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Matt smith is a child with no eyebrows edition.
Last Time on /who/: >>48107978
Leaks: https://mega.co.nz/#F!XwQkETaI!-dItZC_cNNGC0vzEwJEP7w
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look at my muscles
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>>48112400
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http://strawpoll.me/2436527
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>>48112400
Look at my, look at my, look at my muscles.
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What am I seeing here
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From the last thread, did Stan Lee make cameos in R rated Marvel films like Constantine and Punisher?
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My muscles

Look at them
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Anyone have a webm of the fall of arcadia from DotD?
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>>48112445
LOOK at my MUSCLES
LoOK AT MY MusCLEs
LOOKATMYMUSCLES
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>>48112489
Ass cheeks?
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>>48112372
damn that's a bit of alright
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>>48112489
Jenna is trying to prevent a break in time.
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>>48112505
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/time%20war/
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>>48112489
delicious thighs touching
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Books and stuff
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>>48112480
of course i did dont be silly.
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>>48112584
>Briggs writing books
>Briggs writing audios

He's the next showrunner.
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1st Doctor was goat but left too soon due to health issues.
2nd Doctor was a huge success despite everyone being attached to the 1st
3rd Doctor soar the show into popularity
4th Doctor was the best doctor of the classic series

9th Doctor was goat but left too soon because of issues on set
10th Doctor was a huge success despite everyone being attached to the 9th
11th Doctor soar the show into popularity
12th doctor is the best doctor of nuwho
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>>48112540
>>48112505
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/46874185/#46875819
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/46874185/#46876023
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/46874185/#46876194
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/46874185/#46876977
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>>48112641
lovely, if this is true, the next doctor is going to be boring as fuck all. Dropped
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>>48112641
Will we also only get 7 Doctors in NuWho and then have the show get cancelled, with the 15th in some crappy movie?
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was 11 the nudest Doctor?
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>>48112641
>despite everyone being attached to the 9th
Good onde.
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>>48112560
>captcha: thofe roidedy

You can not make this shit up.
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>>48112641
It's like poetry.
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>>48112584
I still can't get over the fact that the first eighth doctor novel was erotica stuff

>When a confused and mysterious young man stumbles into the life of the recently widowed Claudia, he reignites her sleeping sexuality. But is the handsome and angelic Paul really a combination of innocent and voluptuary, amnesiac and genius? Claudia's friends become involved in trying to decide whether or not he is to be trusted. As an erotic obsession flowers between Paul and Claudia, and all taboos are obliterated, his true identity no longer seems to matter.

the events of this novel are actually referenced in a proper eighth doctor novel so it's twice as funny.
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>>48112635
You realise there are plenty of people who have written both books and audios? And that almost none of them have even jumped up to writing TV episodes, let alone showrunning?
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>>48112641
Troughton was GOAT but he wasn't a huge success.
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>>48112764
You clearly werent around in 2005. People were pissed that Eccleston was leaving and everyone fucking hated Tennant and called him a "pretty boy".
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Hey /who/ Moffa here. It's NIGHT /WHO/ People, let's all get comfy and post pics of Karen Gillan's feet, did I tell you she gave me a footjob? She did, and so did Billie, and Carey Mulligan, and Sophia Myles, and Georgia Moffet, but don't tell David that, he'll kill me. :(
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>>48112494

>Constantine

Not Marvel.
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>>48112842
Its not funny anymore. Its really not. Fuck off with your garbage you piece of carpal tunnel syndrome.
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>>48112842
im unimpressed moff, i'd genuinely put money on you if a an actual fight were to occour between you and tennant. You'd fight dirty like a true scot i'd hope
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doctor who more like doctor poo
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>>48112489
sly handjob
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>>48112696
I follow #dwsr (Doctor Who Set Reports) on Twitter.
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>>>/hm/926495
>>>/hm/926495
>>>/hm/926495


>>>/hm/927139
>>>/hm/927139
>>>/hm/933664

NEVER FORGET!!
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>>48113061
Why is he such a slut?
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>>48112977
>>48113061
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>>48112209
How do you know where and when they film?
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Friendly reminder that DotD is the best NuWho episode.
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>>48113127
Nah. Its pretty boring. Should have cut out all the zygon and unit stuff and just had 11/10/War talking to eachother.
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>>48113127
>dotd the best NuWho episode
>written by moffatt

wat
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>>48113061
>all those comments about Eccleston and other who stars now

Although it is widely known that Troughton had multiple families and died at a who convention just after sleeping with a fan girl.
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>>48112959
see >>48113125
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>>48113236
The vast majority of the best NuWho episodes were, in fact, written by Moffat.
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>>48113149
their banter was the best bit
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>>48113149
>cut out all the zygon and unit stuff

Cut out the thing that:
>Both the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors are working on
>That creates the two analogies to saving Gallifrey (suspended animation, screwdriver)
>Creates analogous situation to destroying Gallifrey
>Reinforces the idea to destroy Gallifrey to War Doctor


For what purpose? Then the episode would be boring.
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>>48113315
I don't know you make a good point but personally I enjoyed the banter between them. Everything else just felt like fluff.
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Favorite 1st Doctor books? Ten Little Aliens was a fucking ace and better than anything in Hartnell's tv series.
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>>48113061
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>>48113236
Like the other best episodes then?
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>>48113299
other way around, but you get the point
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>>48113236
0/10
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>>48112641
>1st was goat
>4th was the best doctor of the classic series
I don't think you know what GOAT means.
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Reminder to hail Satan
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>>48112641

the most realistic one is 3 = 9, 4 = 10, 5 = 11, 6 = 12
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>>48112641
What about the other Doctors?
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>>48113348
Venusian Lullaby. 5/5.

