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Be honest with yourself Was there anyplace you travelled that

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Be honest with yourself

Was there anyplace you travelled that you HATED?

Relatively tame but

>Wake up at 4am to drive early to see Hoover Dam because friend really wanted to see it and we didnt have alot of time left
>A fucking hole in the ground with some water
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>>862176
I didn't like Jamaica, but that's only because most of the constant weed smell. It was beautiful if you weren't in the city
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>>862176
Havana, Cuba. It's a shithole.
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>>862186
You must hate America most of all then
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>>862190
Most of the country is fine. but california, the southwest, the south, the rust belt and new york should be nuked
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>>862191
>most of the country is fine except for half of the country
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>>862176
Western Germany.
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>>862205

This.
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>>862176
Italy.
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Not really, hated, but did have one trip to Sannibel in Florida that followed close on a storm that left a lot of dead shellfish and such on the beach, which smelled horrible and took beach-time out of the equation.

So my impression of the island is unfavorable, but not really fairly.

Pic semi related, I have no idea why I saved it but it popped up when I searched for "shell" in my 4chan folder.
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Ancona
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>>862217
How so? I loved Italy, so am curious why you hated it.
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>>862176
san francisco, la and vegas all sucked balls.
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>>862254
Seems like Vegas is exactly what it is advertized to be. If that was not what you wanted, why did you go there? Asked out of interest, no snarkiness implied...
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>>862220
Series of unfortunate events from Trieste through Lake Garda at which point bunch of drunk assholes trashed our rental car on new years eve, fine whatever returned the car. Separate trip didnt realize visiting Venice in summer would be a literally shitty experience. Rome is way overrated and people generally assholes.

I get people love the country, but damn have I had bad luck in that country. Would rather spend the rest of my days travelling northern Europe
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>>862254
Well those cities are kinda soak up the sun, go to bars and have fun with friends kind of cities, so I could understand why you would hate it.
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Mainland China.

It has a beautiful history, but decades of communism and development made it so fucking dull. They bulldozer everything and their cities are just an endless alignment of ugly towers. It has no character whatsoever.

Countryside / traditional China is awesome, but modern China is pretty much the worst / least exciting place I've visited. It makes me sad that they do this to their amazing country and culture, there are other ways to develop than by destroying your culture and losing your soul.
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>>862176
India is shitty. I didn't see the appeal of a large, disgusting, stinky city full of people trying to rip me off.
I enjoyed the museums and the taj mahaj, but that was about it. I guess I should have gotten out of the big cities
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>>862320
they dont have souls to begin with so it aint no thang

communism really did turn these people to shit though.

you're right, the cities are shit. I like living in shanghai because there is so much partying/girls/drugs/restaurants, but I could only stay here for a few years before I go mental.

What places in the countryside did you visit?
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Bangkok. I really disliked that city but I did have one good night there out of 7. My flight arrives at 3pm October 4th and I'll be jumping on the first night train to Chiang Mai.
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>>862176
Morocco was shitty. Bangkok, Thailand was also shitty, and the smaller cities were boring as fuck, but I'm going back in a month and a half to give the beaches and seaside a try.
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>>862176
After 3 days in Dubai I had seen every single thing the city had to offer. I was there for 3 months. I never intend to go back to that culturleess desert
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>>862334
Yo shanghai guy, I'm visiting soon and have a list of things to do, is an of it shit?
Oriental Pearl TV Tower
Jin Mao Tower
Shanghai World Financial Center
shanghai museum
the bund
Yu Yuan & Cheng Huang Miao (Yu Yuan Garden and City God Temple)
People's Square (also Shanghai Grand Theatre)
Science and Technology Museum
City God Temple
st. ignatius cathedral shanghai
Jing'an Temple
sheshan hill
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>>862330
If you didn't think India is an amazing place to visit, you shouldn't travel. Stay home if you want a clean place.
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>>862334
I didn't visit the countryside that much since my travel buddy was a faggot who was scared of leaving civilization, I still managed to see Pingyao though. I made a lot of research on rural places and would love to visit some time.

I actually enjoyed Shanghai, it feels more like a real, developed city with culture, rather than an endless alignment of cheap high rise. People were warmer than in West / North China as well.

Picture related, some guys who invited me at their table while I was exploring some old area that was to be demolished. It was their last days there before being evicted, the are would become a mall or something. Because, you know, fuck history.
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>>862352
Shitholes are no more valid as a place to travel than non-shitholes, it's just a question of personal preference. You can keep you're trips to India, and I'll hang out in Copenhagen and Stockholm.
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>>862355
How did you like harbin?
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>>862357
Yeah, sanitized, globalized places devoid of any local charm are so much more interesting.
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>>862361
>Real Traveler™
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>>862361
Yeah, dirty, poverty stricken places still inundated with western media but unable to afford to revamp any of their decaying infrastructure are so much more interesting.
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>>862360
Haven't been to Harbin, but from Google maps it seems like a typical boring / soulless Chinese city. I like to explore old little lanes and stuff.

Have you been? How is it?

Related: Shanghai alleys again. It's a shame tourists for visit all the dull touristic shit but will never see those, which are just a few blocks from the tourist hotspots. Nevermind, it'll be destroyed before the end of the year anyway.
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>>862361
>Stockholm and Copenhagen
>Devoid of local charm
For a Real Traveller it's clear you haven't actually been to much of Europe.
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>>862364
How did you like xiahe?
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>>862363
Well yes, they are actually. The local culture / folklore is much more alive and in any developed country.

Go to any Europpean city center and you'll see the exact same stuff: H&M, Mc Donald's, Body Shop, Zara, kebab shops and so on. If you're lucky, some local architecture will have survived the industrial revolution and second world war in a small historic center that has been converted in tourist disneyland, where nobody actually living there anymore (think of Amsterdam, Prague, Venice, etc...), the rest will look pretty much the same anywhere.

India might be shit, dirty and stinky, but it's an amazing experience that radically different from what you can see in developed countries. People still live pretty much the same way they lived centuries ago, informal economy is everywhere. If you can't be amazed by that, well yeah, stay in your boring Scandinavian cities.
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>>862365
I've been. I actually loved Copenhagen, it's a pretty awesome city for many things.

I didn't like Stockholm that much as a city, there isn't much to see besides a tiny historic center that isn't that exciting to be fair. Loved the people though.
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>>862367
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>>862352
I've been to many places, most likely far more than you. And I disliked India the most. Not everyone likes what you like, get over it and stop being such a faggot about it. India has lots of unpleasant things about it, accept it as fact. Some people love it, some don't.
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>>862367
You can see old buildings and ignorant people in any ghetto in any place, the lower class are always the same. Now take your shitty reductionist anti globalization whining about >Muh buildings back to reddit, and don't come back till you can formulate a response better than cane stomping over buildings
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I traveled along the Mediterranean coast of Turkey once, I started in Bodrum and ended in Gaziantep. The absolute worst places are the cities where mass tourism has completely destroyed ruined everything. I especially disliked Kemer, Alanya and Side.
Low quality food, overcrowded, poor water quality, inflation of luxury hotels that ruin the local economy because the guests do not eat in the city, only in the restaurant are all common among these three cities. I don't care if people visit, but I sure won't go back to either of those three. That said, the smaller cities with fewer tourists on the Mediterranean Turkish coast are quite nice
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>>862316
>didnt realize visiting Venice in summer would be a literally shitty experience
Smell? Too crowded?
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I can normally get some enjoyment out of things, at least in retrospect. The only place I really HATED was Key West what a trap.
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>>862431
Oh yeah Cancun is terrible.
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Djibouti was a shithole. I had a better time in Somalia than that shithole, a country that has been a warzone for decades had better and comepletly functional airports than that filthy piece of shit.
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>tfw family has been to Kowloon Walled city
>>862320
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>>862176
Kathmandu. The rest of Nepal is lovely, so the first thing I wanted to do after leaving the airport was get to the mountains as fast as possible.
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washington DC was boring as balls. except for the smithsonian / political district it was real underwhelming in general
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Bucharest is close to hate but that's because of the people. My hosts were negligent aspies and Bucharest in general is mostly a concrete block with a few parks. The people would probably ignore you if you were running through the streets on fire screaming your lungs out. Never met such a disinterested population.

That said, the few people I met and spent my time with in the last days saved me from outright having PTSD whenever I heard the word "Bucharest". I will give Romania in general a pass as I haven't seen the countryside (thanks to my hosts)
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>>862205
>>862215
Why? Where did you go and what did you expect?
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>>862469
Köln and Frankfurt.

I could give a more detailed explanation, but it boils down to these places just feeling completely and utterly soulless.
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>>862264
stayed at plazzo, for the price was fairly shithouse. the novelty of gambling and over priced drinks wore off rather quickly. the casino entertainment is sort of crap as well. out side is a hot, dirty city filled with beggers. the one area i did like was freemont, which was nice to chill out in
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>>862264
They didn't say they were surprised there was drinking and gambling in Vegas, just that the novelty wore off.
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After I travled solo through Africa every place I've gone has seemed boring as fuck.

Anyone else know this feel?
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Dublin, Ireland. Most depressing place I've ever been.
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>>862352
you can go places that arent shitholes though
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>>862462
I will be visiting D.C. soon. Would you say 2 days is enough to see all the interesting bits?
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>>862345

Out of curiosity, what was there to see? I'm going to have an opportunity to travel there for very cheap on an upcoming weekend.
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>>862481
Yes, 100% this feel, but were both going to be labeled as RealTravelers(tm) despite the truth of it.

