Doctor Who General - /who/

>>61647634
the rock intro was GOAT, was this just a one time thing or is it the new theme ?

>>61647835
just one time I think
oh well

>>61647835
one time probably

>>61647835
Probably just a one-off. BBC website has it down "as used in Before the Flood".

>>61649538
I'm not denying that it was a cool scene, but it's obvious that there was an agenda behind it.

>>61647835
no it wasn't dont be gay

Anything come from the rumour of Tennant and RTD being in Wales this August?

>>61647634
Reminder that Maisie Williams Show will be 50 minutes long
I'm so sad that Odin is not played by Brian Blessed as they wanted initially

I think its great that people like matrixlord212 exist on the youtube surveys. most doctor who fans nowadays are nihilists so its nice to see a christian poet making doctor who podcasts.
before the lake was a good episode. i want to fuck o'donnell. but shes dead so i cant which is a bit sad.
7/10

>>61649608
matrixlord212 takes it up the bum bum

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>>61649597
RTD is making a movie based off A Midsummer Night's Dream and Tennant was going to direct but he isn't anymore.
That's it.

Who was the most fedora Doctor?
I'd say 8 or 12.

Reposting in new thread

So, I've seen some theories about the War Minister, and I'm just thinking, could it be a new character that represents a race the Doctor has never faced as a true major adversary? The human race.

Seriously, think about it, someone manipulates the Doctors favourite race to declare war on the Doctor for some reason or another. That's something worth at least a season or two to explore.

>>61649597
Tennant's directing RTD's adaption of Midsummer Night's Dream.

>>61649608
ikr

>>61649647
not anymore

>>61649646
I like that idea.

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clala i'm dying
no really clala
i'm dying this time
clala halp
clala

>>61649630
Cass is so sexy. 10/10 would lick her face.

>>61649593
>but it's obvious that there was an agenda behind it.
The deaf agenda?

>>61649646
Literally nothing to add to this, but it's a cool theory nonetheless.

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>>61649640
We already have the answer

>>61649640
Fedora

Atheist or MRA?

Atheist = 7th

MRA = 3rd

>>61649646
How are they going to wage war on him then? He can just stay in the Tardis in a different century til he figures out how to reverse everything.

>>61649666
satan trips confirm

OMFG!!
Just noticed something pretty major.
The new roundels in the TARDIS are actually film cans.
Is this a hint from Phil Morris?
Hidden in plain sight?

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>ywn oppress the moleman
why live?

>>61649690
>if i just keep ridiculing no-one will know how shit at debate i am

Okay, so here is what happens in the finale. Do not read that because I'm spoiling the entire plot.

The episode starts with the Doctor finding Gallifrey. He finds out Missy is now the President and Daleks/Time Lords hybrids are the new Lords of Time - this is the Heaven Sent cliffhanger. Short story is Ashildr is a Time Lord/Dalek hybrid, she is the Minister of War on Gallifrey and she's ready to make war against the entire universe. The Doctor finds Clara on Gallifrey, except she's been made part Time Lord too just to see if Humans could be good hosts. They end up saving Ashildr from Davros and Missy in the past and send her through the time crack, to Gallifrey and the Time Lords before they start creating hybrids so they realise there is no use to live as Time Lords/Daleks hybrids. Basically, she is an anomaly in the Time Lords/Daleks hybrids that Missy and Davros created but she escaped, so if they can send her to the Time Lords before Missy sends the hybrid Ashildr, she can save everything. Hybrids are being created so they can get out of the crack, acting as beacons in the universe so the Time Lords can be pulled out of the pocket back into the universe. Except it's a one way trip, and there's no going back. Clara has to go with her because only Time Lords on Gallifrey have the ability to save her, as she's now a Human/Time Lord hybrid and the Doctor can't save her otherwise she'll die. The Doctor can't come with them because he still needs to protect the universe and he thinks he'll find her again when he finds Gallifrey. They go and Clara mouths "I love you" before stepping in the crack, which closes just after. Time is rewritten. The TARDIS materialises at a restaurant because she knows the Doctor is at grief, and the Doctor meets a Clara splinter. The episode ends as the camera moves away from the exterior of the restaurant as the Doctor goes on about his Clara. The credits cut like last year and River pops in, "Hello Sweetie". End.

I fucking loved season 6, episodes 1 & 2 we're banging. Season 7 was decent but started to get a bit whack. Season 8 was full on nope and I dropped that shit instantly

Season 9 gud?

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Some really nice shots in this ep

>>61649727
>>if i just keep ridiculing no-one will know how shit at debate i am
What? No really what or whose agenda was behind the deaf girl?

>>61649743
nice fanfic

>>61649727
This, fucking subhuman deaf cunts need to know their place. So sick of this liberal bullshit being forced down our necks via the BBC. This country is going to the dogs.

Where the fuck is the stream or episode uploaded?

>>61649770
go to bed nan

>>61649774
iPlayer, right now. If it isn't up yet you can just watch live and rewind a bit.

>>61649743
gr8 b8 m8

>>61649751
It's nothing like Series 8 if that helps.

>>61649774
why don't you learn to fucking search for it like everyone else you degenerate.

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>>61649756

>>61649743
If true, this should be interesting.

