I lurking on my cellphone, so I will create this thread first

So... I am brazilian, and things are bad here. Economic crashed on Dilma Roussef's government, there is no jobs and I think in imigrate.

Here I can go? I thinked in Holland, seems like a good country and maybe I can have a college education.

Or Australia, Irland...

Other option is try to be a flight attendent on Emirates but the selection is hard, from what I heard.

Sorry for my bad english.

TL, DR: I wanna leave Brazil and study/work in another country, which is the best option?

>Where I can go?
>I think about immigrating

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>>1242290
If you don't want to learn English (and you already seem pretty good), try Portugal.

>>1242295
Actually, although I'm not a big fan of the English language, I intend to learn at least English, Russian, French, and German. Kek.

Portugal looks good, but the economy is not in good shape, right? I don't know much about it. How difficult is it to get a job there?

And of course, there is concern about the security and infrastructure. Brazil is not a safe place, I do not wanna live with fear of being robbed or killed every single day.

Portugal looks way better on this matter.

>>1242288
You could go to Peru and Colombia. They have the best economic results in South America.

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>>1242321
Still 3rd world countries

>>1242326
Vá se foder, seu merda. Se você quer continuar nessa latrina o problema é seu.

Trouxa.

>>1242294
>not fixed

>>1242462
>I thinking about immigrating

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>>1242316
yhea, Portugal is pretty safe, I actually think its one of the safest countries in the world
desu, for a brazilian, Ireland, Portugal, Italy or Spain seem like a nice option for you

>>1242473
Still not fixed.

>>1242290
>there is no jobs

First of all, learn English.
Second, there aren't jobs for unqualified people, it looks like this is your case.
Do you really think that you can find a good job with your qualifications? Hue.

The portugese economy is still much better off than yours.

I think your main problem is getting a working visa for a first world country, we do not really hand them out in masses to uneducated people, especially in times like these.

>>1242781
I am descendent from french and german people, maybe I can get the nacionality. And I want to work and study, what is the problem of being unqualificate?

>>1242832
>nationality
>non qualificate

>>1242315
>Actually, although I'm not a big fan of the English language
Wow, such attitude.

I'm from Miami OP, and 30% of the people who land in Miami are Brazilian. There are jobs. I'm guessing you simply don't want to study or to work. Flight attendant? You just want to travel. Considering your English writing? I can't imagine you will get a competitive job if your speaking quality is anything like it.

>>1242841
I will improve my english, living in a english speaker country is easier to learn. Yes, I want to study and work, and if I do that traveling what is the problem?

Jobs in USA are easy to get? In Brazil we have 14 million people unemploye and the number are raising, the minium wage doesn't garanteed nothing. The quality of life is way better in the united states.

>>1242832
>>1242866
>guarantee

I know, my english sucks. But I live in a no english speak country. Try to learn spanish and let me see will be.

>>1242764
>First of all, learn English

I think we are speaking english, hun?

Do not believe a word OP says.

He is a paid shill for the communist socialist party that got BTFO last year.

>>1242872
Don't belive me, Brazil is safe, full of jobs, infraescture, the economic is growing exponencial and everyone here is happy

Kek.

>>1242832
Unless you have relatives there, this is completely irrelevant.

The reasons why we dont want shitloads of uneducated people here should be obvious. Most european countries offer close to free education and a shitton of social benefits even for non nationals, thats taxpayers money you would receive, and why would we be willing to give all that money to someone who himself has never paid taxes here?

>>1242940
>>1242940
>and why would we be willing to give all that money to someone who himself has never paid taxes here?

I wonder the same thing when I saw that europe opened borders for millions of "refugees". That receive money from the goverment and other benefits. And people from othee countries who really want to do something useful have to face a lot of requirements to enter.

>>1242290
You wont get anywhere with that kind of English. At least not in a 1st world country.

>>1243093
Stop samefagging, I know you are a brazilian butthurted. Kek. You are pathetic.

>>1242321
Brazil is far better than either of those. Brazil is just the only one with the whole self-hating complex.

>>1243205
Live here for one year as a brazilian (which means, get a job here and live with the paycheck) and tell me if you will not start hating this country.

>>1243191
I'm Danish, though.