Next year in Kinchasa my friend.
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>>862462
Like >>862493 said, I'm going to DC soon too.
I'll only have a day and a half to be a tourist, and I plan spending it all at the Smithsonians.
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>>862513
>yes my friend, only we know the truth of it

Then you expect to not be labeled RealTraveler®.
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>>862432
I was in Cancun in December for 1 day. I can see how people might enjoy it if all they want is beaches and parties. The city itself (the Mexican part not the hotel zone) is the biggest shithole I've seen in Mexico. They don't even have markings for pedestrians to cross the road there.
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>>862518
>he's never blessed the rains down in africa
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>>862521
AFAIK there's no decent public beach in Cancun: you really need to stay at one of the hotels.

Talum is much much better.
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>>862598
...although the island off Cancun (forget the name, there's a ferry takes about half an hour) is pretty cool, especially if you get a bit away from the really really touristy bit.
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>>862336
wtf would you be doing in chiang mai? bankok was amazing.
>cheap luxury hotels
>walking around like a giant king telling beggars and sellers to fuck off
>dem girls (go to proper nigth clubs, not whore bars)
>all that alkohol and delicious food
>cheap as hell
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Places I liked:
NYC
SF
Chicago

Places I didn't:
LA
LV
Miami
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Paris.
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>>862218
We used to vacation in Sanibel Island as a kid. You had a bad experience because of the shellfish. It's a beautiful island.
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>>862621
>be me
>visit friend in Paris
>think I'll hate it
>mfw Paris actually lives up to the hype

10/10 would drink overpriced beer at again
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>>862336
>>862337


Lol, everyone seems so split on BKK.

I lived there for a year teaching and fucking loved it. Easily one of my fave cities.
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>>862458
>Kathmandu

After leaving Delhi Kathmandu was paradise.
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>>862205
>>862215

As a foreigner living in Berlin I can say that the rest of germany outside of maybe bavaria leaves much to be desired
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Costa Rica.

I just couldn't force myself to like it. Seemed like there were only two places there: resorts or slums. Not to mention as soon as I got off the plane, I regretted it. I've been to some warm places, but Costa Rica took the fucking cake. Just a muggy, heavy, molasses-like heat that stuck to every fiber of your being and slowed you down. Got a super terrible sunburn and the highlight of my trip was peeling a piece of skin the size of a textbook off my back.
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>>862176
Malaysia. Completely devoid of joy. And its stuck between Indonesia and Thailand which are both so much more joyful. Even little boring Singapore is much more pleasant than Malaysia. After going from Singapore through all of Thailand I entered Narathiwat where a low level insurgency is going on, and it was 10x better than Malaysia. Since my first trip there I've gone up and down the peninsula four times and have always regretted my decision.
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>>862658
I'd take malaysia over thailand any day of the week.
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>>862330
I share sentiment with this guy. India has been the worst place I've visited (Although I'm very glad I went once and saw the cool shit).

I went to New Delhi, Agra, Patna, Bhodi tree, Mumbai, and Bangalore.

The sites and architecture is really cool. I found the rest to be the unenjoyable type of shitty. Different from "cool African village" shitty.

People aren't very nice, and instead treat you so overbearingly nice with this uncomfortable bullshit forced servant complex.

I hate spicy things. Many things are spicy there. Many vegetarian options though.

SO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE. It's certainly no NYC. I've never been to Tokyo so I can't really say if they are comparable people-density wise.

It takes fucking forever to get anywhere, whether walking or biking or driving or on public transport. Traffic and driving is pants-on-head ridiculous.

Dirty (i guess)

Mosquitoes. Huge, prevalent clouds of mosquitoes (malaria).

Seeing really really poor people who are basically forced into certain lifestyles by the caste system makes me feel really bad.

High religious tension between Muslims and Hindus.

No one tried to swindle me out of money, which was a first.

Anyways, unless India is your goddamn thing, go see Delhi, Agra, Bodhi tree, and this cool shit in Mysore and GTFO. Wouldn't even bother with Mumbai.
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>>862660
Not to mention, they're all fucking sandniggers.
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>>862699
sand niggers? i beleive the term is curry munching dogs
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>>862701
Yeah okay curry munching dogs. Anyway they're inferior. I wouldn't go there for any amount of money. we already got too many fucking pakis here.
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Moldova. Fucking Moldova. The currency is inconvertible anywhere, Chi?in?u is ludicrously expensive, half the border crossings are closed at random times, they have a breakway republic in their East, the roads are more pothole than concrete. I spent a day there and that was about 36 hours too long, when all the travel time and general "dealing with bullshit" time is taken into account.
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>>862707
I'd love to visit once for a few days, it sounds even more shit than Romania.

I'm surprised it's so expensive though!
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Loved:
Berlin
Paris
Rome
Innsbruck
Yokohama
Rotterdam
Eilat
Malta
Edinburgh
Jordan

Hated:
Dubai
Doha
South Korea in general
Muscat
Fucking Egypt
Spain (apart from Barcelona and Granada)
Amsterdam
Turkey
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>>862660
>unenjoyable type of shitty
That's a pretty good description. I have been to a few shitholes, and most of them have their own type of charm. India is just a shithole without any charm.

>>862707
Transnistria is whack. One of the coolest places I've been to. You should really give it a try.
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>>862724
How was it in Transnistria? What makes it cool?

I wanted to go since a long time, but I've heard passing the border is a nightmare.
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>>862731
Transnistria is its own little bubble. It's like a Russian version of Moldova. Strangely enough it's cleaner and wealthier than Moldova. There's not much to see or do but just being there is cool because of the different atmosphere. Food and drinks are super-cheap, so you can get wasted for pocket change. Tiraspol (the capital) is really safe, you have nothing to worry about.

I've read mixed stuff about the border crossing, but I never had any trouble. I took a bus from Chisinau to Tiraspol and they helped me fill out the form on the bus already. At the border, the locals just waved their cards/passports, while I was the lone foreigner who had to go to the office. They just filled some paperwork and stamped my form after 2-3 minutes. Going back out, they just collected my form.
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>>862734
Cool. So, did you just head there by yourself, or did you know people? What did you do there, and how long did you stay?
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>>862735
I stayed only for a day. It used to be that you could only stay 24 hours (I think) and any longer would be more difficult. Though I met people in the hostel that were staying for far longer, apparently in practice no one gives a fuck as to how long you stay. I'm thinking of going again for September 2, because that's their independence day and they have Soviet style military parades.

I didn't know anyone, I only contacted the "only hostel in Transnistria" and stayed there. It's just a house owned by Tim, an American expat. He gave me the directions and help I needed and picked me up at the Tiraspol bus station. I paid 15eur for the night.


www.moldovahostels.com in case you're interested.
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>>862474
Well Frankfurt is Germany's shithole, everyone knows that. No one actually likes Frankfurt, they just pretend to since the main airport hub is there. And I can't remember much of Koln other than really digging the main church, so I can't tell you much about that. Honestly, I prefer the small towns of Germany so much more than the big cities. Yeah the people tend to me more gossipy and closed off, but once you get to know them it's fucking amazing and so beautiful. (I also prefer South Germany to the North though)

And I think my least favourite place so far has been Croatia. It got so fucking hyped up by EVERYONE I know with them saying shit like how cheap it was and how beautiful it was, but honestly it wasn't that great. It was surprisingly expensive, yeah the country was pretty but you can see that in a lot of other places. Plus it was depressing as shit to see all those beautiful houses in complete ruins. But in their favour, Croatians are some of the friendliest people I've met with a language barrier. They had the warmth of the Mediterranean folk, but have the standoffishness of the Slavs which make them friendly but not up in your business friendly.
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>>862723

Why did you hate Dubai? That's one of the places I want to visit the most
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>>862752

you know why the burj khalifa is shaped that way? because its supposed to go in your ass
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>>862330
>India
>is large, disgusting, stinky city
>city
>India
Derp.

>>862377
There's no reason you can't do both. I have.

>>862365
Let's be honest though. Stockholm and Copenhagen have their charms, they look and clean and pretty, mostly, there is some shit to do... but they are a bit boring by European standards. I've been to both multiple times, and I do like them, but they wouldn't make my top 10 list.

[spoiler] I'm half Swedish [/spoiler]

>>862367
+1

It's about appreciating places for what they ARE, not what they are not. Indian streets are dirty, but 'streets should be clean' is a Western obsession. Step into an Indian housewifes home and you'll be forced to put on slippers and given death stares for dropping crumbs on the oft-sweeped floor. I found Indians overall more genuinely friendly than westerners BY FAR. You learn pretty quick when it's just a snivelling toutish kind of friendliness by someone who just wants your money. But honestly, those represented less than 10% of anyone who ever started to talk to me. So much of it is really a sort of naive, curious, innocent, shy friendliness it's kinda charming.