The Time Travellers takes a great premece and makes it boring as shit. The Sorcerer's Apprentince is about a 3.5/5. The Eleventh Tiger is good but a lot of these novels have Ian getting the shit kicked out of him. The Witch Hunters is about a 4/5. Make it a 3/5 if you hate Susan. Still haven't read Empire of Glass or The Plotters yet but I do have them at least.
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>>48113348
That's the only one I've read, unfortunately

It was damn good though, despite not particularly fitting the tone of 1's era
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>>48113583
What does /who/ think of The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit? When I heard that there was an episode where the Doctor literally fights Satan (maybe) I thought it sounded retarded as fuck, but after seeing the episode I think they did it alright.
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>>48113847
I think it's the epitome of average Doctor Who
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>>48113345
They could have had a bit more interaction, but the Zygon plot is pretty much the Gallifrey plot in a microcosm. The War Doctor believes he sees everything he needs to in order to use the Moment.

As it is, the only other place to insert Doctor interactions would have been on the way to the Tower. Anything else would be padding. If anything, what I'd rather see is a bit more with the War Doctor and the Moment, as it takes forms of his past in the shape of aged Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and Eighth Doctors. All trying to berate him for becoming a Warrior before settling on Bad Wolf.
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>>48113847
There's nothing wrong with meat and potatoes
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>>48112584
Get out of my head anon!

That's the one I start tomorrow.
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Guys, Missy is Death. She has an unhealthy obsession/attraction to the man who not only has caused more death over time and space than anyone else but also managed to escape her grasp at every turn via regeneration. He keeps sending her dead souls, the latest being the half-face cyborg. Him getting out of the final death via new regeneration cycle is what forced her hand this season. All that and the finale is titled "Death in Heaven"
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>>48113744
Which Doctor's tone do you say it fits most?
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>>48113804
>Also no good Second Doctor actually exists.

What? Do you mean no good 2 books exist? Because Dreams of Empire and The Wheel of Ice very strongly disagree.
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>>48113915
Your idea sounds very good on paper but it would probably turn into Zagreus, eugh
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Wow, the premiere was HORRIBLE. Moffatt really needs to go.
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What's one of your biggest DW-related secrets?

Mine's I fucked my second cousin after we watched The Doctor Dances :)
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>>48113968
Nah, they're just not really that engaging. Second Doctor is just too hard to write for. All the interesting bits come from Jamie. Dreams of Empire especially holy shit.

Could be worse. Check out the reviews for this on Amazon for a good laugh.
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>>48114001
Christ man.

Repost, but I completely didn't know the existence of Six until Name of the Doctor. Yes, I had watched the new series at least twice by then. I understand how impossible it would be to not realize it.
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>>48113976
Eugh. I'd have hoped Moffat would have learned from listening to that. They would have just been small cameos to have them included in the episode proper.
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>>48113915
I can see that, reminds me of one of that bit in one of the VNAs where various aspects of the doctors personality are represented by the various incarnations.

would be pretty cool. but tough not to screw it up.
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>>48113847
Good fun, especially Toby
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>>48114045

Based Alister Pearson
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>>48113928
Sweet, delicious Jelly Blobs.

>>48113952
I don't really know if it fits any, all I know is that the original pitch for it, '"Starship Troopers" meets Agatha Christie' is a very apt description of the final product.
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Watched The Three Doctors today. Absolutely loved it. First serial I really enjoyed since season 7. Hope the rest of season 10 is this good.
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>>48113847

man, the first episode is goat atmospheric stuck on a base who. the violin riffs and the black hole and the mystery and gabriel woolf's beast voice are so insanely great.

i think they kind of fuck up at some points in pt 2 with the ood, but it's still well done. the feeling of isolation of the doctor and that chick at the pit. the only bit that really sucks is the terribly animated satan. what would've been cool is you just see the doctor entering into the confrontation, not knowing, then the rest is just from rose and the rocket crew's pov, with toby's possessed words and death reflecting whatever the doctor is doing in the pit, and then he saves the day. dunno how he'd find the tardis though
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>>48114165
Carnival of Monsters is GOATAS
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>>48114045
All I see is one dude being mad that it wasn't really appropriate reading material for his daughter. Am I missing something?
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The only two Doctors whose best stories are on TV are Two and Five.

Doctor Who EU is pretty fucking good
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>>48114045

the dark path was bretty good
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>>48114228
> Five

I dunno man. Spare Parts is GOAT and that is a Five story.
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>>48114165
>First serial I really enjoyed since season 7

Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way, I just can't into Pertwee at all, his portrayal of the doctor just frustrates me a lot
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>>48114210
>We got about 25 pages into this book. First, the prologue described in detail the experimentation on, disfigurement of, and torture of, lab animals by a sadistic female scientist. The first chapter featured extremely graphic descriptions of the population of a city being literally torn to shreds by genetically engineers monsters. Next up was a vile male character very frankly "chatting up" the local "whores" - the book's word, not mine-. Finally, there's a woman that goes to see a man, apparently unknown to her, and she proceeds to have sex with him to help "cure his disease".

