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I am considering going to the DPRK with Koryo Tours: http://www.koryogroup.com/tours/dprk-north-korea/group

I know there are other tour groups but they seem to be the most experienced with a large amount of options. They also seem to have a good relationship with the gov. I am worried and heavily considering going to Central Asia instead. Has anybody gone/considered to gone then thought better? Recommended things to see?
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>>1271805
I've done research and this company seems to be the best option. I don't know why you would be worried OP, North Korea must the world's most safest place for a tourist because you are under constant surveillance and there's no risk of robbery, terrorism or anything really. Recommend you visit now, seems it won't be long before the US wants another war.
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>>1271805
you will be just safe, just behave yourself. But follow the news closely, north korea has become a hot international isssue. I doubt there will be a war, but you never know.

also: !DO NOT! STEAL ANYTHING OR BREAK ANY RULES, unless you want to spend the rest of your short life in a labour camp and/or torture room.
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>>1271805
>0ptions

What options are you talking about don't they basically all to the same tour of Pyongyang?
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>>1271842
https://koryogroup.com/tours/32

I want to do that one^ and no- there's some that are 21 days and go all over the country. You can look at all the itineraries.
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Have in mind that a lot of tour companies have stopped taking Americans there after the Warmbier situation. I went there with YPT so don't really know about Koryo. I imagine the crowd is a bit older in Koryo than YPT though but it's probably similar.
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I've been there with Koryo. They know their shit, everything went smoothly. By all means go with them if you can afford it. It's not like you get much of a choice going to DPRK, you take what you can get for tours.
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We're not goin to war, nor are they going to take US hostages any time soon. It's typical US-NK dickwagglan that won't come to anything.Just don't be a dumbass and try to steal or plant anything and you'll be fine.

You oughta go before the state dept bans it though.
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Just curious for those ITT. What is the draw of NK? Why do you want to visit the country?
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As dumb as it was, the poster otto tried to take was pretty cool looking. I wonder if it was worth the used car.
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From my personal experience.

Before I went there, my grandmother who lived in a regime like this was shocked, why would I pay my whole year salary to spend there two weeks (I am a teacher and it is a wagecuck job in my country)

I didn't understand her because it was like an adventure for me. Visiting almost the last dictatorship on the earth wow, that must be exciting.

No it wasn't. I returned depressed, and I wanted to go home after the 5th day., realizing that my grandmother is the smartest woman on the world, and from that day I am always listening to her.

I went with the biggest and most famous travel agency from country. I don't know about koryo but there were people on the internet who told me that with koryo there is a camerman covering your every single move (officially to make a dvd about your journey) and this made me very uncomfy.

So if you decide to go, most realistically you will travel to beijing. Here on the first day you will have a meeting where they will tell you the rules in the country. LISTEN to it and do as they say. The main rules are the following:

ALWAYS follow your guide and act as he or she says. (Your guide will be very friendly, but for me it was creepy. It turned out they speak my language which is slovak. Why the hell would some guide from north korea learn this language from the smallest country in europe if not to watch you? This made me very uncofortamble too, our guide denied the whole thing until the last day)

Don't go alone anywhere, don't interact with the random locals, don't make photos where you are not allowed to, don't steal. Just pay attention to the meeting and everything should be fine.

In this country nothing that you see is real, it is only a camouflage to you and the westerner tourists. They will never show you the real thing just a bullshit show.

You will walk in a nice park, when suddenly people will come in nice clothes dancing and singing how happy they are under the rule of the great leader.

cont.
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>>1272378
They will take you to a school, where everything seems modern, and they will put up a show to you using children how the fuck do they love the great leader.

Fucking digusting.

You will go to a big library where magically you will dump into an adult group who is studying english right now. The teacher will be so glad that WOW we have foreigners here, now we can practice our english!. And the pupils are so proud to tell you in english how much they loe their country and the great leader! (this happnes during every single tour to everyone)

They will take you to several war museums just to hear how the reat leader defeated the mighty americans! You will see an american warship, and you will need to sit down and watch a documentary how did they capture it with the mighty north korean army!

You will see the absolute bullshit birthplace of Kim Il Sung, and a water dam built by the help of the freat leader!