For me, only places I didn't really like were

1) Rome. OK, the history and food are top notch (and I mean, Rome isn't even the best for food in Italy, but it's still very good.) It's just kind of an ugly city as far as modern infrastructure goes, and I find most people to be such rude pushy cunts

2) Egypt. Been there, done that. History, OK cool, and food was better than expected. Not 100% of everyone is a greedy tout, but pretty close to it. Worst place in Egypt would be Sharm el-Sheik. God I hate that place. Would napalm.
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>>862218
>Not really, hated, but did have one trip to Sannibel in Florida that followed close on a storm that left a lot of dead shellfish and such on the beach, which smelled horrible and took beach-time out of the equation.
Umm, seaweed, sargassum, kelp and such does smell like sealife. If that bothers you, you probably go to beaches that have morning cleanup crews remove it daily (not that it's natural or anything like that, it's just that people imagine beaches look only like postcards). Not liking Sanibel is like not liking leaving your bedroom. Not liking Sanibel after a storm when it's known to be the best shell hunting in the world? It screams something is kind of wrong with ya. Vampire? Computer addict? Fear of sharks?
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>>862345
>After 3 days in Dubai I had seen every single thing the city had to offer. I was there for 3 months. I never intend to go back to that culturleess desert
This. Dubai is something to see only if you want to know what people can do with free slavery in concentration camps, borrowed money that you don't intend to ever repay and a handful of expat architects. But, the population of the entire city is construction company expats who have to have 1 or 2 token natives on the payroll who they can't fire. There is no culture. They destroyed and wrecked the water supply, the coral reefs and the sealife beach community with seawalls and poor planning. I wouldn't drop $15 in landing fees to this country by connecting through their shit country. And, forget safety. You might as well be in Cuba if you think you can't get in irreparable legal trouble for no reason at all for offending a local or breaking a muslim law. If you travel with a female, and you stop here, you're stupid.
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>>862723
> love rotterdam, hate amsterdam
what are you, a sandnigger?
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>>862474

What you need to realize (and everyone ITT) is that visiting a place and living in a place are very different.

Frankfurt is a shit city to visit, it only has the airport and a few minor sites of interest. I don't really like it either (I'm a Germanfag). But that said, I've visited with friends from the area and it's a different story. Not so bad when you know people and where to go. Frankfurt is no one real 'central' Go-To Nightlife spot, which kinda sucks 'cause if you're a clueless visitor that makes it easy. Also, the countryside around Frankfurt is some of the prettiest in the country, IMO. Wine hills and old castles everywhere, it's quite charming.

I think Köln is similar to Frankfurt in a way, but it is actually a nice city to visit if you know where to go. It's not my favourite city, but it's quite OK to live in -- I did for a few years.

>>862624
I know those feels. Paris can be hell or bliss I guess, depending on your experiences. I avoided it for ages as I thought I wouldn't like it. While it's true it's very touristy in parts, that's pretty much just the very centre of the historic city centre. Very easy to get off the main tourist trail and have a nice time. People were not rude pricks like I was warned, I found them quite helpful

It's too expensive and crowded for me to want to live there, but it's an excellent city to visit.
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>>862493
>I will be visiting D.C. soon. Would you say 2 days is enough to see all the interesting bits?
>>862514
>I'll only have a day and a half to be a tourist, and I plan spending it all at the Smithsonians.
Two days isn't enough, of course, but you can always go back :)
The smithsonians are all great, and if you research a bit about the exhibitions, you can pack 3-4 within a day of favorite things within it, but wear your marathon walking shoes and pack some water. You could just as easily rush through 1 museum trying to finish it and you won't. They are huge. The best air/space is out by Dulles. But, don't overlook some of the independents like Spy, Crime and punishment, newseum, etc. I could recommend my 5 favorites in D.C, but your best bet is to get onto Washingtonian magazines website, and look for favorites. Also, gotta realize D.C. is a foodie destination, and truly the most diverse city in the country, so if there is a single facet of international cuisine you have been dying to try, you'll find it there, and done well. You'll also see a high amount of farm to table, vegetarian haute cuisine, and delicious beef lovers steakhouses and burger joints. A lot of food trucks with twitter followers, and great healthy food. The fittest city (all those military people working out everywhere). It's got a few of the highest per capita income towns, too, so there's all levels of dining. I can make recommendations by neighborhood, my favorite being the clarendon metro for 15 faves (none of them chains). Just look for something convenient to your day online. Also, I do recommend, at night, finding something with a nice view to get a drink or dine. Top of the 'W' gets you above the White House grounds. Georgetown and Arlington have places with potomac views, and the lighted monuments and some are ridiculously beautiful at sunset right into evening.
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>>862631
So many faggots come from the boonies and live in Berlin, and look down on the Rest of Germany that most of the time IME they've never even visited much. It's typical in a way, but a wholly unnecessary arrogance. Of course, there are shit or boring cities in every country, and Germany is no exception, but there are still several other places that IMHO, are better to live in long-term than Berlin.

I love visiting Berlin, sometimes, but would never live there. You don't know what you're missing elsewhere. Berlin is not really Germany, it's just a big city where they happen to speak German. Sure, there's a lot to do, and it's got that pretentious hipster coolness to it. People are generally not that friendly, and it's overall rather ugly and dirty.

I have a friend who moved to 'Germany' (Berlin) 4 years ago. She's never been anywhere else in the rest of Germany that entire time, except once to visit a temporary boyfriend's hometown for a weekend. It's kind of sad, because she is so obviously ignorant of a lot of wider 'German culture' and sites, and this country has tonnes to offer, each region is quite diverse... but she'd never know. She's also rather insulated by other foreign students, so while she does have German friends, and her German is very good, she's pretty much in an expat bubble most of the time. That's but one anecdotal bit of evidence, but it applies to many people I know who live(d) in Berlin. Including native-born Berliners. One of my best friends comes from Lichtenberg but moved out for uni, and he says much the same thing. Nostalgia for friends and family aside, he always saying how he'd never want to live there again.
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>>862795
Just the other side of the coin, you see. My €0.02, YMMV, etc. etc.
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>>862205
komrade
>*tips*
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>>862364
>shes cute
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>>862612
you must be exxxxxtreeeemly white.
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>>862799
>basement dweller with no standards
flat wide face, pig eyes, pig nose
very meh, even by Chinese standards. She has some sense of (western) fashion, but that's a face and figure that will NOT age well.
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>>862848
*tip* elliot.
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>>862931
I've been married for 4 years, actually. But good luck scraping the bottom of the yellow-fever barrel.
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>>862933
>marriage

sorry for your lots
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>>862938
my lots?

It's OK actually, I'm quite happy. I'm 34 now, feels right. One day when you grow up, you might understand kiddo.
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>>862752
>That's one of the places I want to visit the most

jesus christ, kill yourself
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>>862933
sorry m8, but she's cheating on you
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>>862951
try using some memes that aren't ancient, m8.

She's from a culture that values loyalty, fidelity and honesty. If she ever felt like cheating, she'd just serve me divorce papers first. That probably won't happen any time soon since she's preggers. ;)
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I thoroughly disliked Manila. By far the worst capital city in East Asia and seemingly irreparable (the old joke about an atomic bomb doing £15 worth of damage seeming apt). None of the Buddhist charm or culinary tradition of other East Asian countries; felt genuinely unsafe to walk around; overall made Bangkok seem like Vienna.
Only plus was I got laid with a very hot Filipina. Too drunk to perform/remember though, so..

Pic related. The view from my hostel.
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I was surprised at how "Meh" Dubai is, to the extent I can't even bring myself to hate it. An architectural zoo of competing skyscrapers, shopping malls, wide roads, with no culture or action to speak of inbetween. Lots of equally detestable tourists and businesspeople with 5 star pockets and 1 star taste. Their plan is to turn it into a place that will be self-sufficient after the oil money has run out - I don't think they'll succeed (except, perhaps, by making it a tax haven).
Basically Dubai is the next tier after Ibiza and Lanzarote. IE only people who are impressed by THOSE places could possibly be fooled into thinking it is great and exotic.
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>>862968
But, certainly the amount of debauchery in Ibiza would never happen in Dubai. This is not a good comparison. It's more like a shopping mall on the skids. That weird little ghost town feeling, where you know at the tiniest economic downturn, it's all vacant apartments and stores, in a post apocalypse sort of way.
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>>862955
>protip; babys not yours either m9
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>>862176
Richmond, Virginia, USA
nuff said
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>>862968
I wasn't directly comparing Ibiza and Dubai; I was suggesting that the kind of people (alright: working class people) who tend to go to Ibiza and Lanzarote and Aya Napa might take a slightly more expensive easyjet flight for once and go to Dubai, and think that it's brilliant and oh-so-exotic, because they've never been to East Asia or South America.
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>>862483

You should have went somewhere other than Temple Bar.
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>>862466
I liked Bucharest because of the people I met, hated Budapest for the same reason
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San Francisco is a dirty piss and shit filled vagrant utopia full of annoying smug SJW faggots. I have never hated an entire city more than I hated SF, and just thinking about it makes me mad.
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>>862973
Your daddy ain't your daddy either, hurr hurr. Anything of value to add to the thread, or are you going to continue with the lame and completely predictable comebacks?

>>862995
Boy howdy, weren't even no gad-danged deer huntin'! Dem cityslickers prolly don't even know the joys o' tumblin wit yer cousins in the hay, hyuck hyuck.
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>>862959
How did you like the Philippines overall? Where did you go?
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Gaziantep, Jesus Christ.
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I partially hated Wales

I went there on a mountain biking trip. The biking was great, and the scenery was cool too. But a lot of the towns in the valleys are just depressing shitholes, left over mining towns with literally NOTHING going on any more. I also saw about 3 good looking girls in the entire week I was there.
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I hated Japan, but at the same time girls are so easy there it kind of makes up for it.