>>61649743
At least you took the time.

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>>61649751
>i fucking loved season 6
>banging
blasphemy

>>61649751
>Season 8 was full on nope and I dropped that shit instantly
Why? It was pretty good once you get used to The Doctor, but he was a bit annoying at first.

A poor opener didn't help

>>61649743
Too convoluted even for Moffatt. Audience will go to sleep.

>>61649751
>season 6
Literally the biggest drop in quality across a single season in all of NuWho. Started off potentially GOAT, shat the bed with A Good Man and Let's Kill Hitler, and had the worst cop-out of a finale. The God Complex was the only reason I kept watching.

>>61649595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_oDOYbrHYI

b-but it was great ;_;

>>61649813
Maybe I'm being a bit slow but I don't understand how that answers my question?

Just youtubed matrixlord212
i can't stop laughing
literally
my sides
they are gone
help me /who/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T-jKtJyP8g

>>61649806
how's it compare to 6?

>>61649828
u got a problem m8

>>61649807
Because Fuck Offerino, that's why!

>>61649842
>lets kill hitler
oh phuck i forgot about that

>>61649842
The girl who waited was pretty great too

>>61649855
The BBC have to stick disabled/ethnics in all their shows or their Jew masters will replace them.

>>61649841
>Too convoluted

Then just have the Doctor break the 4th Wall at the beginning of the episode to explain

>>61649842
the quality drop in S2 compared to S1 was pretty awful

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>>61649666
You're a Glaswegian male, Doctor, you were born dying.

>>61649868
>how's it compare to 6?
It's a lot more in tone with Series 6/7 as Series 8 felt very down to Earth.

I'm totally new to Dr Who so started the new series yesterday. I just finished World War Three and it has been interesting.

What should I expect with the rest of the series and Doctors?

So when will Whithouse take over?

>>61649872
Jesus fucking christ you are a worthless cunt.

>>61649864
He has lovely full breasts.

>>61649864
Someone edit the flood in todays Dr Who after he steps in the pool.

>>61649907
It all went to shit after An Unearthly Child m8, just give up now tbh

>>61649907
10: a shit
11: pretty cool guy
12: GOAT

>>61649922
Whithouse rhymes with Shithouse.

>>61649925
POST OR GTFO!

>>61649864
Fuck off Connor.

>>61649907
Eccleston: Crap. Plus he's arrogant irl.
Tennant: Great. Best Doctor.
Smith: Crap. Troughton ripoff.
Capaldi: Ok. A little old. Not as fun.

>>61649907
>I just finished World War Three and it has been interesting.
"Interesting" is the word, yeah. Well the next episode should be good.

The series is very varied and very variable in quality. The NuWho seasons go, from best to worst:
5 > 8 > 4 > 1 > 3 > 6 > 7 > 2

... though everyone will argue with me on that.

>>61649907
Varying quality throughout but always fun

>>61649937
like your house?

>>61649955
>I'm new to Doctor Who

He doesn't know who Troughton is you dumb nigger.

>>61649893
>"Ock racemixing is great! But nae all tha taem liek with Daleks and Lassies!"

>>61649955
top laff I must say

I rewatched Impossible Planet/Satan Pit earlier and just wanted to say I liked Ten and Rose in these episodes.

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>>61649963
This might actually be the list I agree most with. Although I might change arround 8 and 4

>>61649976
I don't care if you're new to Doctor Who, you should know who Troughton is as he is the second doctor. Ok yes phil morris is hoarding most of his era but come on

>>61649963
I would throw 4 somewhere to the back, even though based Donna, otherwise good good

>>61649968
Toby pls

>>61649922
When he kills Moffat.

Being showrunner is like highlander, there can be only one. It's why we've never seen RTD since he left.

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>>61649993

5 >> 4 >>>>>> 7 >>> 6 > 8 >>>>> 3 >>>>>> 1 >>>>>>>>>> 2

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>>61649925

I am seriously feeling genuinely shitty whenever I watch this show now.

all the gorgeous women go to indian / black guys.

Being a lonely virgin this is like rubbing salt in a wound.

>>61649983
u f**king what

>>61649743
B O L L O C K S

But if true sounds like they're leaving the door open for future Clara appearances

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>>61650036
It's ok m8 in real life the only women that go for them look like this

>>61650027
>7 and 6 above 8
GTFO

>>61649942
>>61650028
wah fucking wah get fucked.

>>61649963
>>61650027
4 is fairly strong overall until you get to the finale which was the biggest shitshow of the revived series.

>>61650023
>It's why we've never seen RTD since he left.
>What is the last two series of SJA?
>What is Miracle Day?
>What is Wizards vs Aliens?
>What is that random-name show on Channel 4, Banana or some shit?

>>61650079
Yeah. RIP Donna's characterisation.

>>61650067
WHY THE FUCK DO WOMEN GET TATTOOS ON THEIR FUCKING TITIES? ARGH!

>>61650079
bringing rose back was the worst idea ever

>>61650067
Thanks anon, I feel a little better now.

So what was Missy doing during this episode?