The only cool thing to see was the DMZ, and you can watch that from the south korean side too.

But hey they will take you to a theme park, or you can play bowling with the locals (paid actors), or you can sing karaoke with your guide.

I was disgusted to my stomach, and I am ashamed after the Warmber case that I supported this regime. Yes he was stupid for stealing that shit but it is still not justified what they did to him.

It is your decision OP, but you mentioned central asia. Why the fuck would you waste your money and time to see things like this, when there tons of things to see for example in China, Nepal or India?
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>>1271949
Because it's one of the most reclusive countries in the world. And even though it's a heavily guided tour, it's interesting to see the facade. You know the country is a cratering failure economically, but it's fun to see them put on a show like everything's OK. And there will be parts that they can't really hide, or things you pick up that imply a lot about the country. Plus, I imagine that with tour packages you will be getting the finest food and hotels
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>>1272390
>you will be getting the finest food and hotels

I am >>1272388 >>1272378 and the food was dogshit.
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>>1272390
>I imagine that with tour packages you will be getting the finest food and hotels


That's like bragging about ordering the most expensive thing at mcdonalds.
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>>1272404
>>1272409
I don't care about bragging that I stayed at a nice hotel. It's just the idea that you get the finest amenities available, not a hostel or something
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>>1272426
>It's just the idea that you get the finest amenities available, not a hostel or something

I mean it's kinda known that NK puts on the worlds best fake tourist show in the world. You'll always get the best everything.
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>>1272388
>>1272378

Fascinating. Thank you for posting.
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>>1271805
here's some advice. don't go.
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>>1272388

Cool story anon
Mind to share some more info or pictures about your trip?

I never wanted to visit NK, exactly because of the reasons you are telling, and i'm happy i'm not alone in this. It really look like a disgusting theatre, where everyone try his best to look happy and smiley, with the difference that if one actor do a mistake during the act, it probably got sent to some labor camp or get shot.
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Fuck you all. Total misrepresentation of the DPRK. OP it is 100% safe to go there. It's not as the West or Amerikkka portrays it. Notice how America only wants to go to war when the Iran-DPRK trading is becoming a big issue. Go and visit and you'll realize who the real bad guy is.
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>>1272521
Thanks NK poster
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>>1272522
http://www.korea-dpr.com/
I recommend you all learn more on this english speaking website. If any of you speak Korean or are interested Korean Central Television Youtube.com account can be found here on Youtube.com:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpNOyv82HxeojstfqYRSEQQ

Just take a look and understand the truth.
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>>1272524
I bet you think the earth is flat too and you believe in pizzagate
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>>1272524
Wow you actually are an NK poster
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>>1272524
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_North_Korea

this is a pretty good read too for anyone considering going to North Korea

And keep in mind that the money you spend on the tour will 100% go to the regime
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>>1272571
>wikipedia

If I go to Germany my money goes to the Merkel regime that has caused a spike in crime and terrorism and the potential destruction of Europe.

North Korea is a monocultural homogenous country and that's why (((they))) want it gone. Don't believe the propaganda.
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>>1272524
Just defect, bro. I'm telling you, you'll be much happier in South Korea. You can probably even become a Youtube star if you're a qt North Korean girl defector.
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>>1272573
here's your (you) no fuck off back to /pol/ or whatever retarded containment board you came crawling out of
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>>1272548
Typical of you to use such attacks on the DPRK so you don't see your own faults. It's a wordplay technique and in the DPRK it is considered a crime commitment and it should because it's absolutely horrendous.

>>1272571
I can't read it. I don't have web access to it.

>>1272573
Yes the DPRK is actually very tight-knit. Merkel is an international warmonger. You will learn many Western leaders sell their citizens and their wellbeing for greed. In the DPRK people live at similar standard and the leaders live for the people.

>>1272576
HAHAHA you're out of your mind! South Korea is a slave state to the American scoundrels and the capitalist order. South Koreans live for nothing because it means NOTHING to be a South Korean. In the DPRK there is Juche theory - the guiding light to all.