Picture related.
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>>862975
I completely agree. Virginia is hell
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>>864307

fuck you
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New Mexico

What an intellectual blackhole. It's like a 3rd world country compared to the surrounding states.
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I went to Sweden and hated it.
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>CTRL+F 'Dubai'
>10 Results

I see there is enough Dubai hate already. Fuck that place. I was there for work but had ALOT of spare time. Aside from seeing the B. Khalifa and some of the other buildings with cool architecture, there is F-all to do unless you are rich... or a big tittied Ho with a sugar daddy.
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>>862985
Basically you mean Geordie Shore style #LADS and #SLAGS or anyone who won't go to a country where they don't have a Red Lion pub and sell Egg and Chips for dinner. I get you and agree with you.
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>>862784
> It screams something is kind of wrong with ya. Vampire? Computer addict? Fear of sharks?

Nope, seriously, the beach was covered in dead shellfish that were totting away. It fucking reeked.,

I understand it is lovely normally, this was not a normal time.

>Fear of sharks

Nope.
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>>864327
Some beaches are OK -- admittedly not any better than beaches anywhere else.

And it is possible to eat a good meal in Dubai, if you make an effort.

Finally, the dessert id interesting for those that are interested in deserts.

I won;t say Dubai is a wonderful paradise -- it is not. But it's not all that bad for a short visit.

My $0.02, you don't have to like what I like... pic anti-related.
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Ontario, Canada.

I lived there for 3 years. How can I sum it up best.... An utter non-place. Seriously. It is the total absence of culture, geography, and adventure for the most part. Toronto will elicit a shrug from anyone who has spent time in other major world cities and the other ON cities are write-offs (I had the misfortune of being in Ottawa, which is arguably the nicest and most interesting after TO).

The nature is better than what's immediately south of the border in the USA or in the Canadian prairies but still 3/10 compared to the western parts of North America.

...and the culture, lol.
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>>864406
Yeah, maybe 4 or 5 days would be fine. I was there for 3 and a half weeks. But then again, it's an 8 hour direct flight from where I am so going for less than a week wouldn't be worth it IMO.
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>>864410
oh look, it's our autistic Montreal friend! We missed you, big guy.

>culture
>North America
Ontario is about the same as 90% of the rest of the continent.
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>>864420
I'm not from Montreal but visited it twice (Ottawa was close). Shitty in the winter, but the cold kept us from exploring much. It was nice in the summer, the park especially.

>Ontario is about the same as 90% of the rest of the continent.
I disagree. I visited a lot of US East Coast cities while there and found them interesting and seriously enjoyed road tripping the West Coast. Ontario was just boring.
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>>864410
Protip: criticizing Toronto or Montreal on this board will drag the Canadian faggots like this guy >>864420 into a pissy little flamewar in defense of their boring frozen cities.
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There was that time I had to go to Burnley. That was unpleasant
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>>862176
Cambodia & Thailand. Filthy, dysfunctional shitholes.
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>>864429
Farm country in SW Ontario can be really gorgeous in the summer/fall to drive around.
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>>864434
I'm actually a Yuropeen, but I did an internship in Canada for my work, and spent time in Ontario and Alberta. Alberta has the mountains and shit, though a lot of the people were rather hickish and 'provincial' (jealous country rubes). I liked both places, though I wouldn't live in either forever. I found people very nice in both places, as well as the landscapes. In Ontario, there's forests and lakes and stuff, reminded me a lot of Scandinavia. I just find the butthurt on /trv/ so exaggerated...
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Mexico City was great for about 4 days. Then I needed to get the fuck out. Anyplace that isn't centro historico or main sights is either as soulless as any generic western city or pretty much a shittier, smellier, more crowded version of your typical Mexican enclave in the US. Having grown up child of working class Mexican immigrants, ithe latter didn't hold any fucking charm. Didn't help that is stayed at a shit hostel first 4 days. Dark, loud, cramped bed, woken up by fucking bug bites. Hostel amigo is a place to stay away from. Thankfully second place i stayed was much nicer.
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When I was a kid we had a "travel camp" that took us to various places within driving distance of NYC

There are so many shitty "resorts" in the Berkshires, Catskills, & Poconos it defies belief.
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>>862176
Noumea, New Caledonia.

Stinky dirty city, awesome jet skiing though,
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>>862320
Beijing for me. Aside from the great wall, Beijing is a brown and grey cultural wasteland. The communists intentionally destroyed everything of cultural value during the cultural revolution, so the museums were basically full of cheap knockoffs and communist propaganda. The sun was also blocked by smog the entire time I was there.

Southern China was great though, including the mainland.
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>>864864
Scratch that, it was mostly just grey.
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New Orleans.
The French Quarter was just dilapidated buildings turned into shitty stores and bars. The streets reeked of stale vomit.

Also Louisiana has the worst roads I've ever seen
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>>864864
So true about Beijing. China is one of the greatest culture / civilization in history, what they're doing to it is so sad.

Even the great wall, at least the part closest to Beijing where all the tourist go, is 95% reconstructed and has nothing original. Not that it matters anyway, because it's so crowded you can barely see the wall under the tourists.

I was lucky to visit some less reconstructed, less crowded parts built on top of huge cliffs / mountains and shit was really amazing
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>>864891
>the worst roads I've ever seen
Sounds like someone never left USA.
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>>865080
>I was lucky to visit some less reconstructed, less crowded parts built on top of huge cliffs / mountains and shit was really amazing


same here, I visited it near gubeikou and it was awesome. It was about 50% ruins but much of it was still intact. I was there in December and I didn't see a single other person on the wall in three days being there.
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>>864842
Tell more, anon?

Very curious about Nouveau-Caledonie
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>>864891
> Louisiana has the worst roads I've ever seen
Try Alabama.
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>>862198
the country is fine except where there are people
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>>862660
>Anyways, unless India is your goddamn thing, go see Delhi, Agra, Bodhi tree, and this cool shit in Mysore and GTFO. Wouldn't even bother with Mumbai.

These are the plebbiest Indian destinations and it's obviously you know nothing about the country or what it has to offer.

>no locations in Kashmir, Himachal, Uttarakhand, Sikkim, or the Northeast

Fuck off, you probably can't find India on a map
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I went to Japan.

It sucked hairy hobo balls.
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>>862367
Having read a lot on Venice, spoken to people living there, and been there myself... you're wrong.
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>>864066
Story please
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any time and any place in Montana. the only good thing to come out of that shit hole is high suicide rates
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I didn't hate Venice, but definitely the most disappointing place I've ever been.

After spending a few weeks in italy I ended my trip in venice. the food was crap, the crowds were so much larger, and everything was expensive as hell.

the thing is I had to see it cause it's freaking venice.
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>>862176

Las Vegas

it was probably the white trashiest place I've ever been
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>>865117
anon speaks truth
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>>864066
they just flock to you whenever you go in a club, buy them a drink and you're almost sure to bring her home or to a nearby love hotel.

now im not much into asians but some jap girls are pretty hot, not like that asian scum we got over here
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>>865229
I love this because:

>A: has obviously never been to Jap club
>B: has obviously never pulled a Jap girl
>C: love hotel, lol

5/10 for love hotel
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Tunisia
>smelt like shit 99.9% of the time
>hotel food only catered to Germans
>local food had jacked up prices
>airport was crowded and stuffy
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>>865202
>have job in industrial in-training/coaching, in Yurop
>Be American-born
>mostly teaching employees on their free time in optional courses
>some bullshit research I have to do on predicting employee needs, getting feedback
>it's for a large auto company
>tfw half my 'students' want to visit Las Vegas above all else
>from other side of country, not big on deserts and shit myself
I swear, I have to fake a smile and head nod every time. I don't want to rain on their parades or tell them how plebby and white trash it is.
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>>865194
yup, what a shithole
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>>862660
>People aren't very nice
This is subjective, but I found people to be nice, open, genuinely curious. You have to filter out the touts and beggars, obv, but even then.

> hate spicy things. Many things are spicy there.
Yes, but it's a cliché that all Indian food is spicy. Lots of Indian people don't like much spice either, and it's not hard at all to eat non-spicy food. You obviously didn't know what to order. Also, the north is generally not known for 'spicy' food, so your tongue would have exploded if you actually went to Tamil Nadu or somewhere.

>It takes fucking forever to get anywhere,
Welcome to Developing Countries 101! You're new here, so you should sit at the front please. Inter-city wasn't that complicated or overly-long though. It's a big country. I only had one serious train delay in 3.5 months there.

> Dirty
Outside, yea. Inside homes are spotless neurotically clean. That is the Indian way. Who cares about outside, right?...

>Seeing really really poor people who are basically forced into certain lifestyles by the caste system makes me feel really bad
Shit's real. India has huge rural and uneducated peasant swarms. May be that it doesn't help their socio-religious teachings (Hinduism, Jain, Buddhism, etc) teach that one should generally accept their lot in life, no need to change since you'll have a next life if you're good. I think this developed, along with the caste system, over thousands of years as a less-violent way to deal with inequality and competition of resources.

>High religious tension between Muslims and Hindus.
This affects you... how? Are you Hindu or Muslim? It tends to be chauvinist Hindu-supremacists that are the biggest problem.