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>>61650084
>Banana or some shit

>>61650084
Thats just the BBC using RTD's good name

>>61650112
being amazing and, sadly, offscreen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHpra85tMoc

>>61649963
>>61650027
4>5>8>3>7>2>1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anything>6

>>61650112
Fucking Davros to make that Dalek/TL hybrid that will turn out to be the War Minister to the surprise of no one.

>>61650084
All written in advance, can you imagine if it were known that to become showrunner of Doctor Who you had to fight and decapitate the current showrunner with a sword? Think of the headlines.

>>61650077
fuck u m9

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>>61650028

>>61650148
Who did RTD kill? JNT?

>>61650137
Episodes of Series 6 are often quite good. The series arc just gets driven into the ground.

"Beginning of the End" plays when the Doctor goes in the restaurant to meet Waitress!Clara. Don't ask.

>>61650183
nope matthew jacobs already killed JNT
RTD killed matthew jacobs

>>61650194
gr8 b8 ,8

>>61650188
>good used in same sentence as series 6
try again fag

Ratings are the lowest they've been since the 80's one. Bye bye Who!

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>>61650194
Does the Doctor shag Waitress!Clara?

>>61650244
>le overnights
go to bed rusty

>>61650000
I remember that the time i decided to start watching Doctor Who i was really confused about how the main actor works, because i've seen his different faces on the internet.
So i didnt knew what was going on, and when Tennant maked his appereance i thought "This isnt the other guy".
Because the episode who maked me want watch Doctor Who was The Doctor's Wife, and i, even if by searching on google you always find something who is releted to the old Doctors, had no idea who the hell Tennant was.
I was also sure the Doctor was human before i started season 1.

What were your first impressions on the Doctor, /who/?

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>>61650244
>Capaldi will forever be associated with the show's cancellation
>he's just McCoy MkII

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>>61650262
>So i didnt knew what was going on, and when Tennant maked his appereance i thought "This isnt the other guy".

So wait

Did the paki commit suicide in the end?

>>61650262
the doctor is half human, he said so in the tv movie starring an actor called paul mcgann who is often regarded as the worst doctor because he is the only doctor to copulate with his companion.

>>61650262
I started with the TV movie, which had a regeneration, so I got it from the get go

>>61650304
sure, why not.

>>61650262
I was about 5 and Colin Baker was shouting at Davros

3 > 1 > 9 so far > 8 > 4 > 5 > 2 > 7 > 6

I started with 1 then stopped watching pretty much entirely after 4 and the specials. Binge watched all of Matt Smith's recently and didn't really like it overall but some episodes stuck out. 5 was my favourite season his. I liked 8 quite a bit and enjoy Capaldi a lot. I also want to say that I'm glad the beginning monologue was used in this episode because I loved how it was used in Listen but was disappointed when it didn't show up again.

Good episode, improved on an already solid first part.
The story overall might be a 7/10 or even an 8.
However, one small thing puzzles me.
What was the reason for the explaination of the bootstrap paradox? It's a plot device that the show has been using for a long time (arguably since Series 1, for sure since Series 3), and it's not like this episode explores it in any new significant ways. Why does it need explaining now?
I mean, don't get me wrong, a Capaldi monologue is always a good thing. But this is a concept that anybody who has been following Doctor Who for a decent amount of time understands perfectly, and the way the future influences the past is already spelled out for new viewers in the episode. What was the point?

>>61650337
>What was the point?
fun

>>61650337
>What was the reason for the explaination of the bootstrap paradox?
They know Americans watch it these days.

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>>61650332
Oh Lord that rating is so wrong I can't even.

>>61650337
>What was the point?
Because it was a great scene.

>>61650337
I'm not sure why they did it either, but I'm not complaining. I loved that scene.

>>61650364
What's wrong with it?

>>61650337
Because Doctor Who partly is the kind of show people jump straight into, especially kids. Which is way explaining these kind of thing can be useful

>>61650262
I was 13 and started with Rose. I didn't really know anything about it other than the Daleks. I'd get confused between Doctor Who & Star Wars.

>>61650364
Oh my, an unpopular opinion. KILL IT WITH FIRE!

>>61650332
>tfw i half agree with this

did anyone else notice that the doctor did explain why the ghosts only came out at night but when he did we didn't see him actually say it, It was a voice over.

it's like they forgot and they added in post, is it me or does this seems too clumsy for the BBC's flag show.

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>>61650332
>3 > 1 > 9 so far > 8 > 4 > 5 > 2 > 7 > 6
>5 and 7 so low
>3 and 1 so high
>6 being last instead of 2
>8 better than 4

>>61650349
>>61650358
>>61650366
>>61650371
>>61650391


They've literally done this story lots of times before. And they've NEVER had an explanation like that. A whole 5 minutes dedicated to explain a simple paradox.

https://youtu.be/4I76p1cZbq4?t=5m42s


They only reason why they are pointing it out is that they now know only children are watching this show. Look at the ratings. They are falling hard

>>61650332
1 = 8 > 2 = 5 > 3 > 4 = 6 = 9 (so far) > 7.

All specials somewhere around 6/7, except Waters of Mars. The End of Time special all the way at the end. Worst Doctor Who has ever been.

All in all, Classic Doctor Who had a way better first decade.

>>61650419
This kind of thing happens in all shows all the time, you've probably just never noticed it before.