I don't see what the big deal is. That sounds like it'd fit right in with the tone of Second Doctor stories.
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Which is best book for 9?
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Hey, Moffat again, I get some of you aren't as comfy as I am, and aren't being particuarly social, but trust me, let's all get comfy, get some biscuits, and some tea, and your foot warmers, and your cushions, and lets all get comfy and have a nice ol' chat /who/ I'm eager for a laugh, and I've read all of Gatiss' scripts, so come on, let's try again.
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>>48114273
Spare Parts is amazing, don't get me wrong.

But it's not Kinda
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>>48114045
They're still good 2 books even if 2 isn't perfectly portrayed in them, so I don't really see how that matters.

I think Stephen Baxter did a pretty decent job personally.
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So how did Tumblr react to the episode? I watched it too late to see any fallout.
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>>48114261
You wouldn't be willing to sell it to me would you?
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>>48114273
It's an extreme outlier, which is why it's so often recommended as a starting point like Blink (which makes no fucking sense), although I think 4's best stories are TV but part of that stems from the volume
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>>48114303
Why do you hate us and Doctor Who?
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>>48112878
>What is fun? Piss off, you dumb cunt. Satire is GOAT.
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>>48114326
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>>48114302
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>>48114323
I dunno. It just seems so meh. Like, I can't really remember anything from it, but I can recall everything about Harvest of Time.

I wish the BBC didn't kill this past Doctor line. Or even take that year off of doing Doctor Who books when Matt Smith was still the Doctor.
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>>48114292
Yup, I can't get into him either. For me, Pertwee doesn't seem to have any presence. He's just sort of there reading his dialogue, and every now and then doing a karate chop. I'm also not liking Delgado's Master, and since that's a majority of season 8 and 9, it only hurts my enjoyment of the show
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>>48114303
Why must you insist on using the lizbian?
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>>48114326
They said Moffat was racist because the skin balloon didn't have enough black people on it and something something Ferguson from Clarissa Explains it All.
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>>48114369
...What?
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>>48114402
Only Human is the only Nine product that's even remotely good. And even then it's just okay
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>>48114125

A guy from my school got his initials on one of the missing adventures novels and a stack of screen printed artwork for sending him a fan letter. Seems like a real gent and talent. I'd love for him to start doing covers again instead of the photoshop shit we get now.
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>>48114402
You know it's really weird that you seem to be posting these in every single Doctor Who thread.

That's still the best Ninth Doctor novel.
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>>48114326
>>48114369
They all just have such an extremely irrational hatred for Moffat and I just find it so odd, like some of them picked him as a target and just agreed to hate him forever no matter what.

>>48114411
I totally agree, I find him just so bland and he really is just there. Although I like Season 11 the second best of his seasons and most people I know who really like him really dislike Season 11 and say it's a pretty significant drop in quality, so you might like it too.
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>>48114329

it's your lucky day breh

http://kickass.to.prx.websiteproxy.co.uk/567-doctor-who-ebooks-epub-and-mobi-t8067520.html

you might have to download an .epub reader
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>>48114326
I don't think there's a reaction image to this
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>>48114228
0/10
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>>48114487
see my first comment here (>>48114485), it makes no fucking sense
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>>48114512
Seriously?
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>>48114485
Lookin forward to it. Really, I just can't wait to get to the Hinchcliffe era. I've heard so many good things and I have no experience with the Fourth Doctor so I'm pretty excited.
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>>48114045
Invasion of the Cat-People is 100 times worse.
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>>48114369
Does she think women can no longer be criticized in fiction? Skyler and Marie were pretty helpless and needy, yet Breaking Bad is often touted as a flawless masterpiece.
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>>48114405
Saturn, blue plastic babies, Saturn, Scottish robot, space politics (aka my favorite thing), Saturn, Zoe a qt, Saturn, Saturn, Saturn

>tfw will never go to Saturn
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>>48114549
The Hinchcliffe era is just as good as people say it is, which is saying something
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>>48113262
>Troughton
>multiple families
>slept with a fan girl

for the love of god, elaborate more anon!
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>>48114486
I'm... I'm sorry... I'm... I'M A FAGGOT WHO LIKES OWNING BOOKS!
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>>48114567
That is the danger of Doctor Who fans largely being cat people.
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>>48114591
It's a copypasta from last year.
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>>48114475
Only every other thread, the previous thread always takes forever to die

What can I say, the 50th collection covers look nice and are what I have saved
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>>48114292
I know right!
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>>48114369

>started by a woman and an Indian man

First of all, Waris Hussein was not Indian, he was British-Indian, since he was born in British India and gained British citizenship when he moved here. He only lived in India for 8 years, and spent his formative period in the UK.

Also, while Verity Lambert was the driving force behind the show, Hussein wasn't nearly as important as GOAT Canadian Sydney 'Pop Pop Pop (Make A Nigga Drop)' Newman.
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>>48114165
Hm, I thought The Three Doctors was a bit disappointing, but to each his own.
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Man this was pretty good.
>dem ambient noises at the cybermen ship
>that Alien vibe with the cybermat fucking everything
>backstory about the war between humans and androids
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/who/ would you watch an animated series that featured the classic Doctors? Even if the animation was only on par with Dreamland?
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>>48114748
Yeah, but he's a white man. He doesn't deserve a mention.
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>>48114782
As long as the character design wasn't like Dreamland.
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>>48114782
We all would
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>>48114782
>/who/ would you watch an animated series that featured the classic Doctors?