>>1243383
Fuck you them. I don't care about your opinion. If you don't have anything to add, even a intelligent critic, be quiet.

>>1243390
>then

>>1243390
Make me, Guilherme.

>>1242966
>hat receive money from the goverment and other benefits. And people from oth
You are completely right there. My experience with Brazilians is that they are willing to work hard to make a living. Something you cannot say of these muslim extremists infiltrating our continent at the moment.
My advice to OP is to try to get an exchange programme, au pair programme or something to legally stay and travel in and around a certain location and then evaluate your options.
Nao se preocupe sue Ingles ta otimo para comecar aqui na europa. O que voce precisa e vontade de sair e persistencia em seus planes. Boa sorte!

Just stay out of Europe you nigger and everything will be fine.

Where's the best place to live in Brazil? I liked Sao Paulo much more than Rio when I visited, but I didn't like that it was such a concrete jungle.

I'm looking for a place that has abundant easy women, a decent population of english or spanish speakers (or decent portugese classes available), and a relaxed vibe. Bonus points for somewhere that's surrounded by beautiful nature.

I'll have an income from the US (working remotely) so don't really care about job opportunities there.

>>1242868
>spanish
confirmed for brazillian larper

>>1242288
>>1242290
O que ta rolando amigo?
If you want to come to Australia and live with us Aussies, go to the Gold Coast near Brisbane... Great weather, good lifestyle, lots of Brazilians there already. Melbourne and Sydney are TOO EXPENSIVE.

>Sorry for my bad english.
tudo bem, meu portuguese e nao perfeito tambem!

> I wanna leave Brazil and study/work in another country
What's more important for you? Working or studying?
For an education you should definitely go to Europe and get one for free.

>>1242315
>Actually, although I'm not a big fan of the English language, I intend to learn at least English, Russian, French, and German. Kek.
If you want to learn French & German, then look at French & German universities and see if you can enroll there.
Don't like English? Bad luck. If you want to live in the West, stop complaining and learn it.

>Portugal looks good
I would go there first if I were you, because you speak the language already. Then look at where you can get an education in Europe.

>>1242316
If you want to just work and have a safer life with more money, I would suggest Miami like another guy did. Much more opportunity than Australia, and Miami is closer.

>>1242832
You're from the South? You shouldn't speak so badly about Brazil then, the South is AMAZING. I'm going to be in Floripa later this year for a while... :)

>>1242866
>The quality of life is way better in the united states.
Wrong. Standard of living is higher in the West, but quality of life much lower. Too many Brazilians think Australia/Canada etc are a perfect paradise, it's not true. Westerners work themselves to death, are usually unhealthy, stressed out, with bad diets and crap boring lifestyles.
Brazilians are much more free, healthy, happy in comparison. You guys celebrate life, we just work and buy things.
After one year in the West, yes you'll have more money/less crime, but you will probably miss Brazil and be depressed.
I'm just being honest with you.

>>1244690
>I liked Sao Paulo much more than Rio
Were you dropped on your head as a baby?

>I'm looking for a place that has abundant easy women, a decent population of english or spanish speakers (or decent portugese classes available), and a relaxed vibe. Bonus points for somewhere that's surrounded by beautiful nature.
Like Rio? KEK. South zone buddy, check it out. I could be wrong but you sound like a bit of a sex pest, South East Asia would suit you alot more going by your criteria. Your US dollars will take you further over there too.

>>1243205
Sadly this... Doesn't Chile have the best economy down there now?

Colombia is much cheaper and - even though I prefer Brasileiras - Colombiana babes are arguably the hottest in LATAM. The problem is they know that.

By September I will have been through Brazil, Argentina and Colombia. I might post on here about which country I found to be the best overall. Soon find out!