>>61650337
Moffat told him to put it in as he was worried the audience might be confused by such a complicated idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfLbaovnp08

So every time we see the Doctor dead for real, we should just assume it's a hologram, robot, morphing spaceship, flesh avatar etc?
Aside from the bootstrap paradox there was no real timey-wimey shit happening and no threat to causality in any way.

>>61650439
8 is better than 4 though

>>61650440
I cant help but feel it could've been explained better in the actual show, e.g. showing the Doctor program the hologram on screen via flashback

5 > 4 > 7 > 6 > 8 > 3 > 2 > 1

I can't wait for the doctor to be young again. Seriously, where's the charisma gone? You can tell the BBC want a young doctor because of the sonic sunglasses and hoodie. Trying to force a young personality upon an old doctor. Capaldi is written all wrong. It's cringey. I want him to be written like Pertwee because he's a good actor.
The BBC obviously want a teenager to be the doctor. this was evidenced by the rock theme. I'm also hearing reports there's a dubstep theme for the woman who lived which is utter ridiculous.

>>61650337
I thought they were going go to more in-depth with it. As in, the Doctor realises that it's not enough to simply save everybody, but he has to do it in such a way that he sets up a stable loop and everybody is still saved in the next iteration, and so on.

But that didn't happen so I guess it's just exposition.

>>61650516
gr8 b8 m8

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>>61650245
Yes. Up the bum, over the counter. That's why this series is on later.

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>the Silurians will never be this scary again
>instead we have a lesbian Silurian who loves a human

>>61650503
Cwap cwap cwap.

>>61650472
Oh fuck off

Moffat loves making over-complicated plots just to show off how clever he is

>>61650548
>silurians
>scary

>Just seen the Doctor earlier. Praised you from start to finish. You could be nominated as best newcomer.
>Really?
>No. Sorry, it's the Doctor were talking about. You might as well get used to it right away.

This would be Clara talking to a potential new companion. Is it good, /who/?

>>61650467
this might sound a bit plebby but when I started watching internet critics I did notice this sort of stuff. edits, angles, actors marks etc.

>>61650516
>young people
>charisma

>>61650506
The hologram was showed in the first part, used in the second, same as the suspended animation box.
The clues was there from the start, not even so hidden.
Really, the only true mistery of the episode was what the ghost are.

>>61650564
idunno

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>yfw the page for Before the Flood still hasn't even been created on Autism Data Core.

Man, fuck their spolier policy. At least you can get news for all upcoming stuff on Wookieepedia.

Why did they show the King in broad daylight? Costume was pretty good in the warehouse, but it just didn't hold up outside.

It was foreshadowed in the episode that Capaldi's Doctor will regenerate with the person AFTER Clara.
Who is the next companion? Shona? Cara Delevingne? Maddy Hill? Will O'Donnell return?

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>>61650538
Leaked pic from the finale, he's nutted but she's still suckin.

>>61650605
A gay guy and his sister. Moffat himself hinted at them.

>>61650605
Sally Sparrow tbh

>>61650419
ADR
they probably only came up with that line later, to make things absolutely explicit
or maybe it was intentionally done that way, so the visuals could draw you directly into the action afterwards
many possible reasons for doing it

>>61650605
gr8 b8 m8

>>61650634
Too big of an actor now

>>61650640
How is speculation in anyway 'b8'

>>61650632
gr8 b8 m8

>>61650628
clala
stop

>>61650640
YES! Great choice, she's a wonderful actress. So much gravitas.

>>61650516
not sure if bait but it is a problem Moffat has, he writes the Doctors all the same, he's said so in panels, (no citation, I'm afraid).

He also tends to write the Doctor like a parody of the doctor, remember the robotic squirrel from last week?

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>>61650439
>2 is worse than 6

>>61650686
so much gr8vitas

Next companion is that cara delevingne girl and anyone who tries to counter this is a jazz hands denier. also will missy have sex with davros to create the Timeleks? comment below.

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>>61650472
>Moffat
>the guy who wrote Blink, Forest of the Dead, The Big Bang, The Impossible Astronaut and Listen
Why did he suddenly decide that the bootstrap paradox needed explaination?

I'm so fucking fed up of UNIT

Deaf girl would make a better companion than Clara if she stopped being deaf, that gimmick would wear out fast.

>>61650668
http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/608671/Doctor-Who-Steven-Moffat-Jenna-Coleman-Peter-Capaldi-Tardis

>>61650601
Pulp analingus: you can't beat a horse to run backward, but you *can* find eternity up your own ass. Where the set's flaccid, the fan trans-penises are hardest.

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>>61650693
>DUDE I'M OLD MATT SMITH LMAO is better than 6

Here's what I'm betting:

*Maisie/Ashildr is the War Minister.
*She doesn't seem to get along with the Doctor, so she'll join forces with the Master.
*She will fuck up Gallifrey/Earth.
*The Doctor will fix everything but lose Clara.
*Clara won't die. She'll be stuck in another universe or timeline or some shit that she can never return from, except for in a couple of years when she makes a nostalgia reappearance.

OMFG GUYS I'VE JUST FINISHED THE EPISODE.