You can learn more about wonderful Juche Theory on the website for Kim Il-sung University: http://www.ournation-school.com/
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>>1272576
Also, perhaps you have heard of Park Yeon-mi and Shin Dong-hyuk - they have both been caught lying. Even the capitalist media can't keep up a lie so big. If you watch KCTV you'd see debunking of defectors stories. But in your media as well!
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>>1272378
>>1272388
Please get rid of this abhorrent misrepresentation. Delete it or I'll report you. Utter misinformation. I assure you, you go on every website to badmouth the DPRK but you have not been there.
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>>1272745
North Koreans should leave
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>>1272759
Your contribution did not contribute anything to this discussion.
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Aaaand this thread was completely ruined by idiots replying to bait
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>>1272736
>I can't read it. I don't have web access to it.
My sides are flying across the room right now
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>>1272822
You know, as somebody who has known Juche Theory all my life I have been interested in how others could see other ideologies as the equal. You seem to laugh because I don't have access to some subversive bastard website lying about the DPRK to achieve their own ends. Is that superior to you? Is it so funny to you? Funny that your government shoves such gross propaganda down your throat? That they don't protect you from lying scoundrel bastards because they lye in the same bed with them? It's funny to you? How funny is your governmen't encroachment on the DPRK and your bastard news saying it's the DPRK's fault. You are all so smug in your assurance that the DPRK is some sort of bad country when in reality the DPRK is every aspect superior from you besides our international image. You know, the DPRK has people who read these criticisms by brainwashed citizens online. And these Capitalist dogs expect if a DPRK citizen were to read their filth they would realize that the bastard Capitalist idea was good. In reality, they read it and they laugh at how misguided you are. Where you have pornography, lay-offs, and toil for no pay the DPRK has the Marshall Kim Jong-un and his guidance. So you can laugh but you know nothing of the DPRK - instead you understand bastard propaganda and the practice of warmongering.
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>>1272845
Is this real life? WTF

OP a lot of people have really thought hard about this over the years... I almost went, but here's what I found...

Reasons to go: Many governments are evil and corrupt but people still visit these other companies, it's not like people are frequently shamed for visiting China or west African oligarchies. The North Korean Government is usually at minimum going to receive $200 from you no matter how you enter the country, but it's believed most of your tourist dollars are currently going to be directed towards the further development of tourist infrastructure and very little is going to weapons development. Most of their shitty money comes from trade with China and all sorts of political fuckery. It's a rare opportunity to see the last legitimate communist dictatorship in action.

Reasons not to go: Your entire trip will be like watching a documentary because you have almost no freedom to move on your own and your itineraries are all carefully tailored to spoon feed you propaganda. People in South Korea and the west may legitimately decide to hate you for your decision, I've never felt so terrible and guilty as when I brought up the idea with a woman who works aid for North Korean refugees. You can get similar feelings and experiences of restriction by visiting the JSA and UNMAC from South Korea without risking imprisonment. Ultimately if you really care about the situation in North Korea you can prove it and contribute by donating to relief organizations instead of holding your genitals and taking prescreened photographs of dictator's statues that everyone else has already seen. You're going to still have interesting shit to talk about. I think it's possible to understand it just as well without visiting.
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Don't travel there, its not moral to visit an regime that brainwashes, controls and murders their own people.
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>>1272893
The human right situation in North Korea is not comparable to China or countries in Africa. It's a totalitarian dictatorship akin to Nazi Germany or Stalinism and should absolutely not be supported under any circumstances
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>>1272912
>>1272916
More baseless lies. Do you people not have shame or was it sold away? What are you? Sneaky Japanese scoundrels or American dogs? You say DPRK's regime is evil? You say it's bad? I ask you:
How many countries has the DPRK invaded?
How many countries has the DPRK bombed?
How many foreigners murdered by the DPRK?
How many coups funded by the DPRK?

Well? I can tell you one thing - it's less than America or Japan or the UK or any country run by bastard people. So I say to you that YOUR country is immoral. Why? Because I am certain it has invaded and done more harm to this earth than the DPRK.

Now I can expect your answer! You've been found out - what do the capitalists and the imperialists say when they've been found out, "But, what about your human rights violation?"

Oh this is some defense now is it? What do you know of the DPRK I'd rekon to bet nothing beyond what your propaganda tells you.