>>862724
I have to disagree, I found India quite charming. Maybe it depends where you go. I wasn't a huge fan of the big cities, but they had a certain thrill to them. Riding the commuter trains in Bombay is one fucking life experience.
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>>862737
>>862735
>>862734

You can stay for several days, but then you must register at the local immigration office (lel) and you have to go through some sovietish bureaucratic shit. Stayed for 3 weeks in Transnistria, mostly in ribnitsa, Bender and a day in Tiraspol. I totally agree with anon, Transnistria is way cooler than Moldova, first off all due to its rareness and communist look, also because its a mafia state, but its also cleaner and nicer than Moldova, mostly because like 75% of moldovas resources were in the area in what is now Transnistria :^)

Use couchsurfing or interpals to hook up with locals in advance, works well.
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>>865117
such real traveler going to india. If Kashmir is your thing, go to Pakistan instead you plebs
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>>865242
To be fair, there's a certain type of lanky blonde man who would be considered average and mediocre in the West, who find themselves very popular in Asia. Unfortunately. I've seen it before in clubs.. seeing a tall pale guy and thinking, "Any British girl would say I'm better looking than him", but sure enough, Korean or Japanese chicks flock towards the novelty height and paleness.
Japanese girls are much cooler and open minded about this than Koreans, though. Mediterranean or black guy scan still get laid in Japan. Not so much Korea.
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>>862367
For a Real Traveller, I can see when you visited Amsterdam, you only went to the tourist traps and weren't very good at even that.

For fucks' sake man, if you go beyond De Dam (like, a street beyond that) and look UP, above the shops, you might notice a shitload of appartments. Walk a block or two and you'll get to the canals (Herengracht, Prinsengracht, etc.) and those are all inhabited by normal people. Evidently, the close you get to the popular parts of town, the more expensive the houses get, but they're still inhabited by normal people.

Amsterdam is jam-packed with regular residents. You might've noticed them too. They're the ones on the bikes breaking all the traffic laws.

'Didn't see 'em!'

Yeah Real Traveller, spend less time in the coffee shops and at the Wallen and more travelling. I'm pretty sure you skipped all the big name museums too, cause they're 'too Westernized and mainstream', huh?

Wouldn't want to see the Rijksmuseum and look at a bunch of classical works of art, oozing with Dutch culture and history. Mainstream bastards, right?
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>>862320
>there are other ways to develop than by destroying your culture and losing your soul.
same issues in eastern europe. A people without a stitch of faith and religion, caring less about history, culture, the arts and architecture, just industry.
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>>862361
>Yeah, sanitized, globalized places devoid of any local charm are so much more interesting.
This doesn't hold true in the example you state. But, a place like Dubai is uninteresting. But, that doesn't mean on the flipside that Haiti is so much better than Iceland. If the country is ruined, it's ruined.
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>>862985
I get what you mean, now. This is obviously the type that raves or dreams about it. I do imagine there was a 2-3 years of fun expat glory days there almost like an old dutch or british empire kind of expat days of old, but that's over. And, I still find it lacking in all moral turpitude to give a country with slavery in homes, and in work camps a single piece of your state's currency in order to see some foreign built buildings.
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>>864670
Oh geesh, why would you stay in a hostel in Mexico City? Hotels are quite a bit less expensive on a global scale. When you stay in the cheapest hovel in a hovel, things will be bad.

I love Mexico City, gotta realize it's 4 times the size of NYC and find your neighborhoods and have fun. You'd need about 3 days to finish the museums in Chapultepec. 4 days is nothing.

But, I can understand the air quality making you have enough. Locals get out of town on the weekends and more so when it isn't rainy season.
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>>865164
>Having read a lot on Venice, spoken to people living there, and been there myself... you're wrong.
Not that guy, but it's pretty common knowledge that Venice has a declining population. That few locals of the region can continue to live there in their family homes and even fewer move in because of declining industry. The visitors are primarily day trippers on cruise ships, and it's a ghost town at night, missing the staycation people in the restaurants to any great degree. The building upkeep is too cost prohibitive A city that had as much as 200k people is down to 50k. There may be even tourism reasons for them to leave. It's like 60k now, which is within their capacity on the streets all at once, but could increase. Go now while you can. If the cruise ships don't get some limit soon, and the tourists keep outnumbering the locals, it might get worse. Imagine the past when all your tourists filled the hotels, and when the rooms were full, your city was full with a manageable number cap.
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>>865164
Idiot. The Italian government subsidizes people just to live there. It's not a city, it's a tourist attraction.
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>>865482
The second place I stayed was about a block from the zocalo and actually cheaper than the first place (with less beds in the dorms) at $13 and in a nice clean colonial house. Not a party place (no noise past midnight) but I'm not really a party person usually.

I really enjoyed the centro historico and Coyacan and the museums were great (went to the national art museum and the anthropology museum and la caza azul) but the city just put me off. Too many people, too cloudy and rainy, too dirty. The people weren't really very friendly and I didn't feel safe enough to venture out and wander at night, considering what's safe place and what isn't a safe place can be hard to tell. Hell, last day I was there I wandered into Tepito for a bit before realizing it.
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>>862368
It was actually the other way around for me.
I loved Stockholm, but felt that Copenhagen was a generic megapolis, though I did have a good time there.
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>>862715
Romania is a fucking paradise compared to Moldova. I had a great time in Bucharest, and they have the whole historical thing going on for them. Moldova has nothing.
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>>865605
>Moldova has nothing.
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>>865413
>only trees on the pic
>can't buy food anywhere
>probably eaten by bear if you fall asleep
Yeah wonderful place. If you look for me I'll be staying in a 5 stars hotel.
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>>862361
Evaporate, real traveller
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Capri

All the nearby areas of Italy I went to were quite nice, especially Amalfi coast, but Capri was touristy as fuck, expensive as fuck, and had nothing interesting on it.
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>>865106
>> Louisiana has the worst roads I've ever seen
>Try Alabama.

Wut? Alabama's roads are completely passable and a fuck ton better than Lousiana's.
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France

Bray Dunes to be precise.Was i Belgium with a friend, we were looking for a beach thats not crowded with tourists, went a little bit too far to the south and ended up in France. Gypsis, run-down houses and streetwalkers brimming over with stds everywhere.
noped back to beautiful belgium as fast as we could.
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>>862658
where did you go in malaysia? i enjoy KL, pretty fun. fuck getting around here though, no fucking public transport.
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>>865824
Hampton, Virginia. Fuck the south
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>>865824
Well, not the ones I drove on bub.
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>>865825
what? actually the south of Belgium (the french speaking part) is a euined shithole that is more like Eastern Europe than Western nations. The economy collapsed with the end of coal mining and never recovered (you can see a more example example of this, with worst consequences, on Gunkanjima island, google it). Brussels near the Gare du Nord makes me think of some crazy Eastern Europpean version of Brooklyn.

The germanic part is nice as fuck though, with beautiful cities.
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>>865857
we were just driving down the coast a few hours so i didn't see much of south belgium. ostende was shit, de panne was kinda nice and bray dunes was just ugly. for the rest i agree, brussels was fun but kind of scary.
bruge on the other hand is a truly beautiful place. like a fucking fairytale.
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>>865898
>like a fucking fairytale.
Gee, if I had a centime for every time I've heard that joke...
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>>862176
I hate Florida. Yes, they have beaches, but the people suck so who cares?
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>>864891
This. My friend went there and the only place she remotely liked was the French part because she knows French.
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>>862752
Dubai is a shopping mall with stupid laws in an oven staffed by slaves.
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>>862789
Rotterdam is much like the rest of the Netherlands. It has all the benefits of Amsterdam but without all the scheming predatory rip-off merchants and con men who hang around every other street corner watching for the next half stoned visitor to fuck over.
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>>862985
Ibiza gets a pretty bad wrap that it doesn't completely deserve. There's a lot more to the place than San Antonio. If you explore the island you will find that it is very charming and beautiful.
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>>865928
>French part
>NOLA
>2014
heh.
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Does anyone have places in South America, particularly in Chile, Argentina, or Uruguay that they really hated or loved? I'm planning on going there soon and just wanted to know what other peoples' experiences there were like.
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>>865828
>>862658
>where did you go in malaysia?

Visit One: From Singapore up the center of the peninsula to Thailand.
Visit Two: From Thailand down the east coast to Singapore.
Visit Three: Singapore to Muluka then a bus from there to Thailand.
Visit Four: Singapore up the center of the country to Thailand.

Then I've been to Kota Bharu a bunch of times and since posting this I made a very quick pass through Perlis State, which was kind of pleasant as I was only there for a few hours.

There is a certain joyful feeling that I found in Both Thailand and Indonesia, but I just never found that in Malaysia. Sure it is not as bad as some shithole in Africa, but compared to its neighbors its no more than a giant void.
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>>866176
>not going to Penang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emOy0Rl70Ek
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>>866202
Thanks for the link I'll watch it. I've missed Maluka , KL and Penang, which I am sure are the best parts of the peninsula, and maybe its my lose, but I just have zero desire to return there.
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>>866224
>I just have zero desire to return there

Yeah, I can understand after going there four times already. Malacca is cool but it's really small. KL is definitely more exciting and than Singapore, but still relatively soulless with loads of huge ass shopping malls etc. I'd say Penang is by far the most interesting place in peninsular Malaysia. Dat pre-Communism Chinese culture, dat history, dat food. One of my favorite places in SE Asia for sure.

