ITT: Cities stuck in the 80's/90's.

in some ways tokyo feels like it's stuck in the later 20th century despite its futuristic image

Budapest

>>1246174
I know they still use fax machines but other than that, how?

>>1246133
anywhere north of watford, in england

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>>1246360
Harsh but true.

>>1246351
DVDs are still popular--rental stores like Blockbuster used to be in the US are still plentiful. Many people use flip phones (although mainly older people). People use Yahoo, which is not obsolete per se, it just echoes pre Google America.

In addition a lot of Japan is in a state of what I'd call immaculately maintained run-downness. A lot of buildings in Japan are kind of shabby and old but they're immaculately maintained and everything is super clean. So it has a old kind of feel.

And yes, fax. Though I've never understood what is so wrong or obsolete about fax machines anyway. Nowadays they're built into officer scanners/copy machines. They're as convenient as anything. Am I wrong?

Vang Vieng

sorry im a retard but what city is that?

>>1246452
explain? I wanna go to laos

>>1246133
Any city in India

>>1246133
holy shit, this is dead fucking on

Saint Louis feels like a city in purgatory

Most of Japan, to be honest.

>>1246543
St. Louis

>>1246654
how so?

>>1246727
Isnt that the city that the trendy shouted "you're a white male". Because their ideology certainly is stuck in the past.

>>1246419
Don't forget all the arcades. As anti social as Japan is, they somehow managed to maintain the social face to face aspect of technology which almost feels refreshing. It's kind of cool to see two strangers playing street fighter together. Comic stores are still hang outs too.

I would add Hong Kong to the list although I haven't been there in a while, maybe it has updated recently.

>>1246654
i love it

>>1246543
Chicago

>>1246419
>am I wrong?

No man you're not, have you ever gotten a computer virus via a faxed document? No you haven't. I think the tech is just fine and seems very professional.

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>>1246654
>>1246727
I'm not a Saint Louis native, but I have quite a few friends from there. I'm not so much shitting on Saint Louis as I am pointing out how the city has just been treading water for the last few decades.

It's hard to put it into words, the city just feels like it hasn't moved on from the late 90's, early 2000's at best. Whereas the downtowns of most other American cities have been revitalized, downtown Saint Louis is dead after normal business hours. The only exception being during a baseball game, but then the activity is highly concentrated to a few square blocks. City/civic pride revolved almost solely around their baseball team.

Gentrification of old neighborhoods has been slow, the inner city still has a high amount of crime. Local politicians are Chicago-tier corrupt, and there is very little development of new tech-companies in the city.

The city just feels out of step with cultural movements of the past 10 years. There isn't much of an arts or food scene to speak of (or at least, the city punches waaaaay under it's weight). One might assume the city to be a hotbed for craft beer, given that Anheuser Busch has it's main bottling plant there. But I get the feeling that AB has done a lot of work snuffing out/buying up any quality upstart breweries. To their credit, Missouri's alcohol laws are absolutely based, but the craft beer scene is leagues behind what's happening on the west coast. In my experience most popular restaurants and bars are found in the suburbs, not the city.

Just a mediocre city, nothing remarkable, and it's been that way since the 90's.

The airport is also ass.

>>1246866
Odd because it's was a major gateway city. The late airline TWA had a major hub there and it was the second largest garment area which specialized in shoes.

>>1246866
>There isn't much of an arts or food scene to speak of

I thought STL was huge on BBQ.

>>1247083
it's really overshadowed by KC and Tennessee bbq 2bh

>>1246866
kind of reminds me of tacoma WA

>>1247137
Tacoma is basically what Seattle would have been if tech hadn't come into the area. Seattle was fucked until Microsoft started

>>1246133
All of Wales. Cardiff thinks it's modern because it has apartment uildings OVER 8 STOREYS HIGH, but it's just become slightly less of a shitpit with balconies.

>>1247899
Wales has the economy of eastern europe, its expected.

>>1246419
>A lot of buildings in Japan are kind of shabby and old but they're immaculately maintained and everything is super clean
All the ones I've seen could use a good power-washing

>>1247056
Then the government missiled TWA 800 and garment manufacturing went to asia. No surprise STL was left behind.

>>1246133
Albuquerque

Nobody outside of NM even thinks about this shithole anyway but it's basically stuck in time. Other nearby cities like Phoenix and Denver have all made massive improvements and are growing in both population and jobs. Abq sees what these cities do, then tries to implement a half retarded version of it that never works out.

The real depressing part is that if you go into mexico to shit cities like Juarez or Tijuana they look strikingly similar to Abq. Much moreso than Abq looks similar to other first world cities.

>>1246819
Why?

I'm going to visit soon. Give me your best.

>>1246866
>restaurants and craft beer are the barometer of a city's culture

St Poois is trash but you should kill yourself

>>1246866
I like St Louis, but then again, I'm a Cardinals fan from out of state.