Yes.

> Even if the animation was only on par with Dreamland?

No.
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>>48114569

Clara's not even needy.

She literally explains that the reason she missed Footface McCutiepie wasn't because the new Doctor isn't boyfriend material, she's just stating how much of a great and terrible shock it is to see a face so different.

She's actually really powerfully and well-written in Deep Breath.
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>>48114616

if it was possible to buy all the who books, i'd fucking love it

but some are so rare it's not even funny
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>>48114782
Is Dreamland any good at all?

I did hear that David Warner was in it, so that's my incentive.
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>>48114822
There's no point in telling /who/ how good series 8 is or trying to logically talk to a tumblrite
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>>48114856
As a fan of the novel Lungbarrow, I know that feeling.
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>>48114822
But that tumblrite made it seem like you're sexist if you criticize a woman, even if those faults are valid.
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M A CONTROL FREAK? SO NOW ALL WOMEN ARE CONTROL FREAKS, YOU SEXIST PIG?!
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>>48114856
>>48114880
I think a lot of us know that feel, it's been a struggle enough for me to collect classic who DVDs (and I still dread the day I buy the two doctors), books would just be insane
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>>48114880
Lungbarrow is aces. I headcannon NuWho to fit it all the time.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/2438252
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>>48114629
not going to lie, I read this in Colin "Pie Man" Baker's voice.
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>>48114912

well the torrent i posted has literally every novel published up to and including all the 50th shit. it's just in epub format
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>>48114880
Is there anything I should read first before reading Lungbarrow?
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>>48114906
I wish 12 would pick up an internet feminist for just one episode.

It ends with them being jettisoned into the vortex by "accident."
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>>48114958
Time's Crucible: Cat's Cradle
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>>48114955
Don't get me wrong, I've read a bunch of Who books as ebooks, just saying if I could collect VNAs physically I totally would

>>48114958
ideally all of the VNAs leading up to it
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>>48114912
Getting the War arc of the EDA's would be well over $100 on Amazon.
>>48114922
I love it, despite it does have some strange bits in it, such as Susan knowing the Doctor is the Other, despite the Other sacrificed himself who knows how long ago, meaning she's much older than she lets on. Also, The Beginning by Marc Platt is canon, and it mentions the whole "no children are born on Gallifrey!" and living chairs.
>>48114958
http://www.drwhoguide.com/who.htm#7TH
There's a lot, but check TARDIS.wikia for Chris Cwej's appearances so you can get to know the character.
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>>48114880
I dont know if I like the idea of the Doctor being a incarnation of the OTHER and he's actually super special and all the time lords are sterile
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>>48115032
I like it, but then again, it seriously only fits with Seven, and a bit with 8, but only in his novels.
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>>48114912
I don't know why they decided to end the DVD license BEFORE the 50th anniversary.

Only missing The Two Doctors, Ghost Light, and Battlefield personally.
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>>48115032
>Time Lords are sterile
>The Doctor has a granddaughter

top fucking kek m8.
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>>48115076
Is Underwater Menace dead?
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>>48115076
I'm pretty jealous m8, I only have just over 20 Classic Who DVDs and I'm slowly getting more

>>48115091
members of the restoration team have said they have no idea what is going on with it at all, so yes
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>>48114369
>>48114822
She's like the least needy or clingy nu who companion, she doesn't even want to live with the Doctor 24/7. He gets to go on Big Finish Adventures in between hanging out with her.
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>>48115086
In Lungbarrow, Susan was "the last child born to Gallifrey", so after her, looming!

Also, it's only canonical in the books.
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>>48115064
I haven't read the book (it's EXPENSIVE) but I never liked the ideas it put out at all to be honest.

The kids on Gallifrey during Day of the Doctor makes me wonder if Moffat didn't like it either, since RTD made a point of talking about how the Master as a child was just "oh, it was just Martha imagining it, Lungbarrow could still be canon!" or something like that.
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>>48115118
It heavily hinted that Leela was going to give birth to first new child.
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>>48114988

>just saying if I could collect VNAs physically I totally would

so would i, if anyone for the 10/10 goofy as covers
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>>48115091
You can preorder it on Amazon, so it can't be that dead.

...m... maybe
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>>48115170
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>>48115091
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>>48115143
Fans of the books must be so sad, considering most of the books are considered completely non-canonical (bar a few exceptions, look at the cover for Eyes of the Master).
>>48115164
It wasn't hinted, I remember her saying "I am going to give birth", and she and Ace had a few pages about it in a kitchen. And then a giant plant attacked.
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>>48115201
IT!
COULD!
WORK!
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>>48115164
You will never impregnate Leela after an all-night love-making session.

I-I can't live with this emptiness.
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>>48115108
I started collecting like, six months before they decided to stop printing certain DVDs.

My only fuck up was that I was buying them in order. So much good Seven unavailable.
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It already feels like the Peter Capaldi run is going to be an absolute DISASTER.

Horribad!
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>>48115170
Shit, does anyone have the cover where he's pointing a shotgun at Mel?
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>>48115217
I just wish they mention Benny, just once.
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>>48115262
Love and War. The audio is canonical, and so is her spin-off. Unless you mean the show.
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>>48115262
> tfw benny will never be in nuwho
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>>48115237
FremenDar, no need to turn off your trip.
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>>48115237
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>>48115290
It's Sarah Janes fault for dying. We were gonna have Ace. We were gonna have lots of past companions show up. Maybe even from the novels or audios.