Personally I love Malaysia, but I understand why a lot of people don't really care for it.
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I didn't HATE Nice, but I didn't really like it much. Maybe I'd just built it up in my mind as this chill seaside town. Instead it was a pretty busy city that happened to be by the ocean. Oh well.
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I enjoyed Malaysia but I would sum it up as a 'family friendly version of Thailand'. Kuala Lumpur was pretty cool and I'd recommend it - on the caveat that you don't go for more than a week (or even 3 nights) and don't go twice.

I was surprised how Islamic and conservative Malaysia felt. Tourist advertisements tend to emphasise Buddhist-Chinesey imagery, so that's what I was expecting (or 50/50, in this multicultural society). In reality it feels more like central/south Asia than southeast Asia. My opinion of Malaysia, same as the Philippines, is I'd only go again if I wanted an isolated 5-star hotel experience with a wife/girlfriend. For a single man Thailand and Vietnam are way, way more thrilling.
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>>866319
of course they can't advertise the fact that they're 60% muslim in malaysia. They want to advertise that it's safe, not that they'' run into an ied on the way to the mall.

that said, yeah, fuck malaysia
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>>862176
Las Vegas

Complete shit pile. A cesspool of awful humans.
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I haven't hated anywhere I have visited but there are certainly places I do not wish to ever visit again. I always enjoy going to a new place even it turns out to be shit, at least that way you "know" what its like at some level and have experienced it.
I would not visit these places again:

>Istanbul
Great historical stuff, the food is pretty good (I know some guide books say its average but nothing was bland or boring and it was all cooked competently), I really disliked the hard sell every damn shopkeeper and hustler does, idk why the fuck they do it, it always put me off buying whatever I was looking at. Also anyone who was more hardcore muslim was really unpleasent, they would shoot you death stares or look at you like you were a piece of shit. I mean I was just a normal guy in normalfag clothing not bothering anyone, those types of people need to learn some manners.

>Pakistan
A bit too edgy for me, there was almost daily car bombs going on when I went to Lahore. The locals are nice, but there is this sort of anxious atmosphere there which really puts a damper on things. I also contracted something from the water/food there and nearly died, had to be hospitalized for awhile, so obviously that's a negative too.

>>862707

I spent a week in Moldova, its not a bad country, I mean obviously its poor and not much to see there but to visit for a week its fine. Transnistria is really interesting to visit too if you have any interest in commie history or isolated communities.
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>>865857
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>866369
he's kind of right. wallonia is flooded with muslims.

It hasn't been rich since it stopped being a catholic tributary, and after it lost its colonies.

The belgian heyday lasted 300 years but they've got nothing to show for it now besides a few historical arcades.
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>>866359
>disliking islamic cultures
>travelling to islamic countries

i found your problem kafir
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>>866384
>>865857
wot

I've been to Namur and that was one of the most beautiful towns I've ever seen.
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>>866359
I find it hard to believe you had such a 'hard' time in Istanbul. I did a 3 month backpacking thing across the Middle East some years ago, with Istanbul being the final destination. It was a breath of fresh relaxed air. Istanbul is easy mode, or you're a huge pussy. Never step foot in Egypt or Morocco, 'cause you'll be eaten alive.

You have to know how to deal (ignore) bazaar haggling, especially with guys who get busloads of naive Russian and rich Scandinavian tourists every day. I actually found Istanbul pretty hard to haggle in, they would offer one price (ridiculous) and not budge, or refuse to haggle at all and keep pointing at their inflated fixed price.

Overall I like Istanbul, a lot. Among the top 10 best cities in world, IMO. But, milage varies I guess.
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>>866387

I like Islamic culture, I just don't like people who are rude. I didn't have anyone acting so rude to me in Pakistan and that's about as Islamic as you can get. The problem with Pakistan was the warfare aspect, not the Muslim aspect.

>>866639

I didn't say it was hard, I just didn't like the aggressive sell. I know there's other countries where they are even more pushy, but I can still dislike it at any level. Same for complaining about the rudeness, it was only a minority but visible enough.
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>>866442
Maybe Namur is an exception. Go to Brussels out of the center, or areas around Dour, and you feel in Russia.
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>>866656
I've been to Moscow and Brussels both more than once (Dutchfag here), and this is still plain retarded hyperbole. Moscow is a legit shithole apart from the few playgrounds for the uber-rich. Brussels really isn't that bad. There are some shitty parts with Arabs and Africans, or working-class poor people, but I've never been shocked or anything (slightly tense maybe, but not actually surprised...

IME, for Western Europe, you can find the worse 'enriched' slums in Italy.
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>>866649
I like Islamic culture too, to an extent, but then I am always travelling solo (or at least single) and the chance of some lady action is always a major factor. As soon as you step into Malaysia or Indonesia, by comparison to Thailand or Vietnam, it suddenly feels like you're in a place where getting laid seems highly unlikely.

I'm not sure what Turkey is like in that respect. I'd assume one of the easier Islamic countries, but still not easy.
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>>866738
In Istanbul, you can definitely pull if you put in the time and effort. Girls tend to go out with male friends and relatives, so you can bet there will be some cockblocking. One night stands are rarer, but do happen. Of course it depends on the 'scene' you hang out it. Punk, rock/grunge, art students, those sorts of girls are just like in Europe (and there are a lot of 'em. For 'normal' girls, you'll usually need to go on a few dates first -- old fashioned, eh?

This is somewhat still true in Ankara as well (though Ankara sucks). Also along the (Aegean) coast, in the bigger towns, you might get lucky as they tend to be a bit more relaxed as well... Everywhere else, you can pretty much forget it, and better to avoid so you don't have her brother and father slicing your nuts off before donating your severed head to Allah.
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>>865104
>>864842
This. New Caledonia is one of my planned destinations...
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>>865119

You suck. Why don't you provide a reason m8
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>>866639
>eaten alive
>morocco
what the fuck are you on about m8. morocco is like baby's first travel.
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>>866897
For hardened travellers like ourself, sure. I've travelled a lot of places, the middle east still has the worst (most annoying and rude) touts I've encountered. Where in Morocco did you go? Some places were OK, others were complete shit. The difference is, most of Morocco (and Egypt) have a lot more desperate poorfags than Istanbul does.
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>>862176
I hated Paris, i found it to be dirty and unfriendly.
For the life of me i cannot understand how it came to be known as the city of romance.

Beggars and gypsies everywhere, graffiti, unfriendly cafe and restaurant service and terribly overpriced.

One thing that sticks out the most is that i walked into a bar to get out of the pouring rain, asked how much it would cost for a beer, waiter said 7 euros, so i said id just have a lemonade instead then, then he said thats 8 euros. Decided i rather just go stand in the rain...

Fucking made me hate the french.
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>>862493
>>862514
DC fag here.

>>862793
Gives solid advice. For food, I'd recommend checking out stuff in the Columbia Heights area (where I used to live). There's tons of small local places in between 10th and 16th streets, spanning from downtown (K street) up to Iriving street. Lots of good Mexican places with cheap happy hour deals.

That's too short, but it'll be okay. Most of the museums and stuff you could knock out in 2-3 days unless you rush through them. I really think the best thing to see though is the US Capitol. Even though I'm a DC local (grew up here), I never actually went inside the Capitol until a couple weeks ago with an out of town friend. The tour is free, but it's a good idea to book in advance. If you just show up, you're not guaranteed a spot.
>http://www.visitthecapitol.gov/
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>>867150
The thing about Paris is that representations suggest it will be quaint, idyllic, quintessentially 19th century city. By contrast many representations of London portray a dark and smoky, Mary Poppins sort-of place. In reality there is not very much between the two in terms of greenery and cleanliness. End result is people leave London surprised at how pleasantly green and bright it is, but leave Paris depressed that it didn't meet the idyllic expectations.
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>>862365
I don't understand what people see in Stockholm. It was very boring, typical western europe city (except wasa-museum). Helsinki was way better. great mix of western, eastern and Finnish cultures which made it very interesting
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>>867150
7€? Welcome to the first world, cheapskate. It's Paris, and that's about the standard price for a beer in a non-student bar. 'Lemonade' is a bit exotic, and juices and mixes and shit like that are also often about that price, especially in Paris. In bars and bistros and shit, you pay for the location and ambiance as well as the actual food/drinks. That's

Kinda your own fault for holding it up to impossible standards. You ain't in Kansas anymore.

Gypsies and touts really only lurk around tourist spots, which are mostly contained to the downtown core and a few other hot-spots. Beggars, well, it's a big city, all big cities are a magnet for mentally unwell street-people.

I don't find Paris particularly romantic, but it is great city with lots of history, beautiful buildings, lots to do, lots going on, great food. Yes, it's a bit expensive, and I wouldn't want to live there myself, but I'd visit any time. It's a big city, so you know what to expect from the people. Some are too busy for you, but that's how it goes. I actually find the 'everyone's rude' thing to be a massively overblown cliché. I have met and talked to plenty of friendly people in Paris. For comparison, I found Barcelona and Rome far far worse for rudeness.

How long did you stay for?
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>>867164
End result is people are idiots. Naw but I mean, who really think that way? If you didn't find any 'idyllic' Paris, ya did it totally wrong.
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Brussels.