>>1248123
>>restaurants and craft beer are the barometer of a city's culture
I'm not a big beer nerd, personally, but I am an urbanite who likes cities, and think that decent restaurants are way up there for appropriate barometers for city culture. I would also advocate for walkable neighborhoods/good transit, and a good arts scene.

>What do YOU consider a useful barometer for city culture?

>>1246654
I live an hour away and I totally feel this lmao. Hate that city desu

at least St. Louis still has a NFL team. oh, wait. nevermind..

>>1246419
Older tech is also still widely used. For example Fujifilm stills sees a good portion of profit from analog photography.

>>1246133
>tfw OP image is your home town but you live 3000 miles away and you haven't lived there in six years but the post still makes you sad

>>1246419
The best part of Japan is that old buildings with their original use are still used, but that as soon as that use is done its torn down and replaced with something modern

Tashkent, Uzbekistan

>>1247083
St. Louis has provolone pizza and toasted ravioli.

>>1250034
So does Tashkent, Uzbekistan

Montreal

Right?

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Can confirm that St. Louis sucks camel cock. Went there for university. Everyone is dead behind the eyes. Most droll, vapid, useless, lifeless city in America. The only cool people are people from other states or black people. Mid-westerners in general tend to be dry or sometimes on the boring side, but STL is the nexus of all that is shitty about the mid-west. Food = Fried Bland Ass
Nightlife = Boring Casino Stripper Ass
Sports = Cardinals R Life Faggotry Ass
Arts = Where.Ass?
Downtown = Black Ghost Ass
Suburbs = Better Off Dead Garbage Ass
Music = Occasional good blues, or Ass
Women = Pretentious Religious No Ass

Really fucking hated it there. I didn't recover for like a full year after I went home. I was relating to people as if I still lived there, as in not relating to anybody because people there are so scared to meet new people. Geography also sucks ass.

It's as if cities develop at a snail's pace the further away they are from sea water.

>>1246690
Lol I'm from Saint Louis. It's definitely a city of hidden gems....also very cheap. You've been to the city museum right? Cafe Venice? The Cotton Belt?

>>1246866
Have you even been to Perrenial Brewing? It wins national awards....

Urban Chestnut? Civil Life? Shit, Earthbound Brewing is opening a tasting room in a cave brewery from 150 years ago. And the city is becoming gentrified as fuck. I get the feeling you're in the county...

>>1250334
Go ahead and move three hours east. STL is dead, KC runs this state.

>>1246863
Faxes are not secure.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-09-09/business/9003150519_1_fax-facsimile-machine-tapping

"Apparently, anyone with a little knowledge of electronics can tap fax messages being sent from one of these relatively unsophisticated machines to another, with the duplication printed out on the pirate`s facsimile machine. Both the sender and the receiver of the faxed document remain completely unaware that they have been bugged."

Minneapolis Minnesota. The whole region really, but that city in particular. Young people still seem apart of the "mall" culture of the 80s 90s, even if they don't go to malls (which many do cause Mall Of America). Also, only places I've seen large numbers of goths teens. Not scene or emo or steampunk, vintage goth.

Was pretty cool. Also a bit of a shit hole though so yeah.

>>1251153
I'm thinking of moving to Minneapolis from NYC. Why shouldn't I do it?

>>1246816
actually they have two cabinets so people can fight each other on their own screen which is honestly better.

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>>1248021
>The real depressing part is that if you go into mexico to shit cities like Juarez or Tijuana they look strikingly similar to Abq.
This is an insult.

Here in Juarez we're actually growing shit.

>>1251174
Because we're full.

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>>1246133

I've lived in this shithole for most of my life and now that I have money I try as hard as possible to always be going out somewhere else just so I don't have to deal with being here anymore. All my family being from here and the rest of the Missouri always sucks me back though sadly.

The only thing that really consoles me is at least I don't live in Illinois, which is even bleaker looking than Missouri with it's flat treeless land, massive garbage dumps, industrial plants, and bland cities that all look the same aside from Shitcago itself. I passed through Indianapolis once as well and it looked pretty underwhelming even compared to St. Louis.

Our Summers are ballsweatingly muggy and our Winters are wet and dreary so Autumn is best. If you're around in early September we are host to Ride of the Century, so if you're around major roads downtown you can watch several hundred punks on streetbikes do sick stunts and blatantly troll cops in full public view; i recommend that at least. There's also a pretty cool 2-3 day Japanese Festival held early September at Shaw's Garden, which is actually pretty chill to walk around any time of the year, and it's very cheap.

We also have STL Sharpshooters: a massive gun range where you can rent firearms, but also a BBQ restaraunt where you can get a damn tasty rack of ribs; It's American as fuck.