So, until you know anything I recommend you keep your mouth shut on the DPRK.
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>>1272918

If you're really in North Korea you've never left your country, so you have no idea of what the rest of the world is like. All you know is what the regime has told you; if you have any awareness at all you must realize that a lot of it isn't true. This of course somewhat excuses your ignorance, but still it's not a good idea to broadcast it to everyone.

If however you're a member of the DPRK IDF, you really need to work on your technique. You're not going to convince anyone by being a bloviating asshole.
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>>1272893
>who works aid for North Korean refugees
Let me guess? She's an imperialist? An American who out of the good of her heart is helping so called refugees? Likely.

Let me say something on these so called refugees. Maybe the had a crime commitment and tried to flee or maybe they simply knew if they were to leave they'd be treated as celebraties by your propagandists. They are traitors and scoundrels and the few who leave are known to want to have property. They leave out of greed - not persecution. Now, may I speak my point onto them? Here:
The two most famous refugees from North Korea are Park Yeon-mi and Shin Dong-hyuk. They both have been caught lying TONS of times. It's even seen that your propaganda cannot continue to lie about it. Your propaganda admits they lie and embellish and still your bastard citizens shrug it off as "well it still must have been bad even if they lied." If it was so bad they wouldn't have to lie.

Make no mistake of this:
North Korean Refugees = Lying, greedy, property-hungry, scoundrel.
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>>1272920
HAHA you make me laugh. I have tons of internet access and spend hours defeating imperialists online so to your first point I can shoot it down there! I have seen people like you many times and I can assure you you bastard citizens are misinformed!

You prove yourself to be uneducated - DPRK has no agency named DPRK IDF. And again! When a scoundrel is upset he attacks with insults. Shameful display from a shameful man. And why are you so determined to slander the DPRK? We all see through you.
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>>1272925
Are you really from North Korea or are you just role playing? Can you prove you're in North Korea right now? Take a picture or something? I didn't know you guys had Internet access. This is all so fascinating.
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>>1272925

Jesus dude, tone it down. You're not going to convince anyone by being a shrill annoying asshole. And, no, that's not an insult -- it's a fact.
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>>1272926
I can't take a picture. I do not have personal internet. Any personal computers are registered with the police and given limited access. I do, however, speak good english and have been educated in history. So, as my job I correct scoundrel falsehoods online. I do not own my computer I come to work to use it. It's internet is routed through China.

>>1272927
No it is an insult. I assure you I know more of the world than you. I know the DPRK and I know your propaganda both so well. I can tell by your scared defense you know you have been found out. And to the best of my knowledge "shrill" is an insult. Stop with your word play. If you want to spread falsehoods on the DPRK, again, I must ask you why? Why do you have such a hatred for the DPRK? The answer is either because you are made to do this or because you have been so bombarded by propaganda from a young age.
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>>1272929
>Why do you have such a hatred for the DPRK?

But I don't have a hatred for the DPRK. I have a hatred for you. Because, once again, you're an asshole. You're unpleasant. You're a bad advertisement for your country. The way you communicate shows zero humility, zero friendliness, zero humanity. In short, you're a piece of shit.
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>>1272929
if you are real, go to this thread >>>/int/77077189 and make a post
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>>1272845

what
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>>1272845
>>1272918
>>1272921

stop replying to this role playing autist ffs
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>>1272932
>>1272934
>>1272955
>>1272956
I recommend you all go here: http://www.korea-dpr.com/
this is unbiased news on the DPRK where you can learn about our country.

>>1272932
Please remove this post.
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I think going to DPRK is an idea of massive stupidity given the current political climate.

If you play with matches you might get burned. Insanely bad idea. Go somewhere else.
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>>1273026
>Please remove this post

Can't take what you give troll?
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>>1273061
I can get in trouble with what he said. The 5th sentance is slander but still can be bad for me. Please have him remove it.
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>>1273061
>still replying to this roleplaying 15 year old

anon why
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>>1273066
I am not role playing. I am serious it is not good for him to say that because it can cause an issue for me. How can he remove it?
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>>1271805
May you please have him remove the post? Or remove sentence 5?
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with enough luck you'll arrive there right as ww3 starts and be taken as a POW, or just executed
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Korean guy you're a good advertisement for your country, I don't want you to get in trouble.