Everybody there is a fucking dirty arab. Literally, more arabs than white people. What a shithole. How the fuck did they choose this place to be the capital of the EU is beyond me...
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>>865107
Kinda like most places on Earth.
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Washington DC

The Mall was cool, as were the various monuments, libraries and museums. But outside of that it was pretty much Flint, MI with higher humidity.
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>>867204
>not wanting to pay 7€ for a pint of Corona-tier beer

That's not being a cheapskate, that's being smart enough to not fall for Parisian tourist traps.
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>>867213
Nope, doesn't matter if it's a touristy bar or not. At any typical bar with even a bit of pretension at 'ambience', in central Paris, a 40/50cl of kronenbourg for example is about 5-7€. That's more expensive than it should be, I agree, and for shit beer at that, but that's how it goes. It's because it's Paris and shit's expensive, not because they're trying to rip YOU off personally.

If you actually spent more time in Paris, you'd realize what typical prices are where, and why.

You don't go to Norway and cry about super-expensive McDs, or that they made you buy a packet of mayo. You're not at home, suck it up.
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Quebec
I like canada, but Quebecois are almost uniformly assholes to anyone that doesnt speak french, including other canadians. It is really hard to enjoy a place when everyone there is almost going out of their way to be rude.

After visiting I understood why other Canadians told me to not bother going there.
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>>867204
I was there for about 5 days to see an old friend before continuing my travels.

Look i enjoyed the sights, i loved the louvre museum and alot of the architecture, however the people themselves i just could not relate too, i attempted to speak french and meet them at there level and this just seemed to offend them more.

Also it should not cost 8 euros for a sprite/lemonade /soft drink
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>>867218
I had pretty much the same experiance with qubec, except a little worse.

Was with a group of fellow travelers from the hostel, we had joined a pub crawl,
One such pub on the crawl some popped collar french-canadian asshole tried to hit a girl on our tour because she wouldnt talk to him, real agressive bro, it took me (im a pretty big guy) and two other guys on our trip to get her out of the club with this wannabe french loonie trying to rally his mates to knock us all out. Got out safe, ended up just going back to the hostel and drinking there.

Fuck french canada
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Clem, ily
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>>866202

So I watched the whole thing O.O
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>>862474
I've been to almost every major German city as well as plenty of places in the northern countryside and Köln and Frankfurt were my absolute least favourite places.

Both boring as fuck.
Try out anywhere else
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>>867218
>>867229
>tfw you're a self-hating quebecois
S-sorry, anons.
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>>862176
>Was there anyplace you travelled that you HATED?
In all honesty, no. I have visited many, many places I didn't love (cities in the US including Sacramento, CA and many cities in Central New York State; cities in Europe including Sintra, Portugal, Zurich, Switzerland, and Berlin, Germany; most of Scandinavia; Mombasa, Kenya; Dubai, UAE [although Dubai is weird enough to override the mostly unpleasant atmosphere for at least a few days], a largish handful of Asian urban areas... The list goes on), but I've never been anywhere I wish I hadn't gone. You'll only be there a limited time. Take in whatever new experiences or perspectives you can and move on, even if it's just 'I'm glad I don't live here.'
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>>864891
I can attest to the shittiness of the roads in New Orleans. My uni is pretty rad, though, so I love it for the most part.
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>>867385
I've lived in Köln and disagree. It's not my favourite city, but it's definitely a great place to be a student and there is shit going on if you know where to go.

Frankfurt's a dump though. Fuck that place.
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>>867395
Also self hating Quebecois here. Were the rednecks of Canada
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>>862449
>going to Djibouti and Somalia

I am both shocked and interested
Why did you go there?
What was it like?
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>>867745
Either he's Somalian, or in the defence contractor or NGO biz.
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>>866649
you come to an islamic country, you conform to islamic culture and our expectations, okay?
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>>867797
Don't wanna get all /pol/ here, but really? Do Muslims do this when they come to Christian countries? Generally not. You cannot hold people to standards you yourself do not follow.

I would say 'respect' rather than 'conform' though.
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The Casino in the smokey mountains is a POS that needs to be bulldozed. What a calamity of smoke, shitty sandwiches, and instruction on how to use complicated slot machines. Yes, COMPLICATED slot machines... "Blackjack tables"... computer screens with a guy in a bowtie saying words of encouragement like "yea take a hit on 18".
Fuck that shithole in it goatass. The only casino I EVER wanted to leave within 15 minutes of entering. It shouldn't even be called a Casino... maybe hall of chump change sucking from fat obese land whales with the combined education level of a 3rd grader.
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>>867865
>implying there are any christian countries

the west has abandoned its religion and that is why your societies are decaying, do not bring your degeneracy to us
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>>867895
In parts of urban western Europe, North America and Oz/NZ, yep. We're proudly secular. But we still have an obvious Christian heritage to maintain.

Even then large parts of the US, almost all of Latin America, large parts of Africa, Korea and Philippines are still strongly Christian. I would live to see your skinny muslims ass tell an average family in Tennessee or Texas that they've abandoned religion. You'll be lucky if you walk away with all your teeth still in your head.

Besides all that, plenty of 'cultural Muslims' are very much in favour of secularism and a clear division between church (mosque) and state.
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>>862941
>kiddo
what did you say to me, little bitch!...
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>>867210
The EU is obsessed with forcing "diversity" and "multiculturalism" on everybody so that should be no surprise.
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>>865080
>so the museums were basically full of cheap knockoffs and communist propaganda
wut
I found Beijing rather dull, not to mention it's polluted beyond repair, but really, don't judge the rest of the country just because of it. Other Chinese cities like Guangdong and Chengdu have managed to preserve or repair many traditional locations, and not only in the outskirts.
I had my best time in Sichuan/Chongqing, definitely the best place to do cultural tourism in the mainland.
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>>868202
>>>/pol/

Its about a third (non-EU immigrants) in Brussels, actually. Part of the reason is that Brussels has among the easiest naturalization processes in Europe, and most of its immigrants are coming from the Francophonie, and relatively few want to go to Flanders.

Obviously the EU can't espouse ethnocentric nationalism. Most boat-people are sent back, though the problem is many burn/toss their passports once they enter EU waters. International law says you can repatriate people to their homeland if you cannot prove what that homeland is, and they obscure and lie about it so it takes years, or leaves them in legal limbo.
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>>866656
Brussels isn’t even part of Wallonia you bum.
And the Ardennes is home to some really nice villages, looking way nicer and more varied than Flanders.
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>>864891
Did you party at all? Because New Orleans is a party city, should've come around Jazz fest, Voodoo Fest, or Buku fest time. Also Mardi Gras. The French Quarter is a fucking tourist trap, should have also tried some of the good food. I agree with the smell and the roads though.
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>>862367
This guy knows what's up.

And fuck /trv/ for this "hhurrr u r a real traveller" meme shit.
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Agree with Brussels.
Ugly and dull.
I did all the stuff the locals told me to do. Those "secretely amazing destinations" foreigners don't know about.
That's usually brillant.
Was utter shit. Seriously.
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As a french, the places I disliked the most are in France : Paris and the Côte d'Azur. Mostly because of the people who live there…
I only traveled in Europe and except for the boring Belgium, everything was fine.
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>>868276

nique toi nigger, tu viens d'ou npdc faggot?
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>>868249
Did you actually go with locals? I have a friend from there (she studies in the UK), and I've gone to visit twice. I've always had such a blast. It is kind of a gritty city, but I like that. I find the people are pretty open too, and the girls quite flirty, charming and easy.
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>>868205
Man now I know what I need to do to move to glorious Europe!
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>>862176
Venice. It reeks, it's overpriced and there is nothing to do but look at some buidlings (they look nice though) or sit in a cafe. I was expecting a lot more, turns out it was just an overhyped shithole.
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>>862352

0/10
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>>862184
why? care to elaborarte?
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>>862184
why? care to elaborate?
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>>862330
>taj mahaj
>mahaj

did you go to india because of intrinsic interest or because you found it an essential on a "must visit countries" article you read online?

white people will get robbed/tricked/ripped off in any Asian country, either go with Indian friends or don't go again. especially if you visit shitty places like the museums. you don't know where in india to visit.
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>>862612
wow man! you've been to a lot of places! what a crazy life...

also
>didn't like Miami
who doesn't like Miami?
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>>864327
i visit dubai every summer, ever since I was 15. I'm 19 now and I honestly love dubai. The food is amazing. Travel a 5 minute radius from the inner city and you will see how hard the immigrants work their asses off to eat a shawarma, they live on this.

Dubai is one of the best places in the world to skydive. Even though I haven't been able to save up enough money to do it, I have had friends skydive there over the palm island and they loved it.

The palm island is a beauty. if you are fortunate enough to rent a beach house you will experience paradise. The hotels are some of the best, in fact Atlantis is the only 7 star hotel in the world I believe. The Dubai mall is insane, even if you don't have money there is so much to see including of the worlds largest aquarium. There are many lounges (billiards/pool) that are top notch.

Go to the clubs if you wanna see some of the craziest shit. The clubs there are literally filled with hookers. These are no ordinary girls. You will find average ones and model tier girls. Easy to get a good fuck for upwards of 150 dirhams. Price usually varies by race, (filipinos, chinese, thai are cheap, russians, iranian, arabic are expensive) i've only been able to get in once with a fake ID. Always carry your passport copy with you because foreigners can get away with almost anything (fights, hookers, etc).

