Sith do. Although that kind of stuff is only explored in the EU.

>>64568455
Dear fucking GOD what happens to Anakin's face at 1:30

>>64571857
No he didn't

>>64576745
Has Lucas said anything to that effect, or are you talking about Obi-Wans lines in ROTS?

>>64570487
Snoke almost has a catlike appearance. Am I the only one who thinks this?

>>64576779
He's even in the credits, anon

>>64576798
Lucas.

>>64572317
Pottery.

>>64577442
Do you mind posting one? I can find none that explicitly state this.

>>64572317
>Plagueis became more powerful than sheev could possibly imagine

I could see them re-using that line, honestly

>>64576653
>If the entire series came out in order (the way Lucas apparently wanted to)
lol

Plagueis is a stupid, shitty name,

>>64571795
>But its hot garbage with good dialogue
"YER HAN SOLO! AND THIS IS THE MILLENIUM FALCON!"

>decent actors
Carrie Fisher's whole performance

>and good cgi
Death of Han Solo

>and practical effects
every alien costume has less textures than an Unreal video game.

Prequels were better in every regard, we're just too close to the hype that people haven't seen through the shit yet.

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>>64568311
The Plagius theory needs to be true. Disnet cant just pull villians out of their ass. It would be a good reason o why Luke never restored balance

>>64576779
yes he did

>>64573409

>sheev 'kills' Snoke
>snoke is pissed and abandons the Sith mentality

>>64575926
>The entire plot was used in children's books years prior
Wait what

>>64576653
>If the entire series came out in order (the way Lucas apparently wanted to)
We have extremely early treatments of IV and at no point did it resemble I.

>>64578494
>dark father
>dark warhammer
>dark shit
>dark unnoticeably harmful
All the Sith names are shit.

>>64573431
mfw maul dies and appears only in the end of the movie because that's exactly what happened with emperor
FUCK

>>64572794
>I just watched the LOTR trilogy again and holy shit the special effects in the first have aged even worse
Not sure if this is true, but LotR was vastly less reliant on CGI than the prequels, where a minimum of ten stupid CGI things are stuffed into pretty much every shot.

>>64582066
The only CGI I remember are the trolls and Gollum.

>>64576753
There was a thread on reddit explaining this, Lucas uses several takes-specific words to compile into a single sentence/scene. That's why Ani's face morphs weirdly, cause it was different takes. Weird as fuck.