Not everyone in the "west" falls for the propaganda. North Korea sounds great and you're right about being the good guys. Fuck capitalist imperialism!
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Just read articles about NK, you get the same thing out of it, it's not like you'll see anything they won't. Literally the only thing you'll get is bragging rights, which are pointless given how expensive/risky it is travelling to NK

Just read Peter Hitchens' articles
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-486079/PETER-HITCHENS-North-Korea-great-Marxist-bastion-real-life-Truman-show.html
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>>1273068
>>1273070
If you're really from DPRK, how is it that you posted this at such an odd hour (when you don't have your own PC)? Why is getting called out for your bad attitude going to get you in trouble?
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>>1272571
This doesn't have anything to do with the experience you'd have as a tourist.

We all know that they have human rights issues, it sucks but I'm out of tears.
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>>1273208
Thank you and I know you can some see past it.

>>1273227
What is an odd hour? I work often many many hours a day. You seem to think we have the same work schedule. I assure you we are not so lazy.

And it's my job to prove scoundrels wrong. I can get in some big trouble if I don't do well.
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>>1273259
>I can get in some big trouble if I don't do well.

Then let me give you some advice.

Just about every one of your posts can be summarized as "I'm right. You're wrong. I know everything and you're a stupid victim of propaganda. Plus you're a bastard and a scoundrel."

You're not going to convince anyone of anything by insulting them. In fact the opposite will happen. Any rational person reading your posts will be convinced that the stereotypes about North Korea are true. If you want to nicely represent your country (and it's not so hard, as a lot of people on this board believe that many of the actions of North Korea are misconstrued in the West) you'd be a lot better off by acting friendly, helpful, and open-minded.
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>>1272736
yeah yeah yeah bitch, at least I have 3 square meals a day and can call my leader a fucking twatbag legally.
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Don't go to the DPRK anon. You'd be supporting labor camps and the oppression of millions.

If you want to see a cool reclusive country, check out Bhutan or Nepal. But for the love of god, don't go to the DPRK.
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>>1273285
That's not a real reason.

But I do think Nepal at least might be more affordable and offer more options so it's worth considering.
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>>1273249
I'm not saying it will affect you you heartless idiot. I'm saying you're supporting the regime doing the human rights violations by giving them money. Might as well transfer money directly while you're at it.
>>1273265
>>1273281
are you guys retarded? Do you think anybody in fucking North Korea would have access to internet and use it to post on the fucking travel board of 4chan? It's probably some 15 year old role playing HS kiddo who's bored over summer
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>>1271805
I say this with complete honesty and sincerity, do not go to North Korea. You have to be a complete idiot to think this is a good idea. What, did you watch a documentary that hyped the place up? Did some shill glamorize this shithole for you and now you want to go?

What do you think you're going to see anyway? Something great? The only thing North Korea has to show is what you can accomplish if you use your wealth to oppress people. You're sticking your hand in a hornet's nest.

>North Korea is so interesting, they're like completely removed from the rest of the world. Isn't that neat?
fucking dumbasses
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>>1273365
>Might as well transfer money directly while you're at it.
Nah mate then I wouldn't get the trip.
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>>1273366
>stop traveling to places I don't like
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>>1273281
I have enough meals. And HAHA So what? You have the right to call a scoundrel a scoundrel! When you have a great leader you don't want that right.

>>1273285
We do not have so-called labour camps. We have some prisons where people who are not well-versed in Marxist thought and Juche idea can be tought it and become good society members. The West acts like this is Nazis? May I ask you: which nation has the largest prison population per capita. It's not the DPRK.

>>1273365
There's about 3,000 with access to about 140 major sites to correct slander against the DPRK. I think you have been force-fed a lot of propaganda to think we have no computers.

>>1273366
North Korea is truly a great nation. I'm sure he feels something missing in his life and believes he may find it in the Juche idea. We in DPRK dream of something amazing. We are trying to bring Humanity out of toil. What's America doing? Bombing, ousting, homosexuals. Who's better?
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>>1273393
>Who's better?
Given a choice between the US and North Korea I think around 98% of the world would choose to live in the US.
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>>1273393
go here >>>/int/77119247 and make a post. If not you're proven fake. End of story
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>>1273366

>The only thing North Korea has to show is what you can accomplish if you use your wealth to oppress people.