FUCK THAT BASED OPENING MONOLOGUE, THAT GOAT BASED GUITAR INTRO THAT BASED DOCTOR CONFRONTING HIS OWN GHOST, THAT BASED FISHER KING, THAT BASED FUCKING ATMOSPHERE, THAT ABSED DOCTOR GETTING CALLED THE FUCK OUT FOR LETTING PEOPLE DIE, THAT BASED TENSION AS THE AXE GHOST STALKED AND OH MY FUCKING GOD THAT BASED SHRUG AT THE CAMERA AT THE END OF THE EPISODE.

12/10 BASED EPISODE AND POSSIBLY THE BEST 2 PARTER IN NUWHO THE HYPE WAS FUCKING REAL THANKYOU

>>61650745
Well that's not going to happen because she's deaf in real life.

>>61650757
we already know who she is from the book leak

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>>61650727
>they're just a boring ass military organisation without Brig

>>61650761
Nice

>>61650726
Why did he suddenly decide that DW needed a Fisher King? Why did he decide to use an abandoned fake soviet town as a setting when Listen didn't have one? It's a different episode, things are different, that's the whole fucking point.

>>61650605
Sophia Myles

Fuck the rules of Time, I want Madame de Pompadour back. And the actress hasn't been in anything in a while so not too big.

>>61650727
They're the new Torchwood. We'll be sick of them before the end of the series.

>>61650757
>>61649743

>>61650552
>>61650726
>Missing the point this hard

>>61650691
Clockwork squirrel, and i think it is going to make an apparence, since Jemma, before the episode aired, talked about it at Conan, saying that it is one of the prop she took from the set before leaving.

>>61650778
Fucking deaf cunts always ruining everything.

>>61650812
It was on the amp at the beginning of todays ep

>>61650691
you misunderstood him

>>61650812
The squirrel was on the bass in the pre titles scene.

>>61650799
nobody cares about your shitty fanfiction

>>61650757
This: >>61650781

It is a really bad spoiler, so i suggest you to not search it.

Anyway, why suddendly everyone are so obsessed with the War Minister? Is something from the books?

Did anybody else feel that the characters were almost literally interchangable?

>awkward asian guy with shorter stronk white female
>awkward asian guy with shorter stronk white female (who is deaf)

Why couldn't we have one of those guys killed at the start and the captain as a full character?

I'm really pissed Colin McFarlane had a major role in this episode because I would've liked to have seen him as The Doctor one day.

Nobody spotted the Magpie logo on the amp?

>>61650875
The War Minister is someone that got mentioned in today's ep. Nothing known yet. But we're speculating anyway.

>DISSEMINATION OF DOCTOR'S NAME, SUBSEQUENT RESURRECTION IS LAUGHABLE.
>"DYING" EACH WEEK FOR THE SINS OF HIS COMPANIONS IS SOMEHOW ACCEPTABLE.

>>61650781
sauce

>>61650785
Brig was boring ass military man

>>61650841
he thought he was forcing a yougn personality on an older Doctor.

I was saying why, Moffat writes all the doctors the same, having PC be just as hyper and wacky as 10 or 11.

>The Magician's Apprentice / The Witch's Familiar
>Have Arthurian references, mentions of the Doctor being a magician (hi Merlin), the cup that looks very Holy Grail
>Under the Lake/Before the Flood
>The Fisher King is introduced, from Arthurian mythology

If this isn't getting anywhere I'll be seriously posse off at Moffat. I'm already mad the opener wasn't about the Doctor being Merlin facing a real witch.

>>61650888
So? Peter Capaldi had a major role in Fires of Pompeii and Children of Earth

>>61650875
I was the first one to post it to /who/, you tit. Just because she becomes an immortal Viking warrior grill, doesn't mean that's the extent of her role.

>>61650936
>the Doctor being Merlin facing a real witch.
wut

Capaldi was at his best in Into the Dalek and The Caretaker.
Series 9 Doctor is utter shit so far. He's a Smith clone.

>>61650896
Ok sorry, i watched the episode by streaming, so i lose some piece of it, will watch it again tomorrow

What Doctor Who mug should I get?

>>61650984
I hear The Who Show sell mugs

>>61650978
hes been great so far fuck offerino

>>61650984
You're mug enough.

>hmm, I need to signal my alien army to attack Earth
>should I use the previously-agreed-upon coordinate system any spacefaring species would necessarily use?
>or even just a really loud beacon so they can triangulate it and home in
>no, let's make a bullshit riddle where one of the clues only works from Earth's location and which could be interpreted to point to Christ knows how many places in the universe

>>61651023
That's the impotence of the Fisher King: utter fucking incompetence.

The one thing Moffat can write convincingly.

>>61650888
>Killed within the first two minutes of the first episode and appears for the rest of the two-parter among an army of voiceless ghosts
>major role

Pick one.

>>61650945
Funnily enough Colin McFarlane was in Children of Earth as well, he also voiced the Heavenly Hosts in Voyage of the Damned.

I'm really confused.
Were the ghosts actual ghosts? How does that work?

>>61650888
Colin Baker, Peter Capaldi, Freema Agyeman, Karen Gillian, and Catherine Tate called.

>>61650948
How i was supposed to know that were you? We are anons for a reason.
I haven't said to not speculate, i just suggested to not search for the book spoiler.