Why did she have to die.
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At some point there will be novel mentions in NuWho. It's inevitable.
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>>48115343
Cancer is the worst.
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I love Donna. Remember that time she missed a whole episode because she was too busy chilling at the spa?
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>>48114856
I feel the same about the Big Finish monthly range. A physical copy of Storm Warning is like $300 on Amazon and I like owning physical copies of things.
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>>48115376
It's too bad the majority of her novels are bad. I wanted more Donna adventures.
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>>48115196
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Just watched Listen.

Shit was fucking good, yo.
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>>48115389
>A physical copy of Storm Warning is like $300 on Amazon and I like owning physical copies of things.

You know it's weird. I'm the same fag from earlier who buys out of print Doctor Who books but for audios I don't seem to mind just downloading them.

Maybe it's because I think $25 is too expensive for them but eh. If they were $10 even I'd own all the new Fourth Doctor adventures that are coming out along with all the Lucie Millers.
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Shame Deep Breath sucked so much, Capaldi was pretty good in the second half and could have been a good Doctor if not for Moffat.
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>>48115362
There was a quick reference to a character from Beautiful Chaos in The End of Time if that counts
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>>48115389
>$300 for Storm Warning
Jesus, I'm glad I bought the first 50 right after they announced no more reprinting.
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Who is your Whofu /tv/?
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>>48115443
I finished it five minutes ago, it's honestly much better than anything else I've seen. I can't think of anything that can be comparable to be honest.
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>>48115395
>>48115376
Yet another reason to hope against hope that BF gets the license for nu-who worked out
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>>48115458
>hasn't watched the leaks
0/10
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>>48115482
VNA Ace
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>>48115466
Yep. Netty; that old lady who grabbed 10's ass.
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>>48115482
Tegan
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>>48115443
I adore it; favorite episode of all of NuWho, but I'm nervous about changes in music, which I think could really affect the success of the episode's tone. I'm also nervous about people not liking it, just because it's so different and I love it so much
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Are there any NuWho books that feature classic Doctors? It seems weird that the 1-8 and 9-11 don't interact, even if the Time War is between them.
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>>48115259
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>>48115458
0/10
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>>48115482
Ali from The Beast of Babylon
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What was the novel where Ace has sex with a Ice Warrior? It was mentioned in a Doctor Who Magazine, I think when they were reviewing the special features for the ArK in Space?

>>48115482
Pic releated
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>>48115550
11/10 fantastic

also holy fuck this is some comfy ass night/who/
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Did people really get angry about that lesbian kiss?
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>>48115550
What a gangster-ass motherfucker.

Like, we can all agree that 7 is the most gangster Doctor, right?
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>>48115620
Uh, on Tumblr they got angry because it wasn't a NORMAL kiss. They just want them to be fucking all the time and not have a master servant relationship.
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>>48115647
he did die in a shoot out so
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>>48115647
Technically that's a Land of Fiction created duplicate named Dr.Who

Also yes.
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>>48115647
The only gangster doctors I can think of are 7 and 9, and somewhat later 8
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>>48115647
Hell, he even got into a fight with a gang

I mean, not on purpose. He just walks into it, and he gets shot a lot, but still.
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>>48115647
Well he certainly died like one
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>>48115620
Wasn't a kiss. Literally CPR.
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>>48115443
It might be my favorite episode of a TV show tbh.

Its not gimmicky, it takes risks, its focused on characters while having the kind of plot you only get on DW , it builds tension. Frankly, that could be the last episode of the show and I would be happy.

That said, if you are reading this and haven't watched it yet, don't overhype yourself.Just go watch it now instead before somebody ruins it.
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>>48115688
There was also that thing with the Kangs.
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>>48115550
i love this and I love you
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Are the leaks the same quality as the first? How did they get out?
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Hi I never come here but what do you think of the new doctor?

He seems meh, failing at his attempt to be aloof and sad

Dunno, maybe he grows on me
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>>48115666
Doesn't get much more gangster

Also nice digits, appropriate for
>>48113583
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>>48115812
They got out because BBC Worldwide sent them to BBC Miami over a public server.

Also, yeah, shoddy to no CGI, rarely any BGM, and some scenes are missing.
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>>48115547

The only thing I didn't like about it was the music, I thought it didn't fit in some places. I think it will only get better in the final version.

I welcome our new Carl Sagan Doctor.
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The original Peter.
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>>48115867
Reminder
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>>48115823
Everyone here has watched the first couple episodes, leave unless you are ok with getting spoiled
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>>48115449
I took advantage of the a few sales these past few months to start collecting other ranges, like the Companion Chronicles and the Lost Stories. I've also started collecting a few New Series books, and the Target novelizations.

>>48115472
I only started collecting the first 50 back in February so I only have 20 of the first 50 and #58 when it was on sale.
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>>48115926
O-ok, th-thank you
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GOAT Companion:

Rose, Amy

Alright Tier:

Everyone else

Shit tier:

Donna
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>>48115916
Glorious
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>>48115362
I may be wrong but i'm 99% positive there was a reference to one of the EDAs and VNAs in series 1. Anyone want to confirm?
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>>48116031
>Hasn't seen classic who
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>>48116031
b8
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>>48116095
ew, all those old people don't count
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>>48116031
0/10
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>>48116127
>>48116031
-12/10
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>>48116127
>>48116031
b8est of b8s
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>>48115620
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>>48115912
The second Peter
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>>48116031
GOAT
Rory

Alright: Everyone else

Shit: Adric
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>>48115498
>>48115547
>>48115714
Not the original anon, but was I the only one bothered by how certain things were presented in the episode.