That's literally almost every country though. America does it too. Argument invalid.
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>>1273418
his post was wrong, North Korea doesn't use Wealth to oppress people
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>>1273419
Yes, it oppresses them via food and labor instead.
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>>1273366
>fucking dumbasses
What is your problem? This is a travel board, for people who like to travel, and yes that includes to place you may not like or approve of.

Get over it or fuck off to /pol/ /leftypol/ or wherever appropriate to push your condescending agenda.
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>>1273418
>every cent the US government has is used to oppress me

it ain't workin, faggot. Later Ill drive my atv deep into the woods and fire a gun off hundreds of times, go back home, smoke a fat j, down 10 beers, then order mcdonalds to my door.
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>>1273379
>>1273393
>>1273418
>>1273456
>condescending agenda
If you go to North Korea and something happens to you it's your fault for going there. Also why give money to an asshole country?

you thirsty ass weebs missed the point again like always and responded just how I expected you would
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>>1273393
Hahaha "3000 computers" In your whole shitty country?

I have setup and delivered more than that this week to a high school in my small town! I'm very sorry you feel so privelaged in your country which is deprived in every way of what we all outside your country are so blessed to live with every day!

Yes many in the west are arrogant, or misinformed, you came to the wrong place to spout your garbage to actually informed travelers who have been fortunate enough to live or travel all over this globe and gain REAL experiences, not what someone tells you to believe.

You are a very bad advertisement for your country. You prove everything an average westerner already thinks about you people. Is everyone in your country a troll like you? I'm sorry you feel so bad with life you have to continually yell "everything is perfect here, I'm right , you're wrong!!!"

It's kinda sad, nothing is perfect anywhere but we aren't ignorant to daily life or hardships, you are just ignorant and so is your country , you are all many years behind 1st world countries, you should join the productive world and quit being reclusive rats.
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>>1273561

You mis-read him, anon. If you believe him -- and it's getting harder and harder as he runs away every time he's asked to present proof -- he's a member of the North Korea IDF. The North Korea IDF has 3,000 members, he says. Not 3,000 computers -- I bet they have to share and the actual # is way less than that. What kind of shit PCs do you think they run? Also, does the North Korea IDF have any job openings? I bet if they tried to recruit here they'd get more than a few applicants. lel
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Oh look it's a 'I just read Dear Reader' shitposter.
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Guys, I will leave tomorrow, heading to Pyongyang.

Does anyone has some last tips?
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>>1274273
It's all set up for you so don't worry about it. The local beer is good so drink lots of it.
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>>1274314
What can I do in the evening? Being at the hotel bar? Or should I bring a lot of book (which are obviously not critisise the regime) with me to read?
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>>1274325
Bring no books!
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>>1274273
yeah kys
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>>1274273
Get a souvenir! Don't ask them, it's ok to just take stuff. It's a sign of respect for them
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>>1272016
You don't actually believe that story do you?
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>>1271805
A friend of mine went there in 2012 with Shilla Travel. Here's his video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdyHfdNH9mI&t=4684s

From what he's told me you're fine as long as you do exactly what they tell you and go exactly where they want you to go. And that's essentially the trip, you have very little freedom to explore. You're just traveling from landmark to landmark, building to building, government display to government display.

At one point their bus broke down in the boiling heat. They weren't allowed to go outside, but since the airco was broken the place was a sauna in the hot sun for hours. Eventually they did go out to wait in the shade, despite the busdriver not wanting them to. Eventually the repair guy came, the bus was fixed and they were on their way. No problems. But this was a big exception - you're not allowed to be outside in places they don't want you to be. In this case, just some random farming village.
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I'm thinking of doing one of the Uritours weekender tours to Pyongyang sometime in October if anyone would like to join.
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After reading this thread i'm interested in traveling to NK
> but it's immoral!
> you're giving money to bad people!
Who cares? Why cares? And who are you to decide what is good and bad?
> but it's all fake and staged
Like a giant theater play
Seems fun
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>>1273561
People need to realize there are N Koreans hanging out in China, Russia and quite a few other countries. Trusted citizens get to travel abroad and have access to vpns and unfiltered internet. They bother with threads like this because they really don't give a shit what we think.