If you guys like Nature go south a bit and explore the foothills of the Ozarks. You should also do this in Autumn so you don't get ate up by ticks and shit. There's Elephant Rock State Park; go climb some giant granite boulders while drunk and hurt your legs fucking up a 10ft jump.

The Arch is fucking overrated; from the top all you can really see is a bland city or the Cahokia mounds in Illinois, which aren't even that interesting as a history buff imo. If you stand under it and look up though it feels like you're on one of those ring worlds in Halo which is kind of amusing.

and yeah go to Urban Chestnut for beer.

Also,

East St. louis isn't real St. Louis. Stay the fuck on the Missouri side of the River.

>>1253360

I like the sound of STL, as a visitor wanting to experience cities that haven't been entirely polluted by hipster trash and overrun with organic bakeries and craft beer etc. Despite being somewhat dreary to inhabitants it at least sounds authentic, not completely false and hollow like NYC which is a shell of its former self.

>>1253365

That's where all the murder happens right? I recall hearing that name in connection with The First 48 or similar crime show.

>>1253460

>as a visitor wanting to experience cities that haven't been entirely polluted by hipster trash

Well we got some of that as well. That's mostly around Tower Grove, Maplewood, and the Central West End in my experiences though. Don't forget this place is where Carl the cuck was at.

>>1246133
Santiago, Chile

>>1250101
There's an Art Museum there also Museum of Transpotation. Vincent Price grew up there.

>>1253555
And yet the places you just listed are the only parts of town where a pedestrian can have a good nightlife experience.

Saint Louis is alright. Good museums for our size, decent bar scene (now), the City Museum, and good music. Nothing super exciting though.

>>1246133
I went to st.louis recently with my girl friend to see where my dad was buried. Google maps app took us to the center of the hood or some shit at like 1am when we got there, and took us right in the middle of some fucking fast and the furious style street race bullshit. Except there was no vin desiel just black people with liquor. Fucking the black people blocked the road off and everyone was turning around except us because i fucking suck at driving and would of got lost if i didnt follow the google maps app. We just drove through it. It was dumb and fucking people kept passing us trying to race. The entire time we were there we saw very few.white people, mostly in thr touristy places like the arch or the resturarants and shit

>>1253903
The st.louis skyline was fucking pretty cool though.

>>1253903
Quite a few cities have drag races on public streets. Cross Bay Blvd in Queens was notorious for that.

Some neighborhoods in Orlando are on a hipster upswing, but the whole International Drive/Disney tourist area has so much money poured into it and foreigners have no taste so it stays put. EPCOT suffers from this alot. Funspot still exists. All the Pirate themed restaurants and they finally got rid of moon man at McDonalds.

Here's a good example of what it's like to be unstuck in time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6ClysXM8yQ

>>1249831
oh no a team that struggled to go 50/50 every year left us

>>1253905
And you can always time your trip to catch some NFL action...

Oh wait...

>>1246174
>>1246351
>>1246419
>>1246663
There's actually a term for this - "Galapagos Syndrome" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gal%C3%A1pagos_syndrome


Funnily enough, I live in Australia and still use a fax machine a few times week at my office. I think most companies and all big companies would still have one just in case.

>>1248021
I love ABQ. I find it's aesthetic very charming and unique among US cities

>>1249971

To be frank, Tashkent looks...Like the North Korean town that you take journalists to tour around in, but they're not allowed to leave the town.

>>1250038
Nope, not at all. What would make you think that?

>>1246419
Fax is actually standard practice still in certain sensitive data industries, ie. medical patient data.

>>1250034
Most of the Midwest does.

I know for a fact Illinois, Ohio, and Kansas all do it.

>>1253365
Oh, no, it is actually the realest part of Saint Louis, but in all the worst ways.

East Saint Louis has all the jobs, all the cheapest housing, as well as all the most accessible markets.

The issue is that it is also the part of Saint Louis with the highest crime rate, specifically, in murder and violent crime.

It is also the second most corrupt side of the city, and has the largest gap in minorities.

Real shame too, because about thirty years ago East Saint Louis had it all, but almost none of the crime that runs rampant in it now.

>>1254677
East St. Louis was a railroad hub. It was the second largest after Chicago. When all the railroads got merged it was the end.

>>1246654
>>1246727

It's the niggers.

Saint Louis -- Missouri
East Saint Louis -- Illinois

>>1255049
Criminals,fucker. Most brothers and sisters have jobs and go to church.

>>1246133
Every bulgarian city

assuming you mean 1880/1890

>>1249899
tfw, its your home city but you live literally over 9000 miles away, havnt lived there is 12 but the post still makes you sad.

I know the feels anon, I know the feels.

Why did you leave?

on side note, STL ribs are so famous I can get them in Singapore. My Budweiser is still brewed in STL.

Im constantly thinking about moving home.

this is depressing for someone who is about to go to washington uni in st louis..