Not to talk about the plot, cause it works and I have no problem with it and I find Capaldi's Doctor brilliant and Clara is finally becoming more of a person but:

>It seems that her relationship with Danny is a bit forced. We saw the attraction but it feels to me that Moffat overall wants to skip the relationship building up and just show you that "hey, their time lines are intertwined, here's their great grandson or whatever, let's have him give Clara a family heirloom knowing it is a family heirloom meant to be kept in the family" to show you that Clara and Danny will work out, will get together and love each other and once again, to me, it feels like a set up to something that's gonna happen in the series finale where a choice has to be made or someone's gonna die.

And now we learn that just like the Doctor, she's been there part of his life, shaping him and making him the man he'd eventually be and the man she'd know and even love.

That and the Tardis being able to go to a pre time war Gallifrey, landing there and having Clara affect the Doctor's life once again, feels that the writers are still making Clara to be this all important person in the Doctor's life who's not only the reason for his victories, even if she was just righting wrongs, but for his fear of the dark and after this episode, for helping him get over that fear, and for once again, shaping him into the man he'd grow up to be
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bokGPGE1uQE#t=4m58s

Capaldi is best
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What does /who/ think of the S12 Scarf I've been working on? It's nearly complete
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>>48115620
I think it would have been better if they just kissed in the scene with no weird justifying it and calling more attention to it.

Same as the whole "married" thing. Just like super highlighting for no reason
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>>48116031
Can anyone remember the last time someone on /who/ has made a good b8? Every single one is laughable. I think that copypasta is right, if you're going to bait, why not do it right and properly? Why make lame b8s and that no one falls for? Whats the point?
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>>48116267
Absolute shit. Burn it.
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>>48116267
Shite
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>>48116224
The TARDIS being able to easily go to pre-time war gallifrey bothers me a fair amount honestly , even if I think the episode is very good
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>>48116267
Colors are great. But it looks kind of short.
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>>48116267
/r/ing pic of you wearing nothing but the scarf
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>>48116300
That anybody responded to it mean the bait worked.
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>>48116318
Its not Gallifrey. Its a boarding school. That's why when War is shown walking up to the Barn its a blue sky, dusty and there's no daleks or any time war stuff going on.
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>>48115472
>>48115389
>bough Spare Parts
>oh noice
>few weeks later receive email from BF about being out of print
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>>48116300
Martha Is Fat was very good and people still fall for it today. People still fall for the tranny copy pasta as well.
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>>48116350
So the Doctor just went to a boarding school somewhere in the universe?

Sorry for asking so many questions but I really want to fully appreciate this episode, if you can give me some source of that explanation I'd love you
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Reminder on Saturday to "what?" the fuck out of the new fags so they will get pissed and leave.
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>>48116329

It's the 12-foot one, not the 20 foot. Right now it's around 10 1/2 ft
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God dammit /who/ I miss David Banks. You think they'll ever let him be a cyberman again?
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>>48116224
But the barn wasn't on Gallifrey, the barn was a place where the Doctor spent time as a child. Possibly in a boys home echoing Danny. He went there to use the Moment and "watch Gallifrey burn" it was not on Gallifrey.

And Clara ended up important because she happened to be the one with him in this case but I don't think it was very forced. Everything that she did was completely consistant with her character in the situation.

As for the Danny thing, yes it is forcing it but frankly I don't give a shit about her relationship with Danny so that didn't bother me. If anything it made it more intersting to see how she will react to this and move forward with it
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>>48116251
That is fucking adorable. I love how in all these interviews and shit, Capaldi seems like the nicest guy in the world, and then his Doctor is really dark and a bit hostile at times.
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>>48116224
>>48116433
I feel like the relationship with Danny is just representative of Moffat's time gaps between Clara's travels
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In the 50th the doctor says Gallifrey will be "frozen in a single moment in time" but in TOTD they seem to be able to do things. Is this a plot hole? Is there some millisecond throwaway line somewhere that explains this? Am I retarded?
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>>48116409

he probably went to a boarding school elsewhere in the same solar system before he went to the academy/did the whole untempered schism shit

there were a bunch of other planet's in gallifrey's system, including polarfrey, karn and the asteroid kasterborous the fibster
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>>48116300
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>>48116365
I bought Spare Parts, Jubilee, and Land of the Dead in late April, so I'm in the clear. I'm surprised it lasted this long before going out of print.
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>>48116438
>tfw Capaldi is going to have his heart broken because tons of people are complaining about the episode so BBC will lose tons of viewers and cancel Doctor Who
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>>48116415
I remember reading a tumblr post linked by some anon, and the girl was fucking seething over the three second scene where the Doctor first meets Rusty.