>>1245061
>You're from the South? You shouldn't speak so badly about Brazil then, the South is AMAZING. I'm going to be in Floripa later this year for a while... :)
sure it is amazing, if you're rich, a tourist or both

>but quality of life much lower
much lower in contrast to what? brazilian?! i don't think so

>Westerners work themselves to death, are usually unhealthy, stressed out, with bad diets and crap boring lifestyles.
we work ourselves to death, usually in poor conditions, are stressed as fuck (if you live on minimum wage here, man, best of luck trying to make it thrhough the month. making 900 bucks a month and paying from 500~1k on shit houses and having to buy food, clothing, pay electricity bills, phone, internet, buying furniture, etc. if that's not stressing enough i don't know what is). let's not forget security tho :)

>You guys celebrate life
that's because we can't wrok and buy things. so we work and celebrate life instead

>After one year in the West, yes you'll have more money/less crime, but you will probably miss Brazil and be depressed.
gues that's the price people pay for leaving their country, family and friends anyways. can't have it all

there's more things that i could talk about, but i'm felling kinda lazy right now
will answer questions if anyone is interested though
not OP btw, just another guy trying to vanish from Hueland

>>1244548
>Não se preocupe, seu inglês está ótimo para começar aqui na europa. O que você precisa é vontade de sair e persistência em seus planos. Boa sorte!

I correct to help you. And thank you for the support. Nice to see a foreign learning portuguese.

>>1245061
Thank you. Obrigado, amigo.

I agree with some things and others don't but that was helpful.

In the first moment my concern would be work and save money, but on the the second one I would like to study.

I hope Brazil gets better, I loved visiting, it's an amazing country.

>>1245789
Don't worry, if you have money $$$ (especially dollars) you always will be on the best places, a reality that 95% of the population doesn't know.

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>>1242288
Sorry to hear your country is a shithole now, OP. American here for shitty advice.

You're likely much better off going to Europe than the US right now. (Portugal especially, if you don't like English- although I cannot give good insight to the state of the economy.)

Anti-foreigner sentiment is probably at it's highest point in recent years, and it will be difficult to find a non-shit job with mediocre english- meaning your options for living are few.

Living in the US is expensive, even for Americans. Hope you're able to make it out safely.

>>1245069
>Colombiana babes are arguably the hottest in LATAM

They're getting dramatically harder as their economy is getting better, though. And as hot as they are, they don't compare to brazilian girls in how fun they are, especially in bed.

>>1245067
>>I liked Sao Paulo much more than Rio
>Were you dropped on your head as a baby?

I keep getting this reaction to that statement. There were a few reasons why. The biggest was that seemed much easier to find English speakers (more educated populace?), so I made some friends there that I still keep in touch with. And also in Rio I was a bit sick and the weather was awful (no one was on the beaches), so I didn't see it the same way others did.

I'm not a sex tourist, but I'm a single man. Of course I'd strongly prefer a place filled with easy gorgeous women compared with women that are not. Go live in a random part of the US, deal with the entitled fatties everywhere, and you'd understand.

As far as where else I could live - I've heard of Belo Horizonte, Curitiba, and Floripa as options.

>>1245895
>>1245895
>Anti-foreigner sentiment is probably at it's highest point in recent years

You don't mean anti-muslims sentiment? I not a kebab. And about my english (it's that bad?), I can learn it easily living on the country. US continues to seems pretty good. I thinked in Australia, New Zeland or Holland too. Even Russia, I am learning russian and I like the culture/russian women.

>living in the US is expensive

Belive me, is not. With the minimal wage you can buy a car, pay the rent, get dressed, eat, have a little rest/fun time. Here in Brazil we live just to pay taxes and bills. We can not build an patrimony, we exist just to work.

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>>1242891
>infraescture

>>1245895
>You're likely much better off going to Europe than the US right now.

I love this. Self-hating American gives advice to self-hating Brazilian. Neither of you have perspective on how your countries relate to others.

>>1245920
>Infrastructure

Fix'd.

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>>1245929
Did I ever say I hate my country? I certainly didn't- but sure, if you have a narrative to meet, go ahead and project, friend.

I suggested Portugal because they both speak fucking Portougese, you mong. Even basic level sales jobs will want OP to have a level of English he isn't at yet.

But sure, doom him to a life of minimum wage unskilled labor picking fruit.

>>1245918
"You have to go back" is a meme for a reason, OP.

In general, cost of living in the southern US is going to be cheaper for you than in the north or around cities, if you're still intent on trying. Reductions on labor visas means it may take a while to come legally if you aren't college educated or have some kind of in-demand skill.

>>1246235
>It may take a while to come legally if you aren't college educated or have some kind of in-demand skill.

I am not planing to be legal.