>>61651047
>The one thing Moffat can write convincingly.
> Le Moffat wrote each and every script, every other writer is a mass hallucination

>>61651056
They were magic ghosts

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>cool, I finally get to star in a sci-fi tv series, I was getting so sick of this middle ages fantasy cra-
>medieval setting
>GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

Jesus Christ, guys. Of course Maisie is the War Minister. From the OFFICIAL synopses written by Steven Moffat:

In a backwater of history, in a little Viking village where all the warriors have just been slaughtered, a young girl called Ashildr is about to make a desperate mistake. The Mire are the deadliest mercenaries in the galaxy, famed for being unstoppable and without mercy - and Ashildr has just declared war on them.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-09-14/steven-moffats-exclusive-doctor-who-series-nine-episode-guide

We know that she becomes immortal, and based on the trailer, she has a somewhat antagonistic relationship with the Doctor.

Please don't expect anything better than this. Moffat is the same guy who gave us River = Amy's daughter, and Missy = Mistress = Master.

Why didn't the King just build a transmitter?

>>61651113
Looks like she just get out of GoT season 4.

>>61651121
just wait till saturday m8

>>61651047
Is blaming Moffat for episodes he didn't write an epic new may may?

Thanks, Obama!

Get ready for /who/ to be flooded with Game of Thrones fans next week.

>>61651081
"LE" Fuck yourself in the ass Charlie de GAWWWD, he's the officer behind every script - HE HAS THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD IN HIS HANDS.

Davies edited every script bar Moffat's and Moffat edits every script bar Moffat's.

>>61651121
Why are all of Moffat's major villains/anti-heroes sassy, overconfident women? and more importantly, how sticky is his writing area?

>>61651113
Clalalala was in Lord of the Rings?

>>61651180
I'd destroy Clala's ring

>>61650957
The Magician's Apprentice was a totally misleading title.

>>61651151
When the imbecile casts himself showrunner in a COUNTRY WITHOUT SHOWRUNNERS you can't excuse him from anything.

>>61651166
autis

>>61651121
But O'Donnell said whatever The War Minister thing is it happened after 1980.

>>61651206
OTIS - HOW-JE-LAIK YER OPOSSUM?

>>61651126
Cause bad writing.

Same reason he didn't get into the spaceship and fly away when the dam was bursting, or just take it and fly to meet up with his armada. The spaceship isn't even damaged, why the fuck does he need to stay on Earth, beam a signal and get put into suspended animation?

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Ministry of Love and Truth when?

>mfw maisie williams is the war minister
>mfw the weeping angels are disgraced timelords
>mfw maisie williams brings the angels to life
>mfw this is the cliffhanger to episode 11
>mfw heaven sent refers to the angels
>mfw weeping angel invasion
>mfw clara timelord

I want to write a fun story with 12 and Clara but everyone survives in the end. How can I make it not shit?

>>61651298
but we already know that the only actor in heaven set is capaldi

>mfw the jazz hands guy isnt the doctor but the new gay-guy companion
>mfw hes called dave
>mfw shona forgives dave
>mfw dave is shonas sister
>mfw new tardis team

>>61651298
>arya is actually the crack in time and space
>it absorbed so many timey wimey radiations that it became sentient and assumed human form

>>61651298
>Weeping Angel invasion
>not Weeping Angels turned back into Time Lords and wage war on the universe and the weakened Time Lords
>and Doctor meets his mother

>>61651313
He plays a Weeping Angel.

>>61651298
>mfw clara timelord

Maybe she didnt became a TimeLady, but one of the Claras was in Gallifrey, and that part should be still inside of the original, like all the other versions.

>>61651113
>you will never both of them at the same time

>>61651056
The afterlife in the Who-niverse ranges from 'computer simulation' to 'there's nothing but darkness except there's something out there' to 'nothing'.

Clara falls from _____ and dies. It's a parallel to how Victorian Clara died. "Heaven Sent". The clue is in the title.

>>61651318
Hell yeah I love these.

>Doctor Who and his companions - Bennett and Miss O'Donnell

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Still think he could have saved her

>>61651430
Yes he could have but 12 is an asshole.

>>61649963
Why does everyone hate series 2
>New Earth 4/10
>Tooth and Claw 8/10
>School Reunion 6/10
>Girl in the Fireplace 9/10
>Rise of the Cybermen 5/10
>Age of Steel 6/10
>Idiots Lantern 3/10
>Impossible Planet 8/10
>Satan Pit 7/10
>Love and Monsters 2/10
>Fear Her 2/10
>Army of Ghosts 4/10
>Doomsday 6/10
overall 70/130
>series 2 5.3/10

>Heaven Sent
>Hell Bent

I'm guessing the episode is about some Lucifer type deal, involving a fall from grace (Heaven Sent), and reveling in the darkness and chaos (Hell bent).

Better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven

>>61651430
There's nothing to save in a sea-shell.

>>61651457
I love Series 2, it's probably my favourite Tennant series.

>>61651430
No he couldn't, it was the obligatory "Doctor acts cold and edgy" moment.

>>61651470
Oh just fucking don't.

>>61651470
*episodes are

>>61651430
She was a qt. She'd have made a good companion.