Her reasons as to why it was stealing from Dalek were:
-Dalek
-It's in a room (GASP!)
-Soldiers

Cunts, the whole lot of them.
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>>48116224
I don't know why everyone keeps saying this. Clara didn't have an affect on the doctor besides making him scared of stuff under the bed. The soldier without a gun was just a parallel to how the doctor acts these days and not because Clara caused that.
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>>48116461
Its a dumb plot hole. Really just bad and a result of Matt leaving a season early and Moffat trying to pack his last season into the episode
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>>48116420

I hope so although I'd imagine Briggs wouldn't want to give up his spot. Nu-Who Cybermen have the vocabulary of a fucked printer.
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>>48116464

also the planet Dronid from Shada, which was a Gallifrayan colony
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>>48116456
I think there's something shifty about him. Not necessarily that he's evil, but hiding something.
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>>48116498
Its idiotic. And I know for a fact its how its gonna be on Saturday. The episode is fucking completely different to Dalek. I don't care if someone doesn't like an episode but most people just shitpost instead of having a discussion on why they don't like it.

>>48116224 Is how it should be done. You can dislike something and tell everyone why and shitpost and be a cunt about it. Sadly most people don't.
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>>48116578
I think he's just not an amazing actor so it comes off as him acting like someone pretending to be lying.
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>>48116566
Briggs still has the Daleks, which appear even more.

He can get over it.
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>>48116646
*and not
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>>48116433
Badly Clara is now a super special companion comparable to SJS.
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>>48116680
But Sarah was never SUPER SPECIAL.

She was simply the Doctor's best friend.
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>>48116498
Yeah I don't get the hate. it's a nice homage to an earlier Dalek story. Did people go ape shit over Victory of the Daleks because it was similar to Power of the Daleks? No, it was just a fucking homage paying tribute to an earlier story that people loved.
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>>48116433
For your first point

but didn't the Doctor, particularly the tenth, mention growing up on gallifrey, how beautiful it looked, the sky, the suns, the mountains, and I believe it was in Sound of Drums that the Master also mentioned him and the doctor being children growing up on Gallifrey and playing in the Master's father's land/fields or whatever. Plus why would a Gallifreyan grow up anywhere but Gallifrey, and how would you otherwise become a Time lord (mind you I admittedly have not watched the classic series so nuwho is all I know)

And for the second point

but that's my problem with it, being a plot device is part of her character and they've kept it as part of her. She was this plot device that helped and saved the Doctor in series 7b in almost all her episodes and especially in Rings of Akhaten with her "most important leaf" speech. And in Name of the Doctor, she saved every single doctor multiple times. All by courtesy of being a plot device, and she keeps staying a plot device in this episode where she keeps saving, keeps shaping, keeps affecting the Doctor and his past. She keeps being and becoming a more and more important person/factor/plot device in the Doctor's life and experiences with this "I was the monster under your bed, the one who created that fear, who still tried to inspire you that you don't need to "be this or do that" because of fear.
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>>48116646
Actually, Deep Breath was my first actual live thread. I asked my friend if it was usually so disgusting, and he agreed.

I'm just going to do what I do best, act simple minded and ask generally nice questions.
>>48116710
Nobody who watched Victory on tumblr watched Power.

Also, I'm going to give my English professor my copy of Jubilee so she can listen to it this weekend. She's going to watch an homage of an homage.
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>>48116461
>>48116564
Remember when time was "frozen" (or rather, totally broken) in "The Wedding of River Song?"

Probably like that.

I like to think the Master and Rassilon are still fighting. Probably wrestling barehanded now. With oil. Hmm. In The Hot Tub of Rassilon.
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>>48116736
NEW THREAD
>>48116736
NEW THREAD
>>48116736
NEW THREAD
>>48116736
NEW THREAD
>>48116736
NEW THREAD
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>>48116709
She was a formative part of his character
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>>48116710
>Did people go ape shit over Victory of the Daleks because it was similar to Power of the Daleks?

No, they went ape shit because it was bad and wasted those lovely Ironside designs for skittles.
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I really like the way in more recent stories Moffat uses plot elements and characters to parallel the Doctor and/or his companion and their character. I think it might even be what he's known for when people look back at him like Robert Holmes double acts.

He does it a couple different ways in Deep Breath, he also does it in Day of the Doctor and Listen
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>>48116767
282 replies, dude.
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>>48116709

Romana was the specialest of all companions
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>>48116709
Right, if it had happened to be Sarah it would have played out similarly. Its not because Clara is super Spucial
but because Clara happened to be the one with him. And the Doctor is clearly unsure if it was a dream and didn't remember the soldier, we don't have any indication that it completely changed his life just that it might have been a factor in his growing up.
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>>48116767
Time is a circle

(why are there three active threads)
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Another thing I don't understand about Listen:

Why does everyone have the same dream(s)?
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>>48116794
>that pic
>his face
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>>48116540
But within the context of the episode, wasn't Clara the monster under the Doctor's bed and the memory of that experience, the catalyst for Capaldis' Doctor to ponder about "perfect hiding", to investigate that kind of dream, to go into people's timelines (Clara's) to find an answer, and in fact, Clara being that monster set off the whole plot and the Doctor's kinda paranoia if you can call it that of something being there when there isn't.

Plus Clara mentioned how being afraid (or cowardly, I forget which) doesn't have to make you do bad things, and they flashed the War Doctor, another version of the doctor she "saved". So it's even possible that it was her speech to the Doctor as a child, that created some hesitancy in the Doctor when he had to destroy Gallifrey, although I can't fully support that with a lot of evidence.
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>>48116740
spoiler] He was from Gallifrey and/or spent a lot of childhood there. The race of "Gallifreyians" colonized more than one planet though so its entirely plausible he spent some of his years at a colony. Really we just have these little snippets because we don't know about the character before he abandoned his real name.