They have N Korean restaurants in China staffed by N Koreans, you can walk right in and order some dishes. You can go up to NE China and hang out with N Koreans. I'm not saying you won't get fucked up or kidnapped, but it's not the forbidden fruit so many people make it out to be. You have to go through the same type of shit to go to Saudi Arabia or Bhutan. Saudi would actually be more frightening because the gov there is less susceptible to US diplomatic pressure bc they got the money.

The Allure of N Korea just seems to be all the ridiculous documentaries that are made about it. That and the fact that people are educated to want to kill Americans.

>>1272378
You won't know what the real rules are until you break them.
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>>1276498
>They bother
*They don't bother
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>>1276091
so you're interested because people are telling you not to? Oh to be a contrarian teenager again
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>>1273393
Homosexuals are very important for survival. The cultural change that widely accepts homosexuality is the best way of population control. No war, no illnesses that might put strain on the healthcare system, and still the population is curbed. I hope homosexuality is going to spread quicker and quicker, our planet cannot handle the amount of humans already.

Work/corrective camps are the most disgusting shit and you know it.
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>>1272912
So you don't go to the USA?
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>>1275956
Some neat old soviet weaponry and vehicles in that museum
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>>1276510
>yfw you realize that many homosexuals have a wife and children and have been happily married for years despite zero physical attraction to wife.

If you don't believe me check out Craigslist it's full of giys who on the outside appear to be sterotypical manly ladykiller studs, who in reality don't give a shit about pussy. Married her because sshe liked the same sports team and they look good taking pictures together, he's just waiting for her to leave on business trip so husband can go back to sucking cocks.

And many of the wives know, but are cool with it anyway.
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Does anyone know if they let you purchase crystal meth and/or weed? or is it for locals only
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>>1276498
I think it's easier to visit North Korea than Saudi Arabia.

Only way you can get into Saudi Arabia is for business/goverment work, or as a Muslim doing the Hajj in Mecca.

So long as you pay for the tour, all are welcome in NK. The US is North Korea's sworn enemy but you can still visit an American. An Israeli cannot enter Saudi Arabia period.
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>tfw an actual North Korean internet defense leaguer is on /trv/ talking smack

We live in amazing times
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>>1276968
I swear these months /trv/ has been swamped with weirdos who are trying to bring politics into this board.

Is it the summer? I think it's the summer.
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Travel to North Korea has been banned. Looks like the cuckservatives and liberal bitches found something they can agree on.
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>>1276928
As an arab israeli who is muslim your last sentence is false, i've did Umrah (a mini version of the hajj year round) 4 times, you just have to issue a temporary travel document and fly via jordan, i've been to Mecca, Medina and Jaddah so far
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>>1277064
Disgusting. Leave this board now.
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>>1276928
This is bullshit hahahah
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>going to NK in September
It's going to be interesting.

>>1277031
Only if you're American. Other nationalities are fine to go.
>land of the free
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>>1271821
>!DO NOT! STEAL ANYTHING OR BREAK ANY RULES
This is pretty much it. By all accounts you'll be led around by someone the whole time, so there are few real "tips" besides this. The rules also seem easy enough and the guides won't report you for some mistake, so just listen to them and don't be dumb and you'll be fine.
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>>1277070
Is it really that hard to book a tour? Well I guess if you're American it is now.
Act your age.
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>>1272404
>and the food was dogshit.
This part really piqued my interest, as this is mentioned pretty specifically in the Vice video on N. Korea. Could you elaborate on the shitty food? Details, comparisons, how did they try to dress it up to make it look non-shitty, etc.
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>>1278006
Bumping for this

I was going to book a tour a few years ago and the food was the only thing that stopped me......looks like I missed my chance.
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>>1273026

The website put up by that Spanish fag Alejandro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKCbkW-BN6k
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I've been trying to get ahold of some Taedonggang, but no luck.

Would you guys have any idea of how I can import a bottle?

If any of you are headed to NK in the near future, I'd be happy to pay for you to post me a bottle (presumably from China or your home country).
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>>1272388

When I went, it was with koryo tours and it was nothing like this, though I went on a private tour, just me and my dad. Wouldn't surprise me if the group tours are shit because group tours are always shit no matter what country you are in.