What you won't find in Dubai are drugs. Alcohol is only available in bars. IF you do manage to obtain weed by some miraculous way, get caught and you will go to prison for your entire life...a man once got 20 years in prison for having a crumb of weed under his shoe in dubai.

all in all, there is a decent amount to see in dubai. Most of the time it will be shit indoors, but there are still places to visit. Keep in mind dubai is a small city, not a place with a gamut of towns etc. If you plan on visiting the UAE, prepare to be disappointed because you will find absolutely nothing there.
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>>865926
the people in florida are some of the nicest people I've ever met in my life.

this is coming from someone who lived all around the world, including india, new zealand, uae, several states in the US (chicago, florida, pennsylvania, new york an new jersey).

there is a reason i'm going to uni in florida.
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>>869766
>implying 7 stars isn't a marketing gimmick
Dubai is still full pleb for uncultured swine, or Muslims. Take your pick.

>The clubs there are literally filled with hookers. These are no ordinary girls
That actually sounds horrible.

The fact you're so impressed with Dubai says all we need to know about your immaturity.
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>>869699
>>869704
I'm the guy who made a Cuba photo dump thread a few weeks back. Havana just had the worst people. Constantly asked to buy shit or take a taxi. Someone constantly trying to get me into some shitty bars. Waiter swearing at me for saying I don't want to eat at his restaurant.

Rest of Cuba was pretty good when it came to the people. Yeah some asked for my shirt or money but overall no one really bothered me much. In Havana the jineteros were just at their maximum. The city is a dump too, there really isn't that much to see or do unless you want to pay exuberant entrance fees. Tropicana is like $80 entrance, I was paying $25/night for my place to sleep.
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>>862466
agree and I would add Madrid
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>>869766


shill harder
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>>869771

Man you must travel like a complete dick

I went to Cuba about 4 months ago.
While in Havana, I made friends with locals. Had dinner at their homes. Played dominoes with them. They taught me how to get around the city using the bus (which was a peso or 5 pesos I can't remember). One local even offered to pay for my coffee when I ran into him on the street one day.

Only a few kids ever asked me for a fucking dime. And that was only cause I took a picture of them playing baseball in the street. I bought one friend lunch cause I knew he couldn't afford to eat out. However, I was starving and I told him, we are stopping here and having lunch I'm starving.

>that being said fuck the customs agents that stole shit out of my carry on bag.
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>>869766
I have to second the fact that there ain't much to see. Still I had an ok time. Won't go back anytime soon thou.
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>>870085
how are the girls in cuba? they seem really down to earth and fun.
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>>870085
ey mister do u hav a present for mi
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>>869766
UAEIDF pls go
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>>862176
Fucking Ethiopia. You are constantly molested by beggars, right left and center.
Sometimes stones were thrown at us (travelling by bikes).
Totally backward country, cuisine consists of 3 kinds of meal equally disgusting. Had real problem with getting enough calories to cycle these huge mountains.
Beautiful landscapes, but when you meet people, you realize what shithole it is.
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Bratislava

Half of the city is a hideous commieblock and everyone there looks like they're in the fucking Slovak Mafia and I got ripped of 20 euro by some thugs and its fucking expensive compared to other Eastern European countries. I guess its due to them being retards and being on the Euro
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>>870433
That's really no good news for me as I wanted to travel the country in the near future. Can you compare it to another country si I get more perspective?
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>>870434
I was born in Bratislava and I can pretty much agree with all of this, except for the part about being expensive. I mean, yeah I guess compared to Poland or Ukraine or something, it is expensive, but overall, it's still a pretty dirt cheap city
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Malta.

What a boring place.
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>>870433

>live in poverty
>going to spend the rest of my life in poverty doing manual labour 18 hours a day
>rich white guy on a fucking bike goes past
>yeah okay ill throw a rock at this cunt
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>>865825
Agreed with this, in fact the entire coastline of Nord in France is fucking grim. One of the worst places I've been.

Worst place I've been in the US is Albuquerque, what a boring dump.
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>>870656
In terms of poverty it resembles India. Hygienic conditions also similar. Perhaps the population density is not so big, but in the fertile west it is still dense.
A lot depends on how you travel. If you rent a car, it might seem to be a nice country. Using local transport you will get your share of harassment.
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London. Horrible place.
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>>870804
>live in poverty.
>1/4 of population killed by Khmer Rouge.
>live in a shack.
>work all day planting rice and tending rice
>no thought of life other than this.
>rich white guy rides by on bike.
>yell "hello hello hello!
>rich white man stops
>give him some water.
>try to communicate, have fun trying.
>laugh, smile
>everybody have fun time, white man has to leave.
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>>865229
but only if you're white right? Sandnigger here. Closest I got to that kind of treatment was in S.E.A.
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>>864518
I couldn't disagree with you more
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Williamsburg, New York.
I was there last year and it was my first trip abroad. Everybody thinks they're so special or intelectual it's weird. Everyone was involved in some kind of "art" project or some shit. I mean... the trip was kinda cool, but the people were awful. The highlight of my trip was a chubby girl I somehow managed to fuck back in my hostel so the trip itself wasn't a total disaster
I'm brazilian btw.
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>>870870
I love cambodians too
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>>862364
>>862355
Do Europeans/people from developed countries think shit like this is cool?

I grew up in a poor country and it seems so poor, dull and awful. I'm not sure what's the appeal of a dirty table with cheap food instead.
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>>865825
>going to a beach in belgium
Such is life in northern europe i guess
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>>870813
I intend to use the local transport and I have been to places were people can be a pain in the ass (not in india though). As long as it doesn't get physical I think I can handle. I just think it's a country that contains several marvellous things that I need to see before I die. Do you think it's worth the bummer?
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>>870900
Malaysians love sandniggers, partly because 3 quarters of their population are mudslimes
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>>870906
The dream of Portlandia is alive all across the US
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>>871049
Actually I don't know if it's worth. I skipped most of the famous Ethiopian places. People say the flagship - rock churches - are mostly a money-squeezer for foreigners, although beautiful.

Anyway, the nature is amazing there. Blue Nile valley cutting through the plateau, the lakes and tropical forests in the south... I'd love to see Danakil someday, but as much as I love cycling, I don't want to do it in that country again.

When it comes to harassment, it can easily go physical I guess. Scammers there are persistent and I had to bend sometimes just to save myself from trouble. Things happened which I had never experienced before. One typical trick is that someone invites you for coffee, you both drink and have a snack, then the "host" says that you have to pay. These are ridiculously small amounts of money (literally a few bucks) but the feeling how one must be demoralized and desperate to do so is just awful. It happened to me once, but many other people said similar stories.

Of course, there are many friendly people in Ethiopia, but the frequency of begging and scams can make you suspicious enough not to trust anyone.
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>>862355
>the are would become a mall or something. Because, you know, fuck history.
Wow, that's really shit.
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>>862959
Flipfag here. We aren't in East Asia, anon. And I don't know why you're looking for "buddhist charm" and such; it's a predominantly Roman Catholic here. If you want old religious sites, there are plenty of old Catholic churches here and other sites built by the Spaniards.

As for culinary, attend a fiesta or something. I don't know where you went to though. There is a chinatown there, so you should have went there if you want East Asian stuff.

But yes, I agree with you, although I have never been to Manila. It's crowded, noisy, dirty, dangerous and ridiculously shitty. It's where a lot of people from the rest of the country go because they think it is easy money there or something. So it's like a melting pot of a lot of (poor) people.

The next time you visit Philippines, I'd suggest to try somewhere else. Try Vigan for colonial era sites (pic related), Cebu for beaches (Bantayan Island or somewhere south like Moalboal), Palawan, Davao.
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>>871678
forgot pic
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>>869766
>hotels
>constructed beaches
>clubs
Sounds boring, to be honest. But whatever floats your boat.
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Went to France on Business. After I did what i had too do I decided to stay a few extra days and do some sight seeing.
Took the train into Paris.
Big mistake.
The city is dirty and stinks.
The people are ignorant, rude and smelly.
I took the plane home after 2 days.
I will never go to Paris again.
It's a shit hole.
The rest of the country is very nice though.
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>>867218
This. I didn't hate Montreal, but the francophones there are shit. I can't think of another place in the world (besides maybe France) where people get ass-devastated when you try your best to speak a bit of the local language. Anywhere else, people recognise that you're trying and appreciate the effort.
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>>867978
Disagree about the US, Latin America and Korea. Never been to the Philippines but dubious.

But large parts of Africa are very deeply and overtly christian. Like they don't do anything without a group prayer first, people evoke christianity in every exchange, absolutely every surface is plastered in crosses and bible quotes and exhortations to faith, and you'll hear enthusiastic church services every night.
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>>870870
>>870804
>>870433
I just don't get why they don't suck our cocks from the get go? I mean we are white, and we are there. Are they so fucking stupid to not notice that they should suck our cocks?
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>>871696
>2 days
that's probably your problem, right there.

I avoided Paris for the longest time (I'm a Germanfag and it's only about 6 hours away from me), 'cause I thought I'd hate it. Very wrong, but I did spend nearly two weeks. I can see how if you spend 2 days rushing around all the main sites, you'd get a ho-hum or negative impression. Nonetheless, anyone saying hurr-durr Paris sucks, it's an instant tip-off that that person is a colossal fucking idiot and did it wrong.
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>>871748
>But large parts of Africa are very deeply and overtly christian.
It's like going back in time 100 years ago.
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