>>61651430
He could have made everyone an hologram. At the end i thought he was going to save at least her, then i remembered she took the phone so she was real.

Why do I always love the episode when watching it but then I find flaws and shit and end up hating it?

>>61651509
You're thinking of Deaf Girl, that was Sacrificable Fodder #31.

>>61651492
why not?

>>61651521
/who/ is probably to blame for that.

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>>61651430
>>61651487
That's what you get if you touch the Doctor... even for a second.

>>61651521
Don Juan fuck-and-pass-on schleez the show's been high rolling for the last while.

>>61651545
Why?

>>61651430
She was Scottish, nothing of value was lost.

>mfw the raven is the creature davros spoke of
>mfw this years finale is a secret 3 parter
>mfw a street in ep10 leads to gallifrey
>mfw clara is pushed from missys sexy golden tardis and dies
>mfw ashildr is crap and edgy
>mfw the weeping angels get an origin story and are ruined
>mfw the doctor goes darker than dark in ep 12
>mfw claras song makes you cringe
>mfw clara lives on in her echoes blah blah oh the feelz
>mfw annoying bitch ruins the mood of end of ep 12 with her stupid catchphrase
>mfw 'the doctor returns christmas day in sweetie i'm home'
>mfw you realise the big bad of series 9 was an 18 year old girl and omega is never coming back

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>>61651607
>Scottish 'women'

>>61651623
>>mfw the weeping angels get an origin story and are ruined

They've been ruined for a while now. Should never have been used past Blink.

>>61651691
time of angels was a much better episode

>>61651691
>when the angels are disgraced timelords frozen in stone but an edgy 18 year old youtuber goth girl uses her magic powers to turn them into an army
>when you realize moffat ruins yet another one of his otherwise great creations

>>61651691
>Should never have been used past Blink.
They could have been used again, but they were made inconsistent and shit.

>>61651623
>>mfw the weeping angels get an origin story and are ruined


They are already ruined.

>>61651743
Fuck off.

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>>61651743

>>61651787
you fuck off
blink is overrated a shit

One thing I still don't understand: why is there a painting of the monster from next ep in the Drum?

>>61651815
Overrated = yes
Worse than Time of Angels = no

>>61651830
what?

>>61651857
The sea monster thing from the trailer.

>>61647634
hey was the episode good?

>>61651885
WWhat do you mean in the Drum?

>>61651895
12/10

>>61651895
ye it was fun

Is this “darker” substitute for blacker or is cremation and ash-eating the genuine fetish the kids are doing; what sado-sexual necrophiliac staples skin across the chicken-bone garbage to give it something SUBSTANTIAL? It WILL not WASH.

>mfw moffat is so clever by paralleling victorian claras death with real claras death
>mfw moffat's promised huge cliffhanger for ep 11 is doccy discovering what the weeping angels are
>mfw moffat still thinks people care about the weeping angels
>mfw everyone guessed it when they saw the end of time
>mfw hell bent shows the doctor at his darkest but still no valeyard
>mfw the doctor sings a song about clala to a sexy clala echo
>mfw he just doesnt take the clala echo with him
>mfw it abruptly cuts to river song running from a dalek
>mfw the title of the xmas special is the worst title in doctor who history
>mfw the show is cancelled

>>61651903
They're talking about the seamonster mural but I don't think there was anything like it in the trailer for the next episode

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>>61651903

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>>61651943

wait why is everyone talking about weeping angels now?

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>>61651691
>showing the angels moving

>>61651957
valeyard was a shit

>>61651457
i liked it, especially the cybermen episodes

>>61651895
Solid 6 to 7 out o 10

>Bootstrap paradox, Google it ~ 4th wall
>electric guitar riff ~ not on a tank
>O'Donnel holds her breath so it doesn't make mist ~ attention to detail
>TARDIS saya Timelocked ~ heh
>Sonic glasses did everything

Why is Matt's performance in Victory Of The Daleks so unusually poor? Did he realise how poop the episode was and just phoned it in?

>>61652133
wut

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>>61651691
>angels were spooky as shit back when they came out
>re watch blink
>not spooked
>wtf blizz?
>mfw

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>>61652144
shit wrong ed pic

>>61652133
what

>>61652138
I would have phoned it in too

only Capaldi could carry an episode that bad, maybe.

>>61649646
Nah they mention pre Saxon and it's clearly intuited that the defences is to British pre Saxon - also she said Minister of War
As in Minister of Defence
So someone takes over the British govt and makes them paranoid and about to go to war with everyone

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>>61652138
Fuck, I'm getting flashbacks to back in late 2009 where we got that leaked recording sound bite.
>I AM THE DOCTOR, AND YOU ARE THE DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH... LEKS!

Holy shit that was SIX YEARS AGO!

>Harriet Jones, Prime Minister
>Ushered in the "golden age of Britain"
>Kicked out by the Doctor after a "golden age" of like three months

Was RTD just a hack or was the Doctor talking out of his ass?

>>61652219
clala

>>61649709
Well the Church, Daleks, Timelords and others have always managed to find him

>>61652242
Eccles said she would serve for three successive terms, then Teninch cut her short. Either he changed history, or he got her mixed up with the parallel world where Harriet was President.