And Time-Lords were a special caste of Gallifreyian who went to the Academy, excelled and were granted regenerations. Presumably it wasn't limited to only those who were born on the mother planet.

As for Clara, I think that because it grew organically out of her character this time she wasn't just a plot device. But this is personal opinion. I also think people are over thinking the importance because we have so little information about his childhood. I really don't think this was a major life changing experience. He was clearly already on the path to going to the academy and clearly wasn't even sure if this actually happened for a long time.
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It's odd, leading up to Clara the companion arcs and shit were beginning to annoy me but I'm ok with Clara even though she has by far the biggest character arc and role. I still hope they go completely minimal with the next companion but I think it's just JCo that makes Clara work for me.
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>>48117062
OOPS.
YOU FUCKED UP
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>>48117073
shit. i don't care.
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>>48116990
because what's under the bed is what's behind you when you are asleep. Its a common nightmare in the real world, the reason in the real world is the reason in the show.
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>>48116659
I find him to be decent so far. He was disappointing in Listen though. Orson felt like a nothing character even though the script gave him some potentially good scenes to make an impression.
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>>48117169
I love how fucking minimalist Listen really is, so much so that it leads me to overthinking it
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>>48117198
Keep spoiler tagging that stuff, dude.
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>>48117023
Exactly. Clara made the doctor afraid of stuff under the bed. I don't think she influenced him anymore than that but I could be completely wrong.
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>>48117198
I think it stands out because Capaldi is so good and Jenna is stepping up more now that she is opposite Capaldi. If he was opposite Matt and Amy, I don't think you would even notice
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>>48117198
Who the fuck is Orson? I watched the episode and saw no mention of that. Are you talking about Danny and changing it to Orson to avoid spoilers?
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>>48117023
a lot of what Clara tells the young Doctor is what she heard the Doctor tell Rupert, and what she's learned from being with the Doctor so long. It's a loop that represents the Doctor/Companion relationship in the show
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>>48117232
Not the guy you're responding to, but I don't think that needs to be spoiler tagged.
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>>48117271
Clara and Danny's great granchild
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>>48117281
That character is a surprise, though. Listen is best to go into completely blind. I didn't even know the synopsis when I watched it and it was great.
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>>48117280
fear makes companions of us all
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In case someone is looking for the new thread and didn't see >>48116767

>>48116736
>>48116736
>>48116736
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I had everything in Listen spoiled for me and I still enjoyed it personally
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>>48117317
just knowing there's someone named Orson means nothing
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>>48117301
It's likely but we can't be sure he's Clara's descendant, there's wiggle room. It almost seems too obvious to be anything but misdirection, which Moffat loves doing.
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>>48117062
I guess that's fair enough then, considering that there isn't much information, I concede that it is entirely plausible that he grew up on a colony, but that still means that my original point that the Tardis being able to travel back to a pre time war version of the universe and even the Doctor's own childhood is strange, still stands. Although thanks for the clarification on Gallifreyan colonization.

And as for Clara, I guess it is a bit subjective, but I'm still staying wary of her, she overall was the spark that set up the plot for this episode, which as it turns out is a paradox. She being the creature under the bed led to the Doctor investigating it, being a bit paranoid, and seeing/perceiving things that weren't really there in the episode which ultimately led to her becoming the creature under his bed in the first place.
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>>48117410
>Tardis being able to travel back to a pre time war version of the universe and even the Doctor's own childhood is strange, still stands

He turned the safeties off otherwise it probably wouldn't be able to.
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>>48117544
Then couldn't that mean that almost any race with time travel technology could theoretically do the same.

Could Daleks theoretically reignite the war or still try to affect the outcome by traveling to pre-time war gallifrey or somewhere in the pre time war universe, knowing that the Time Lords can't then attack or strike back at the Daleks that are outside the Time lock.
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>>48117660
We don't have details on how the time-lock works. This is on purpose because the details are probably not worked out. Hell we don't even know who set up the time-lock in the first place. We also don't know how close the barn planet was, etc etc
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>>48117821
I'll just chalk up the Tardis being able to do it, to it being something that was set up beforehand, in a similar vein to the Doctors' daughter from the episode the Doctor's Daughter. Where due to some paradoxal nature or whatever, this event happened, it will always happen, it must happen cause it has no beginning and has no end but it simply exists and it is what is it and this nature allows special privileges where said event can happen even where and when other people and events can't go, occur or affect

What with Clara only becoming the monster under the bed because the Doctor, remembering a monster under his bed, decides to investigate, brings Clara along and she ends up becoming the very monster in the bed that the Doctor remembered and that set him n on this investigation and hunt.
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>>48117821
There are many indications that Gallifrey itself was always under a time-lock. That Rassilon created one as soon as Omega created the Eye of Harmony. This meant no one could go into Gallifrey's past, only to the present. Probably has to do with the transduction barriers.

The Moment, however, seems to be able to trap the war participants outside of that influence in a separate time-lock.
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>>48118041
point is we don't really know and the safties were off and it was off gallifrey
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>>48115482
Liz Shaw, Catherine Tate, Elisabath Sladen, and Paul McGann
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>>48118585
Tennant = best lady Doctor.
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