>>1272390

I felt it was like going back in time to 70s/80s. Also I would reccomend only going if you have an interest in historical communism, otherwise you will probably be bored.

>>1272404

We got really good food.
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>>1272573
No fucktard, Germany is a capitalist democratic country, most of the money you spend will go to the pockets of private businesses and citizens.

However 100% of the money you spend in North Korea will go to the murderous regime of Kim Jong-Un because it's a communist state.

Keep shilling for communist mass murderers, you are the ultimate cuck. (As you poltards like to say).
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>>1271805
There's no such thing as North Korea, it's just a prank bro.
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Hey guys, I am back from my trip >>1274273


>>1274314
Beer was really good. Also great trip. Would totally recommend.

>>1275926
I had 3 books with me, all in German. Had no problems, although I had to bring them to the desk together with my laptop, camera and iPhone.

>>1275939
I have some souvenirs, check the picture.
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>>1278006
>>1278057
I just came back this week. Food was not really that shitty in my opinion. They always seve on minimum 7 plates with different food. Some of them is terrible, while other things are pretty good. It is always way too much food and in the end you will get a bowl of rice, in case you did not have enough.
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>>1272390
>Risking your safety and freedom to visit a meme country
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>>1281379

Yeah, I can't quite put it into words myself. Sure it's a novelty, sure it's an experience you will never experience anywhere else. But is it worth it?

A lot of the people asking about it seem to have little travel experience and want to do something that seems extreme. I'm sure they'd get a lot more life experience out of a crazy three weeks in SEA or Europe than a mollycoddled bus tour of the NK propaganda machine with a handful of fellow foreign weirdos and tour guards who will never have an honest moment with you.

It's a bit like a shark cage maybe, there's an image of danger and isolation but not much actual risk. Though recent developments are changing that.
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I would really love to go there, but it's very expensive for me and I figure I can do a million other better things for the same price, considering I have never been to Asia in general.
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>>1272388
second, nepal was cheap, cool a/f and 90% of what i did for two weeks was fuck around kathmandu and get tattooed
>great rates for bamboo tattoos
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>>1271821
>>1272016
There's some pretty strong indications that he never tried to steal any poster, and that the whole thing was just made up by NK as an excuse to arrest him because he was American.

They also arrested and held an 80-ish year old American a few years ago, because he was a veteran of the Korean War and hence a "war criminal" according to the Kims.
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>>1272521
>>1272524
You have been made a moderator of /r/Pyongyang
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>>1281758
What are those indications? Plenty of Americans have been to DPRK without incident.
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>>1281758
Many US websites wrote about the poster. If it is really just from the DPRK, these websites would totally disagree.

>>1281404
I guess in this case, visiting other Asian countries is a way better option. Like all these cheap south east asian countries. In the DPRK you can't really see how a usual asian country looks like.
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>>1271805
I would go for the Cold War era feel to be honest. Bugged rooms, surveillance 24/7, Orwellian tour guides that follow you around, staged interactions with "locals".

It feels like a Bond movie or one of those spy thrillers taking place in the Soviet Union. Must be pure adrenaline just breathing that totalitarian air.
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>>1281822
>Many US websites wrote about the poster. If it is really just from the DPRK, these websites would totally disagree.

They're reporting it because that's what he said he did during his "trial" last year before they sentenced him to 15 years of hard labor, and they have nothing else to report because North Korea hasn't said anything more specific than Communist Legalese.
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>>1282088
I have a similar motivation to travel there, it would be the closest to entering a time machine and visiting the 1950's.
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>>1281758
>They also arrested and held an 80-ish year old American a few years ago, because he was a veteran of the Korean War and hence a "war criminal" according to the Kims.
Haha guys calm down I was just a member of the enemy army during the earlier part of the war that is still ongoing so I'm basically a civilian at this point why are you arresting me lmao
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>>1281762
You actually believe the story that his church paid him a used car to steal it because the priest hated the North Korean people and wanted to deal a blow to their working moral? Really? You believe that he broke into a forbidden floor to commit a "crime deed" (poorly translated Korean).
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>>1282241
I don't understand your irrelevant hyperbole at all. Do you have some evidence for your claim or are you going to continue nonsensical ranting?
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