>>61652219
>>61652270
Balaclava

>>61652199
>mfw its rebecca front's character in invasion/inversion of the zygons
>mfw the ep is a pro immigration episode
>mfw zygon clala tries to shoot down plane and the doctor parachutes out
>mfw which clala is real which is zygon
>mfw the sandmen are actually scary
>mfw found footage works
>mfw mark gatiss has pulled it off
>mfw ep10 has surprise missy
>mfw missys tardis
>mfw fuck off maisie williams
>mfw clala falls out of missys tardis
>mfw run you clever boy bullshit to rigsy
>mfw such parallels many wow
>mfw magical streets that randomly need to gallifrey because why not

>>61652242

would've been a golden age had Ten not become an autistic fuck about killing aliens that want to kill you literally at the end of his first episode

in aliens of london the doctor called mickey up and guided him through hacking the MoD so he could send a ground to air missile and BLOW UP THE ALIENS

reminder that if harriet jones golden age had happened and ten hadn't interfered and stopped it britain would have been protected

>>61652327
cut it out m8

who else is ready for the super heavy-handed pro-migrant zygon episodes?

Doctor Who is always better when it stays away from social commentary
>THE MAN WHO NEVER WOULD

In Under the Lake, why does the TARDIS make that weird-ass groan noise as soon as Clara exits, after the Doctor gives her the awkward protective fatherly speech?

>>61652398
>mfw this all makes sense but gr8b8m8 anyway

WHEN WILL MOFFAT LEAVE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61652429
later

>>61652429
WHEN WILL CLALA DIE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Doctor Who is shit.

>>61652464
later.

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>>61652358
News flash, Ten is an utterly useless emotional wreck who causes more damage than he fixes even by the Doctor's usual standards.
>http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/A_man_who_never_would
>The Tenth Doctor was fond of describing himself as a "man who never would" despite the fact that he was a genocidal maniac. His penchant for mass murder made this statement somewhat hypocritical, particularly when he would chastise others for wiping out entire civilisations.
>Ten's unrelenting brutality and insatiable bloodlust was demonstrated in many stories, from drowning children in The Runaway Bride to torturing a family for all eternity in Human Nature / The Family of Blood. His own race (the Time Lords) didn't fare much better - after catching up with them again in The End of Time Ten had a good laugh at their plight before "sending them back to hell" by trapping them all in the Time War forever. And who could forget the time Ten slaughtered an entire city full of 11,000 innocent people?
>Ten was also a fan of playing God by manipulating fixed points in time to cause others to kill themselves. In The Waters of Mars one potential companion shot herself in the face after Ten destroyed her timeline for a laugh.
>Shortly before regenerating Ten was heard to remark "I COULD DO SO MUCH MORE!" referring to all the innocent people he hadn't had a chance to slaughter yet.
>Although all of the Doctor's incarnations have been known to indulge in a healthy dose of murder and genocide from time to time, none of them derived quite so much sexual pleasure enjoyment from it as Ten.

>>61652406

the tardis was glad to be rid of that STUPID CUNT for a bit

>>61652405
at least it will be a good opportunity to let Capaldi make "let zygons be zygons" pun

>>61652490
I just got aroused by O'Donnell's armpits again. It's so sext that women lift up their arms and there is no hair

>>61652488

>Shortly before regenerating Ten was heard to remark "I COULD DO SO MUCH MORE!" referring to all the innocent people he hadn't had a chance to slaughter yet.

always hilarious

>>61652488
we have the best wiki

>>61652528

ok?

>>61652242
>Dalek in 2012 laments that he hasn't found any evidence of Dalek life
>Lol jk 2008 invasion

>Cybermen invade the earth in 2006
>same thing happens in 2014 and nobody recognises them

>Daleks can't say mercy except all of the times they do say mercy

>>61652554
tbf Tardis Wiki finally got there THREE HOURS after broadcast..
>http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Before_the_Flood
>http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Before_the_Flood

Top kek

>>61652138
Reminder that that whole episode exists to introduce the tellytubby Daleks which are gone two Dalek stories later.

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>not a spoon
Things must be getting serious next week.

>>61652602
>Daleks can't say mercy except all of the times they do say mercy
That's not what happened.

>>61652602
Death in Heaven actually acknowledged that the Cybermen invaded before tho... in a background noise radio news report.
>We are being told that these metal men are known as Cybermen, but unlike the accounts we have on file, they now have the ability to fly.

>>61652631
IIRC there were set photos months ago with 12 having a real sword fight
gonna be pretty sweet

>>61652659
We'll finally see buttslut act terribly in another series.

>>61652659
quasi.jpg

Does AMC just pretend they own every show?
http://www.amc.com/shows/doctor-who/season-8

>>61652764
amc owns BBC America

>>61652614
No, the whole episode existed to restablish the Daleks as a constant enemy so as to end the whole 'the Daleks are extinct, b-b-but these survived.' The redesign was just added to the script by Gaypiss.

>>61652602
The Dalek invasion was eaten by a crack.

>>61652659
>>61652631
>>61651113

Whelp, looks like we've got a vikingfu.

guys, pikeys stole my cable

NEW THREAD:
>>61652982
>>61652982
>>61652982

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>>61652930
really?